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not hollow because everything on the earth's crust might just cave in
is the earth hollow?
no.
no.
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Im just saying, maybe the Earth IS hollow, but some strange ball of gravity(?)
deep inside is holding us in orbit... you know, or if I jump to aliens, maybe THEY are keeping this earth stable for us? Maybe this Earth is 50% Human Territory
deep inside is holding us in orbit... you know, or if I jump to aliens, maybe THEY are keeping this earth stable for us? Maybe this Earth is 50% Human Territory
Sorry, none of those make sense....a ball of gravity? WTF!
Seismic waves are bent by solids and liquids...by measuring a seismic wave that originates on the other side of the earth, we can find out how many layers there are and what they are composed of...
This hollow earth 'blasphemy' never stood a chance against good ole science...
why does Mister E keep nercoposting?
if the centre of the earth is a molten core surrounded by solid rock then why is it that the solid rock hasn't melted? also how would the earth produce such a hugely powerful electromagnetic field if it was just filled with molten rock.
QUOTE(osiris99 @ Feb 6 2007, 10:36 PM) [snapback]1532289[/snapback]
if the centre of the earth is a molten core surrounded by solid rock then why is it that the solid rock hasn't melted? also how would the earth produce such a hugely powerful electromagnetic field if it was just filled with molten rock.
Physical state is determined by temperature aswell as pressure. The inner core hasn't melted because the pressure at the center of the Earth is extremely high, so it's being compressed and squashed in to a solid.
Increased Temperature: Solid->Liquid->Gas
Increased Pressure: Gas->Liquid->Solid
The magnetic field is believed to be the result of convection of molten iron and nickel in the Earth's outercore, referred to as the Dynamo effect.
QUOTE(frogfish @ May 7 2006, 12:22 PM) [snapback]1178063[/snapback]
The earth is not hollow...If it was, then 95% of the mass would be gone, the earth's orbit would be messed up, the moon would escape our gravity, all the laws of physics would not exist anymore...etc.
They don't
... Or do they? Debatable.TeraLink Was Here!
QUOTE(frogfish @ May 7 2006, 12:22 PM) [snapback]1178063[/snapback]
The earth is not hollow...If it was, then 95% of the mass would be gone, the earth's orbit would be messed up, the moon would escape our gravity, all the laws of physics would not exist anymore...etc.
They don't
... Or do they? Debatable.TeraLink Was Here!
QUOTE(osiris99 @ Feb 6 2007, 03:36 PM) [snapback]1532289[/snapback]
if the centre of the earth is a molten core surrounded by solid rock then why is it that the solid rock hasn't melted? also how would the earth produce such a hugely powerful electromagnetic field if it was just filled with molten rock.
In addition to what RX7 said, note that the molten core is not a growing heat source contained within the crust. It is cooling (albeit very slightly), so all the solid rock that was going to melt has already done so. Additionally, the layers beneath the crust are subject to more heat and pressure than the crust itself is. The crust layer begins where the rock is no longer subject to heat and pressure strong enough to melt it.
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if the centre of the earth is a molten core surrounded by solid rock then why is it that the solid rock hasn't melted
The inner core is actually solid
QUOTE(osiris99 @ Feb 6 2007, 10:36 PM) [snapback]1532289[/snapback]
if the centre of the earth is a molten core surrounded by solid rock then why is it that the solid rock hasn't melted? also how would the earth produce such a hugely powerful electromagnetic field if it was just filled with molten rock.
nobody knows what is at the centre of the earth and nobody knows what the core is comprised of. Some say it is solid some dont. Some say that the core is a ball of iron and nickel that is revolving within a liquid shell. Others say it is a solid core that is subducting silica from the mantle and crust and using it as a form of fuel.
Who knows?
That little picture of hollow earth with cities and what not in it reminds me of that game Final Fantasy 4, you know, the one where they go into the earth and theres another whole world.
QUOTE(TeraLink @ Feb 6 2007, 06:38 PM) [snapback]1532351[/snapback]
They don't ... Or do they? Debatable.
TeraLink Was Here!
... Or do they? Debatable.TeraLink Was Here!
What?
--Jaylemurph
lots of interesting info about the hollow earth theory
hollow earth
hollow earth
... still doesn't explain how a hollow Earth would contradict the laws of physics and geology.
--Jaylemurph
--Jaylemurph
The earth is not hollow i'm sure! It's more like a porous sponge with a liquid center.
~Moro
~Moro
Why is this thread still going on?
This is the 4th time I've posted this. Looks like I'll have to post it again.
From NewScientist.com:
This is the 4th time I've posted this. Looks like I'll have to post it again.
From NewScientist.com:
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If the Earth were hollow we would be in danger of death by suffocation, thirst, frying, starving, freezing and drowning, in that order.
A hollow Earth would not have enough mass to hold on to an atmosphere by gravity, and all the surface water would boil away. If the crust had enough mass to make up for the hollow centre, there would be no magnetic field, which is generated by the Earth's liquid iron interior. Compasses wouldn't work, and some migratory animal species might get lost, but that would be the least of our worries as deadly radiation from the sun and outer space could then penetrate to the Earth's surface.
If this could be solved, then presuming we could grow gills we could live underwater. We'd need to, because within a million years the continents would have eroded to little more than sandbanks, and the sea level would rise because of all the sediment that was dumped in the ocean by the rivers. It is only subduction and mountain building, created by the same convection currents in the interior that create the Earth's magnetic field, that keep uplifting the land to compensate for erosion.
Volcanic eruptions and subduction of tectonic plates also play an important role in regulating the carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere. Without these processes, plant growth could cease entirely because of all the carbon reaching the ocean floor through erosion, and the Earth would enter a period of deep freeze, deprived of the essential warming effect - and food supply - that carbon dioxide gives us now.
Hillary Shaw, School of Geography
University of Leeds, UK
A hollow Earth would not have enough mass to hold on to an atmosphere by gravity, and all the surface water would boil away. If the crust had enough mass to make up for the hollow centre, there would be no magnetic field, which is generated by the Earth's liquid iron interior. Compasses wouldn't work, and some migratory animal species might get lost, but that would be the least of our worries as deadly radiation from the sun and outer space could then penetrate to the Earth's surface.
If this could be solved, then presuming we could grow gills we could live underwater. We'd need to, because within a million years the continents would have eroded to little more than sandbanks, and the sea level would rise because of all the sediment that was dumped in the ocean by the rivers. It is only subduction and mountain building, created by the same convection currents in the interior that create the Earth's magnetic field, that keep uplifting the land to compensate for erosion.
Volcanic eruptions and subduction of tectonic plates also play an important role in regulating the carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere. Without these processes, plant growth could cease entirely because of all the carbon reaching the ocean floor through erosion, and the Earth would enter a period of deep freeze, deprived of the essential warming effect - and food supply - that carbon dioxide gives us now.
Hillary Shaw, School of Geography
University of Leeds, UK
http://science.netscape.com/story/2007/03/...-hole-in-earth/
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/...70301103112.htm
Earth's Crust Missing In Mid-Atlantic
Science Daily — Cardiff University scientists will shortly set sail (March 5) to investigate a startling discovery in the depths of the Atlantic.
A drill will be used to extract samples of the exposed mantle. (Credit: Image courtesy of Cardiff University)
Scientists have discovered a large area thousands of square kilometres in extent in the middle of the Atlantic where the Earth’s crust appears to be missing. Instead, the mantle - the deep interior of the Earth, normally covered by crust many kilometres thick - is exposed on the seafloor, 3000m below the surface.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070305/sc_nm/...expedition_dc_1
The 20-strong team aims to survey an area some 3,000 to 4,000 metres deep where the mantle -- the deep interior of the earth normally covered by a crust kilometres thick -- is exposed on the sea floor.
Experts describe the hole along the mid-Atlantic ridge as an "open wound" on the ocean floor that has puzzled scientists for the five or so years that its existence has been known because it defies existing tectonic plate theories of evolution.
"We know so little about it," said Bramley Murton, a senior research scientist at Southampton's National Oceanography Center.
"It's a real challenge to our established understanding of what the earth's surface looks like underneath the waves," he told Reuters by telephone from the brand new, hi-tech British research ship RRS James Cook.
Mid ocean ridges are places where new oceanic crust is born, with red-hot lava spewing out along the seafloor.
What scientists are keen to know is whether the crust was ripped away by huge geological faults, or whether it never even developed in the first place.
The primary motivation for the project was to understand how the earth continues to evolve.
"The area that we are looking at is part of a mountain range that spans thousands of square kilometres, but we are beginning to realize that there are probably millions of square kilometres where the ocean floor is missing," Murton said.
The six week mission, led by geophysicist Roger Searle of Durham University and Chris MacLeod of Cardiff University's School of Earth, Ocean and Planetary Sciences, will recover sample cores of rock by drilling into the mantle using a rig lowered on to the sea floor.
Asked if the discovery posed a threat to the environment, Murton replied: "It's not problematic for the earth because it is a natural earth process -- but in terms of knowing how the earth works and how the world is put together it is important."
Murton also said the expedition would shed light on the composition of sea water amongst other initiatives.
Crust formation is a fundamental mechanism of the earth which affects the chemistry of the world's oceans.
Progress by the research team can be monitored via a live web link to the ship at: http://www.noc.soton.ac.uk/gg/classroom@sea/JC007/.
The Royal Research Ship James Cook sits alongside the National Oceanography Centre in Southampton in an undated file photo. A team of British scientists has set sail on a voyage to examine why a huge chunk of the earth's crust is missing, deep under the Atlantic Ocean -- a phenomenon that challenges conventional ideas about how the earth works.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/...70301103112.htm
Earth's Crust Missing In Mid-Atlantic
Science Daily — Cardiff University scientists will shortly set sail (March 5) to investigate a startling discovery in the depths of the Atlantic.
A drill will be used to extract samples of the exposed mantle. (Credit: Image courtesy of Cardiff University)
Scientists have discovered a large area thousands of square kilometres in extent in the middle of the Atlantic where the Earth’s crust appears to be missing. Instead, the mantle - the deep interior of the Earth, normally covered by crust many kilometres thick - is exposed on the seafloor, 3000m below the surface.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070305/sc_nm/...expedition_dc_1
The 20-strong team aims to survey an area some 3,000 to 4,000 metres deep where the mantle -- the deep interior of the earth normally covered by a crust kilometres thick -- is exposed on the sea floor.
Experts describe the hole along the mid-Atlantic ridge as an "open wound" on the ocean floor that has puzzled scientists for the five or so years that its existence has been known because it defies existing tectonic plate theories of evolution.
"We know so little about it," said Bramley Murton, a senior research scientist at Southampton's National Oceanography Center.
"It's a real challenge to our established understanding of what the earth's surface looks like underneath the waves," he told Reuters by telephone from the brand new, hi-tech British research ship RRS James Cook.
Mid ocean ridges are places where new oceanic crust is born, with red-hot lava spewing out along the seafloor.
What scientists are keen to know is whether the crust was ripped away by huge geological faults, or whether it never even developed in the first place.
The primary motivation for the project was to understand how the earth continues to evolve.
"The area that we are looking at is part of a mountain range that spans thousands of square kilometres, but we are beginning to realize that there are probably millions of square kilometres where the ocean floor is missing," Murton said.
The six week mission, led by geophysicist Roger Searle of Durham University and Chris MacLeod of Cardiff University's School of Earth, Ocean and Planetary Sciences, will recover sample cores of rock by drilling into the mantle using a rig lowered on to the sea floor.
Asked if the discovery posed a threat to the environment, Murton replied: "It's not problematic for the earth because it is a natural earth process -- but in terms of knowing how the earth works and how the world is put together it is important."
Murton also said the expedition would shed light on the composition of sea water amongst other initiatives.
Crust formation is a fundamental mechanism of the earth which affects the chemistry of the world's oceans.
Progress by the research team can be monitored via a live web link to the ship at: http://www.noc.soton.ac.uk/gg/classroom@sea/JC007/.
The Royal Research Ship James Cook sits alongside the National Oceanography Centre in Southampton in an undated file photo. A team of British scientists has set sail on a voyage to examine why a huge chunk of the earth's crust is missing, deep under the Atlantic Ocean -- a phenomenon that challenges conventional ideas about how the earth works.
...The link between this story and a Hollow World may be obvious to you, but maybe you could fill in the blanks for he rest of us?
I mean, it's not like there's a gianormous /hole/ there. It's just a thin spot on the Earth's crust, like when you zest a lemon.
--Jaylemurph
I mean, it's not like there's a gianormous /hole/ there. It's just a thin spot on the Earth's crust, like when you zest a lemon.
--Jaylemurph
Can't wait for the movie
Pardon my ignorance, but wouldn't the combined weight of everything on the earth collapse the planet if it was hollow? 
Ain't hollow. Just has a lot of caves.
Maybe not actually hollow...but possible to go into in a non-physical body.
There may be 'white dwarf' matter in the centre of the earth....got this off the internet ages ago, sorry can't remember where.
White dwarf matter may have different time/space rules. May be linked to other 'white dwarf' matter in the universe..i.e. Sirius B.
Perhaps that's where the Egyptian underworld is/was.
Perhaps thats where we head for when we die...as the first step of the 'journey'.
Can't produce any evidence for any of this....just throwing out another possibility.....
QUOTE(bee @ Mar 8 2007, 04:00 PM) [snapback]1573786[/snapback]
Maybe not actually hollow...but possible to go into in a non-physical body.
There may be 'white dwarf' matter in the centre of the earth....got this off the internet ages ago, sorry can't remember where.
White dwarf matter may have different time/space rules. May be linked to other 'white dwarf' matter in the universe..i.e. Sirius B.
Perhaps that's where the Egyptian underworld is/was.
Perhaps thats where we head for when we die...as the first step of the 'journey'.
Can't produce any evidence for any of this....just throwing out another possibility.....
There may be 'white dwarf' matter in the centre of the earth....got this off the internet ages ago, sorry can't remember where.
White dwarf matter may have different time/space rules. May be linked to other 'white dwarf' matter in the universe..i.e. Sirius B.
Perhaps that's where the Egyptian underworld is/was.
Perhaps thats where we head for when we die...as the first step of the 'journey'.
Can't produce any evidence for any of this....just throwing out another possibility.....
Pardon the pun... but how on Earth would "white dwarf matter" get into the centre of a planet? And if it did, wouldn't its increased density attract /more/ matter to ensure a solid Earth?
--Jaylemurph
well...i cant say the part about earth being hollow is wrong because noones ever gone to the earths core
but if aliens were in the planets core then they wouldnt be aliens, theyd be earthian too.
but if aliens were in the planets core then they wouldnt be aliens, theyd be earthian too.
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well...i cant say the part about earth being hollow is wrong because noones ever gone to the earths core
But there wouldn't BE a core if the earth was hollow, Mothman. There would just be vast....emptiness.
QUOTE(manitou @ May 7 2006, 07:05 AM) [snapback]1177952[/snapback]
Now I don't jump to conclusions to often, but this is plain nonsense. It sounds interesting but the very second instance I have this thought it becomes ridiculous. I also heard about nazi's being familiar with the hollow earth and UFO's originating from it, but I think it's a got out of hand prank or hallucinogen induced thought. Like a cult or Urban Legend. Think this fits in there, yes.
The Nazi's were also searching for the Spear of Destiny and Atlantis (If I'm not mistaken they believed that was in the centre of the earth) so... can't put too much foundation on what they believed, eh?
-Madcap
I believe that there is a vast network of caves under the ground.
but completely hollow...meh.
but completely hollow...meh.
OK, a bit of perspective is needed here.
The biggest cave ever discovered is 140m high, not even big enough to house Notre Dame cathedral (which is about 150m high).
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...in_page_id=1770
The earth's crust is up to 70km deep. A few kilometres ain't going to make much difference. The word "hole" is completely out of context.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_crust
You've said this before actually, exact words. With just as little science to back it up.
At the end of the day, it is impossoble for the earth to be hollow. And its not like its guess work, its physics and maths. We KNOW, it can't be.
End. Of. Story.
QUOTE(RabidCat @ Mar 8 2007, 09:18 PM) [snapback]1573726[/snapback]
Ain't hollow. Just has a lot of caves.
The biggest cave ever discovered is 140m high, not even big enough to house Notre Dame cathedral (which is about 150m high).
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...in_page_id=1770
QUOTE(crystal sage @ Mar 8 2007, 11:52 AM) [snapback]1573088[/snapback]
The 20-strong team aims to survey an area some 3,000 to 4,000 metres deep where the mantle -- the deep interior of the earth normally covered by a crust kilometres thick -- is exposed on the sea floor.
The earth's crust is up to 70km deep. A few kilometres ain't going to make much difference. The word "hole" is completely out of context.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_crust
QUOTE(bee @ Mar 8 2007, 10:00 PM) [snapback]1573786[/snapback]
There may be 'white dwarf' matter in the centre of the earth....got this off the internet ages ago, sorry can't remember where.
You've said this before actually, exact words. With just as little science to back it up.
At the end of the day, it is impossoble for the earth to be hollow. And its not like its guess work, its physics and maths. We KNOW, it can't be.
End. Of. Story.
I think it very unlikely that the hollow earth theory is correct. Many of the reasons I think this to be the case have already been mentioned. Mass, gravity, magnetic fields, the planet's orbit, the moons orbit, ect. If this were the case the book would have to be re-writen on the topic of volcanos wouldn't it? All that magma has got to come from somewhere. Massive cave systems do exist. In fact, even some of the best known haven't been fully explored due to their size. I don't think living on a hollow planet would be much fun, just think of what the reduced mass might do to the rotational speed of the planet. Nice huh?
Good Journey.
Kyle Rajasthan.
Good Journey.
Kyle Rajasthan.
Ok, just first of all, I love to play around with the idea of hollow earth but in a slightly different way. As for all of the people who are saying that the earth cannot be hollow, it can, you base your opinions on plate tectonics, but have you actually notice that plate tectonics itself is a theory? Because it is, and so a hollow earth can just be as worthy. For all those who think that for some reason a hollow earth would collapse, have you ever tried to crush a ball, putting equal force on every point at the same time? It's impossible, but then again, the earth is not a perfect sphere is it? And this may be the reason for Mountains, ridges and other.
Now I get to the interesting part. My theory does not actually have to do with the earth being hollow or not, it's actually based on hollow earth legends. I wrote a long article on this but it ended up getting erased after I pressed backspace when not selecting the posting form, and so this is a summary of thoughts, that I will post links on for you to research for yourself in order to understand.
My theory is that for some strange reason, hollow earth has many legends and myths, from different countries that supposedly have entrances. The main legend seems to be of a country or possibly just a giant city that is called Agartha, from an Indo-Chinese legend. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agartha#Entrances This is a list of entrances except for one, which has not be found called Shambhala, but I'll talk about that later.
So now let's talk about the different people said to be living underground in earth. The most common stories are as followed, you'll have to research them yourself as I do not have the energy to reprint what I have written:
- A serpent-humanoid creature called Nagas (Indian legend) *said to have an entrance under a deep well in India through a door that is guarded by snakes (the door is a true fact) it may mention in the wikipedia link, otherwise try to find it on the web. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naga_%28mythology%29
- Aryans (Indo-European origin) are said to live underground, the are what the Nazi occultism is based, and are also technologically advanced. Associated sometimes with Atlantis, Thule, and Shambhala.
- Men who wear black robes and go terrorizing and threatening townsfolk, derived from the King of the World myth *if anyone finds this myth, please e-mail it to me. They are said to also house underground. (indo-chinese origin)
I believe there are more legends, but I'm going to theorize with these three to prove a point. Now supposing that most of you a familiar with UFO culture, there have been many reports of moderate UFO activity over these areas that are said to be openings and people claim to have seen flying saucers and other UFOs go in and out of them.
Another interesting fact is that if we were to switch our views, there is a place for these three underground-dwelling, people.
Aryans = Nordics/Swedes/Blonds
Nagas = Reptoids, possibly also Greys
Men in Black = Men in Black
Okay, now it's time to deal with the men in black. Based on what I've studied, it seems that men in black usually come in packs of threes and carry emblems of either unknown images or the all-seeing eye of the American bill or the Eye of Horus. Isn't it just coincidence that the Great Pyramids are said to be an opening into hollow earth?
Now it seems that not only have these aliens/underground civs been dwelling about under our noses, but they have come in the way of history (note some of these are theories):
- The fact that three men in dark clothes from the east came to give gifts to the baby Jesus and suddenly disappear afterwards
- The fact that the bible mentions of how fallen angels, typically represented to have blond hair and blue eyes (sound familliar) are usually marrying human brides in Genesis.
- The fact that Egypt had the technology that it was using at their time, possibly and extra-terrestrial (or ultra-terrestrial) had intervened with this great civilization.
- The fact that Constantine the I had all of a sudden legalized the Catholic Church
- The fact that Egypt fell to plagues from the Abrahamic God.
- The fact that the Nazis, Egyptians, and Romans were all conquered consequently following the slavery of Jewish peoples.
Now it seems that for some reason all of these great (meaning powerful) nations that I've mentioned have something in common is that each one has a connection on of the underground civilizations that I've mentioned. Now isn't it funny that all of a sudden they are conquered after enslaving the Jews? Which may introduce another underground race protecting the Jews from the other underground races.
Now let me take Shambhala. Shambhala was only visited by two people in history, who never actually entered it. The first was by Yakov Blumkin who recalls finding underground passages of the Himalayan foothills, where Shambhala is supposedly located, and finding a door which he says, has not been openned because the time for it to open has not yet come. The second was by the founder of the Great White Brotherhood (a society based on the Great White Lodge found in Shambhala) who says that time and space bends around Shambhala. So now where the hell is Shambhala? Budhist monks believe that Shambhala is not actually on earth but the entrance is, the actual place lies in the galaxy of Orion.
Orion eh? Isn't that strange that many people who claim to have extra-terrestrial encounters also claim that these beings are from Orion? So now here comes my theory, and I'm sorry I'm not giving a lot of evidence, I plan to write a book eventually on this.
In my opinion, I believe these entrances are not actually holes to the inside of the earth, but rather they are wormholes (bear with me). Wormholes that bend space in order to transport the observer to another galaxy, say Orion? Using this theory could do a lot of things. It could explain, if all of this is actually true, that religions are not based on god(s) but rather these beings who are misinterpreted as god(s). Why else would there be so many? And as for the Abrahamic God, why would he be so human-like in the way that in the bible he makes mistakes, why, if he had contacted us, want us to exist? It seems he makes too many mistakes and carries too many human characteristics to be a god, why else would he go against his own laws? Ask me some questions on this theory because I haven't been able to explain it very accurately and I am lacking my original sources.
Now I get to the interesting part. My theory does not actually have to do with the earth being hollow or not, it's actually based on hollow earth legends. I wrote a long article on this but it ended up getting erased after I pressed backspace when not selecting the posting form, and so this is a summary of thoughts, that I will post links on for you to research for yourself in order to understand.
My theory is that for some strange reason, hollow earth has many legends and myths, from different countries that supposedly have entrances. The main legend seems to be of a country or possibly just a giant city that is called Agartha, from an Indo-Chinese legend. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agartha#Entrances This is a list of entrances except for one, which has not be found called Shambhala, but I'll talk about that later.
So now let's talk about the different people said to be living underground in earth. The most common stories are as followed, you'll have to research them yourself as I do not have the energy to reprint what I have written:
- A serpent-humanoid creature called Nagas (Indian legend) *said to have an entrance under a deep well in India through a door that is guarded by snakes (the door is a true fact) it may mention in the wikipedia link, otherwise try to find it on the web. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naga_%28mythology%29
- Aryans (Indo-European origin) are said to live underground, the are what the Nazi occultism is based, and are also technologically advanced. Associated sometimes with Atlantis, Thule, and Shambhala.
- Men who wear black robes and go terrorizing and threatening townsfolk, derived from the King of the World myth *if anyone finds this myth, please e-mail it to me. They are said to also house underground. (indo-chinese origin)
I believe there are more legends, but I'm going to theorize with these three to prove a point. Now supposing that most of you a familiar with UFO culture, there have been many reports of moderate UFO activity over these areas that are said to be openings and people claim to have seen flying saucers and other UFOs go in and out of them.
Another interesting fact is that if we were to switch our views, there is a place for these three underground-dwelling, people.
Aryans = Nordics/Swedes/Blonds
Nagas = Reptoids, possibly also Greys
Men in Black = Men in Black
Okay, now it's time to deal with the men in black. Based on what I've studied, it seems that men in black usually come in packs of threes and carry emblems of either unknown images or the all-seeing eye of the American bill or the Eye of Horus. Isn't it just coincidence that the Great Pyramids are said to be an opening into hollow earth?
Now it seems that not only have these aliens/underground civs been dwelling about under our noses, but they have come in the way of history (note some of these are theories):
- The fact that three men in dark clothes from the east came to give gifts to the baby Jesus and suddenly disappear afterwards
- The fact that the bible mentions of how fallen angels, typically represented to have blond hair and blue eyes (sound familliar) are usually marrying human brides in Genesis.
- The fact that Egypt had the technology that it was using at their time, possibly and extra-terrestrial (or ultra-terrestrial) had intervened with this great civilization.
- The fact that Constantine the I had all of a sudden legalized the Catholic Church
- The fact that Egypt fell to plagues from the Abrahamic God.
- The fact that the Nazis, Egyptians, and Romans were all conquered consequently following the slavery of Jewish peoples.
Now it seems that for some reason all of these great (meaning powerful) nations that I've mentioned have something in common is that each one has a connection on of the underground civilizations that I've mentioned. Now isn't it funny that all of a sudden they are conquered after enslaving the Jews? Which may introduce another underground race protecting the Jews from the other underground races.
Now let me take Shambhala. Shambhala was only visited by two people in history, who never actually entered it. The first was by Yakov Blumkin who recalls finding underground passages of the Himalayan foothills, where Shambhala is supposedly located, and finding a door which he says, has not been openned because the time for it to open has not yet come. The second was by the founder of the Great White Brotherhood (a society based on the Great White Lodge found in Shambhala) who says that time and space bends around Shambhala. So now where the hell is Shambhala? Budhist monks believe that Shambhala is not actually on earth but the entrance is, the actual place lies in the galaxy of Orion.
Orion eh? Isn't that strange that many people who claim to have extra-terrestrial encounters also claim that these beings are from Orion? So now here comes my theory, and I'm sorry I'm not giving a lot of evidence, I plan to write a book eventually on this.
In my opinion, I believe these entrances are not actually holes to the inside of the earth, but rather they are wormholes (bear with me). Wormholes that bend space in order to transport the observer to another galaxy, say Orion? Using this theory could do a lot of things. It could explain, if all of this is actually true, that religions are not based on god(s) but rather these beings who are misinterpreted as god(s). Why else would there be so many? And as for the Abrahamic God, why would he be so human-like in the way that in the bible he makes mistakes, why, if he had contacted us, want us to exist? It seems he makes too many mistakes and carries too many human characteristics to be a god, why else would he go against his own laws? Ask me some questions on this theory because I haven't been able to explain it very accurately and I am lacking my original sources.
Hello,
My first time to this board. Is the Earth Hollow? I was looking at the ocean floor with Google Earth and found some interesting things. There are a lot of very long and straight lines that criss cross in a way that reminds me of Nazca.
I also was looking around Anartica and found either flaws in the sat. photo, or the way the 'globe' photo are put together.
The 'strips' of photos all converge at the top and bottom of the globe and once in a while I can find these vertical seams in the strips of photos, so I know that. But what I also found are bands on the ocean floor that circle the globe and are only visable at least 100 mile scale. In relation to other objects on the ocean floor these bands aren't very tall or wide, but like a seam or a ridge. In places, the 'ridge' is nothing or gone, and in some other places it is long and easy to follow either to the east or west. I placed the handy 'push-pin' at my monitor screen width and kept going untill I came back to the beginning. I zoomed out and the pins made a nice straight line around the globe. By the way, at 0 degrees North and South, the equator of the globe, there is a 'ridge' and at every 18 degrees going north and south.
Just for fun, I looked and a bunch of the 'lines' and traced them, and dang if they don't lead from island to island. hmm.
I followed one towards USA and it pointed toward Washington DC. I found strange mounds off the shelf in the Atlantic east and to the south of DC in the Atlantic. The 'plates' on the ocean floor are 'cracking' in a very orderly crack, like an old LATH plaser wall, stair-stepping pattern. Follow them up from the Antartica's Pacific Ocean side, up to South America. Dang if those 'plates' look like the seams of some kind of 'plated-globe'. It helps to look at the ocean floor and ajust your monitor accordingly to bring out the shadows. Google Earth is fun! for now. eddie_on_drums
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My first time to this board. Is the Earth Hollow? I was looking at the ocean floor with Google Earth and found some interesting things. There are a lot of very long and straight lines that criss cross in a way that reminds me of Nazca.
I also was looking around Anartica and found either flaws in the sat. photo, or the way the 'globe' photo are put together.
The 'strips' of photos all converge at the top and bottom of the globe and once in a while I can find these vertical seams in the strips of photos, so I know that. But what I also found are bands on the ocean floor that circle the globe and are only visable at least 100 mile scale. In relation to other objects on the ocean floor these bands aren't very tall or wide, but like a seam or a ridge. In places, the 'ridge' is nothing or gone, and in some other places it is long and easy to follow either to the east or west. I placed the handy 'push-pin' at my monitor screen width and kept going untill I came back to the beginning. I zoomed out and the pins made a nice straight line around the globe. By the way, at 0 degrees North and South, the equator of the globe, there is a 'ridge' and at every 18 degrees going north and south.
Just for fun, I looked and a bunch of the 'lines' and traced them, and dang if they don't lead from island to island. hmm.
I followed one towards USA and it pointed toward Washington DC. I found strange mounds off the shelf in the Atlantic east and to the south of DC in the Atlantic. The 'plates' on the ocean floor are 'cracking' in a very orderly crack, like an old LATH plaser wall, stair-stepping pattern. Follow them up from the Antartica's Pacific Ocean side, up to South America. Dang if those 'plates' look like the seams of some kind of 'plated-globe'. It helps to look at the ocean floor and ajust your monitor accordingly to bring out the shadows. Google Earth is fun! for now. eddie_on_drums
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... Being a 'Stargate' fan... I like the worm hole idea!!! .. and I do believe crop circles are somehow involved....
and the ancient worship..and knowledge of various star systems.. eg by Dogons... can be the clues... calling cards of 'visitors'
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/solars...n_earthday.html
and the ancient worship..and knowledge of various star systems.. eg by Dogons... can be the clues... calling cards of 'visitors'
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/solars...n_earthday.html
QUOTE(crystal sage @ Apr 10 2007, 10:01 PM) [snapback]1623009[/snapback]
... Being a 'Stargate' fan... I like the worm hole idea!!! .. and I do believe crop circles are somehow involved....
and the ancient worship..and knowledge of various star systems.. eg by Dogons... can be the clues... calling cards of 'visitors'
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/solars...n_earthday.html
and the ancient worship..and knowledge of various star systems.. eg by Dogons... can be the clues... calling cards of 'visitors'
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/solars...n_earthday.html
Well it's nice that you agree but, you honestly have no questions on what I have written. Because what I have doesn't give a lot of evidence as it is the extremely condensed version of my theory, but don't you have any questions? You seem to be easily accepting without proof, no offense.
QUOTE(crystal sage @ Apr 10 2007, 07:01 PM) [snapback]1623009[/snapback]
... Being a 'Stargate' fan... I like the worm hole idea!!! .. and I do believe crop circles are somehow involved....
and the ancient worship..and knowledge of various star systems.. eg by Dogons... can be the clues... calling cards of 'visitors'
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/solars...n_earthday.html
and the ancient worship..and knowledge of various star systems.. eg by Dogons... can be the clues... calling cards of 'visitors'
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/solars...n_earthday.html
Crop Circles have pretty much been cleared as being created by ET's.
All one need do is use a little analytical thinking skills and the power of observation and deductive reasoning:
(Now if this is a matter of "Personal Religious Belief - please accept my apology - in that it was not stated as such.)
A - All recent (past 25 years +/-) can be found as artwork on the internet created by MAN via Computer Generated Art.
.... Why would this be?
.... What does this tell us?
B - What does this website tell us?
Crop Circles Designers
C - With the above two - where does that leave the 'alien equation'.
Prior to the "High Tech" Crop Circles - they were rough and could easily have been made by man w/no problem.
The "Hollow Earth" - is simply OTL - there is to much scientific evidence of the Earth's Core - Mantel to raise serious doubt about the Hollow Earth.
Hewa, no offense, but I go along with your theory and what you've researched. I've done some research too (not much, just read a few books and looked around on the internet) on what you've found about Shambalah, reptilians, etc. and I also think there is something odd that has happened in the past that may have influenced the leaders or the groups of people of that time. Kind of like how each major ancient civilization sprang up suddenly around the same time (correct me if I'm wrong)? Some people believe that UFO's are from here, only they're humans or humanoids, and live underground (whether thats a hollow earth theory or a giant cave system), and come out often to do whatever. I think its all interesting and intriguing. Is there any chance you can post or email me more of your theory(ies)? Haven't heard a theory on worm holes though. How would it be possible for each entrance to lead to the same place (if they're worm holes)?
My. This thread has plummeted into the lowest depths of pointlessness. I'm not even dignifiying the frankly terrible attempts at pseudo science presented above with an answer. It should be locked.
QUOTE(Emma_Acid_88 @ Apr 11 2007, 09:19 PM) [snapback]1623465[/snapback]
My. This thread has plummeted into the lowest depths of pointlessness. I'm not even dignifiying the frankly terrible attempts at pseudo science presented above with an answer. It should be locked.
I completley second this motion.
QUOTE(El Barto @ Apr 11 2007, 12:30 AM) [snapback]1623175[/snapback]
Hewa, no offense, but I go along with your theory and what you've researched. I've done some research too (not much, just read a few books and looked around on the internet) on what you've found about Shambalah, reptilians, etc. and I also think there is something odd that has happened in the past that may have influenced the leaders or the groups of people of that time. Kind of like how each major ancient civilization sprang up suddenly around the same time (correct me if I'm wrong)? Some people believe that UFO's are from here, only they're humans or humanoids, and live underground (whether thats a hollow earth theory or a giant cave system), and come out often to do whatever. I think its all interesting and intriguing. Is there any chance you can post or email me more of your theory(ies)? Haven't heard a theory on worm holes though. How would it be possible for each entrance to lead to the same place (if they're worm holes)?
I'd like to point out to everyone that what I have said is only a theory, this means it can be proven wrong or right with the beneficial amount of evidence, but if no one has any evidence towards or against it, then it remains still a theory. Everything I have written, I have conducted through relating different concepts of paranormal studies and religious studies. And so, as being only a theory, there is no need to trash it. In the words of Pontius Pilate: what I have written, I have written.
As for El Barto, my theory revolves around UFO culture and so that is why I would assume the wormholes would lead to Orion, based on it's popularity in UFO cases. It could possibly be that they lead to different places and are the gateways to paranormal worlds, perhaps dimensions. Maybe one goes to what religions would call hell, maybe one goes to heaven, maybe one goes another planet that is not part of any stories, yet. But if they all did lead to the same place, then that would draw to the conclusion that they are man-made(if these paranormal things are advanced humans) or the product of another entity, but that they are artificial if they would all lead to the same place. The way that the wormhole would have to be created would need the power of a massive force and it would work out something like general relativity.
Here are two fundamental principles that would go into the mix:
1. Spacetime is curved: This permits gravitational effects such as free-fall to be described as a form of inertial motion. (See the discussion below of a person standing on Earth, under "Coordinate vs. physical acceleration.")
2. Spacetime curvature is created by stress-energy within the spacetime: This is described in general relativity by the Einstein field equations.
If one could artificially create this stress-energy then one would be able to bend space-time anyway they want it.
At this point, yet again, unless you give evidence, for or against, then you have no right to trash. And I would advise against simply believing, rather than proving.
Hewa
Your "theory" is a messy half-baked hotch potch of global legends. If I had enough time, I could do exactly the same and probably come up with my own theory about how Jesus was a potato monster from the planet Nngggg.
So, no you're right, it cant be proven or disproven. This is where common sense has to kick in.
Just because there are two different theories, it doesn't mean they have equal credibity. For the reasons I have posted above, it is fundamentally impossible for the earth to be hollow. And the theory of plate tectonics is pretty fautless (no pun intended). The plates have been measured by satellite and other means.
And as for the silly earth/ball comment, a ball is constructed hollow, its shape giving it its strength, like the curve of a bridge. The earth would of have to have been made hollow from the beginning, something that makes NO sense whatsoever. Where does the earth's mass and magnetism come from?
If you're serious about your theory, go back to my post which states, fact-wise, why the earth cannot be hollow. Prove me wrong on any of these points and we'll discuss further, otherwise I'm through with this silly thread.
Your "theory" is a messy half-baked hotch potch of global legends. If I had enough time, I could do exactly the same and probably come up with my own theory about how Jesus was a potato monster from the planet Nngggg.
So, no you're right, it cant be proven or disproven. This is where common sense has to kick in.
QUOTE(hewa @ Apr 11 2007, 02:30 AM) [snapback]1622981[/snapback]
For all of the people who are saying that the earth cannot be hollow, it can, you base your opinions on plate tectonics, but have you actually notice that plate tectonics itself is a theory? Because it is, and so a hollow earth can just be as worthy. For all those who think that for some reason a hollow earth would collapse, have you ever tried to crush a ball, putting equal force on every point at the same time? It's impossible, but then again, the earth is not a perfect sphere is it?
Just because there are two different theories, it doesn't mean they have equal credibity. For the reasons I have posted above, it is fundamentally impossible for the earth to be hollow. And the theory of plate tectonics is pretty fautless (no pun intended). The plates have been measured by satellite and other means.
And as for the silly earth/ball comment, a ball is constructed hollow, its shape giving it its strength, like the curve of a bridge. The earth would of have to have been made hollow from the beginning, something that makes NO sense whatsoever. Where does the earth's mass and magnetism come from?
If you're serious about your theory, go back to my post which states, fact-wise, why the earth cannot be hollow. Prove me wrong on any of these points and we'll discuss further, otherwise I'm through with this silly thread.
maybe we really live inside the center of the earth and we don't know it
just thought i'd add that i'm kidding
just thought i'd add that i'm kidding
A very detailed (and fictional, mind you) account of the "Hollow Earth" theory is Jules Verne's A Journey to the Center of the Earth.
The adventurer sees dinosaurs, aliens, and many other things. But, though fictional, one must wonder why Verne thought of it.
Maybe he knew something?
The adventurer sees dinosaurs, aliens, and many other things. But, though fictional, one must wonder why Verne thought of it.
Maybe he knew something?
QUOTE(Emma_Acid_88 @ Apr 11 2007, 10:20 AM) [snapback]1623633[/snapback]
Hewa
Your "theory" is a messy half-baked hotch potch of global legends. If I had enough time, I could do exactly the same and probably come up with my own theory about how Jesus was a potato monster from the planet Nngggg.
So, no you're right, it cant be proven or disproven. This is where common sense has to kick in.
Just because there are two different theories, it doesn't mean they have equal credibity. For the reasons I have posted above, it is fundamentally impossible for the earth to be hollow. And the theory of plate tectonics is pretty fautless (no pun intended). The plates have been measured by satellite and other means.
And as for the silly earth/ball comment, a ball is constructed hollow, its shape giving it its strength, like the curve of a bridge. The earth would of have to have been made hollow from the beginning, something that makes NO sense whatsoever. Where does the earth's mass and magnetism come from?
If you're serious about your theory, go back to my post which states, fact-wise, why the earth cannot be hollow. Prove me wrong on any of these points and we'll discuss further, otherwise I'm through with this silly thread.
Your "theory" is a messy half-baked hotch potch of global legends. If I had enough time, I could do exactly the same and probably come up with my own theory about how Jesus was a potato monster from the planet Nngggg.
So, no you're right, it cant be proven or disproven. This is where common sense has to kick in.
Just because there are two different theories, it doesn't mean they have equal credibity. For the reasons I have posted above, it is fundamentally impossible for the earth to be hollow. And the theory of plate tectonics is pretty fautless (no pun intended). The plates have been measured by satellite and other means.
And as for the silly earth/ball comment, a ball is constructed hollow, its shape giving it its strength, like the curve of a bridge. The earth would of have to have been made hollow from the beginning, something that makes NO sense whatsoever. Where does the earth's mass and magnetism come from?
If you're serious about your theory, go back to my post which states, fact-wise, why the earth cannot be hollow. Prove me wrong on any of these points and we'll discuss further, otherwise I'm through with this silly thread.
For the earth/ball comment, as you call it, the earth would still have a core, giving it the gravitational force, the magnetism and the and possibly, if the earth is being pulled at an extreme weight, then it is possible to compensate for its mass.
Like I said before, continental plates are only known through their divisions, and so these divisions always seem to be made with a bottom, except for those which lead into the mantle.
Here comes another theory, so get ready. Perhaps, the actual mantle that we believe in today, it not actually a layer of the earth but just magma derived to fill in gaps when the pressure of the earth's core pulls on an unbalanced portion of the earth. This could create a vacuum effect, sucking the magma from the earth's core to use as a sort of a cement-like tool. In this way, I am saying that the mantle may possibly not be a layer going around the entire earth, but rather, concentrations of magma sucked out from the core of the earth and only located where there are gaps in the earth's surface. This reaction when there is a gap in the earth's surface creating a vacuum effect can be explained, possibly it is happening everyday, but we have labelled the effects as volcanic eruptions and earthquakes.
Another thing is that my wormhole theory on the more alternative history of the world can be does not necessarily need the earth to be hollow in the first place.
I'd be happy to discuss any other thoughts or evidence you have on the matter, please, keep it coming.
QUOTE(Ciraxis @ Apr 11 2007, 10:46 AM) [snapback]1623668[/snapback]
maybe we really live inside the center of the earth and we don't know it
just thought i'd add that i'm kidding
just thought i'd add that i'm kidding
Coincidentally, other people have had that same thought, but they weren't joking. The Nazis actually believed at a time that this is how we lived, and so they tried to spot the British fleet by looking up into the sky. I believe it's quite obvious what the result was...
This theory, if you'd like more informaiton (doubting you will) is called "Inverted Earth". Surprisingly, people still believe in it.
QUOTE(Cynocephalus @ Apr 11 2007, 10:25 AM) [snapback]1623712[/snapback]
A very detailed (and fictional, mind you) account of the "Hollow Earth" theory is Jules Verne's A Journey to the Center of the Earth.
The adventurer sees dinosaurs, aliens, and many other things. But, though fictional, one must wonder why Verne thought of it.
Maybe he knew something?
The adventurer sees dinosaurs, aliens, and many other things. But, though fictional, one must wonder why Verne thought of it.
Maybe he knew something?
Or maybe just a good imagination.
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The most famous hollow Earth model includes huge polar holes between 2000 and 4000 kilometres across that open to the interior of the planet. Many hollow Earth investigators have gone looking for these holes but nothing has ever been found. Today's satellite technology has proven that such holes are a total myth. In this theory the centre of the planet harbours a central sun that provides light and heat to the world within.
at first this was interesting, but at second thought it was impossible. in a part of the article that i quoted above from Hollow earth theory. in the past where there were no Satellite, when no man could reach the poles in our planet.
QUOTE(hewa @ Apr 11 2007, 11:32 AM) [snapback]1623731[/snapback]
Coincidentally, other people have had that same thought, but they weren't joking. The Nazis actually believed at a time that this is how we lived, and so they tried to spot the British fleet by looking up into the sky. I believe it's quite obvious what the result was...
This theory, if you'd like more informaiton (doubting you will) is called "Inverted Earth". Surprisingly, people still believe in it.
This theory, if you'd like more informaiton (doubting you will) is called "Inverted Earth". Surprisingly, people still believe in it.
...Yeah. Right.
That /other/ crack-pot theory is illogical and just plain silly.
People with glass houses and what-not...
--Jaylemurph
PS: Emma, this was the most profoundly useful and wise thing anybody's said around here in a while: "Just because there are two different theories, it doesn't mean they have equal credibility."
Thanks for saying it.
QUOTE(jaylemurph @ Apr 11 2007, 01:10 PM) [snapback]1623835[/snapback]
...Yeah. Right.
That /other/ crack-pot theory is illogical and just plain silly.
People with glass houses and what-not...
--Jaylemurph
PS: Emma, this was the most profoundly useful and wise thing anybody's said around here in a while: "Just because there are two different theories, it doesn't mean they have equal credibility."
Thanks for saying it.
That /other/ crack-pot theory is illogical and just plain silly.
People with glass houses and what-not...
--Jaylemurph
PS: Emma, this was the most profoundly useful and wise thing anybody's said around here in a while: "Just because there are two different theories, it doesn't mean they have equal credibility."
Thanks for saying it.
First of all, at no point have I ever said that my theory was every equal to the theory of plate tectonics, I said that plate tectonics was a theory. Second off, the inverted earth theory was by fact proven wrong, you are not able to see across the world by looking in the sky, and we are able to travel to space, so this theory is proven wrong, and no longer a theory but a fact.
And something else I'd like to point out is that MY theory has no need for a hollow earth.
QUOTE(hewa @ Apr 11 2007, 01:35 PM) [snapback]1623864[/snapback]
First of all, at no point have I ever said that my theory was every equal to the theory of plate tectonics, I said that plate tectonics was a theory. Second off, the inverted earth theory was by fact proven wrong, you are not able to see across the world by looking in the sky, and we are able to travel to space, so this theory is proven wrong, and no longer a theory but a fact.
And something else I'd like to point out is that MY theory has no need for a hollow earth.
And something else I'd like to point out is that MY theory has no need for a hollow earth.
All I'm saying is that people with pseudo-scientific theories cherry-picked from the mythos of several different cultures and little to no hard evidence would do well not to mock other pseudo-scientific theories. Especially if they're on the look-out for support.
--Jaylemurph
QUOTE(jaylemurph @ Apr 11 2007, 02:19 PM) [snapback]1623947[/snapback]
All I'm saying is that people with pseudo-scientific theories cherry-picked from the mythos of several different cultures and little to no hard evidence would do well not to mock other pseudo-scientific theories. Especially if they're on the look-out for support.
--Jaylemurph
--Jaylemurph
I agree with you completely, and that is why this is a theory. Every fact that I have mentioned is based on unproven fact, but at no time have I used one independant account. I have used whatever accounts had things in common, what seemed to make the most sense. Really, it's as true as any religion is but I'd like to state and completely stress MY OPINION OR THEORIES ARE NOT A RELIGION. I USE SCIENTIFIC AND HISTORICAL INVESTIGATION. AT NO POINT AM I STARTING A CULT OR A GOD TO FOLLOW. EVERYTHING I HAVE MENTIONED IS JUST A THOUGHT, AND NOTHING ELSE.
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