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jesspy
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I was watching a ad for the next super man episode with THE FLASH in it and I got into an argument with my brother about who was faster SUPERMAN or the FLASH. I would like your thoughts
Pax Unum
the Flash has been shown in various races against Superman to determine which one is faster (or as part of a mutual effort to thwart some type of threat); these races, however, often resulted in ties (or indeterminate results). However, in recent races between Wally and Superman, West has been shown to be the faster of the two.

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jesspy
thanks for the info i will show it to my brother Im sure this debate thingy will continue
Pax Unum
QUOTE(jesspy @ May 8 2006, 07:55 AM) [snapback]1179463[/snapback]

thanks for the info i will show it to my brother Im sure this debate thingy will continue

glad to help grin2.gif
MartOh
Flash may be faster, but in a fight Supermen will defenetly win. cool.gif
__Kratos__
Superman, without question. yes.gif

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It's a bird! It's a plane! IT'S SUPERMAN! w00t.gif
Immortal Norway
The flash, you know it`s a reason that his name is The Flash.
Pax Unum
QUOTE(MartOh @ May 8 2006, 08:39 AM) [snapback]1179510[/snapback]

Flash may be faster, but in a fight Supermen will defenetly win. cool.gif


unless the Flash has Kryptonite... dontgetit.gif

LINK -> Kryptonite
Celumnaz
I think I remember it being written that the flash was faster. I know there's been a few races but something always happens.

I'd have thought superman, but they wrote it so it's flash... so voted flash.
exeller
In the first Superman movie, didn't superman reverse the direction of the planet's spin by flying around it countless times per second? so I say superman thumbsup.gif
SecondHeartbeat
the flash would kick supermans ass
Kaknelson
LOL.

And the posts i have put out have been deleted!! ??


Anyways, flash is faster on foot, but superman can lift his body up and fly, and probably pass flash in a flash.
jesspy
According to my brothers school friends Flash is supposedly as fast as light hence the name flash as in lightening or something.
Its claimed that a bullet is travels between 180 - 1500 m/s so Superman is faster thena bullet but I havent seen anywhere saying he is the speed of light.
but light is said to travel at 300 000 000 M/S per second

So flash should be the winner i think. i dont know as i have never seen a reference to flash being as fast as light unless someone has and wishes to postr it or whatever we will call it a tie. i will watch this weeks episode of smallville (if i remember) and see who wins
Pax Unum
QUOTE(jesspy @ May 9 2006, 08:03 AM) [snapback]1181082[/snapback]

According to my brothers school friends Flash is supposedly as fast as light hence the name flash as in lightening or something.
Its claimed that a bullet is travels between 180 - 1500 m/s so Superman is faster thena bullet but I havent seen anywhere saying he is the speed of light.
but light is said to travel at 300 000 000 M/S per second

So flash should be the winner i think. i dont know as i have never seen a reference to flash being as fast as light unless someone has and wishes to postr it or whatever we will call it a tie. i will watch this weeks episode of smallville (if i remember) and see who wins


Wally has managed to reach the seemingly impossible speeds beyond light that lead into the speed force.

LINK -> Wally West
jesspy
QUOTE(Pax Unum @ May 9 2006, 11:18 PM) [snapback]1181098[/snapback]

Wally has managed to reach the seemingly impossible speeds beyond light that lead into the speed force.

LINK -> Wally West



oooooooooh thanks for that and another question is Flash enemies with Superman or are they like different all together

Wally what a funny name

wait wait........Wheres wally? dontgetit.gif........There he is......wait his gone huh.gif
Pax Unum
QUOTE(jesspy @ May 9 2006, 08:35 AM) [snapback]1181120[/snapback]

oooooooooh thanks for that and another question is Flash enemies with Superman or are they like different all together

Wally what a funny name

wait wait........Wheres wally? dontgetit.gif........There he is......wait his gone huh.gif


An episode of Superman: The Animated Series called "Speed Demons" featured the first animated appearance of Wally West as Flash.

Here's how the episode was described: "Wally West is the Scarlet Speedster from Central City, "The Flash". Unlike Superman, who is all business, The Flash is a wise cracking, glory hound. His is driven by his HUGE ego and his big mouth. The Flash comes to Metropolis to compete in a race around the world against Superman for charity. During of the competition, a Flash villain from Central City, The Weather Wizard, uses his devices of destruction to threaten Metropolis and put the race on hold. It forces Superman and The Flash to work together to defeat the Weather Wizard. In the process of their team work, Superman gains respect for The Flash, and they continue their race to see who's the fastest hero on Earth."

SAMURAI-X
Had to say Flash but Superman is my fav., i mean speed is his only power so it would have to be greater than supermans just cause he would know how to use it better, i don't know if you guys have ever watch justice league but they just had a episode where lex luther gets his mind put into flash's body, never thought flash would be that tough but he was the man in flashs body, never seen superman make tornados with his speed.

Oh and there was an episode of Smallville with Clark and Wally when they are younger and Clark got burned at the end of the show tryin to keep up.

Superman is the man though just not when it comes to beating flash in a race yes.gif
Kaknelson
Superman !!!!!!!!! cool.gif

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Kaknelson
Superman has the ability to change earths axis, and hence go back in time, he's much faster!
SAMURAI-X
I'm sure the flash could do the same, he just never tried, nice pic of superman though yes.gif
jesspy
well I saw the smallville episode and the Flash was clearly faster.

But hey i guess we will never know
coldethyl
I think William Shatner as himself could take them both.

For some reason this thread has got me really wondering. I mean, Superman is, well Superman but the Flash only really has speed going for him. I think I gotta go with Superman because he can fly fast enough to spin the Earth backwards. If Flash could do that I might reconsider. I'm holding out on voting though because this is very important.
Shivel
QUOTE(Norwegian Phoenix @ May 8 2006, 10:33 AM) [snapback]1179572[/snapback]

The flash, you know it`s a reason that his name is The Flash.


Just because he named himself The Flash does not mean he is faster than Super-Man. no.gif

That being said, I really think it's only fitting that The Flash be the quickest of the two.
coldethyl
I think I might have to discuss this with my brother.

Still holding my vote.
Kaknelson
It's a bird, it's a plane, it's Superman!

Superman can travel at any speed, easily as fast as Flash. He just looks like a plane flying by, because he likes to cruise. He enjoys flying, unlike the sketchy bolty Flash.
cryptosporidium137
Flash is probably faster. Superman is still cool, though.

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MJB222
A come on! tongue.gif Hasn't anyone ever heard the joke? tongue.gif

Q: In a race around the world, who would win, the Flash or Superman?

A: Chuck Norris thumbsup.gif


But seriously, Superman would win. thumbsup.gif
StalingradK
Flash FTW!
jesspy
Found this when i googled

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[- Superman vs. Flash -]

Okay, this is absolutely ridiculous. I'm sick and tired of having this conversation over and over so here's the real lowdown
Race 1 - Superman #199

The day, June 10th. The mood, tense. Actually, let's start off with how the race actually came about. The Secretary General of the United Nations called Superman and Flash in for a little chat. He explained to them that the UN's funds for the sick and hungry was running dry and hoped that the two super heroes would put on a race to help raise money for the fund. Of course they both agreed, being the compassionate super heroes that they are and it was set. Now for those of us who are betting men it is quite obvious that a race like this without any action would be more masturbation than race...I mean let's be serious. It just so happens that there are going to be some HEAVY wagers placed on both sides of the table. The American syndicate placed a on Superman to the tune of one million dollars. To make sure that Superman won, Mr. Vincent retained the services of one Dr. Werner Von Broder to create a fake Flash that was fast enough to keep up with Superman, but could never beat him*. The Continental crime syndicate also would like to protect their investment and asked Dr. Rober Carson to make sure that Flash was the winner of this race. Back to race day...the rules were simple: they would race three times around the world and Superman was not allowed to fly (of course). The starting pistol sounds and the racers are off. There are a few hiccups during the first two laps around the world but to make a long story short they are neck and neck going into the final lap. This is where I think that things get a little too coincidental. Somewhere in Nevada, both crime syndicates have set their traps...Flash was stopped with bulletproof glass and Superman was brought to a halt with a little bit of the ol' K dust. Simultaneously the fake Superman and Flash are released (yes, apparently Mr. Carson decided on a rocket-powered double himself) and they continue on towards the finish line. Obviously since both super hero doubles were programmed to lose, neither one of them crossed the finish line and they started arguing. About this time some gayness happens and superman frees Flash and visa versa and they cross the finish line at exactly the same time. A rather disappointing outcome indeed...

RESULT: TIE
SCORE: Superman 1/2 - Flash 1/2

* - The plan called for the Flash lookalike to be propelled by rocket-powered boots which in my opinion is a ridiculous idea as it could never keep an object traveling at a speed needed to stay competitive (~140,000 mph in this version).

Race 2 - Flash #175

Let's hope this race has a somewhat better outcome. It started when Flash and Superman crossed paths answering the JLA signaler. When they discovered that neither one of them had actually issued a signal they both hurried over JLA headquarters. The other members of the League were gone and they found two alien gamblers in their place, Rokk and Sorban. These two had put some money on the first race, and not being satisfied with the output insisted that they race again. As a little incentive, if Flash were to lose, Central City would be destroyed and if Superman lost, Metropolis would be destroyed. Not having much of a choice the super heroes agreed to race. Instead of racing around the earth, this time they would race to the edge of the Milky Way Galaxy and back, which is about 40,000 light-years away. The first thing that you should be asking yourself is "that's stupid, Flash won't be able to breath in space". Well someone came up with the ridiculous idea to surrounding Flash with an aura that changed interstellar dust into oxygen for him to breath, and a walkway on which to run. Anyway, long story short, some time during the race Superman learns that Rokk and Sorban aren't even ON earth and are back on their home plant gambling on volcanic eruptions. So Flash and Superman decide to head back to earth. They find that the impostors are Kadabra and Reverse-Flash and the race was part of a plot to put the kibosh on Flash. Once again we are left with a tie. On a side note, I must mention that the reason a winner could not be decided in this race is because they were travelling so fast when they crossed the finish line that their true state could not be measured. Now I'm not one to argue with DC's interpretation of quantum mechanics, what I do wonder about is why they continued to race after they found out that it was just a big setup? I guess we'll just chalk this one up to these guys being some bad ass mo'fos once again.

RESULT: TIE
SCORE: Superman 1 - Flash 1

Race 3 - World's Finest #198 and #199

This debacle took two comics to unveil. It gets pretty tricky so watch out. Apparently, time distortions start swapping people between eras on Earth and the Guardians of the Universe summoned Flash and Superman. It turned out that there were a group of faster than light Anachronids were interfering with the flow of time and if two people could travel at similar speeds in the opposite direction of these beasts, their signal would be disrupted. So they start off running and Flash suggests that they make it a race since their two previous races ended in ties (as we all well know). Superman, not being the type to back down says giddy up and they are off. Long story short, a fight here, a fight there and Flash gets to the Anachronids' power switch before Superman....finally we have a decisive winner!

RESULT: FLASH WINS
SCORE: Superman 1 - Flash 2

THE FLASH IS THE FASTEST MAN ALIVE! ANY ATTEMPT TO PROVE OTHERWISE IS WORTHLESS AS THE COMICS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES!


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DaRkSiDeR
In terms of speed..

stoned cheetah on weed from Harold & Kumar go to white castle > flash > superman

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BFD
Hi all-I voted Flash, for reasons already ginem in this thread.

Agree that Superman is besy overall, but Flash wins in the speed caterory.
Kaknelson
You guys can hate, or say what you wish on SUPERMAN. But, it's obvious if he can TURN BACK TIME with his speed, he is faster than flash.

Flash is as fast as lightning.

Supermans speed is unmeasuarable.
zarvirus
This will clearly flashout your doubts tongue.gif

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Do the math!!!
Kaknelson
QUOTE(zarvirus @ May 14 2006, 04:50 PM) [snapback]1188632[/snapback]


You must have seen the superman movie when he turned the earth backward in time, and around like 16 times in less than 6 seconds. I mean c'mon! yes.gif
Aristocrates
Cmon, the flash is the fastest. It's like his only power therfore he he must be the best at it. Superman is exceptionally good in almost every category.

>>>>>The Master Chief could kick Superman's and Flash's ass any day, AT THE SAME TIME
Kaknelson
QUOTE(Master_Chief @ May 15 2006, 01:49 PM) [snapback]1189979[/snapback]

Cmon, the flash is the fastest. It's like his only power therfore he he must be the best at it. Superman is exceptionally good in almost every category.

>>>>>The Master Chief could kick Superman's and Flash's ass any day, AT THE SAME TIME



LoL!!!!


You gonna cook up an ass-whoopin for them both huh. Watch out flash is fast, and superman is faster!
coldethyl
Okay I voted.
I had to go with Superman.
I think that Superman is the perfect superhero and saying that he could be beat at anything is kind of an insult. I think it would be a close race and The Flash might even cheat with Kryptonite in his pockets, but ultimately it has to be Superman as the winner. I mean he came back from the dead for crying out loud!
jesspy
okay after seeing that comic book stip thing i will say Flash currently looking for the movie with the earth being turned backwards in six seconds or so

I asked my dad to and he is a big superman fan but even he admits that the flash is faster.
coldethyl
My hubby found this:

Argument for Flash

But I still go with Superman.
But that's just me.
Personally, I like Wonder Woman best.
greywolf
hi,
i have an old comic book that shows the race between superman and flash.it shows flash as the winner,but only by a millisecond.i like both of them. grin2.gif
SAMURAI-X
QUOTE(Kaknelson @ May 14 2006, 06:35 PM) [snapback]1188528[/snapback]

You guys can hate, or say what you wish on SUPERMAN. But, it's obvious if he can TURN BACK TIME with his speed, he is faster than flash.

Flash is as fast as lightning.

Supermans speed is unmeasuarable.



faster than a speeding bullet? huh.gif
MK ULTRA
I voted Flash.
He outran Superman in an episode of Smallville running backwards!

The bit with Superman turning back time was silly imo,but maybe if Flash tried,he'd probably do it quicker. thumbsup.gif
eden grange
QUOTE(MK ULTRA @ May 17 2006, 03:54 PM) [snapback]1192963[/snapback]

I voted Flash.
He outran Superman in an episode of Smallville running backwards!

The bit with Superman turning back time was silly imo,but maybe if Flash tried,he'd probably do it quicker. thumbsup.gif



He has and succeeded.The only thing that slows the flash down is that he has to sustain his enhanced metabolism to continue his super speed, superman however is solar powered he does eat but his metabolism is much slower then the flash`s, all for of them!
mr. E
Alright, I'm an avid comics reader, and the Flash is faster than Superman. In the Post Crisis DC universe, The Flash can exceed the speed of light, while Superman can almost reach the speed of light, so he's extremely fast, but not as fast as the Flash. Of course, the actual speed of both characters (as is the case with a lot of comic heroes) is never set in stone and fluctuates from writer to writer, so it's definitely not a science. Kaknelson, just as a pet peeve that i have, i have to say that the whole "circling the earth thing to turn back time" was in the Superman MOVIE, not the comic, so the source material should be looked at first to make a decision. I mean, come on, Superman also uses some kind of "hypnotic kiss" in one of the films, and then he looks at a falling wall about to crush some people and it somehow rebuilds itself in another of the movies. Both of these powers were totally made up for the films.
As for a cool Flash read, pick up DC Frontiers by Darwyn Cooke. One of the issues tells an awesome Flash story, while in another it shows him running faster than the speed of light to cover an enormous creature with a "shrink ray" to destroy it. Awesome stuff.
I do love Superman. He is an awesome character, and one of my all time faves, but the Flash is faster. Period.
jesspy
Okay thanks to everyone who posted but we have our winner *hands trophy to the Flash*

Fell free to keep commenting but i know deep in my heart its the Flash who is faster.

also i saw that episode of Smallville where the Flash ran backwards and clark seriously looked like he was tired lol
Travisimo
Flash is definetly faster.
There was this episode in Justice League where Lex Luthor merged with Brainiac and Flash stopped him using his speed and almost disappeared where superman did nothing.
coldethyl
Okay.

I'm still going with Superman because he's the ultimate superhero though.

Flash can keep his trophy but I don't buy it. no.gif

Wonder Woman is sexier than both of them. yes.gif
Megalomania
QUOTE(Pax Unum @ May 9 2006, 12:42 AM) [snapback]1179586[/snapback]

unless the Flash has Kryptonite... dontgetit.gif

LINK -> Kryptonite


Flash is faster, and can go back in time.
If Superman actually started winning, all the sudden his mum falls down the stairs 30 years ealier, and Superman has a large dent in his head.
Suddenly, Superman no thunk good no more.
jesspy
QUOTE(coldethyl @ May 20 2006, 10:37 AM) [snapback]1196743[/snapback]

Okay.

I'm still going with Superman because he's the ultimate superhero though.

Flash can keep his trophy but I don't buy it. no.gif

Wonder Woman is sexier than both of them. yes.gif



lol I wonder what would happen if Superman and wonderwoman had a child?

Will that child be faster then the Flash
coldethyl
QUOTE(jesspy @ May 19 2006, 09:04 PM) [snapback]1196842[/snapback]

lol I wonder what would happen if Superman and wonderwoman had a child?

Will that child be faster then the Flash


I don't really want her to hook up with anyone really. It would kind of mess me up. hmm.gif
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