A recent study done by the watchdog group "Cornucopia Institute" in regards to the recent debate and controversy surrounding so called "organic milk" may not be organic after all according to the study...yet consumers are paying premium prices for what they beleive to be organic dairy...Some of the biggest organic dairy brands such as Horizion Organic and Aurora Organic-aledgedly purchase the bulk of there milk from feed lots where cows have little or no access to pasture, according to the report. In addition, many of these feedlots import calves from conventional farms that use genetically engineered grains and antibiotics...Saddly the USDA and the Organic Trade Assc. seem to be turning a blind eye to the issue....You can visit cornucopia.org to see how your favorite dairy measures up........
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A recent study done by the watchdog group "Cornucopia Institute" in regards to the recent debate and controversy surrounding so called "organic milk" may not be organic after all according to the study...yet consumers are paying premium prices for what they beleive to be organic dairy...Some of the biggest organic dairy brands such as Horizion Organic and Aurora Organic-aledgedly purchase the bulk of there milk from feed lots where cows have little or no access to pasture, according to the report. In addition, many of these feedlots import calves from conventional farms that use genetically engineered grains and antibiotics...Saddly the USDA and the Organic Trade Assc. seem to be turning a blind eye to the issue....You can visit cornucopia.org to see how your favorite dairy measures up........
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That's pretty bad. I was speaking with a friend recently about the lax us rules for applying "organic" to food items on U.S shelves. And I swear I have seen Horizon state on the carton that it uses animals that have not been subjected to hormone feed ect.
I don't drink milk very often but when I do I try and by Horizon because it is readily available. Good to know!
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That's pretty bad. I was speaking with a friend recently about the lax us rules for applying "organic" to food items on U.S shelves. And I swear I have seen Horizon state on the carton that it uses animals that have not been subjected to hormone feed ect.
I don't drink milk very often but when I do I try and by Horizon because it is readily available. Good to know!
i don't drink milk at all because i know that its not safe but my hubby does on occassion and I was making sure i was buying organic and now I'm very displeased...I have written my senator along with alot of others....The laws are tricky...but if they are saying it mets organic standards in writting they have too...thats is a LAW Suit I'm gonna look next time myself......You have to prove anything in writing..lol
I would be ticked to if I found out my milk wasn't really what it was claimed. Isn't that false advertising; which is illegal? The law is quite clear on that issue.
Always check to say if milk is free-range, otherwise you could be buying milk from a genetically modified cow who has been kept in a cage all her life (cruel, not just dangerously unhealthy).
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Seems to be a issue in California and massachets so far..I saw a WArning tonight at my local whole foods store...they posted the risks and our local Trader Joes has decided to ignore the warning and posted somehthing differrntly which I saw yesterday......This is found in milk so any residents of either state do not drink the milk....
Seems to be a issue in California and massachets so far..I saw a WArning tonight at my local whole foods store...they posted the risks and our local Trader Joes has decided to ignore the warning and posted somehthing differrntly which I saw yesterday......This is found in milk so any residents of either state do not drink the milk....
Raw Milk!!!
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http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles...ngton-post.aspx
Raw milk does not contain synthetic vitamin D, which is known to be toxic to the liver, yet is still added to most commercial milk.
Raw milk contains healthy cholesterol.
Pasteurizing milk destroys enzymes, diminishes vitamins, denatures fragile milk proteins, destroys vitamin B12 and vitamin B6, kills beneficial bacteria, and promotes pathogens.
From my perspective, there’s simply no rational justification to ever drink pasteurized milk, even organic pasteurized milk.
Once you heat milk, you distort the configuration -- the shape -- of the fragile milk protein (see illustration on left), turning it from something good into something bad that will actually cause allergies and other autoimmune dysfunction. So, even if you start with organic milk from grass-fed cows, once you heat it the milk is ruined and should not be consumed.
In addition to the reasons mentioned above, raw-milk drinkers also rave about these additional benefits:
You feel the health benefits: Raw milk is not associated with any of the health problems surrounding pasteurized milk, such as rheumatoid arthritis, skin rashes, diarrhea, and cramps. Even people who have been allergic to pasteurized milk for many years can typically tolerate and even thrive on raw milk.
It tastes better: As with any food, fresher is always better and this applies to milk as well. Fresh raw milk is creamier and better tasting than pasteurized milk that has a shelf life of several weeks.
Raw milk does not contain synthetic vitamin D, which is known to be toxic to the liver, yet is still added to most commercial milk.
Raw milk contains healthy cholesterol.
Pasteurizing milk destroys enzymes, diminishes vitamins, denatures fragile milk proteins, destroys vitamin B12 and vitamin B6, kills beneficial bacteria, and promotes pathogens.
From my perspective, there’s simply no rational justification to ever drink pasteurized milk, even organic pasteurized milk.
Once you heat milk, you distort the configuration -- the shape -- of the fragile milk protein (see illustration on left), turning it from something good into something bad that will actually cause allergies and other autoimmune dysfunction. So, even if you start with organic milk from grass-fed cows, once you heat it the milk is ruined and should not be consumed.
In addition to the reasons mentioned above, raw-milk drinkers also rave about these additional benefits:
You feel the health benefits: Raw milk is not associated with any of the health problems surrounding pasteurized milk, such as rheumatoid arthritis, skin rashes, diarrhea, and cramps. Even people who have been allergic to pasteurized milk for many years can typically tolerate and even thrive on raw milk.
It tastes better: As with any food, fresher is always better and this applies to milk as well. Fresh raw milk is creamier and better tasting than pasteurized milk that has a shelf life of several weeks.
I have never been a big milk drinker. Its unnatural anyway. Think about it, we are the only species that regularly consumes milk after being weened, and the milk of another species at that! Its kind of ironic, all these people hung up on organic and natural food yet are willing to drink milk, something very unnatural.
QUOTE(camlax @ Sep 17 2007, 08:33 PM) 
I have never been a big milk drinker. Its unnatural anyway. Think about it, we are the only species that regularly consumes milk after being weened, and the milk of another species at that! Its kind of ironic, all these people hung up on organic and natural food yet are willing to drink milk, something very unnatural.
totallya agree with you there, camlax. If you look at how many people are lactose intolerant or allergic to milk, then maybe it seem quite logical that humans shouldn't have milk products after they are infants.
Well i have hated milk since as far back as i can remember! And my mother tells me she would even have to flavour the milk in my bottle as a baby just to get me to drink it, and she told me i absolutely refused breast milk as well! I don,t even like it in cerial, i,d rather just poor juice or even pop on my corn flakes! And a lot of these so called organic foods arn,t, i think if you want to go organic you have to really research it or your just being ripped off in a lot of cases! Not all, but quite a few!
"Free-range" and "organic" are terms or more often marketing tools used to describe food like beef, chicken, dairy products and eggs available for human consumption. These terms, sometimes, make people feel better about what their eating. Cleanliness of consumable foodstuffs is a concern for some; the moral dilemma of whether or not creatures who provide this food are treated well is another.
These two terms are often confused.
"Free-range" usually denotes that animals are fed in pasture and not a lot. "Organic" usually means the animal is not injected or given food injected with growth hormones.
It is possible to purchase food that's both organic and free-range but one does not equal the other.
info on "organic"
info in "free-range"
These two terms are often confused.
"Free-range" usually denotes that animals are fed in pasture and not a lot. "Organic" usually means the animal is not injected or given food injected with growth hormones.
It is possible to purchase food that's both organic and free-range but one does not equal the other.
info on "organic"
info in "free-range"
Hi all,
I think if you really want free range you should go to your local farmer, I've been going to my local farm shop for the last two years you can even go around and pick your own free range eggs, chicken, duck you can even get milk there its far cheaper and you know what your getting, he also sells pork, plus famers dont get paid much anyway so it helps him keep farming and in turn keeps the countryside in check, its a win win situation,
Steve,
I think if you really want free range you should go to your local farmer, I've been going to my local farm shop for the last two years you can even go around and pick your own free range eggs, chicken, duck you can even get milk there its far cheaper and you know what your getting, he also sells pork, plus famers dont get paid much anyway so it helps him keep farming and in turn keeps the countryside in check, its a win win situation,
Steve,
QUOTE(stevewinn @ Sep 18 2007, 07:21 AM)
Hi all,
I think if you really want free range you should go to your local farmer, I've been going to my local farm shop for the last two years you can even go around and pick your own free range eggs, chicken, duck you can even get milk there its far cheaper and you know what your getting, he also sells pork, plus famers dont get paid much anyway so it helps him keep farming and in turn keeps the countryside in check, its a win win situation,
Steve,
I think if you really want free range you should go to your local farmer, I've been going to my local farm shop for the last two years you can even go around and pick your own free range eggs, chicken, duck you can even get milk there its far cheaper and you know what your getting, he also sells pork, plus famers dont get paid much anyway so it helps him keep farming and in turn keeps the countryside in check, its a win win situation,
Steve,
Good idea, steve, there are a lot of places here, but thank goodness my parents help out with their eggs when their chickens are laying, I know what goes into those chickens. Now, for those of you who don't know, the ONLY way to have totally organic products is to have gigantic green houses with filtered and air, water and dirt. The seeds of the plants would have to have been extracted from these plants after three or four generations before they could be called truly organic. The same would be for animals. Why? Well, what we have is pollutants in the air, which the plants breath in as well as rain bringing down the pollutants. The "organic" farms are quite often right next to other farms which do spray their products and so that spray is carried over on the wind and in the soil to the organic farm. I worked for a store that sold non-spray products, and did a lot of research on this. Organic quite often means nothing when buying products.
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