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RachelM
QUOTE(Azalin @ May 12 2006, 07:37 PM) [snapback]1186284[/snapback]

It's been debunked, since it cannot be proven. Soon as someone shows that it's not possible, its debunked. Until another scientist can come along, and patch up all of the mis-conceptions, it will remain in that state, just another theory.


You can't prove god exists, so according to your logic god has been debunked.

And, it's a scientific theory.
Azalin
QUOTE(RachelM @ May 13 2006, 04:14 PM) [snapback]1186892[/snapback]

You can't prove god exists, so according to your logic god has been debunked.

And, it's a scientific theory.


No, I cannot prove God exists, so therefore Christian faith is debunked. Until Jesus or God comes to earth and explains exactly how the world was created, it will not be a textbook definition on how the world was created. And also neither can they prove the Big Bang created the universe. As an example, take a murder trial. The attorney says the murderer shot the victim, plain and simple. The defense attorney says thats impossible, because there was a brick wall between the murderer and the victim. Therefore, the case will remain unsolved until someone can bridge the gap.

I personally believe we will never be able to comphrehend how the universe was created. The answer can be right in front of us, but we are to ignorant to see it. You would then assume I doubt the human ability to problem solve and rationalize plausible theorys, however, I think we credit ourselves much more. It's the equivalent of trying to teach trigonometry to a dog. The dog will never EVER understand the formulas, even though they lie right in front of it.
RachelM
QUOTE(Azalin @ May 13 2006, 11:41 AM) [snapback]1186919[/snapback]

I personally believe we will never be able to comphrehend how the universe was created. The answer can be right in front of us, but we are to ignorant to see it. You would then assume I doubt the human ability to problem solve and rationalize plausible theorys, however, I think we credit ourselves much more. It's the equivalent of trying to teach trigonometry to a dog. The dog will never EVER understand the formulas, even though they lie right in front of it.

And, I personally believe that we are comprehending how the universe came into being. I also have more faith in the human ability than you do. I think there are those who don't want to find the truth, because they're afraid that it won't match up to what they believe.

What are you going to do if we find out that dog's can understand trig? ohmy.gif grin2.gif
Azalin
QUOTE(RachelM @ May 13 2006, 04:51 PM) [snapback]1186931[/snapback]


What are you going to do if we find out that dog's can understand trig? ohmy.gif grin2.gif


It will never happen, so any answer is irrelevant.
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(Azalin @ May 13 2006, 06:13 PM) [snapback]1186952[/snapback]

It will never happen, so any answer is irrelevant.

prove it?
Imaginary Friend
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RachelM
QUOTE(Azalin @ May 13 2006, 12:13 PM) [snapback]1186952[/snapback]

It will never happen, so any answer is irrelevant.


Azalin...it was just a little joke. That's why I put the grin2.gif at the end of it.
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(RachelM @ May 13 2006, 06:17 PM) [snapback]1186963[/snapback]

Azalin...it was just a little joke. That's why I put the grin2.gif at the end of it.

Dont sweat it RM...you will find you will have to start saying - J/K <--and highlighting it just to let them read it...in fact you will find yourself highlighting a lot cuz some people just cant read things right innocent.gif
Azalin
QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ May 13 2006, 05:14 PM) [snapback]1186953[/snapback]

prove it?


I don't have to prove anything, you have to prove to me a dog can do advanced trigonometry.
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(Azalin @ May 13 2006, 05:41 PM) [snapback]1186919[/snapback]

No, I cannot prove God exists, so therefore Christian faith is debunked.

I like it w00t.gif in fact why stop at the christian faith LOL other faiths too yes.gif
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(Azalin @ May 13 2006, 06:22 PM) [snapback]1186969[/snapback]

I don't have to prove anything, you have to prove to me a dog can do advanced trigonometry.

OKAY then hop on a plane and come to my part of the world and i'll prove it w00t.gif laugh.gif
Azalin
QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ May 13 2006, 05:23 PM) [snapback]1186971[/snapback]

I like it w00t.gif in fact why stop at the christian faith LOL other faiths too yes.gif


There is no textbook definition on how the world was created. You cannot go to a bookstore and buy " How the world was created ". Instead they have about 200 books titled " How the world was created, according to Christianity , or Science, or Buddhism.
Paranoid Android
QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ May 14 2006, 03:14 AM) [snapback]1186953[/snapback]

prove it?
*Puts mathematics 1:01 in front of the family pooch*
*steps back to watch*
*family pooch devours book - literally*
*"allright doggie - what is Pythagoras' theorem"*
*pooch stares blankly at me, pukes up the text book*

Thus the dog has not understood trigonometry thumbsup.gif laugh.gif

regards, PA
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(Paranoid Android @ May 14 2006, 06:34 AM) [snapback]1187717[/snapback]

*Puts mathematics 1:01 in front of the family pooch*
*steps back to watch*
*family pooch devours book - literally*
*"allright doggie - what is Pythagoras' theorem"*
*pooch stares blankly at me, pukes up the text book*

Thus the dog has not understood trigonometry thumbsup.gif laugh.gif

regards, PA

Ok PA I take it you dont understand that this is all one great big joke lol w00t.gif
Paranoid Android
No, I knew it was a joke - see the " thumbsup.gif laugh.gif " at the end yes.gif
exeller
Does anyone else here believe that animals don't have souls? or is it just me? I just didn't want to bother reading everyones posts sleepy.gif
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(exe11er @ May 14 2006, 04:48 PM) [snapback]1188058[/snapback]

Does anyone else here believe that animals don't have souls? or is it just me? I just didn't want to bother reading everyones posts sleepy.gif

I believe that when God created evolution...he gave all living animals and humans a soul yes.gif
exeller
QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ May 15 2006, 01:28 AM) [snapback]1188806[/snapback]

I believe that when God created evolution...he gave all living animals and humans a soul yes.gif


I guess that's acceptable yes.gif
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(exe11er @ May 15 2006, 02:46 AM) [snapback]1188844[/snapback]

I guess that's acceptable yes.gif

DING!!! Thanks... w00t.gif thumbsup.gif
manapa99
QUOTE(exe11er @ May 14 2006, 11:48 AM) [snapback]1188058[/snapback]

Does anyone else here believe that animals don't have souls? or is it just me? I just didn't want to bother reading everyones posts sleepy.gif

i don't think animals have soul...
but then i think we're animals also... so lol
thumbsup.gif
artymoon
QUOTE(exe11er @ May 14 2006, 11:48 AM) [snapback]1188058[/snapback]

Does anyone else here believe that animals don't have souls? or is it just me?

How dare you say my dog Fluffypoo has no soul!! How...dare...YOU! laugh.gif rofl.gif
manapa99
QUOTE(artymoon @ May 14 2006, 11:36 PM) [snapback]1189009[/snapback]

How dare you say my dog Fluffypoo has no soul!! How...dare...YOU! laugh.gif rofl.gif

lol
i'm sorry if it makes you feel any better i don't think we have any either lol
no.gif

but that doesn't mean i don't like you anr your doggie
i love dogs....
yes.gif
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(manapa99 @ May 15 2006, 04:39 AM) [snapback]1189013[/snapback]

lol
i'm sorry if it makes you feel any better i don't think we have any either lol
no.gif

but that doesn't mean i don't like you anr your doggie
i love dogs....
yes.gif

And my springer harlie has a soul too yes.gif yes he does too so ner ner ner tongue.gif
exeller
My computer has a soul happy.gif
manapa99
my band director in my jazz class has soul..... lol
Beckys_Mom
My ciggy has a soul...and its smokin happy.gif








But seriously ...what makes people think that they are the only ones with a soul?? How can ANYONE prove this??? hmm.gif
exeller
QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ May 15 2006, 10:53 AM) [snapback]1189280[/snapback]

My ciggy has a soul...and its smokin happy.gif
But seriously ...what makes people think that they are the only ones with a soul?? How can ANYONE prove this??? hmm.gif


But that's the problem, we can't prove whether animals do or don't have souls, our assumptions are from what religion teaches about the soul.
Jack_of_Blades
I beleive that we weren't
just ploped on the planet as
Adam and Eve, but
evoled like anything eles on the
planet.

p.s. Why can't evolution be
God's work?
exeller
QUOTE(Bietsch @ May 15 2006, 11:26 PM) [snapback]1190204[/snapback]

p.s. Why can't evolution be God's work?


Exactly what I was thinking.
Jack_of_Blades
QUOTE(exe11er @ May 15 2006, 06:13 PM) [snapback]1190187[/snapback]

But that's the problem, we can't prove whether animals do or don't have souls, our assumptions are from what religion teaches about the soul.


I have met more animals with
souls than humans. Like my cat
Gussy ; he learns, can think,
and breaths anyone who says
he dosn't have a soul needs a
good clubing!
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(Bietsch @ May 16 2006, 12:26 AM) [snapback]1190204[/snapback]

I beleive that we weren't
just ploped on the planet as
Adam and Eve, but
evoled like anything eles on the
planet.

p.s. Why can't evolution be
God's work?

I have said time and time again evolution is Gods work...in my opinion it is grin2.gif
wishes2
QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ May 9 2006, 12:05 AM) [snapback]1180933[/snapback]

How many different species of animals , birds & insects there are?

Why would God spend a lil time creating every last animal known to man. including under the sea to the land and the sky above....


You don't need to know. Our human minds were not made to comprehend why exactly God did certain things. We don't need to know and never will until the end, because our minds won't be able to. It's frustrating, but true. happy.gif
exeller
QUOTE(wishes2 @ Jul 16 2006, 08:19 PM) [snapback]1272328[/snapback]

Our human minds were not made to comprehend why exactly God did certain things.


This is being said WAYYYY too often. You can't just answer all of the questions by saying that we're too dumb to understand God. How do we even know we're too dumb to understand it when it has never even been explained rolleyes.gif
Tangerine Sheri
QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ May 15 2006, 04:43 PM) [snapback]1190240[/snapback]

I have said time and time again evolution is Gods work...in my opinion it is grin2.gif

yes you have....and its a good opinion , you see how it all fits in gods world in your opiinion.... thumbsup.gif wub.gif ..
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(Sympa Sheri @ Jul 17 2006, 12:21 AM) [snapback]1272479[/snapback]

yes you have....and its a good opinion , you see how it all fits in gods world in your opiinion.... thumbsup.gif wub.gif ..

wub.gif Thankies grin2.gif
Cadetak
the bible says that Adam and Eve where the first humans created by god...that doesn't mean he didn't create more after them. Since adam and eve were the first they would be the focus of the bible story and couldbe considered the leaders of the human race. God probobly craeted other humans after adam and eve were kicked out of eden.

Mr. Fahrenheit
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…if you where to leave something to sit out for several months..the amount of different living germs is unbelievable that form from that one piece of rotten food…this is a FACT…so it’s beyond me how anyone cant understand this

The bacteria were in that spot all along, but they began to reproduce themselves. They did not "form" from the food. thumbsup.gif
I don't think God created life...mostly because I don't believe in god. grin2.gif
Moro
QUOTE
The bacteria were in that spot all along, but they began to reproduce themselves. They did not "form" from the food.

That could'nt have been explained more simple than that! thumbsup.gif
I mean if you do not believe it just read on it!
zandore
QUOTE(wishes2 @ Jul 16 2006, 04:19 PM) [snapback]1272328[/snapback]

You don't need to know. Our human minds were not made to comprehend why exactly God did certain things. We don't need to know and never will until the end, because our minds won't be able to. It's frustrating, but true. happy.gif
Ignorance is bliss!
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Try thinking outside of the box for once.
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