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king of dino's
O.k i need to know this Has been on my mind Since i herd it on The News who is bigger and stronger i am a support'a of Giganotosaurus plz post your Thorts on this and for thos who dont know wat Mapusaurus is well its a New meat eater found and some say the new biggest but Giganotosaurus holds the biggest Land killer title Post away peeps
Sofia Alexandra
This should be in the Palaeontology forum. And punctuation is recommended.
frogfish
I would put my money on Giginatosaurus as it was a wee bit larger and had 7-inch teeth...

The dinosaurs Saurophaganax and Spinosaurus were larger than both...
The Doctor
QUOTE(Sofia Alexandra @ May 9 2006, 05:52 PM) [snapback]1181362[/snapback]

And punctuation is recommended.

lol grin2.gif
As for the question I am willing to admit semi-ignorance on the subject of dino's so I've no idea which one would win. Maybye Gigantosarus; sounds big tongue.gif
Jack_of_Blades
QUOTE(king of dino's @ May 9 2006, 09:01 AM) [snapback]1181157[/snapback]

O.k i need to know this Has been on my mind Since i herd it on The News who is bigger and stronger i am a support'a of Giganotosaurus plz post your Thorts on this and for thos who dont know wat Mapusaurus is well its a New meat eater found and some say the new biggest but Giganotosaurus holds the biggest Land killer title Post away peeps


Gigantosaurus
king of dino's
Spino Was Not Bigger And you Dont Count the Spine Gigano Is Still The lagest Killer on Land Sadly Its Brain was that the Size of a Banana and spino was only Thort Big coz of the Dumb JP3 moive Everyone Knows how un Real they all are
robbieb
actualy a article i read on yahoo news said that they classfied spinosaurus as the largest meat eating dino sukka lol and umm i ithnk it would be a draw both would run from the other no sense fighting. dont wound what u can not kill
robbieb
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According to a study by dal Sasso et al. (2006), it was the largest of all carnivorous dinosaurs by a significant margin, even larger than Tyrannosaurus rex and Giganotosaurus. Spinosaurus is the longest known theropod, measuring 16 to 18 metres (52 to 60 feet) long and standing at 5 to 6 metres (16 to 20 feet) in height. Spinosaurus reached weights up to 9 tons, though further comparisons with related species suggest that adults could have reached sizes up to 20 tons and 21 m (70 ft) in length


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinosaurus
king of dino's
Gigano (not the monster from Godzilla) was 44-46 ft (13.5-14.3 m) weighed about 8 tons and stood 12 feet tall Spino It was about 40-50 feet long (12-15 m) and weighed 4 tons (Yahoo is Full of Dino poop thats why people Use Google now days)
king of dino's
by the way Can People Leave T-rex alone mean look King kong Fort T-rex and just to make King big and tuff they MAde rex lose Dont ya all Think rex is Getting Bad Thort about Him. i mean when will people Understand WE KNOW HE ANIT THE BIG KILLER
TRY TO FIGHT GODZILLA HUH KING KONG LIKE TO SEE YOU WIN
robbieb
hey godzilla does shoot fire i mean comeone thats hard to top. but any way if u lok at thel ink i gave u its fomr wikipedia and the quoute is off the site. i gave so there :^P lol
king of dino's
Well i just Found a good Fact your ya Spino is the Longest yes But jaw size and power No way near Giganotosaurus Spino's most close's fight it could win is a Carnotaur or a
Allosaur by the way biggest Means both Size of the body and length of the beast's
i am doing a Jaw test's to Will post soon
http://gavinrymill.com/dinosaurs/carnivores/
robbieb
the rea; problem here is evidenc is often inclunsive we get fragmented skeletos and we never known if the animal was fully grown or anything like that and we may never know the truth of there actualy full size they could reach.
frogfish
The little known Saurophaganax, possibly a subspecies of Allosaurus could possibly top 50. With estimates of its bone-fragments, it was estimated at 50 feet.
Samael
QUOTE(frogfish @ May 9 2006, 08:09 PM) [snapback]1181543[/snapback]

I would put my money on Giginatosaurus as it was a wee bit larger and had 7-inch teeth...

The dinosaurs Saurophaganax and Spinosaurus were larger than both...


Going off topic a WEE bit: Frogfish, do you have Asperger's Syndrome? You know lots about things and have a very logical mind. I have Asperger's Syndrome. Does anyone else have Asperger's Syndrome?
frogfish
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Frogfish, do you have Asperger's Syndrome?

Probably not...since my parents are both doctors (dad's a neurologist), they probably would of found out by now yes.gif
Argen
Frogfish, do you know how big Charcharodontosaurus was? I can't seem to find anything about it.
frogfish
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Frogfish, do you know how big Charcharodontosaurus was? I can't seem to find anything about it.

Many of the worlds experts, like Currie, think Carcharodontosaurus was in the range of 45 feet long....a relative of Giganotosaurus
sadistic jellyfish of doom
QUOTE(Bietsch @ May 9 2006, 01:11 PM) [snapback]1181653[/snapback]

Gigantosaurus


For the last time, its Gigan-O-tosaurus!
QUOTE(robbieb @ May 9 2006, 08:43 PM) [snapback]1182287[/snapback]

hey godzilla does shoot fire i mean comeone thats hard to top. but any way if u lok at thel ink i gave u its fomr wikipedia and the quoute is off the site. i gave so there :^P lol



QUOTE(king of dino's @ May 9 2006, 10:19 PM) [snapback]1182336[/snapback]

Well i just Found a good Fact your ya Spino is the Longest yes But jaw size and power No way near Giganotosaurus Spino's most close's fight it could win is a Carnotaur or a
Allosaur by the way biggest Means both Size of the body and length of the beast's
i am doing a Jaw test's to Will post soon
http://gavinrymill.com/dinosaurs/carnivores/

Allosaurus Maximus, a subspecies of allosaurus, could grow around 45 feet,
QUOTE(frogfish @ Jul 22 2006, 10:35 AM) [snapback]1279535[/snapback]

Many of the worlds experts, like Currie, think Carcharodontosaurus was in the range of 45 feet long....a relative of Giganotosaurus

Aye, but one o' my bros books says it was 20 feet. Of course, it also says allosaurus is 15 feet long, so...

QUOTE(frogfish @ Jul 23 2006, 05:48 PM) [snapback]1280918[/snapback]

Beipiaosaurus
Beipiaosaurus inexpectus

user posted image
Pronounced: Bay-pee-o-Sore-us
Diet: Carnivore (Meat-Eater)
Name Means: "Beipiao lizard"
Length: 7 feet (2.2 m)
Height: 4 feet (1.3 m)
Weight: 100 pounds (45 kilos)
Time: Early Cretaceous - 130 MYA
Location: Asia

Beipiaosaurus had the longest feathers of any dinosaur yet found. Classified as a meat-eater, it is thought that these dinosaurs would also have fed on insects a great deal of the time. It is considered a bird-like dinosaur and shared a number of features that are now found on modern birds.

Described in 1999, Beipiaosaurus is one of a few known bird-like dinosaurs. It came from the famous shale quarries of Liaoning, China, which are well known for producing many incredibly detailed fossils of small dinosaurs and birds. Most of the bird/dinosaur relationship studies are conducted on specimens from this quarry, as unique ecological conditions preserved even the soft parts of the animals that died at this site. These unusual conditions allowed for the perfect preservation of feathers.

Beipiaosaurus remains are fragmentary, but they do show that it was bipedal like other therizinosaurs and that it had sharp, curved hand claws and protofeathers .

Ah... a therizinosaur. Discovered in China if im not mistaken.
frogfish
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Allosaurus Maximus, a subspecies of allosaurus, could grow around 45 feet,

Aye, but one o' my bros books says it was 20 feet. Of course, it also says allosaurus is 15 feet long, so...

That book is WRONG thumbsup.gif

Saurophaganax possibly could of grwn over 50.

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Ah... a therizinosaur. Discovered in China if im not mistaken.

...ohmy.gif That post wasn't even in this thread!
sadistic jellyfish of doom
QUOTE(frogfish @ Aug 21 2006, 04:26 AM) [snapback]1315936[/snapback]

That book is WRONG thumbsup.gif

Saurophaganax possibly could of grwn over 50.
...ohmy.gif That post wasn't even in this thread!

I know fishboy! rolleyes.gif
Dino Dan
I think its pretty hard to tell on this subject, what was the heaviest, longest, more fierce, lager skull, larger teeth. All in all these theropods were huge eating machines. Maybe some were scavengers and maybe some were hunters, either way i wouldnt want to be in a situation with one. I also think some of the bigger ones may of been slightly lazier and not as fierce. Being bigger they may of been slower, although size is deffintely intimidating, but i think allosaurus would of been a scarier dinosaur then mapusaurus or giganotosaurus, but scientists really dont know a whole lot as far as their activities, speed and or eating habits.


But if i was to go with the largest carnivore i'd say it would be a toss up for sure between spinosaurus, allosaurus maximus, giganotosaurus and this new mapusaurus. Currie and Roldofo found this new mapusaurus and they are of the highest credited in the field and they said that the femur of mapusaurus was longer but skinnier than of giganotosaurus. So maybe mapusaurus was lankier but weight was around the same as of giganotosaurus. All in all these ancient animals are really impressive and very exciting. thumbsup.gif
fantazum
QUOTE(frogfish @ May 9 2006, 07:09 PM) [snapback]1181543[/snapback]

I would put my money on Giginatosaurus as it was a wee bit larger and had 7-inch teeth...

The dinosaurs Saurophaganax and Spinosaurus were larger than both...


If the bones of these creatures had not been found I would refuse to believe that such things could possibly have existed. The more we find the wierder these things get.
speshall mareens
QUOTE(Mister E. @ Jul 18 2006, 10:23 AM) [snapback]1274525[/snapback]
Going off topic a WEE bit: Frogfish, do you have Asperger's Syndrome? You know lots about things and have a very logical mind. I have Asperger's Syndrome. Does anyone else have Asperger's Syndrome?

i think it more OCD he is pretty set on that Allosaur. rolleyes.gif

and as to the charchadontasauras, go to paul serenos site, as i recal he discovered it (but i been wrong before)
cheo_vl
FIRST OF ALL godzilla DID fight king kong and completely kicked his ass, even though kong grabbed some power cables and learned to shoot electricity. i think it doesn't really matters who was bigger but who was more advanced, cause even if the dinosaur was over 50 feet long, if he was faced with a more cunning but slightly smaller killer, he would've been doomed.

FIRST OF ALL godzilla DID fight king kong and completely kicked his ass, even though kong grabbed some power cables and learned to shoot electricity. i think it doesn't really matters who was bigger but who was more advanced, cause even if the dinosaur was over 50 feet long, if he was faced with a more cunning but slightly smaller killer, he would've been doomed.


P.S. SPINOSAURUS SUCKS!!!!!!!!
draconic chronicler
QUOTE(Dino Dan @ Nov 27 2006, 11:16 PM) [snapback]1441483[/snapback]
I think its pretty hard to tell on this subject, what was the heaviest, longest, more fierce, lager skull, larger teeth. All in all these theropods were huge eating machines. Maybe some were scavengers and maybe some were hunters, either way i wouldnt want to be in a situation with one. I also think some of the bigger ones may of been slightly lazier and not as fierce. Being bigger they may of been slower, although size is deffintely intimidating, but i think allosaurus would of been a scarier dinosaur then mapusaurus or giganotosaurus, but scientists really dont know a whole lot as far as their activities, speed and or eating habits.
But if i was to go with the largest carnivore i'd say it would be a toss up for sure between spinosaurus, allosaurus maximus, giganotosaurus and this new mapusaurus. Currie and Roldofo found this new mapusaurus and they are of the highest credited in the field and they said that the femur of mapusaurus was longer but skinnier than of giganotosaurus. So maybe mapusaurus was lankier but weight was around the same as of giganotosaurus. All in all these ancient animals are really impressive and very exciting. thumbsup.gif


Geez, you have been out of it for a couple of years. The new spinosaur is about a third bigger than all known Theropods. The skull is over six feet, and the whole creature estimated to over at around 60 feet. I bet it will be a long time before any larger carnosaur is found, unless it is another spino.

Spino is now the king. Jurassic park III was ahead of its time.
speshall mareens
there are very few spinosaur fossils, and considering that w have only scratched the surface of paleontology and there still may be a larger dinosaur. but giganotosaurus was the biggest hands down. spinosaur may be that longest but not the largest. these are often mistaken. and since this debate is about size NOT length giganotosaurus is the largest.
draconic chronicler
QUOTE(speshall mareens @ Jan 26 2007, 08:48 PM) [snapback]1517540[/snapback]
there are very few spinosaur fossils, and considering that w have only scratched the surface of paleontology and there still may be a larger dinosaur. but giganotosaurus was the biggest hands down. spinosaur may be that longest but not the largest. these are often mistaken. and since this debate is about size NOT length giganotosaurus is the largest.


The latest Spinosaur also has the largest skull of any Carnosaur, over six feet long. It is a third larger than Giganotosaurus. Are you getting this stuff from cartoons, or what? Yes a larger carnivorous dinosaur may be found, but NOTHING else comes close to the latest spino. And the original spino, destroyed in Berlin and still larger than any of the rest, was only a Juvenile as the bones revealed!
speshall mareens
just cause i like spongebob! tongue.gif just kidding. no, I recently read an article (last night) that said that spinosaurus was the largest, showed scale pictures and all that. and really it is, but only bcause it ways the same as giganotosaurus nut is still longer, so i quess i was right, a little tongue.gif
draconic chronicler
QUOTE(speshall mareens @ Jan 27 2007, 09:28 AM) [snapback]1518308[/snapback]
just cause i like spongebob! tongue.gif just kidding. no, I recently read an article (last night) that said that spinosaurus was the largest, showed scale pictures and all that. and really it is, but only bcause it ways the same as giganotosaurus nut is still longer, so i quess i was right, a little tongue.gif


How are you right, "even a little"? The weights most be largely speculation though I agree Spino may not be as bulky. But even this is not confirmed because of the rarity of the fossils. But it is a fact that the latest Spino skull is the largest carnosaur skull ever found, and the complete animal may have been over sixty feet. Large males of many reptile species really bulk out once they are full adults. Right now, ALL of the scientific evidence says Spino is the biggest, but I agree a new, bigger theropod could be found tomorrow.

But with most "conventional Theropods hovering around 45 feet, I feel that's pretty much the largest they commonly grow. Spino is a very different animal, and may grow bigger because it has characteristics that suggest it was largely situated around the water, like crocodiles. Spino and Charco may have coexisted because they occupied different ecological niches. Though like a crocodile, Spino still could have hunted far from water, but water may have been a preferred habitat.
speshall mareens
QUOTE(draconic chronicler @ Jan 28 2007, 08:51 AM) [snapback]1519602[/snapback]
How are you right, "even a little"? The weights most be largely speculation though I agree Spino may not be as bulky.

there weight is estimated as the same, so i was sorta right, but like i said only by a little, your right that spino is longer and thats how its bigger, actually, now that i think about it, i was wrong tongue.gif
cheo_vl
QUOTE(draconic chronicler @ Jan 27 2007, 12:48 PM) [snapback]1518163[/snapback]
The latest Spinosaur also has the largest skull of any Carnosaur, over six feet long. It is a third larger than Giganotosaurus. Are you getting this stuff from cartoons, or what? Yes a larger carnivorous dinosaur may be found, but NOTHING else comes close to the latest spino. And the original spino, destroyed in Berlin and still larger than any of the rest, was only a Juvenile as the bones revealed!




just because one skull was 6 feet long doesn't mean that they all were, we'd have to wait until we find more and besides, the first skull of carcharodontosaurus ever found was also about six feet tall and we know now that giganotosaurus was bigger that carchar
speshall mareens
you mean long? spinos was 6 feet long
frogfish
Saurophaganax rolleyes.gif
speshall mareens
yes, yes we know that by now rolleyes.gif
laveticus666
QUOTE(king of dino @ May 10 2006, 02:35 AM) [snapback]1182218[/snapback]
Spino Was Not Bigger And you Dont Count the Spine Gigano Is Still The lagest Killer on Land Sadly Its Brain was that the Size of a Banana and spino was only Thort Big coz of the Dumb JP3 moive Everyone Knows how un Real they all are


Its Really Hard To Read When You Capital almost Every Letter At The Begining Of A Word.
speshall mareens
i don't even capitalize at the beggining of a sentence!
DigitalDreamer
Mapo would win,If that stupid giganto messed with one it messed with alot more since mapo was a pack hunter.Gignatosaurus would have been mauled and killed by the pack of maposaurus because giganto didnt know how to fight.
Dino_crazy_man
is sophia the forum police...geez girl lossen up...
sorry so late the this rip.. but i could'nt resist...
DINOS RULE
DigitalDreamer
[quote name='draconic chronicler' date='Jan 26 2007, 09:23 PM' post='1517454'
Spino is now the king. Jurassic park III was ahead of its time.
[/quote]

You make me lauph,This is typically what a huge spino fanboy would say.Spino will never be a king,It wont even be a prince the best it will ever be is the scum on the bottom of a beggers shoe.You could say i am a t-rex fanboy or somebody who hates when people godzillafie an overrated dinosaur.By the way when you say "Jurassic park III was ahead of its time" and it means it sucked and portrayed a movie monster chase humans and go way out of its way to kill them and somehow someway escaped the jaws of a t-rex and used its claws in a fight then yes jurassic park 3 was WAY ahead of its time rolleyes.gif
robbieb
u know who would win in a fight with these dinos me with a barrett yea a depleted uranium bullet could flip a hummer yea i want one of those



yes i know this post seems pointless but it realy isnt becuase just as unlikely it is for me to get a sniper rilfe like gun that shoots 50calabier bullets made of depleted uranium at a dino its just as unlikely we could ever tell who would beat who in the dino world we can only guess and espicaly when we dont even have full skeleton and im willing to bet the largest meat eating dino is not even discovered yet and probly never will be
draconic chronicler
QUOTE(DigitalDreamer @ May 13 2007, 09:40 PM) [snapback]1673730[/snapback]
[quote name='draconic chronicler' date='Jan 26 2007, 09:23 PM' post='1517454'
Spino is now the king. Jurassic park III was ahead of its time.
You make me lauph,This is typically what a huge spino fanboy would say.Spino will never be a king,It wont even be a prince the best it will ever be is the scum on the bottom of a beggers shoe.You could say i am a t-rex fanboy or somebody who hates when people godzillafie an overrated dinosaur.By the way when you say "Jurassic park III was ahead of its time" and it means it sucked and portrayed a movie monster chase humans and go way out of its way to kill them and somehow someway escaped the jaws of a t-rex and used its claws in a fight then yes jurassic park 3 was WAY ahead of its time rolleyes.gif


Truthfully now, are you over 13 years old?

Every real, scientific source now states Spino is the largests carnivorous dino, and it is an amazing ONE THIRD LARGER than it's next largest rival. This has nothing to do with fanboys, it is scientific evidence.

And it is probably not a fluke, giant specimen. The original Berlin spino was estimated close to 50 feet and it was a JUVENILE!

And now, the only other spino that was ever found was probably over 60 feet long with the largest skull of any carnivorous dino.

But little kids can make believe anything they want, right, digi?
DigitalDreamer
Truthfully now, are you still mad because your ass was totally pwned?

Ill take that as a yes,By the way i think your the little kid becuase your scared to admit when your wrong.Oh thats ok,Your mommy will be here any minute with your baby formula.Seriously you are a fan boy saying jp3 was way ahead of its time,If you were as mature as your ego is large than you would know that you cant stand it when your wrong.Really your makeing a fool of your self,Scratch that your makeing an even bigger fool of yourself.So wipe away your tears and forget about it because nobody wants to hear you complain or try to make a good comeback.
draconic chronicler
QUOTE(DigitalDreamer @ May 16 2007, 01:32 PM) [snapback]1678312[/snapback]
Truthfully now, are you still mad because your ass was totally pwned?

Ill take that as a yes,By the way i think your the little kid becuase your scared to admit when your wrong.Oh thats ok,Your mommy will be here any minute with your baby formula.Seriously you are a fan boy saying jp3 was way ahead of its time,If you were as mature as your ego is large than you would know that you cant stand it when your wrong.Really your makeing a fool of your self,Scratch that your makeing an even bigger fool of yourself.So wipe away your tears and forget about it because nobody wants to hear you complain or try to make a good comeback.


So tell me what I said was "wrong". All the facts are on my side little boy. You'd discover I'm right, if you watched less cartoons and more Science Channel. In fact, there was a good program on Spino just a few nights ago. Maybe your mom blocks that channel due to the violence of nature shows.
frogfish
DC, you're forgeting about Saurophaganax! tongue.gif
DigitalDreamer
QUOTE(draconic chronicler @ May 16 2007, 08:32 PM) [snapback]1678866[/snapback]
So tell me what I said was "wrong". All the facts are on my side little boy. You'd discover I'm right, if you watched less cartoons and more Science Channel. In fact, there was a good program on Spino just a few nights ago. Maybe your mom blocks that channel due to the violence of nature shows.



Aww it looks like this kid cant read yet,Let me dumb it down for you......YOU NO TRY TO MAKE SMART TALK OR ELSE YOU WILL LOOK MORE STUPID-ER,Maybe that will help you kid.Or maybe you should call your mom in to read you the pretty screen sas,The only good program of a spino is when it sas that its an overrated pathetic dinosaur that couldnt kill anything that wasnt in water and didnt have gills.By the way,You claim to know alot about dinosaurs and yet you dont because you havnt replied in T rex might still claim the title back because you know that you were wrong about evrything you said and thats why your scared to say that your wrong because your just a f***** little boy who has no idea that hes a pathetic human being and should go to a kids website were people wont mind childish antics such as claiming that your right trying to make good come backs and acting like your older than you really are.Oh whats that i hear?Its the sound of nobody careingw hat you say because what ever comes out of your mouth is pure and all natural B.S.
draconic chronicler
Okay moderators, so when is somebody going to shut that foul mouthed little brat down. He doesn't know anything about these subjects and cannot behave in a civil manner.
robbieb
QUOTE(frogfish @ May 17 2007, 01:18 AM) [snapback]1678914[/snapback]
DC, you're forgeting about Saurophaganax! tongue.gif


idont think we can even consider him until we have more bones on him i mean we mostly have vetebrae and thats not enough to decide if hes bigger or not
DigitalDreamer
QUOTE(draconic chronicler @ May 17 2007, 10:08 PM) [snapback]1680608[/snapback]
Okay moderators, so when is somebody going to shut that foul mouthed little brat down. He doesn't know anything about these subjects and cannot behave in a civil manner.



Oh please little boy,Shut up allready and stop complaining.Your the only brat here because you know your wrong and your not smart enough to know so,I swear my 7 year old nephew knows more about dinosaurs than you.Seriously if you want people to listen to you babble on and on about nothing than go on jerry springer,You claim to know alot about dinosaurs but you dont and you still havnt replied in the t-rex might claim its title back because you know the my friend coramont corrected you on evrything YOU said was right.So stop trying to be somthing your not,And that something is knowing alot about dinosaurs.
robbieb
both of u need to chill ur taking personal shots at eachother ur talking aobut which dino could win a fight against who i think this is gonna turn into a my dad could beat up your dad thing relax state facts that are backed by sources to state ur claims dont just say the other person is wrong and stupid because of it now behave
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