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Cinders
This is an interesting episode called:
user posted image

(The Text info. below is what the show is about from the History Channel)

Alien Engineering, Part 1
Aired on Monday, May 8th, 8PM and Tuesday, May 9 at 12:00am ET

Prepare for an exercise in imagination. Suppose that an alien spacecraft crashed in the desert and we humans recovered it. What could we learn from its engineers? Using data gleaned from years of UFO sightings, we recreate a typical ship using cutting-edge animation, discover why aliens choose the craft shapes they do, learn how they overcome the effects of Earth's atmosphere, defy gravity, cancel inertia, and travel faster than the speed of light! Our experts--reverse engineers--show us what's "under the hood" of alien craft. We explore the technology that makes other-world visitations possible, what distance-shrinking device or wormhole excavator permits ships to travel space's expanse in minutes, and how the semi-transparent spacecraft skin functions. At first inspection, the technology seems crazy, but according to our experts, nothing is beyond the realm of possibility. TVPG

See "Preview" of this here:
http://www.zippyvideos.com/682853095508858..._part1_preview/

Download Part 1 here (55 megs, over 21 minutes, wmv format)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/4ubza2

Download Part 2 here (59 megs, over 23 minutes, wmv format)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/52f4tr

Edit>> I just have to add this comment.. in the part 2 download of this vid, about 2 minutes into it, there's a part where two guys are "re-enacting" seeing a UFO. The scenario just cracked me up! LOL And the bit about what they do to the frog looks funny, but I also feel sorry for the poor thing!

Anyway, they will be playing:
Alien Engineering, Part 2
Airs on Monday, May 22 at 8:00pm ET (I will work on getting that one shared as well after I get it recorded.)
Alien_Nation
Its dissipointing that you have gone to so much effort and out of 160 people that have viewed this so far, not one said thanks

Well a big thanks from me. original.gif

Please keep them comming they have been keeping me entertained for hours. original.gif

Keep up the good work.

Ohh and this one was really good.
Captain Rachael
I second that Alien_Nation!
Thankyou Cinders!
Cinders
^^ You guys are very welcome! I'm glad to read someone noticed this video.
I think that alot of "guests" view this forum and that might be why there are so many views and no comments.

I found this "Alien Engineering Part 1" more interesting than I thought. Can't wait to watch "Alien Engineering Part 2" on May 22nd.

In the meantime, I hope to have another episode done from this channel up by tomorrow sometime.

The upcoming show will be about:

Out of This World
Airs on Wednesday, May 10 at 5:00pm ET

Are we alone in the universe? Is the earth on the brink of a cosmic catastrophe? Do aliens really exist? And if they do, how do they get here? Long before man landed on the moon, people have been asking these and other questions that are out of this world. Perhaps clues to some of these questions lie in understanding the behavior of asteroids, life on Mars, and secrets that our government may hold about UFOs and Roswell

Captain Rachael
You have 666 posts! ohmy.gif

tongue.gif hehe
Cinders
QUOTE(Piracy Is The Game @ May 10 2006, 05:58 AM) [snapback]1182569[/snapback]

You have 666 posts! ohmy.gif

tongue.gif hehe


OMG!!! Gotta' fix that right now! LOL LOL
Reepa
Good post thumbsup.gif
Carl Butters
QUOTE(Cinders @ May 10 2006, 07:51 AM) [snapback]1182562[/snapback]

^^ You guys are very welcome! I'm glad to read someone noticed this video.
I think that alot of "guests" view this forum and that might be why there are so many views and no comments.

I found this "Alien Engineering Part 1" more interesting than I thought. Can't wait to watch "Alien Engineering Part 2" on May 22nd.

In the meantime, I hope to have another episode done from this channel up by tomorrow sometime.




yes gj cinders thumbsup.gif haha i can never watch your videos because my connection sux crying.gif

but i did see this on the history channel the other night, and im impressed that scientists are actually trying to understand, if ufos exist, how do they exist? i think this video is an absolute must see wink2.gif

and i do really appreciate the fact that you put the time and effort in getting information out for people to view. this subject is so often over looked by the mainstream. there should be some kind of award for people like you w00t.gif thumbsup.gif


Stardrive
Actually this program has already been aired once on the History Channel. I was fortunate enough to catch it the first time it aired a couple months ago. I watched it again this past Monday, and will watch part II on the 22nd. Very interesting indeed. Thanks for the reminder !!
EyE oF tHe StOrm
Keep um' coming Cinders!! Fascinating stuff! And I'm glad too that scientist are actually trying to prove they exist. Awesome stuff! Can't wait to see the next one!
isis-999
I'm not sure i believe all this..But you did a great job getting this post up with good facts to support what you said..... thumbsup.gif
Cinders
QUOTE(Carl Butters @ May 10 2006, 03:46 PM) [snapback]1183393[/snapback]

yes gj cinders thumbsup.gif haha i can never watch your videos because my connection sux crying.gif

but i did see this on the history channel the other night, and im impressed that scientists are actually trying to understand, if ufos exist, how do they exist? i think this video is an absolute must see wink2.gif

and i do really appreciate the fact that you put the time and effort in getting information out for people to view. this subject is so often over looked by the mainstream. there should be some kind of award for people like you w00t.gif thumbsup.gif


Carl, are you on Dial up?
I've converted and split these sort of files to a reasonable wmv file and size especially because I know many are on dial up. That's why I don't convert them to a higher quality mpg file etc.

Should I convert them to a lower quality wmv and/ or should I split the file in 3 parts?

I wanted to make this available for those on dial up as well. That's why I don't upload the whole thing as one file somewhere, and I don't make a huge PREVIEW file.
I thought the size and format I used would have been ok.

Let me know of any suggestions. I will be working on that "Out of This World" UFO Files episode soon.

The Silver Thong
Damn I can't watch them right now I'm at work but when I get home tonight I most deffinitly will be taking a look. Thanks for the post and ya keepem comming. Good job
isis-999
They are worth the time to watch ST... thumbsup.gif
Spunned
Nice dude..!

Thanks for sharing!
^SolidSnake^
Wow that documentary got me thinking, I used to always think about that stuff. I think it may be possible that at the speed of light time stops...maybe if you go faster than the speed of light you could go back in time.
Carl Butters
QUOTE(Cinders @ May 11 2006, 03:32 PM) [snapback]1184662[/snapback]

Carl, are you on Dial up?
I've converted and split these sort of files to a reasonable wmv file and size especially because I know many are on dial up. That's why I don't convert them to a higher quality mpg file etc.

Should I convert them to a lower quality wmv and/ or should I split the file in 3 parts?

I wanted to make this available for those on dial up as well. That's why I don't upload the whole thing as one file somewhere, and I don't make a huge PREVIEW file.
I thought the size and format I used would have been ok.

Let me know of any suggestions. I will be working on that "Out of This World" UFO Files episode soon.



haha ya im on dial blush.gif to be honest , due to that fact alone ive never even tried to dl the movies. however, after this post, im a give it a go tonight and see if it works out. once again thanx cinders original.gif
Stellar
QUOTE

Wow that documentary got me thinking, I used to always think about that stuff. I think it may be possible that at the speed of light time stops...maybe if you go faster than the speed of light you could go back in time.


I dont understand how it could be possible for time to stop at a certain speed. Its a mathematical contradiction as I see it. Speed is calculated by distance divided by time... Distance is calculated by speed times time....
ex infernis
QUOTE(Cinders @ May 9 2006, 11:28 AM) [snapback]1181401[/snapback]

This is an interesting episode called:
user posted image

(The Text info. below is what the show is about from the History Channel)

Alien Engineering, Part 1
Aired on Monday, May 8th, 8PM and Tuesday, May 9 at 12:00am ET

Prepare for an exercise in imagination. Suppose that an alien spacecraft crashed in the desert and we humans recovered it. What could we learn from its engineers? Using data gleaned from years of UFO sightings, we recreate a typical ship using cutting-edge animation, discover why aliens choose the craft shapes they do, learn how they overcome the effects of Earth's atmosphere, defy gravity, cancel inertia, and travel faster than the speed of light! Our experts--reverse engineers--show us what's "under the hood" of alien craft. We explore the technology that makes other-world visitations possible, what distance-shrinking device or wormhole excavator permits ships to travel space's expanse in minutes, and how the semi-transparent spacecraft skin functions. At first inspection, the technology seems crazy, but according to our experts, nothing is beyond the realm of possibility. TVPG

See "Preview" of this here:
http://www.zippyvideos.com/682853095508858..._part1_preview/

Download Part 1 here (55 megs, over 21 minutes, wmv format)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/4ubza2

Download Part 2 here (59 megs, over 23 minutes, wmv format)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/52f4tr

Edit>> I just have to add this comment.. in the part 2 download of this vid, about 2 minutes into it, there's a part where two guys are "re-enacting" seeing a UFO. The scenario just cracked me up! LOL And the bit about what they do to the frog looks funny, but I also feel sorry for the poor thing!

Anyway, they will be playing:
Alien Engineering, Part 2
Airs on Monday, May 22 at 8:00pm ET (I will work on getting that one shared as well after I get it recorded.)

I saw these shows in march hmm.gif
Cinders
QUOTE(pyrokinetic_1 @ May 11 2006, 09:10 PM) [snapback]1185292[/snapback]

I saw these shows in march hmm.gif


Well, Yea, YOU might have seen this back in MARCH , but others that do NOT have this channel, AROUND the WORLD is WHY I make these available. In fact, I even missed this episode BACK in March (as I will often miss some of these episodes) because I have 2.5 year old twin boys and I rarely have time to watch TV.

So, I've been working these vids up as they come on. I do NOT repeat or post a show again if I've already shared it on this forum. Others that have missed an episode that I may have posted in the past on this forum, can do a SEARCH and find my posts of which 98% are about shared vids that I've worked up.

So should I NOT share these just because some of us have this channel and/ or have already seen it?

Nahhh.. I look at the BIGGER picture than just things for "me". Although I have many of these already recorded on DVD, or have already seen them, I think about others that have not seen these. And I will continue to share these as I get them whether some peeps have already seen an episode, or have this channel.

I think it's cool to share... don't you? yes.gif

SAMURAI-X
yea i also have seen this before but think it is a good idea to post so everyone can see it, the episode also made me wonder if ufo's even exist, they would have to be years and years more advanced than us, i know the universe is old but the stuff you need seem a little beyond belief, i am a believer but that puts a lot of thoughts in my head. wacko.gif
Spunned
*watching... comments later*
Osias
Very interesting !
Nerve_Agents
Thanks for sharing this. I will have a look at it when I get home tonight.
SunStar74

today is the day for 2nd part -> somebody ups it ?


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Carl Butters
QUOTE(Stellar @ May 11 2006, 10:26 PM) [snapback]1185245[/snapback]

I dont understand how it could be possible for time to stop at a certain speed. Its a mathematical contradiction as I see it. Speed is calculated by distance divided by time... Distance is calculated by speed times time....



you are right stellar. time doesnt stop, ever. however, relativity says that your inertial reference frame would be relative to other frames of reference. for instance, if you were traveling near the speed of light, since you are traveling sooooo fast, everything else, if you could see it, would look like its motionless, because to you, everything would be moving verryyyyy slowly. even though, in your reference frame, everything seems to be normal. so if you were inside a box, everything inside that box would be normal, yet everything outside the box would appear to be motionless. of course, things arent motionless, but due to your enourmous speeds it would appear that way. its all relative. thumbsup.gif

good point stellar happy.gif
Carl Butters
QUOTE(SunStar74 @ May 22 2006, 12:45 PM) [snapback]1200799[/snapback]

today is the day for 2nd part -> somebody ups it ?


alien.gif thumbsup.gif



watched it last night, and it was awesome!! thumbsup.gif i gotta hand it to cinders, i might not have even bothered to watch tv or pay attention to what was on if cinders hadn't brought it up. w00t.gif

cinders cool.gif wub.gif
Stellar
QUOTE

you are right stellar. time doesnt stop, ever. however, relativity says that your inertial reference frame would be relative to other frames of reference. for instance, if you were traveling near the speed of light, since you are traveling sooooo fast, everything else, if you could see it, would look like its motionless, because to you, everything would be moving verryyyyy slowly. even though, in your reference frame, everything seems to be normal. so if you were inside a box, everything inside that box would be normal, yet everything outside the box would appear to be motionless. of course, things arent motionless, but due to your enourmous speeds it would appear that way. its all relative.


Which brings me to my next point. So... say the person is travelling at the speed of light, 300 000 000 m/s, meaning for every second passed, the person travels a distance of 300 000 000 m. Relative to who though? If time goes by slower for him, then what external observers percieve to be 1 second would be for him, say, 0.1 s... meaning that in reference to him, he traveled 300 000 000 m in 0.1s, so 3 000 000 000 m/s which effectively puts him at a speed faster than light.
Carl Butters
QUOTE(Osias @ May 15 2006, 12:05 AM) [snapback]1189128[/snapback]

Very interesting !



indeed! i personally believe this is one of the main elements of the ufo enigma that has gone unnoticed by science for too long. how can WE do this?

i applaud the gentlemen in the show, for their courage, imagination, and devotion to the future betterment of humankind thumbsup.gif they are beacons of shining light in the perpetual night sky of dogma. i hope that other professionals will find an interest in this enigma and use their keen intellects and profound knowledge of science to make some of these elements come to pass thumbsup.gif once again, my hope for humanity is rekindled w00t.gif
Carl Butters
QUOTE(Stellar @ May 23 2006, 07:54 PM) [snapback]1202754[/snapback]

Which brings me to my next point. So... say the person is travelling at the speed of light, 300 000 000 m/s, meaning for every second passed, the person travels a distance of 300 000 000 m. Relative to who though? If time goes by slower for him, then what external observers percieve to be 1 second would be for him, say, 0.1 s... meaning that in reference to him, he traveled 300 000 000 m in 0.1s, so 3 000 000 000 m/s which effectively puts him at a speed faster than light.



lol i had this long drug out blah blah blah post and then realised what you were ACTUALLY saying. blush.gif

so you are saying , let me clarify so that i understand this, that since the dilation of time for the person traveling at the speed of light is greater than that of the person observing him, that that would put him over the speed of light?

once again, for clarification,

the time traveled by the person A(speed of light) with reference to person B(stationary) would be 1 second, and he would have traveled 300 000 m. from the view of A , it would have taken less than a second, because of the dilation of time, therefore he would be traveling faster than the speed of light?

time dilation is a result of traveling at enourmous speeds. if one were traveling near the speed of light, ones time dilation would be much , much greater than that of an observer. this does not mean , however, that they are traveling faster than the speed of light, because how could they be? if they ARE traveling at the speed of light, then A = A. time dilation occurs because of the relativity between stationary and moving objects. person A is traveling at enormous speeds, so inside(key) of this frame of reference , he would appear to age more slowly than B. so when he comes to a stop, he would have aged slower than person B.

these are all technical issues when one takes the limit to c in certain physics equations. concerning the kinemetics equations, and the conservation of energy......

from "Relativity The Special and General Theory" by Albert Einstein:

"by the expression mc^2/(sqrt(1-(v^2/c^2))) : This expression approaches infinity as the velocity v approaches the velocity of light c. The velocity must therefore always remain less than c*, however great may be the energies used to produce the acceleration. If we develop the expression for the kinetic engergy in the form of a series, we obtain...."

*take the limit of the equation as v approaches c. it then becomes mc^2/(sqrt(1-c^2/c^2) = mc^2/(sqrt(1-1)). which then equals mc^2/sqrt(0). a/o =undefined.

"the first and fourth equations of the loretz transformation give these two ticks(clock): t = 0
and t = 1/sqrt(1-(v^2/c^2)). As judged from K the clock is moving with the velocity v;as judged from this reference body, the time with elapses between two strokes of the clock is not one second, but 1/sqrt(1-(v^2/c^2)) seconds, i.e. a somewhat larger time. AS is a consequence of its motion the closck goes more slowly than when at rest. Here also velocity c plays the part of an unattainable limiting velocity."

so in conclusion, that that is within the reference frame experiences the dilation of time, while that out of it does not(or much less). C remains a constant in all reference frames, thereby making it a sort of "speed limit" as described by the transformation of equations above. even when time dilation occurs within a reference frame, one is still traveling at the limit of C, the speed of light*. C is the same in all reference frames.

*even if you turned on the headlights in your box that is already traveling at the speed of light, the light emitted will also travel at the speed of light, and not the intuitive speed of twice that much.
Phowl
Great post, thanks for sharing.
Cinders
QUOTE(SunStar74 @ May 22 2006, 10:45 AM) [snapback]1200799[/snapback]

today is the day for 2nd part -> somebody ups it ?


alien.gif thumbsup.gif


I am working on it.. I am so sorry for the major delay.
Long story as to why - but just know that it's been due to a "domestic" issue around the home front here.. *sigh*

BUT I am working on "Alien Engineering PART 2" to be posted next ASAP, as well as 3 other UFO files shows that have been on.

I hope to have all of these posted up sometime this week for us.
Stellar
QUOTE

time dilation is a result of traveling at enourmous speeds. if one were traveling near the speed of light, ones time dilation would be much , much greater than that of an observer. this does not mean , however, that they are traveling faster than the speed of light, because how could they be? if they ARE traveling at the speed of light, then A = A.


Thats where the confusion starts. If person A is experiencing time more slowely than person B, then if person B see's person A travel 300 000 000 m in 1 second, person A felt say, 0.1 seconds go by, no?

QUOTE


*take the limit of the equation as v approaches c. it then becomes mc^2/(sqrt(1-c^2/c^2) = mc^2/(sqrt(1-1)). which then equals mc^2/sqrt(0). a/o =undefined


Well, it doesnt have to be at the speed of light, I was just using that as an example. We can say that person A is traveling 99.9% the speed of light if you want.


yunparnlee
Any one is interested in the Alien spaceship propulsion system ,
should read the following web sites. Heim Theory is a good start
point to learn the new physics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heim-theory

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burkhard_Heim
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antigravity
http://news.scotsman.com/scitech.cfm?id=16902006 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...in_page_id=1770
Cinders
Per a PM request, I've re-uploaded this episode

Links are still active- BUT they will be deleted after 7 days of NO ACTIVITY. So grab them when you can if you would like these

Name: Alien_Engineering_Part1_part1.wmv
Size: 54MB
Description: Alien_Engineering_Part1_part1

The download link is: http://www.sendspace.com/file/zrn5iv

Name: Alien_Engineering_Part1_part2.wmv
Size: 58MB
Description: Alien_Engineering_Part1_part2

The download link is: http://www.sendspace.com/file/1z1mix

See other thread for Alien Engineering Part 2
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...t&p=1399050
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