QUOTE(Smelly_Cryptozoologist @ May 10 2006, 05:12 PM) [snapback]1183328[/snapback]
Satan has been getting a bad rap, there si no evdence i know of stating that satan really killed anyone, for all we know he is but the lord of hell. He brang truth to adam and eve by showing them that there was a world outside (your living in a dreamworld neo) God on the other hand condemned adam and eve to mortal life, thereby commiting the first muder.
does anyone share my thoughs or am i just a sad long haired aussie looking for a nicer god?
+
=
Sounds like you've been bathing in the light of Lucifer. He's a good liar and he hates you.
Some New Age leaders believe that the Fall (in garden of eden) was really man's ascent into knowledge, assisted by Lucifer - whom they hail as the bringer of light and wisdom. These New Age teachers expect an imminent, apocalyptic transformation that will lead humanity into the New Age. By acts of men or by an act of "spirit," earth will be cleansed of those who refuse to evolve. In the New Age, there will be world government; the economy will be remade to Promote "sharing." Traditional morality and traditional families will disappear. Orthodox religions - especially Christianity and Judaism - are considered "separative" and "obsolete"; in the New Age, they too will vanish.
Theosophists make it clear that in the contest between God and the Devil, they side with the Devil. Blavatsky says, "It is but natural ... to view Satan, the Serpent of Genesis, as the real creator and benefactor, the Father of Spiritual mankind.
For it is he who was the 'Harbinger of Light,' bright radiant Lucifer, who opened the eyes of the automaton created by Jehovah."[50] According to Alice Bailey, the revolt of the angels against God was part of "the divine plan of evolution;" the fallen angels "descended from their sinless and free state of existence in order to develop full divine awareness upon earth."[51] Spangler, like Blavatsky, praises Lucifer as "the angel of man's evolution. He is the angel of man's inner light."[52] He says that "Lucifer comes to give us the final gift of wholeness,"[53] and "as we move into a new age", "each of us in some way is brought to that point which I term the Luciferic initiation."[54] Spangler sees this as "an initiation into the New Age.
It is an initiation of leaving the past and moving into the new, shedding our guilts and fears ... and becoming whole and at peace because we have recognized our inner light and ... the light of God."Spangler says, "Christ is the perfect balance to Lucifer."[62] Like Matthew Fox, Spangler proposes to replace Jesus with the "cosmic Christ;" "any old Christ will not do, not if we need to show that we have something better than the mainstream Christian traditions. It must be a cosmic Christ, a universal Christ, a New Age Christ. ... The Christ is universal. It is cosmic.
With the New Religion, there will be spiritual totalitarianism. New Age leaders agree that the last 2,000 years - the Age of Pisces - were a time for development of individual identity and personality.
According to occult thought, the Piscean Age has as its foundation the male-centered energies that characterize Christianity. The Aquarian Age, on the other hand, is an attempt to bring balance back into the evolutionary process by introducing female energies into our understanding. Those who have embraced this new-age understanding of humanity believe that all of the problems that man faces are a direct result of Christianity and its perceived male- centered belief system. Therefore, a change in man's thinking must occur to bring about a more equal system that will allow feminine energies to govern humanity.
This female-centered system will be based on intuition and experience rather than logic and rational thought, the latter being seen as male characteristics. In the coming Age of Aquarius, this will change. People will happily let go of individualism and merge their own goals and identity into that of the whole race. As Alice Bailey said, "Selfishness, as we now understand it, will gradually disappear, for the will of the individual will voluntarily be blended into the group will."[
The New Age avatars proclaim their commitment to democracy and tolerance. However, they propose totalitarian solutions to mankind's urgent, undeniable problems. The sacrifice of freedom and the acceptance of unlimited government power will - as always - be for our own good; necessity will be the excuse of tyrants. The New Age movement uses the theory of evolution - a theory of inevitable and desirable Progress - as a justification for whatever policies are needed to drive humanity and the planet to the next great leap upward. (Can anything good ever come from applying Darwinism to society?)
Alice Bailey and her followers at the Lucis Trust have repeatedly praised revolutions and dictatorships, approving them as part of the workings of "the Plan." She viewed the
dictatorships of her time as a positive part of human evolution, fostering humanity's "power to regard himself as part of a whole.After all, according to Walsch's incubus, Hitler was doing his victims a favor by killing them; his deeds were "mistakes," not crimes: "The mistakes Hitler made did no harm or damage to those whose deaths he caused. Those souls were released from their earthly bondage, like butterflies emerging from a cocoon.
"Birth itself is a death, and death a birth. For in birth, the soul finds itself constricted within the awful limitations of a body, and at death escapes those constrictions again." This is, almost word for word, what Alice Bailey wrote: "Birth establishes the soul in the true prison, and physical death is only the first step toward liberation."
When you see the utter perfection in everything - not just in those things with which you agree, but (and perhaps especially) those things with which you disagree - you achieve mastery."
The price of "mastery" is to see "utter perfection" in Auschwitz and Treblinka. "John," the disembodied spirit which Spangler has channeled for over 20 years, likewise said, "We naturally do not identify life with the physical body, consequently, to us, the loss of your physical form is not a tragedy....
The death of millions of people in itself is not a tragedy for us, for it simply means their birth into our domains."
Walsch's "God" says that
Hitler does not deserve blame for his acts - the rest of humanity is responsible for allowing them to happen: "The purpose of the Hitler Experience was to show humanity to itself."
"Blame not the personalities involved.... They are only the product of the past and the victims of the present.
At the same time, they are the agents of destiny, the creators of the new order and the initiators of the new civilisation; they are the destroyers of what must be destroyed before humanity can go forward along the Lighted Way. They are the embodiment of the personality of humanity. Blame yourselves, therefore, for what is today transpiring."
Nevertheless, these radical New Age leaders believe that the two World Wars were necessary for human evolution, and that the birth pangs of the New Age began with the atomic explosions in 1945. They also advocate sending those people who are unwilling to enter the New Age into oblivion, and reducing world population to 2 billion - or less. Such is the blood lust of the "compassionate."
"Nature is less concerned about individual survival, than with the evolution of the whole to ever higher degrees of freedom, union, and consciousness of God."
From the start of World War II until her death in 1949, Alice Bailey wrote that the
war was necessary for the New Age to come. She believed that the New Age would be preceded by a "destructive cycle, wherein the old order passes away" and "human civilization with its accompanying institutions - is destroyed."[202] She gives credit to the
"Hierarchy" of ascended spiritual masters for "their decision, taken early in this century, which precipitated ... that major destructive agency, the world war (1914-1945). (The hierarchy is the Illuminati)"This is a time of preparation not only for a new civilisation and culture in a new world order, but also for the coming of a new spiritual dispensation.
Humanity is not following an uncharted course. There is a divine Plan in the Cosmos of which we are a part. At the end of an age human resources and established institutions seem inadequate to meet world needs and problems. At such a time the advent of a Teacher, a spiritual leader or Avatar, is anticipated and invoked by the masses of humanity in all parts of the world.
If evil always appeared as evil, the enticement to evil works would not be as easily "sold" to an unsuspecting population.
However, if the plan of Lucifer was "sold" as a plan to develop a human community by establishing unity in diversity, how much more successful could this plan become? Furthermore, if one were aspire to create globalistic unity in diversity, what strategy would serve to unify those of diverse backgrounds, religions, and cultures? The solution to this question is really quite simple (the implementation of the solution is not so simple, but the solution itself is very simple): seek common ground among the diverse and cultivate it. Once common ground is found, build upon this common ground with a system of common values, and thus establish unity. Once common values are established, those whose values are in opposition to the majority must be changed (or else).
These are excerpts from various articles
http://www.mdep.org/NewAgeComplete.htmlhttp://www.cuttingedge.org/news_updates/newsupdatemain.html
, 
what i am saying is you have to people living across the street from you
There is NOT ONE SINGLE person here not even the likes of YOU knows what God is truly like so get over yourself 
