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true
I'm going to start by saying that this is the first time in 35 years that I have come out of the closet so to speak. A friend and myself just possibly might have seen an alien space craft that maybe one in a billion people have witnessed first hand. The reason that I am posting now is a deep compulsion within me to find out if there are others who have experienced the same, and also to try and find the friend who was with me the night of the sighting as it has been so long since I first encountered it. That being said i will attempt to describe what i saw. We were on a military base that was a strategic air defense command center it was on a cold night in february on a saturday about 12:15 am we were walking back to our billets on very clear night when a large puffy like cloud formation developed and came from out of nowhere, we looked up and saw a disk shaped craft zoom out of the clouds and stopped abruptly(almost on a dime) directly over the underground crypto center, when beams of lights rectangular in shape which had the colors of white,red orange, and blue with spaces between each color descend down towards the crypto center which had multi-story levels built of very thick concrete and thick steel, the beam lights on the craft were very bright,came from beneath in center of the craft and traveled in sequence with the colors staying in line going straight down at a slow rate of descent, the beam of lights seemed to be penetrating the center of the building then the lights came back out still in sequence at about a 45 degree angle from the initial penetration it went up about a third of the way towards the space craft and then disapeared, this went on for about 5-6 minutes I think, then the lights all went out ,the craft assended back into the cloud formation turned into a 45 degree bank and shot off in a blink of an eye, the cloud formation was gone also. We were about 200 feet from it at the fence and it was 100-200 ft. above us. We were not scared, or even nervous but felt very calm and different in ways that I can not explain. I will not go into detail as to how and what we were told after reporting this to our superiors. I hope also that Jerry is looking for me as i have this compelling desire to talk with him. I really do not care if you think I am making this up or think that we were hallucinating---we were not, and we didn't take drugs, this is the truth the whole truth.

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IronGhost
Very interesting story.

Your account is not unlike many other reported UFO sightings. Have you read a lot of other UFO books?

What I'm trying to say is -- don't feel like you're nuts. A lot of other good, honest and intelligent people had similar experiences, and they weren't taking drugs either.

novaceleste
True, let me start by saying welcome to UM! original.gif

I think your story is very intresting. I myself have not had a UFO experience. YET! I keep hoping. Maybe one day.....
true
IronGhost,

Thanks for your input, I guess the real reason that I've just started posting on forums is because I'm hoping that I'll be able to locate the friend who witnessed the space craft with me. I have a very strong compelling desire to locate him after all this time. IronGhost, I have not read any books about alien space craft. Yes, I do realize it sounds wierd, but it's true.


true
true
novaceleste,


Thanks for the welcome !


true
greywolf
sounds like it really left an impression on you.hope you find your friend.
Caana
QUOTE(true @ May 11 2006, 04:40 PM) [snapback]1184382[/snapback]

I'm going to start by saying that this is the first time in 35 years that I have come out of the closet so to speak. A friend and myself just possibly might have seen an alien space craft that maybe one in a billion people have witnessed first hand. The reason that I am posting now is a deep compulsion within me to find out if there are others who have experienced the same, and also to try and find the friend who was with me the night of the sighting as it has been so long since I first encountered it. That being said i will attempt to describe what i saw. We were on a military base that was a strategic air defense command center it was on a cold night in february on a saturday about 12:15 am we were walking back to our billets on very clear night when a large puffy like cloud formation developed and came from out of nowhere, we looked up and saw a disk shaped craft zoom out of the clouds and stopped abruptly(almost on a dime) directly over the underground crypto center, when beams of lights rectangular in shape which had the colors of white,red orange, and blue with spaces between each color descend down towards the crypto center which had multi-story levels built of very thick concrete and thick steel, the beam lights on the craft were very bright,came from beneath in center of the craft and traveled in sequence with the colors staying in line going straight down at a slow rate of descent, the beam of lights seemed to be penetrating the center of the building then the lights came back out still in sequence at about a 45 degree angle from the initial penetration it went up about a third of the way towards the space craft and then disapeared, this went on for about 5-6 minutes I think, then the lights all went out ,the craft assended back into the cloud formation turned into a 45 degree bank and shot off in a blink of an eye, the cloud formation was gone also. We were about 200 feet from it at the fence and it was 100-200 ft. above us. We were not scared, or even nervous but felt very calm and different in ways that I can not explain. I will not go into detail as to how and what we were told after reporting this to our superiors. I hope also that Jerry is looking for me as i have this compelling desire to talk with him. I really do not care if you think I am making this up or think that we were hallucinating---we were not, and we didn't take drugs, this is the truth the whole truth.

true



I was stationed in germany at larson barracks with the old 2/39th F.A. self propelled howitzer battalion that was disbanded in the late 80's. Larson barracks was a N.A.T.O site during the cold war and is now shut down I think. My tour of duty there was 83 to 85. The base was in kiztigen. The infrantry and armor base harvey barracks, was on the other side of town in the valley because they had an airfield, Our base was in the mountains. I was on guard duty at the base's rear gate as I was short and had had enough of the field and talked my way into gate duty for my last 90 days there, as my next duty was TDY leading me to airborne training at benning next.

Anyway, the rear gate was shutdown at night and all the lights around it turned off. The first sargent in charge was a vietnam vet and he did'nt like lights interfering with his rear gate guards nightvision. The airbase in nuremburg had a car bomb go off recently at that time, blowing up their gate and it's detachment of guards and he did'nt want it happening to his people, which made him an unbearable person to be around, but he knew his stuff.

Anyway, Here I was standing behind a bomb blast barrier, bored out of my mind and contemplating risking a smoke as I was the only one present. I was looking up at the sky and saw something incredable, but before I get into it, whoever reads this needs to know that at that time all military personel were reguired to reconize all latest aircraft profiles for america's potential enemy's in the regions they served in. In the one second you usually had before it passed by, you were supposed to know what type and who's it was. In theory anyway, in practice it was dahm difficult, but I knew my military crap at that time.

What I saw was what appeared to be an endless line of triangler fighter sized craft. I was going to see the same thing again in 1989 with my then wife, while living in N.H. my home. These craft were black or dark gray in coloring, it was night time, so it could have been either one. These craft seemed like they were just floating along at an astoundingly low rate of speed. too slow to have been a regular fighter craft which , except for them being fighter sized, they did not resemble.

These craft were also only about 150 yards up in the sky and making no noise at all. I called my first sargent who was taking turns covering night shift so the men would'nt think he was an officer, whom you only saw during the day. The only one of them awake at night was the current headquarters geek being shat on for some reason or another. anyway, I called it in to my top and he said he was coming out to look. I quickly stubbed out my illegal smoke and sprayed myself with right guard{ I always carried a small can for emergency's just like that} they were positively anal about those things. To continue, top showed up and stood with me for the whole forty or so minutes it took the formations to pass.

When they had disappeared into the northeastern sky, top looked at me and said, I will need to speak to you later on today around 1400 after you wake up. Until then say nothing to anyone. So I woke up, primped and ate and went to go see him at his personal quarters. The cq at the desk gave me his message to meet him there. When I looked at him when he opened his door, he looked frightened. I said, whats up top. he grabbed me by the shoulders pulled me in and slammed his door. He said, sit and waved me to his visitors chair. I, like a servant, sat instead of giving him sh** like I alway's did in private, when I realized just how out of sorts he was. He looked at me and got to the point as he alway's did.

For whoever reads this, I tell you now that my friend, my topsargent was also from N.H. and is quite dead now. He passed on about 11yrs ago. I am also not worried for myself, because my time is much shorter now, Two years tops. The point he got to though, frightened me like I had never been frightened before {not true, it can be worse}. Top was my friend because we had had mutual friends back home and it seemed there was only about 20 soldiers from home at the base and we stuck together and even though he allowed me to grumble to him at times, I always respected that old warrior and knew when to shut up.

Top looked me in the eye and asked me, Do you want to live? being 20, of course I answered yes and then said, top your scaring me. He was pouring himself a drink and he even poured one to me. You must understand that on a military post that is a nono even of friends who where enlisted. That really got to me, I took the drink and top said, what I am going to say is for your own good. Many years ago some things that I and others could see happening with our military made us nervous, some of our friends have been disappearing and all we know is that it's from the top.
{tops words}
I used to do special ops and they reassigned myself and many others who were involved in that organization. we were shut out. since then many have disappeared or died under strange circumstances. I can't say anymore then that, except it has to do with strange craft like we saw and other things I can't say to you. if they even knew I am saying this much to you, they would kill us both. Do not ever mention what you saw to anyone, not unless you are prepared for the conseqence's. I managed to make it seem like you were in the latrine, takeing care of bissness and that you had diarrea and that I was covering for you when those craft passed by. The doc wrote something up for you in case they check and they will. Thats all I can tell you. I begged and pleaded for him to tell me as much as dignity and the separation of our ranks allowed, to no avail. This is a true story and one of my personal motivations. when a hardcore guy like that speaks like that,you believe him.

As I was leaving he said, they can control you,you know. I turned and looked at him. He had a strange look in his eye's,he said, my best buddy, somethings been done to him, its not him anymore, theres something controlling him. I stood there in his doorway and looked at him. I knew what he meant, some who read this will have read my other post's and know what I'm talking about. Then he said if we ever meet again in the civilian world, do not ever speak of this to me, because for the rest of my life they will be watching me, and bobby,they have an interest in you outside of what has happened here. I've known that since I was little, but I did'nt think it was so far reaching.

In 1995 I went to apply for a prison guard position. Top was directer of personel there. My spelling skills have always been poor, and the board was'nt going to hire me, but top talked them into it. The day I was to report for orientation for the week before the state run prison guard training began. I showed up and reported to the board, they told me their director had died from a heart attack and they would not be needing my services. Thats whats been happening my whole life here and its them that are doing it. So, yeah I believe you, you did see what you saw because all this garbage is real.
rapid7

This is very interesting. Both your posts are intriguing. I think people are afraid to post because we appear to get a lot of hoaxers in the UM forum. So people don’t want too look stupid for taking a story at face valve.
I have heard accounts directly from the source which are similar in detail to the incidents you both describe.

Caana
QUOTE(rapid7 @ Jun 5 2006, 11:57 AM) [snapback]1218835[/snapback]

This is very interesting. Both your posts are intriguing. I think people are afraid to post because we appear to get a lot of hoaxers in the UM forum. So people don’t want too look stupid for taking a story at face valve.
I have heard accounts directly from the source which are similar in detail to the incidents you both describe.



What source would that be? Any effective resistance was either killed or mind wiped. What my friend and the people he was a part of, who knew, Were watched for a while and then effectively destroyed. There is no longer any pure human resistance. Those who are not willing colaberater's are mind wiped or dead. We are a conquered people and I hope your "source" is'nt them, Humanity's hidden enemy's.
retret
the mother of a friend of mine saw a ufo once........
or atleast she sais so...
paquetboy1
I for one am very intreged. I cant really talk about what im doing with my life right now, but when i can i will. True can you say that you had a similar experience with your higher ups as did caana?
rapid7

QUOTE(Caana @ Jun 2 2006, 12:28 PM) [snapback]1214880[/snapback]

I am also not worried for myself, because my time is much shorter now, Two years tops.


I'm sorry to hear this. I hope you're ok. Do you think it's alien related?
btw your right about my source. thumbsup.gif This worries me deeply.

coldethyl
If you guys were being controlled by these aliens, why would they let you tell everyone here?

Just curious...
rapid7

QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jun 7 2006, 01:30 PM) [snapback]1221814[/snapback]

If you guys were being controlled by these aliens, why would they let you tell everyone here?
Just curious...


I’m not controlled by any alien. well, not that I’m aware. huh.gif
I believe people want to talk but are worried to say anything for a number of reasons.

1.Ridicule; it’s going to sound completely unbelievable so no one will take you seriously without hard evidence.

2.Trust, you have to protect people’s right to anonymity so you can’t mention names to back up your case.

3.People are afraid for their lives; whether this is real or not, would you want to take the risk?

Just imagine you personally knew for a fact the alien are here, but you didn’t have the irrefutable evidence. What would you do? I remember once, I thought if it ever happened to me, I’d shout about it and tell everyone but the reality of the situation is far difference.


coldethyl
QUOTE(rapid7 @ Jun 7 2006, 12:00 PM) [snapback]1222006[/snapback]

I’m not controlled by any alien. well, not that I’m aware. huh.gif
I believe people want to talk but are worried to say anything for a number of reasons.


I'm not trying to offend anyone or anything, but if there was solid proof to back up some people's claims then they wouldn't have to worry about ridicule. Know what I mean? Why is it so hard to believe that most of this stuff is created in the human mind? hmm.gif
Caana
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jun 7 2006, 01:30 PM) [snapback]1221814[/snapback]

If you guys were being controlled by these aliens, why would they let you tell everyone here?

Just curious...


They don't need to control everyone. Only our earthly mover's and shaker's and enough of those in each of our culture's leadership roles to guide us and control us. That means grammer school up and domestic spying. That, with no personal privacy law's via the religious groups of America. Have made it easy to ridicule and debunk anyone from any level of society, that would try to bring this problem to light in any accepted forum.

So, you see why they let us communicate this way? It also allows them to monitor this type of activity, so that if anything that actually worry's them pop's up, they already know who and where. The've been doing it for a long time.
Caana
QUOTE(rapid7 @ Jun 7 2006, 05:24 AM) [snapback]1221474[/snapback]

I'm sorry to hear this. I hope you're ok. Do you think it's alien related?
btw your right about my source. thumbsup.gif This worries me deeply.


We can't do anything about it, not from any level. Rapid7, you must know that we can only watch all this being played out. The human player's in all this, as I have said in another posting are " a nation within a nation" Only they and the one's they love, will survive.

The higher ups know that the energy parasite's exist and have found them quite dangerous when confronted. The parasite's, with technology gleened from other enemy's of ours{ which appear to be friendly right now}, can be destroyed. The parasite's have what appear at first glance {when in humans} two factions, that appear to be playing out the various religious horror fantasy's, that they have implanted around and in the mind's, of the people's of our world.

These creature's use the religious and the spiritualist's to act out a process that will end in most of our worlds people's dying. The parasite's can be seen with some sort of imaging device, that eminate's the light spectrum nessasary to see them. They are multi-dimensional and can change to different spectrum's as well as to one's that even current highly classified imaging system's can't see. That is how they infiltrated the intitual human-alien agreement and took over. They took out or brought into collaberation, those of the secret society's that used to run our world and they still use them to accomplish their end's.

These parasite's have been around for a very long time and have influenced and changed the human race into the weakling's we are today. We are downgraded and are collectively forced by a society they have shaped, to believe that the emptyness they are, is the future. whether we wish to or not. The death of what it mean's to be human, happened a long time ago and replaced with the hopeless dogma of "faith's" that are designed to seperate body,mind and voice. To delibrately alienate us from ourselve's.

My belief is that they copy us somehow and that copy believe's itself to be you. What I think the parasite's gain is, is that they make you live a life of denying yourself, so that the copy, your "soul" will be used to the brutal slavery of the parasite's. We humans, being body, mind and voice are indeed sensual, which they, the parasite's, despise. When large numbers of people die, they gain many new slave's.

I have had experiance's, which in their sum total, have formed this response.



Caana
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jun 7 2006, 07:11 PM) [snapback]1222131[/snapback]

I'm not trying to offend anyone or anything, but if there was solid proof to back up some people's claims then they wouldn't have to worry about ridicule. Know what I mean? Why is it so hard to believe that most of this stuff is created in the human mind? hmm.gif


You do have solid proof, at least the ufo and religious and spirituality stuff. The evidence that most people have, can't be substantiated as far as the "proof" you require is concerned. I've already told you that in other post's. The fact that so many seemingly event's, story's and other ephisodes all seem to be overwhelming{many type's of thing's happening all at once} and in many cases different, does not mean they are not real. Did you expect something like this to be easy to explain? to be convienant with the world picture and society you believe to be real. If you can't percieve the cage we are in, it is most likely you never will. Least not until they {humanity's enemy's} do something to make you believe they are real. I like to hope that some, who like me and are better placed, are working on that non- debunkable proof and will show it sometime soon. Until then, you have to keep reading and hopeing that those who are telling the truth like me and many others, actually do post here. Your a good sport, thanks
coldethyl
QUOTE(Caana @ Jun 8 2006, 01:10 AM) [snapback]1222993[/snapback]

You do have solid proof, at least the ufo and religious and spirituality stuff. The evidence that most people have, can't be substantiated as far as the "proof" you require is concerned. I've already told you that in other post's. The fact that so many seemingly event's, story's and other ephisodes all seem to be overwhelming{many type's of thing's happening all at once} and in many cases different, does not mean they are not real. Did you expect something like this to be easy to explain? to be convienant with the world picture and society you believe to be real. If you can't percieve the cage we are in, it is most likely you never will. Least not until they {humanity's enemy's} do something to make you believe they are real. I like to hope that some, who like me and are better placed, are working on that non- debunkable proof and will show it sometime soon. Until then, you have to keep reading and hopeing that those who are telling the truth like me and many others, actually do post here. Your a good sport, thanks


I'm going to take this post with a grain of salt and assume that you're not trying to be rude to me because sometimes it seems like it but then you end with "you're a good sport" so I don't know exactly how to take this. hmm.gif

Anyway I just want to say this. Delusions and delusional states and paranoia are real and have been proven. I'm not asking for proof that aliens have control of us, but just some evidence. I just don't see any myself. Of course you're going to tell me I don't see it because THEY don't want me to see it, but that's just counterproductive.

Again I don't want to argue with anyone but good grief you've got a huge master plan worked out and you have to admit it is a bit 'out there' wink2.gif

johncbdg
coldethyl, i know proof is hard to come by i look for this proof always got some thing for you and everyone here to look at.

http://lsufos.com/chopperpilotgrey1.jpg

http://lsufos.com/


H@v0c++
Very Interesting, I myself joined exaclty for the UFO stuff...I've witnessed a few things in the sky I havn't been able to explain, but I try to disprove what I see instead of just labeling it a UFO...So, idk.
coldethyl
QUOTE(johncbdg @ Jun 8 2006, 06:54 PM) [snapback]1223988[/snapback]

coldethyl, i know proof is hard to come by i look for this proof always got some thing for you and everyone here to look at.

http://lsufos.com/chopperpilotgrey1.jpg

http://lsufos.com/


What is that first pic supposed to be? huh.gif

Like I said I don't want an argument, I'm just curious. wink2.gif

Really tho, none of those pictures can be proven as alien... hmm.gif
ColdTwilight
Like looking at an alien while on an acid trip.

Sorry that's just what the first pic looks like to me. hmm.gif
rice
i've seen a UFO once...but not as close as you encountered yours. mine was when i was in the back seat of my dads car...he was driving down a bridge and i looked at the side windows at the back...and saw this bright oval-shaped object. it was the only thing up in the clear night sky..i was telling my dad to look but he didnt...when the car turned right at the end of the bridge...i looked at the back window of the car..and it was gone..how can this bright object disappear so quickly? i mean..im talking about 4-5 seconds that i took my eyes off of it to re-adjust my eyes to the back of the window while we were turning...that was one of the strangest nights i've ever had
johncbdg
Okay, to cut this short in the pictures at
http://lsufos.com
They show UFObjects from the midlothian area not saying you can see what others can, life is like that and i'm not trying to offend anyone.
ColdTwilight,Like looking at an alien while on an acid trip, i have never been on one and dont think you could take a picture of a hullcinations.

coldethyl
QUOTE(johncbdg @ Jun 9 2006, 08:31 AM) [snapback]1224688[/snapback]

Okay, to cut this short in the pictures at
http://lsufos.com
They show UFObjects from the midlothian area not saying you can see what others can, life is like that and i'm not trying to offend anyone.
ColdTwilight,Like looking at an alien while on an acid trip, i have never been on one and dont think you could take a picture of a hullcinations.


No you definately can't photograph a hallucination.
ColdTwilight
QUOTE(johncbdg @ Jun 9 2006, 01:31 PM) [snapback]1224688[/snapback]

Okay, to cut this short in the pictures at
http://lsufos.com
They show UFObjects from the midlothian area not saying you can see what others can, life is like that and i'm not trying to offend anyone.
ColdTwilight,Like looking at an alien while on an acid trip, i have never been on one and dont think you could take a picture of a hullcinations.


Nah I was just commenting on the quality... Just kind of had that look a lil bit.

Still pretty cool tho. thumbsup.gif
johncbdg
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