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Taylor
I don't know if some of you have heard me say this, or not. About 3 or 4 months ago, I was watching TV with my sister and her boyfriend. All the sudden I felt a ghost come in and sit on my far couch on the other side of the room. It felt as if he was mad at me and sad at the same time. It also felt that he was just there to see me. I looked over at the couch and it almost felt as if he was just staring at me, waiting for me to do something. Has anyone else had an experience like this before? If you have, I would love to hear about it.
snake eyez
I've never experienced anything like that, but I'm not very sensitive to the paranormal. Maybe you have the sixth sense? laugh.gif
Taylor
I'm thinking it was a shadow person or something. That's what it felt like.
snake eyez
QUOTE(Taylor @ May 11 2006, 02:22 PM) [snapback]1184490[/snapback]

I'm thinking it was a shadow person or something. That's what it felt like.


Explain to me what a shadow person is???
Taylor
Well, people talk about them all the time. I think they are big shadow ghosts with red eyes. That's what other people say that they are. I'm not quite sure.
isis-999
The question's is why would a ghost be mad at you, As anyone close to you died in the past month or so, If not then you need to rethink what happen, Have you seen this ghost again seen that night, Ghost most the time come to stay, They just don't drop by to make you feel ill at ease...Figure out what has happen in your life to bring this spirit to you, Playing with magix maybe or a board?....There is some answer to what cuased this you just have figure out what... hmm.gif
snake eyez
QUOTE(Taylor @ May 11 2006, 02:29 PM) [snapback]1184500[/snapback]

Well, people talk about them all the time. I think they are big shadow ghosts with red eyes. That's what other people say that they are. I'm not quite sure.


I have never heard anyone talk about them. This is just my belief but I do not believe in these so called "shadow" ghosts. I am not trying to attack you in anyway. I just feel that it could be hallucinations
Taylor
No, no men have died, not even women have died. I don't know if a ghost would be mad at me, but it seemed mad and upset. I have not been using a board or anything. Just my tarot cards. But I don't know how to talk to ghost through my cards, so I don't think it's that.
Xoisk el Soñador
QUOTE(Taylor @ May 11 2006, 03:17 PM) [snapback]1184559[/snapback]

No, no men have died, not even women have died. I don't know if a ghost would be mad at me, but it seemed mad and upset. I have not been using a board or anything. Just my tarot cards. But I don't know how to talk to ghost through my cards, so I don't think it's that.


Maybe it feels like you’ve invaded it’s personal territory, do you have any eerie background information about your house?
Lizard King
Give him a hug.
Taylor
QUOTE(xoisk @ May 11 2006, 07:28 PM) [snapback]1184578[/snapback]

Maybe it feels like you’ve invaded it’s personal territory, do you have any eerie background information about your house?

Nope. I asked my dad about the previous owners, and he said that no one died, because he knew the previous owners.
Ferran the Skeptic
It may be a case of mistaken identity. I've heard stories of ghosts latching on to people who resemble people they knew in life in either appearance or personality.
isis-999
That could be it..Ghost do get confused sometime's...But if your using card's you could have let something into your home sweetie..Better to let the spirit's be then try to call them into this world.... thumbsup.gif
Taylor
I guess I could have let a ghost in or something, with my cards, but I didn't mean too. He only came once. The way he felt, he probably came in, looked at me, and said, "Danget wrong person!" lol But, yeah, maybe he thought I was another person.
greywolf
QUOTE(snake eyez @ May 11 2006, 12:25 PM) [snapback]1184496[/snapback]

Explain to me what a shadow person is???

hi,
a shadow person as they are called is not what most people would call a ghost.they are diiferent in that they are always a dark figure sometimes with red eyes.many people consider them as a demonic spirit.normally they are seen out of the corner of your eye as a fast passing shadow.i have never heard if they have ever done anything to anyone?i would say they are a form of spirit that is in it's own class.thanks.
Taylor
QUOTE(greywolf @ May 11 2006, 09:21 PM) [snapback]1184718[/snapback]

hi,
a shadow person as they are called is not what most people would call a ghost.they are diiferent in that they are always a dark figure sometimes with red eyes.many people consider them as a demonic spirit.normally they are seen out of the corner of your eye as a fast passing shadow.i have never heard if they have ever done anything to anyone?i would say they are a form of spirit that is in it's own class.thanks.

But if they are a demonic spirit wouldn't they be bad?
greywolf
QUOTE(Taylor @ May 11 2006, 03:29 PM) [snapback]1184729[/snapback]

But if they are a demonic spirit wouldn't they be bad?

hi,
not necessarily.demons go by rank and just scaring someone real bad is about as far as a shadow spirit can go as far as hurting anyone i would think.the next step up would be a poltergeist which can really cause problems.it has never been proven that they are demonic,that's just the general feeling.
Taylor
Oh ok. Thanks for explaining that. original.gif
Hammys Teddy
QUOTE(Taylor @ May 11 2006, 07:13 PM) [snapback]1184472[/snapback]

[color=#000000][font=Fixedsys]I don't know if some of you have heard me say this, or not. About 3 or 4 months ago, I was watching TV with my sister and her boyfriend. All the sudden I felt a ghost come in and sit on my far couch on the other side of the room.



What made you think 'ghost' in the first place?

QUOTE
It felt as if he was mad at me and sad at the same time. It also felt that he was just there to see me. I looked over at the couch and it almost felt as if he was just staring at me, waiting for me to do something.


3 times you refer to what you felt as a 'he'. What makes you so sure what you felt was male?


Personally speaking, and I'm not trying to diss you, I'd say you have an over active imagination.

Teddy.
Hammys Teddy
QUOTE(Taylor @ May 11 2006, 07:29 PM) [snapback]1184500[/snapback]

Well, people talk about them all the time. I think they are big shadow ghosts with red eyes. That's what other people say that they are. I'm not quite sure.


So because people talk about them they are real??

So lets see, by that logic, Santa is real and at Easter theres a 10 ft pink rabbit going around giving away chocolate eggs? rolleyes.gif

Teddy.
Hammys Teddy
QUOTE(isis-999 @ May 11 2006, 07:34 PM) [snapback]1184507[/snapback]

The question's is why would a ghost be mad at you,


The question I'd like answered is why is it a ghost at all??


QUOTE
As anyone close to you died in the past month or so, If not then you need to rethink what happen, Have you seen this ghost again seen that night, Ghost most the time come to stay, They just don't drop by to make you feel ill at ease...


And this is based on what exactly??


QUOTE
Figure out what has happen in your life to bring this spirit to you, Playing with magix maybe or a board?


A blackboard, a floor board or did you mean a Ouija Board? It hardly matters what you meant, since all three are inanimate objects with NO special powers/engeries/magic you'd have about the same chance of rasing the dead with either one, about zero.

QUOTE
There is some answer to what caused this you just have figure out what... hmm.gif


I'm still routing for imagination....

Teddy.
Hammys Teddy
QUOTE(isis-999 @ May 11 2006, 10:13 PM) [snapback]1184711[/snapback]

That could be it..Ghost do get confused sometime's.


And you know this because. . .

Mind you, you could well have a point, how many times have we seen them struggle to remember their names let alone anything else.
How is it that psychics began their nonsense, oh yes, I'm getting an M, do you know someone by the name of Mark, Michael, Matthew, Mary or Margaret etc. .

QUOTE
But if your using card's you could have let something into your home sweetie..Better to let the spirit's be then try to call them into this world.... thumbsup.gif


Even better to realise that Tarot Cards are nothing more than bits of paper with nice pictures on them.

Why they are used to predict the future, love, health and wealth these days is beyond me.

They were simply invented circa 15th century Italy as a card game called Triumphs, they were lavishly decorated with fancy pictures as was the style in those days.

Teddy.
Taylor
If you think your so smart, put 2 and 2 together. I knew it was a ghost because I felt it. I can oly feel ghosts. I know it was a male because I felt it to be a male. I'm saying ghosts are real because I see them and I feel them all the time. Tarot cards are not bits of paper, they are real and they work. For your Information I do not have an over active Imagination. I know that ghosts are real because of my experiences, weather you believe in them or not.
Hammys Teddy
QUOTE(greywolf @ May 11 2006, 10:21 PM) [snapback]1184718[/snapback]

hi,
a shadow person as they are called is not what most people would call a ghost.they are diiferent in that they are always a dark figure sometimes with red eyes.


Dark figure, Hmmm, do you think this is maybe why they are referred to as 'shadow people'?

QUOTE
Many people consider them as a demonic spirit.


Which still does not make them anymore real.

QUOTE
Normally they are seen out of the corner of your eye as a fast passing shadow.


infra sound waves can cause the retina of the eye to vibrate and produce the same effect as 'seeing something out the corner of you eye', which is more likely than it being a dead person or a demonic entity.

QUOTE
I have never heard if they have ever done anything to anyone?


And your unlikely to as well as this would require proof that they exist at all, which aint gonna happen now is it.

QUOTE
I would say they are a form of spirit that is in it's own class.thanks.


Is this an educated guess or have you some experience in dealing with these alleged entities??

Teddy.
Hammys Teddy
QUOTE(greywolf @ May 11 2006, 11:18 PM) [snapback]1184805[/snapback]

hi,
not necessarily.demons go by rank


They do, wow... how do they earn these ranks and what ranks are they exactly?

QUOTE
and just scaring someone real bad is about as far as a shadow spirit can go as far as hurting anyone i would think.


You would think, or you would know?? Where does your knowledge of these things come from... books? comics?

QUOTE
the next step up would be a poltergeist which can really cause problems.


I'll say, especially if they get at your best china tea set, the day before the vicar arrives?

QUOTE
it has never been proven that they are demonic,that's just the general feeling.


Might interest you to know that its never been proven that they exist at all.

Teddy.
Hammys Teddy
QUOTE(Taylor @ May 11 2006, 11:51 PM) [snapback]1184862[/snapback]

[font=Fixedsys]If you think your so smart, put 2 and 2 together.


I did, and unlike you I came up with 4 NOT 5.

QUOTE
I knew it was a ghost because I felt it.


So you felt it, you didnt see it and it didnt do anything, you just 'felt' it was there? And of course your infallible so it must have been a ghost, right rolleyes.gif

QUOTE
I can only feel ghosts. I know it was a male because I felt it to be a male.


What does a male ghost feel like as apposed to a female one? I mean, how do you tell the difference??


QUOTE
I'm saying ghosts are real because I see them and I feel them all the time.


How can you be sure it was a ghost when you cant even be sure what your saying? Two sentences ago you said you 'only' feel them now your trying to claim you see them as well...

QUOTE
Tarot cards are not bits of paper, they are real and they work.


Erm, they are bits of paper, but that is immaterial, please demonstrate how they work, I am most curious?

QUOTE
For your Information I do not have an over active Imagination. I know that ghosts are real because of my experiences, weather you believe in them or not.


I never claimed you actually did, I merely said that was what I believed, please by all means prove me wrong??

Teddy.
greywolf
QUOTE(Hammys Teddy @ May 11 2006, 05:01 PM) [snapback]1184873[/snapback]

They do, wow... how do they earn these ranks and what ranks are they exactly?
You would think, or you would know?? Where does your knowledge of these things come from... books? comics?
I'll say, especially if they get at your best china tea set, the day before the vicar arrives?
Might interest you to know that its never been proven that they exist at all.

Teddy.

my knowledge of this comes from 20 years of paranormal investigations and a bachelors degree in parasychology.the ranks are given according to the bible.
^SolidSnake^
If she says she saw something sit on the sofa next to her how can you be 100% sure she imagined it? So let me get this straight...black figure....red eyes? Angry and sad....

Maybe some how a demonic spirit has taken over the spiritual body of a lost soul, so the sadness comes from he knows what's controlling him and he don't like it...and the demonic spirit is where the anger is coming from. Or it could be a lost soul...who is sad for being dead and angry because your alive.
Hammys Teddy
QUOTE(greywolf @ May 12 2006, 12:29 AM) [snapback]1184912[/snapback]

my knowledge of this comes from 20 years of paranormal investigations and a bachelors degree in parasychology.the ranks are given according to the bible.



A degree in Parapsychology indeed, from which University did you obtain this degree??

I dont read the bible, works of fiction aren't really my thing, could you referene where I'll find this passage and I'll look it up?

Teddy.
isis-999
Well you may be a seer dear...That would explain how you seen a spirit.... thumbsup.gif
greywolf
QUOTE(Hammys Teddy @ May 11 2006, 05:40 PM) [snapback]1184926[/snapback]

A degree in Parapsychology indeed, from which University did you obtain this degree??

I dont read the bible, works of fiction aren't really my thing, could you referene where I'll find this passage and I'll look it up?

Teddy.

univ.of louisville 1994.please check these verses.matt.12:43,45.mark9:17-29.ephesians 6:12.luke 11:24,26.
Taylor
Teddy,
Males feel more strong and feel like men while Females feel like females. My God man, why do you have to keep twisting what I say? I saw a ghost once. I can only see them sometimes. I feel them more then I see them. Now do you understand?
Otacon
QUOTE(Taylor @ May 11 2006, 07:27 PM) [snapback]1185002[/snapback]

I feel them more then I see them. Now do you understand?



Oh ya sure....Completely understand now... blink.gif
isis-999
I get it..she feels the ghost more then she can see them.... thumbsup.gif
Taylor
Thank you. original.gif
Hammys Teddy
QUOTE(Taylor @ May 12 2006, 01:27 AM) [snapback]1185002[/snapback]

[font=Fixedsys]Teddy,
My God man, why do you have to keep twisting what I say?


I didnt twist anything, You CLEARLY stated you can ONLY feel ghosts, you later changed that to you can SEE and feel them?


QUOTE
I saw a ghost once. I can only see them sometimes.


Here you go again. You saw a ghost ONCE, yet you claim you can see them SOMETIMES which implies more than once?

Make your mind up, you can either see them or you can't, you cant have it both ways.

Teddy.
Hammys Teddy
QUOTE(^SolidSnake^ @ May 12 2006, 12:37 AM) [snapback]1184921[/snapback]

If she says she saw something sit on the sofa next to her how can you be 100% sure she imagined it?


1st of, she said she felt it NOT saw it

and 2nd

I didnt say I was 100% sure, i simply said I believed it was her imagination. And lets face it, given the severe lack of proof for the existence of ghosts, imagination is as good a reason as any.

Teddy.
Hammys Teddy
QUOTE(greywolf @ May 12 2006, 01:17 AM) [snapback]1184984[/snapback]

univ.of louisville 1994.


I had a look at The Uni's website, they don't appear to offer any kind of degree or in fact any kind of qualification in Parapsychology at the moment. However that doesnt mean they didnt offer it back in 1994 but just to be sure I have sent them an e-mail.

QUOTE
please check these verses.matt.12:43,45.mark9:17-29.ephesians 6:12.luke 11:24,26.


I looked up these verses, I can find no reference to any kind of 'rank' in them, tho one or two mention an 'unclean' spirit?

So again, what are these ranks, how do they work, can you get promoted and/or de-moted?


Teddy.

Mookie
QUOTE(Taylor @ May 11 2006, 07:22 PM) [snapback]1184490[/snapback]

I'm thinking it was a shadow person or something. That's what it felt like.


How would you know if it was a shadow person? Do you have much experience with them?
Mookie
QUOTE(Lizard King @ May 11 2006, 08:34 PM) [snapback]1184587[/snapback]

Give him a hug.


Definately tongue.gif
DeadRobot
QUOTE(Hammys Teddy @ May 11 2006, 11:24 PM) [snapback]1184816[/snapback]

What made you think 'ghost' in the first place?
3 times you refer to what you felt as a 'he'. What makes you so sure what you felt was male?
Personally speaking, and I'm not trying to diss you, I'd say you have an over active imagination.

Teddy.



QUOTE(Hammys Teddy @ May 11 2006, 11:26 PM) [snapback]1184821[/snapback]

So because people talk about them they are real??

So lets see, by that logic, Santa is real and at Easter theres a 10 ft pink rabbit going around giving away chocolate eggs? rolleyes.gif

Teddy.



QUOTE(Hammys Teddy @ May 11 2006, 11:36 PM) [snapback]1184843[/snapback]

The question I'd like answered is why is it a ghost at all??
And this is based on what exactly??
A blackboard, a floor board or did you mean a Ouija Board? It hardly matters what you meant, since all three are inanimate objects with NO special powers/engeries/magic you'd have about the same chance of rasing the dead with either one, about zero.
I'm still routing for imagination....

Teddy.



QUOTE(Hammys Teddy @ May 11 2006, 11:45 PM) [snapback]1184856[/snapback]

And you know this because. . .

Mind you, you could well have a point, how many times have we seen them struggle to remember their names let alone anything else.
How is it that psychics began their nonsense, oh yes, I'm getting an M, do you know someone by the name of Mark, Michael, Matthew, Mary or Margaret etc. .
Even better to realise that Tarot Cards are nothing more than bits of paper with nice pictures on them.

Why they are used to predict the future, love, health and wealth these days is beyond me.

They were simply invented circa 15th century Italy as a card game called Triumphs, they were lavishly decorated with fancy pictures as was the style in those days.

Teddy.



QUOTE(Hammys Teddy @ May 11 2006, 11:53 PM) [snapback]1184865[/snapback]

Dark figure, Hmmm, do you think this is maybe why they are referred to as 'shadow people'?
Which still does not make them anymore real.
infra sound waves can cause the retina of the eye to vibrate and produce the same effect as 'seeing something out the corner of you eye', which is more likely than it being a dead person or a demonic entity.
And your unlikely to as well as this would require proof that they exist at all, which aint gonna happen now is it.
Is this an educated guess or have you some experience in dealing with these alleged entities??

Teddy.



QUOTE(Hammys Teddy @ May 12 2006, 12:01 AM) [snapback]1184873[/snapback]

They do, wow... how do they earn these ranks and what ranks are they exactly?
You would think, or you would know?? Where does your knowledge of these things come from... books? comics?
I'll say, especially if they get at your best china tea set, the day before the vicar arrives?
Might interest you to know that its never been proven that they exist at all.

Teddy.



QUOTE(Hammys Teddy @ May 12 2006, 12:12 AM) [snapback]1184886[/snapback]

I did, and unlike you I came up with 4 NOT 5.
So you felt it, you didnt see it and it didnt do anything, you just 'felt' it was there? And of course your infallible so it must have been a ghost, right rolleyes.gif
What does a male ghost feel like as apposed to a female one? I mean, how do you tell the difference??
How can you be sure it was a ghost when you cant even be sure what your saying? Two sentences ago you said you 'only' feel them now your trying to claim you see them as well...
Erm, they are bits of paper, but that is immaterial, please demonstrate how they work, I am most curious?
I never claimed you actually did, I merely said that was what I believed, please by all means prove me wrong??

Teddy.



QUOTE(Hammys Teddy @ May 12 2006, 12:40 AM) [snapback]1184926[/snapback]

A degree in Parapsychology indeed, from which University did you obtain this degree??

I dont read the bible, works of fiction aren't really my thing, could you referene where I'll find this passage and I'll look it up?

Teddy.



QUOTE(Hammys Teddy @ May 12 2006, 02:24 AM) [snapback]1185088[/snapback]

I didnt twist anything, You CLEARLY stated you can ONLY feel ghosts, you later changed that to you can SEE and feel them?
Here you go again. You saw a ghost ONCE, yet you claim you can see them SOMETIMES which implies more than once?

Make your mind up, you can either see them or you can't, you cant have it both ways.

Teddy.



QUOTE(Hammys Teddy @ May 12 2006, 02:29 AM) [snapback]1185096[/snapback]

1st of, she said she felt it NOT saw it

and 2nd

I didnt say I was 100% sure, i simply said I believed it was her imagination. And lets face it, given the severe lack of proof for the existence of ghosts, imagination is as good a reason as any.

Teddy.



QUOTE(Hammys Teddy @ May 12 2006, 08:10 AM) [snapback]1185391[/snapback]

I had a look at The Uni's website, they don't appear to offer any kind of degree or in fact any kind of qualification in Parapsychology at the moment. However that doesnt mean they didnt offer it back in 1994 but just to be sure I have sent them an e-mail.
I looked up these verses, I can find no reference to any kind of 'rank' in them, tho one or two mention an 'unclean' spirit?

So again, what are these ranks, how do they work, can you get promoted and/or de-moted?
Teddy.


I love your attitude in these posts, as subtle as a spikey brick being thrown about in a glass factory and no consideration for other's beliefs or feelings. A skeptic's hero and an a**ehole to the believers grin2.gif

Bless you with all that paranormal blessy stuff you so love to reply to and tear up. thumbsup.gif
boorite
QUOTE(greywolf @ May 12 2006, 12:17 AM) [snapback]1184984[/snapback]

univ.of louisville 1994.


I can't find any indication that U of Louisville offers a degree or any classes at all in parapsychology, and the American Association for Parapsychology says, "there are no residential University Degree Programs offered anywhere in the United States with a major in the subject." What does it mean that you have a Bachelor's in Parapsychology from the University of Louisville?
wang
I hope all a$$holes giving this person a really hard time and trashing ghosts.... I hope u piss some spiritual being off and it haunts your a$$ forever.....

then maybe you'll give these forums a little more respect.
coldethyl
QUOTE(wang @ May 12 2006, 03:26 AM) [snapback]1185428[/snapback]

I hope all a$$holes giving this person a really hard time and trashing ghosts.... I hope u piss some spiritual being off and it haunts your a$$ forever.....

then maybe you'll give these forums a little more respect.


Oh this is brilliant. rolleyes.gif Not really helping your cause out here, are you? The skeptics have just as much right to be here as everyone else even if they aren't subtle.
dancin'hamster
wacko.gif

I'm sorry but I have to agree with what Teddy has said.
There is no evidence, other than 'a feeling'. Please don't take this as a criticism Taylor. You seem to be very angry when questioned about what happened. 'Teddy' is a very experienced researcher of the paranormal, and although he may seem a bit antagonistic, it is only because he has a genuine interest in the subject. You couldn't wish to meet a kinder person in the flesh.

And demons????- I have already spoken to an individual on this site, who claimed he had a degree in Demonology - there is no such thing, other than Ed & Lorriane Warrens' home-made-do-it-yourself-er which is hardly valid.

What irks me here is all the people who are willing to feed such utter non-sense to this young lady. It is totally irresponsible to claim that she is being visited by 'Shadow People' and demons and that they have popped in thru an open portal because of a deck of playing cards!!!!!!!!!!!

Please - be very careful about what you say.
People have been damaged by the belief that they are being stalked by 'dark entities'.

DeadRobot
It read like everything she was saying was over-scrutenized by him. Although he has very valid points and is right (in my view) I believe he was a bit on the harsh side is all.
coldethyl
QUOTE(DeadRobot @ May 12 2006, 01:34 PM) [snapback]1185863[/snapback]

It read like everything she was saying was over-scrutenized by him. Although he has very valid points and is right (in my view) I believe he was a bit on the harsh side is all.


I think that's just the way he is though. He's been around a long time. I remember reading posts by him a while back and he's just straight forward.

I however, go down like pudding. yes.gif
^SolidSnake^
Taylor explain when you feel spirits...because I feel things that I don't know what they are...so I wanna know if I feel the same as you.
DeadRobot
QUOTE(coldethyl @ May 12 2006, 07:40 PM) [snapback]1185870[/snapback]

I think that's just the way he is though. He's been around a long time. I remember reading posts by him a while back and he's just straight forward.

I however, go down like pudding. yes.gif


Fairy snuff, I've not been on here long so should probably keep me trap shut in circumstances like this.

I do however see him as an asset to see the 'straight to the point' skeptic point of view as some threads can get believer biased.

So a big thumbs up to everyone in the forum original.gif
Hammys Teddy
QUOTE(wang @ May 12 2006, 09:26 AM) [snapback]1185428[/snapback]

I hope all a$$holes giving this person a really hard time and trashing ghosts.... I hope u piss some spiritual being off and it haunts your a$$ forever.....

then maybe you'll give these forums a little more respect.


Way to go wanger (misprint)

I've been trying to piss of 'spiritual beings' now for a long time but they dont seem to have a lot to say on the matter.

However, I'll send you my card and you can have one give me a call.

Teddy.
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