im not an expert on ghosts, but, lets say for an instance, i loved my house, andi didn't want anything happened to my house if i ever died. now, let's just say it is possible that my will existed after my physical body has gone............and then one day some schmo comes by, buys my beloved property and decides to change it from it's original form. wtf! helll no i will not rest and watch that happen.......... well, then, as you might have guessed...some paranormal crap might have happened to try to changed the new owners mind or scare them out..

i do not personally know what ghosts are. but maybe they are what our consciousness is when we are asleep, dreaming... we experience things when we are asleep, we don't know if it's real or not..but we assume it's real... maybe death is really just an eternal sleep that we never wake up from......and those who went to the light, actually free'd themselves from the prison of the eternal sleep.... anyhow.. thats how i see it lol.. feel free to correct me

i had a conversation about this like, a few days ago. i agree that its perfectly pheasable, concidering being asleep is the closest you can be to death.(supposedly)

so...when one is dead, does one know he is alseep or dreaming? or does he knoe he/she is dead???? how does an emotional situation supposedly get stuck in tine and haunt future lives?.............. do we even know what life is and what consciousness is??.. does life means consciousness + physical body.............. and consciousness = idea, mind, knowledge,... whatever... floating is space.. scattered with nowhere to take a foothold?

.... and thats why life is so precious is that it is able to gather whatever that is floating out there and express it and re-express it (reproduction thru DNA) as consciousness desires? maybe consciousness is self serving. a sort of narcissist. it wants to be known and seen and reacted to... maybe life, all life is one.....but because of the vessel that carries it, it does not know it is one............. maybe life and consciousness is one, it is God? and we are all a part of God?

After reading these posts I just have to reply to some of them.

That is exactly how the spirits of some people feel after they die and they love the homes so much they spend a lot of time there and the owners see them and they get scared, when all the former owners may be doing is hanging around there and they may not even want the new owners to see them but somehow they have the ability to see them, and they run screaming and try to find exorcists to bless the house and chase them away and they don't want to go and so they dig their feet in and stay and try not to be seen and things sometimes go from bad to worse.

Then the new owners begin to change things and the former owners see all their work go down the drain and see the new owners changing everything and they become so frustrated that things can sometimes get very ugly.

Well the old owners need to know that after they died the new owners paid good money and the home is no longer theirs.

Now I would like to say you should go somewhere else but where?

I have been communicating with my realtives and others in the after life for a long time and some of my relatives are very angry that I have tried to exorcise them from my home and so they became what we know of as Evil Possessing Spirits and now I am trying to make peace with them and tell them if they try to change and stop doing their Evil Spirit Routine I will not ask them to leave.

You see while I know there is Life After Death and I have been working with the Spirit world for more than twenty Years I don't know if there is a heaven or hell for them to go to as we are told and I am not sure what I will find when I get there all I know now is I feel from what I know now we must all learn to communicate and live as peacefully as we can.

I do know when you shed your earthly body the Spirit with all its intelligence goes to the After Life and they still feel love and hate and jealousies about many things.

I write this not to frighten but to educate others to what I know so far and I am sure I still have much to learn.

I do know for sure that there is a place somewhere in the Universe that can look years into the past and the future and I guess that is where heaven is but I also know some Spirits do not leave the Earthplane so readily and so for a time we Earthlings must deal with them.

ok now.. do these spirits know they are dead in the real time sense or do they know they are dead, but in rality their consciousness might tell them they are asleep? certainly when i am dreaming and if one of my dream characters whom i met in my dream tells me im dead, i either one, belive him or 2 keep playing along and let the dream last as long as it takes.............. so ....... i mean.. do they reallly know they are dead or are they realy just living in a dream world for whatever time frame???????????

honestly, when i was dreaming last night and i dreamed that i had psychokenetic powers, able to move objects with will...i didn't want my dream to end.. now how do i know that my dream where i made things move,, doors slam, dishes fly... did not happen to real people in real life somewhere else????.....lets just say for the sake of argument.... that my dream is just a dream...... what if a dead person's consciousness can actually manefist that dream into reality....and what he sees in his dream (death) he might think he's dreaming.........actully becomes real........... no matter what the priests and exorcists tells the ghosts hes been dead.... how does one in his dream really realize what he is deaming is actually real????????????????????

I will answer this as best I can from what I gather from the Spirits of Relatives and Guides some of whom I didn't know personally when they Walked the Earth but did know from the News Media and things like that when they are public figures.

Sometimes the people I communicate with died from Natural Causes, and some were in accidents and some were murdered, sometimes by people they trusted and loved.
When the Spirit leaves the body it is much like an out of body experience we hear about but in some cases the body is too ill and or too injured to make it back and so we have death instead of an out of body experience.

At first there is Great Grief as we would expect and they don't want to die because they all have things left unrolved on earth in many cases.

If its an accident or murder the Spirit is shocked out of its body and one minute they are alive and the next minute their Spirit is looking back down at a dead body that medical persons are working on.

If they are murdered sometimes the killer leaves the body somewhere in a remote area and we all know what can happen under those conditions while the sad spirit looks down on the scene as people search for the body and family members weep and suffer.

The Spirit is just as alive and alert as it was when it walked the Earth but now it doesn't have a body and no one can hear them, unless they learn to communicate with their loved ones or unless a Psychic Channel can give their relatives on Earth messages they are sending.

Sometimes the distressed persons spirit comes back and tries to communicate through thoughts, dreams and or in some cases through sounds and words, voices, that the people on Earth can sometimes hear.

If the people on Earth don't know how to communciate and if they don't believe in Spirit Communication they hear the voices and right away they think they are having some sort of mental breakdown and they go off to a Doctor who prescribes pills and diagnose them as being mentally ill.

Well I might have gotten off the track some here but what I am trying to say is some people on Earth are scared of Ghosts and Haunts and if they hear voices they are afraid to tell someone because they may diagnose them as mentally ill.

Some of the Spirits who have been killed or died suddenly in an accident or suffered before Death and if someone wasn't kind to them their Spirit could arrive in the After Life and be quite angry and vengeful for a time, and or they could just be sad and want to tell someone how they feel.

Trying to give you a sense of what I know and I am always happy to tell everyone what I know so we can all better understand and when our family members or others try to reach us from beyond the Veil of death we will know the truth and know how to respond and one day when we ourselves go there we will know how to prepare for death if we have time, and discuss this with others so everyone learns how to communicate and we can all help each other when it becomes our time to go.

An open mind and shared experiences is the answer to understanding everything better.
Knowing all this, I am not afraid of Death, but I also don't want to rush towards Death, and so I am here to say Death is something we all need to deal with on Earth and from the Spirit World.

I believe we should all plan to stay on Earth as long as we can and keep our bodies healthy and alive as long as we can and when it is our time to go we should all hope its as painless as it can be and that the transition is as smooth as it can be and it would be good if we could all die at a very advanced age as painless as possible but unfortunately that is not always the case.

ok....if our dead spirits are as intelligent and soulful as u say.. then why the hell do we need to be in a "living" form anyways?? what is the purpose of being trapped in a protein cased sack of bone, flesh and blood?.. if life goes on well after physical death, then really, what is the good of physical LIFE good for in the first place?? have you ever thought of asking that to a dead person???. we all know that living is wonderful. it's awsome, but heck, if the dead can feel and see and experiece what we can when we are alive, then what the hell? lets cut out the middleman, lets all be dead!

I don't know all the answers but I suppose we are here to meet and fall in love and reproduce and keep the Human Race going.

We are here to invent and create and learn lessons and teach lessons and keep this old world spinning around as it has done since the point of creation.

Now that I know the answers I do I now am thinking a lot about Creation, and Evolution and things like how did this miracle all begin?

And now I am asking myself things like I know there is a Creator, because we have people and crops and animals and all the things were meant to nourish our body, and keep us healthy and trees die and come back in the spring and all those things so I have no doubt about the Miracle of Creation but now I find myself saying, but who created the Creator, and where and how did it all begin?

Will I ever have all the answers?

Probably not, but I intend to keep looking as long as I am alive and one day when I get to the After Life I will if I can find some Psychic Channel to let me talk through them and I will try to give them as many answers as I can find out and in the Meantime I will communicate with my Spirit Guides and relatives, and friends in the Spirit World and learn as much as I can and write as much about what I learn as I can so that one day when I am no longer here others will take over and continue to write about these things.

Note: I would like to say that I am not the only one writing here, friends in the After Life are helping me write these things here through automatic Writing.
So ask whatever you like and I and they will come on here and write and who knows what will go on the Paper?
That's how Automatic Writing works, I read something and then I reply and as I type and they put ideas into my head and we all exchange thoughts whatever ends up on the paper I hope makes sense, because when I come on the Computer I have absolutely no idea where it will all go.

why do we need to keep humanity alive......does it make sense? if one human has already died and lived on after he/she died... then well technically its keeping humanity alive. it doesn't need more. what good is it to get more dead (pass over) souls, energies? what do you do with all those dead humanity? build an army? conquore new worlds? really? waht is the point? you've made one set of people that died.. ok it lives on afterlife.. ok? why new ones? do they serve any purpose? if there is a god or a devil and both of them wants our soul.. then our numerical amount must meant something............... if there is a heaven or hell to begin with....

why don't you ask them...is there realy a god. not a god they believe in when they are alive.. but a god that actually exists that they fear and respect...a god that can destroy them, i mean, lets be honest, if i am already dead, what the hell can i be afraid of? another death? maybe.. certainly not being roasted in hell.. that won't kill. me.. im already DEAD! whats to fear or suffer?.. anyways.. i know this is hard to explain... try ur best.. ask ur spirit guide............ if he's christian.. maybe he will tell u that there is a heaven and hell.
or maybe he just want you to die soon so you can be his buddy in the boring afterlife.?

Sounds like the very enthusiasic line the Judean Crack Suicide Squad would have used

i believe that the dead get mixed up with the living because theyre not quite sure they're dead. if death = permenant sleep, you would be dreaming, you wouldnt know you had died.

ive had some dreams where people who have died have visited me, so i believe once you die you can go into a permenant dream, and if you have the knowledge to control it, you can go into other peoples dreams to deliver messages, which would make sense, maybe most hauntings are just infestations of someones minds brought by a spirit visiting them in their dreams? who knows, but yeah.

I visited my grandparents who had died about a year or so before hand (in thier old place of residence) in a very vivid dream and they basically said thier goodbyes to me. What disturbed me was the fact that everything in the dream was 100% as was when they were alive, no dream like anomolies like the walls flowing or chair type changing it was thier place they lived to the last detail.

Whether it was just a dream or if it was my grandparents saying fairwell it was a comforting feeling and was very sweet.

the same thing happened to me, i had a dream that i was saying goodbye to my dads friend who had been like a grandfather to me, his house looked exactly the same and everything, except there was bright light everywhere. when i woke up and told my mom about it she told me he had died 2 weeks earlier and nobody had told me.

The window in my grandparents living room was very bright in the dream but it had one of those white screen things that old folks seem to have.

odd. I've tried astral projection before, like meditiating and visiting people i knew while they were sleeping, and they all said in their dreams everything was really bright too. sometimes they'd tell me the exact thing i "did". like i would push them over when they were sleeping or do something that couldnt just be coincidence, like touching only their right ear, or saying a certian word.

dreams are quite facinating.

Okay. First of all not everyone that is mentally ill hears voices. This is a fact. Also, most people who are mentally ill enough to hear voices deny that they are mentally ill and do not fear the doctor, they deny the fact that they are mentally ill and feel they don't need a doctor's help.
A lot of people who are mentally ill can be helped by medicine and it has nothing to do with the paranormal and for you to suggest otherwise is irresponsible. Representing you opinions as fact is not a very good idea. You can believe that people who are mentally ill are being tormented by the undead all you want, but don't present it as fact because you will most certainly irk some people off.

agreed, however how can you tell between someone who is hearing vioces of the dead (or so they claim) and poeple who are hearing voices as a mental instablility? Depending on thier paranoia they might have dead speaking to them but are too frightened to ask for help incase they get put away into a mental hospital, hypotically speaking.

Well I can answer that simply because I don't believe that the dead speak to people.

If the prescribed meds from the psychiatrist work and quiet the voices then that would suggest that the voices are internal and not from the dead.

But if you are so inclined to believe that the dead do speak to people, why would the dead try to drive you crazy? I mean what if you have no close deceased relatives and you hear voices telling you everyone is after you (because that is usually what paranoid schizophrenics hear) and you have a history of mental illness in your family? What is more likely in all reality? Why wouldn't the dead tell you something useful? Like where to find good coupons, for instance? I guess it comes down to what is being heard. I find it hard to believe that dead people come back from the dead to whisper paranoid fantasies into random people's heads instead of telling important people about life after death. But hey, that's just me.

I think I have posted this on another forum, but I had a dream the night after my father died. I have never had dreams this real before, but maybe I was under alot of stress and did not sleep good the night before. I had a dream my dad came walking down my hall way in my house and I greeted him and said "Dad!!" and tryed to give him a hug, I knew he was dead while I was dreaming, but he pushed me away and walked down the hall towards the kitchen and opened up the refridgerator. He peeked his head in the fridge and looked at me and complained about having no tea...TYPICAL OF HIM...

Thats cool and I understand where your comming from I was just voicing a retorical question I suppose
Unfortunatley I have no voices in my head telling me the lottery results and fortunatly not forcing me to perform mass murder, no voices at all except my own which can get annoying sometimes.

I have never said people should not visit therapists, and in fact back in the Seventies I visited Dr. Petas and talked about what I believed to be a multiple personality and he gave me medication and therapy, but as time went on some of his therapy included his telling me I am his favorite patient, and things got pretty cozy behind his wife's back and also behind the backs of the other women he was telling the same thing to.

After he passed away in l985 he met up with three of my relatives and they came here and he and they demanded that i send all the other Guides away and when I refused he and my three Relatives climbed into my body and declared themselves Evil Spirits and said they will not leave until I send all the other Spirit Communicators away and I have refused to do that for 20 years and I will not send the other Guides away who have more interesting stories to tell than these four.

I knew these four when they walked the Earth and I know all their stories but I have said if they leave my body and straighten up I will eventually let them channel again if they apologize to me and covnince some of my relatives they are alive in the Spirit World.

I am not suggesting that no one ever go to a psychiatrist because no matter what the problem, talking to someone can help but I would suggest to anyone seeing a psychiatrist if he appraoches you on a more intimate basis, remember that he is not supposed to do that and can have his license taken away if word gets out that he is intimately fratenizing with the patient.

I would like to state here that I personally did not have an intimate affair with him just a little kiss or too but I believe another woman I knew had a baby with him and when he wouldn't leave his wife for her she began to dislike the child so much she gave it up or adoption to punish Dr. Petas.

I got off the subject here but I believe the message is keep the Psychiatrist and Lawyers and professionals like that at arms length because some of them are bored and on the Prowl and why not get the fee and a little action on the side if you can find some lonely guillable participants.

However I guess he may have liked me more than the others he was dallying with because he has been here with me since the day his Spirit left the Earth plane.

Perhaps we are Soul Mates after all the way he keeps saying.

I'm sorry to hear you were victimised, and I'm glad it appears that post death he thought you were 'special' enough to spend all his afterlife (so far) with you if you did like him and have feelings for him. It would be nice however to hear other posters who have a problem related to this or know someone suffering from this problem to voice thier opinions

I wouldn't mind he and my three relatives waiting for me until I come to join them, if they would just not do it waiting inside my body, and trying to order me to send the Guides away who want to write about many things.
When this all began I was trying to help one of the Guides write about Cancer and all sorts of things and find missing people but now with these four sitting inside my body exhausting my brain its impossible for me to do those things, and I guess I'm writing about them hoping as we write they will begin to see things from a different point of view and leave my body at least and write from outside my body like everyone else does who channels through me.

Just thought I would say I would have been nice to them, and been happy to talk to them, if they had only met me half way, instead of treating me as they have.

What would happen if you sent the guides away, hypotheticly speaking? Would you have peace and why would they want you to send the guides away, or are they moaning that there isn't enough space in your body for all of them?!?
Just curious as I don't know much about this kinda thing.

You might cut down on the mind exaustion if you stopped writing A4 sized replies that might start with the topic then twisting them into a topic about you and your friends.

Just out of curiosity have you sought any more psychatric help since your old doctor died, as i think you might seriouslly need it as you keep taking over threads and then making them your own.

Ghosts are entitys who have dies and not passed over, entitys who either dont know they are dead, which explains why some people thing their are "mean" ghosts, wouldnt u be pissed if everyone acted as if you were invisible all of a sudden? Or someone who has died and refuses to cross over, due to an overwhelming attachment to family, friends or yes even property. Spirits are those who have passed over and occasionally come around to watch out and protect loved ones still here. Or many other reasons actually come to mind. I could talk about the things you discuss in your post for hours so, as not to bore you, i will say goodbye

sigh...

Indeed, robin. It looks like the villianus work of 'The broken Record'! *que dramatic music*

Perhaps you should marry yourself and then take a very long honeymoon somewhere without electricity?

Sorry to be mean or anything, but is RosemaryCampbell and Rosemary Campbell the same person, or just some weird coincidence thing?

*gives the Rosemarys a BIG HUUUG*

EDITED: Added plural since there is now 2 of them.

Closed, warnings now being issued.