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~Doppleganger~
Here something I found on the Internet:

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In May 1955, a man reported an unbelievably strange sight while driving home at 3:30 a.m. in Loveland, Ohio, northeast of Cincinnati. He claimed to have spotted three bipedal reptilian creatures standing by the side of the road, and pulled over to watch them from his car for about three minutes. One of the froglike beings carried some type of bar or wand above its head, and sparks were shooting out of the device. The driver notified Loveland police of what he had seen, although no evidence of the creatures was later found.

Almost twenty years later, in March 1972, an unnamed Loveland police officer was driving on Riverside Road at about 1:00 a.m., traveling slowly because of ice on the road. Up ahead he saw an animal standing at the side of the road, which he first thought was a dog. As the cruiser's headlights fell on the animal, it rose upright from a crouching position, showing itself to be three or four feet tall with leathery skin and a head like that of a lizard or frog. The beast looked at the officer momentarily before jumping over the guard rail and heading for the Little Miami River down below. The officer returned to the scene with another policeman a few hours later, and they found scrape marks on the embankment where something had apparently slid down to the river.

Two weeks later, another unnamed Loveland policeman reported a very similar encounter. Driving on the same road, he saw an animal lying in the middle of the pavement, which he thought was either dead or dying after being hit by a car. He got out of his car to clear the animal to the roadside, when suddenly the animal jumped up and the officer saw that it was a strange froglike creature. It began to flee, limping as if it were injured, and headed over the guard rail towards the river. The officer shot at the monster as it went down the embankment, but apparently did not hit it.

Neither of the officers filed an official report of the weird creature, but word of their sightings leaked to the press, and the modern legend of the Loveland Frog was soon spread far and wide. A farmer in Loveland also claimed to see a froglike creature in March 1972. Investigators began to speculate on a connection with the 1955 sighting of reptilian creatures, and the possibility of a secret race of lizard men inhabiting Ohio's rivers. Some have suggested that the officers may have actually seen a Nile monitor lizard or a large iguana, which can be over six feet in length. But if so, these reptiles would have to be escaped from a zoo or otherwise transplanted to the area, since they are not native to the region.

Abnormally large reptiles and reptile men have also been reported in other parts of the country, including the "Lizardman" of Wayne, New Jersey, and the "Giant Lizard" of Milton, Kentucky. The most celebrated successor to the Loveland Frog in recent years was the Lizard Man craze that swept Bishopville, South Carolina, in 1988. A man reported that a 7-foot reptilian beast with red eyes and three-fingered appendages chased his car along a country road at over 40 miles per hour. A large number of other sightings followed, and police officers discovered three-toed tracks. But ultimately, the only hard evidence the Lizard Man left behind was the fattened bank accounts of local bumper sticker and T-shirt vendors.


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mr. E
That's a really neat story, Doppleganger. I'm guessing no one ever caught a photograph of a lizard creature, though, right? sad.gif that would have been cool to see. frankly, if these people really saw what they said they saw, i'm stumped as for an explanation.
antigravity
I wonder if it could have been a monitor lizard
crouton
Would a known species of lizard be active in the winter with snow/ice on the ground? It gets pretty cold in Ohio.

Cool story. Can't imagine what it was.
truth seeker
QUOTE(crouton @ May 15 2006, 01:58 AM) [snapback]1189152[/snapback]

Would a known species of lizard be active in the winter with snow/ice on the ground? It gets pretty cold in Ohio.

i don't know of any species of lizard that would be active in our winter conditions. Also pretty cold is an understatement we had mild winter this year and still had several days below zero and several ocassions where there were acouple of inches of snow on the ground.
frogfish
Reptiles, and especially amphibians go into hibernation during winter under the ice in the Northern States...
Master Sage
New species possibly?
frogfish
It/s nothing more than a myth...Reptiles and Amphibians wouldn't be active thumbsup.gif
Emcee
I don't know guys, but I want a giant wizard frog. Badly.
psyche101
QUOTE(mariachristina @ May 16 2006, 01:11 PM) [snapback]1190668[/snapback]

I don't know guys, but I want a giant wizard frog. Badly.


For............... mellow.gif
Urisk
What do you mean "....For?"!?!? Isn't it obvious!?

I reckon they're Deep Ones, although you rarely see them stray far from Innsmouth... laugh.gif

Maybe they were praying to Father Dagon... In fact, I've not done that in a while...

RKD
draconic chronicler
Obviously, if it is true the creatures were carrying objects (wand?), they are not an escaped pet lizard.

But even if a creature is scaly and looks like a reptile it does not mean it is cold blooded and would be inactive in the cold. Though not proven, it is believed the some dinosaurs were warm blooded. Dinosaurs are not even regular reptiles like cold blooded lizards snakes and turtles, but are "archosaurs" more advanced animals that include birds, crocodilians, pterosaurs and dinosaurs.

There is no reason why a reptile-like archosaur could not have evolved much like human did, and several scientists have voiced theories that if dinos had not been wiped out by the Cretaceous extinction, and intelligent species with human-like attributes could have eventually evolved.

Reptile-like, warm-blooded archosaurs could have evolved on other planets, and they are one of the several classic alien forms reported in UFO accounts. There is some wild speculation such of creatures evolved here too, but are in hiding. This seems too fanciful to me, for such creatures could have wiped out the human race when we were just a bunch of primitive hominids, not to mention absolutely no achaeological evidence to support the existence of such creatures.
kraken
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He claimed to have spotted three bipedal reptilian creatures standing by the side of the road,One of the froglike beings carried some type of bar or wand above its head, and sparks were shooting out of the device.

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As the cruiser's headlights fell on the animal, it rose upright from a crouching position, showing itself to be three or four feet tall with leathery skin and a head like that of a lizard or frog.

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when suddenly the animal jumped up and the officer saw that it was a strange froglike creature. It began to flee, limping as if it were injured.
(I assume this creature was bipedal too)

Well!...I'm not sure whether these creatures sound like the 'Usual Suspects' in the Amphib/Reptile family..sounds more like a bit of genetic manipulation(by what,or whom..i really couldn't guess)..although ..having said that...the bit that bothers me is the froglike creature carrying a bar/wand with sparks coming out of it (now the imagination could really run wild with that one)

p.s. (just curious)..there arn't any secret installations(or military bases) near you, are there?
snuffypuffer
It was Jar Jar Binks holding a roman candle. yes.gif
Urisk
QUOTE(draconic chronicler @ May 16 2006, 12:50 PM) [snapback]1191093[/snapback]

Obviously, if it is true the creatures were carrying objects (wand?), they are not an escaped pet lizard.

But even if a creature is scaly and looks like a reptile it does not mean it is cold blooded and would be inactive in the cold. Though not proven, it is believed the some dinosaurs were warm blooded. Dinosaurs are not even regular reptiles like cold blooded lizards snakes and turtles, but are "archosaurs" more advanced animals that include birds, crocodilians, pterosaurs and dinosaurs.

There is no reason why a reptile-like archosaur could not have evolved much like human did, and several scientists have voiced theories that if dinos had not been wiped out by the Cretaceous extinction, and intelligent species with human-like attributes could have eventually evolved.

Reptile-like, warm-blooded archosaurs could have evolved on other planets, and they are one of the several classic alien forms reported in UFO accounts. There is some wild speculation such of creatures evolved here too, but are in hiding. This seems too fanciful to me, for such creatures could have wiped out the human race when we were just a bunch of primitive hominids, not to mention absolutely no achaeological evidence to support the existence of such creatures.


Yeah, there are a few subtle hints that dinosaurs may have been endothermic (or at least partly homeothermic), such as their gait; how they held their legs (under the bulk of the body as opposed to sprawled out at the sides like modern "cold bloods"), pneumatised bones and the femur/tibia ratio (allowing for an esimate of the possible speed of the animal), so yeah, I believe that the therapods at least were endothermic. I reckon that sauropods had at least the ability to regulate their temperature, even if they weren't endothermic (they wouldn't really need to be since their Volume:Surface Area ratio is high), and I reckon that if they were endothermic, then the reason for their high nostrils and large nasal passages was to house a brain-blood cooling system like modern wildebeest.


QUOTE(snuffypuffer @ May 16 2006, 04:01 PM) [snapback]1191316[/snapback]

It was Jar Jar Binks holding a roman candle. yes.gif


You've no idea how much that made me laugh, Snuffy! laugh.gif rofl.gif laugh.gif

RKD
frogfish
thumbsup.gif Snuffy...that was the best logic I have seen in a while
slurpygloop
Who knows? I've seen articles/debates/etc. regarding DNA manipulation on animals for years and how some of these things supposedly "escaped." A David Icke creature, perhaps?
slurpygloop
Who knows? I've seen articles/debates/etc. regarding DNA manipulation on animals for years and how some of these things supposedly "escaped." A David Icke creature, perhaps?
kraken
QUOTE(~Doppleganger~ @ May 15 2006, 03:57 AM) [snapback]1188929[/snapback]

Here something I found on the Internet:
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Is that it Doppleganger?...Have you gone now?....because i was just wondering what 'Your' thoughts were on your post?...C'mon now..Don't be shy
Daniella2310
QUOTE(truth seeker @ May 15 2006, 02:17 AM) [snapback]1189163[/snapback]

i don't know of any species of lizard that would be active in our winter conditions. Also pretty cold is an understatement we had mild winter this year and still had several days below zero and several ocassions where there were acouple of inches of snow on the ground.

correct! iguanas and all types of lizards and snakes need to be in warm conditions because they are cold blooded (thats why when you have them in cages you need to put a heater/lightbulb inside, so they wont die...i learned this the hard way no.gif R.I.P Mr. Dude)
~Doppleganger~
Im back! tongue.gif

So, maybe it could have been a kind of a bipedal "animal" which have the appearance of a lizard-like animal, but, have warm blood inside of her. Because, I doesn't mean that something or someone that have the same skin as a lizard or a reptilian creature have obligatory (?) cold blood

(Sorry if my post is written in a bad english, but im a French Canadian tongue.gif And I have some difficulty with my english at this time tongue.gif)
HunterII
My Grandparents often told us about a large bipedal reptilian they saw in Arizona many years ago.
Urisk
QUOTE(~Doppleganger~ @ May 22 2006, 03:34 AM) [snapback]1200023[/snapback]

Im back! tongue.gif

So, maybe it could have been a kind of a bipedal "animal" which have the appearance of a lizard-like animal, but, have warm blood inside of her. Because, I doesn't mean that something or someone that have the same skin as a lizard or a reptilian creature have obligatory (?) cold blood

(Sorry if my post is written in a bad english, but im a French Canadian tongue.gif And I have some difficulty with my english at this time tongue.gif)


You see, the integument of an amphibian is really simple with very little in the way of insulation. Reptile skin is also very simple (and very similar to bird's), although it's usually somewhat thicker. Mammalian skin is very thick and fairly complex. It provides insulation, among other things, which is important to heat retention. A "warm-blooded" animal with amphibian-like skin would be in danger suffering from hypothermia a lot I'd say. The skull would be a giveaway.

RKD
Ciraxis
maybe it was crab people? they are always up to something.... they're everywhere.
JeremyGTS
i live pretty close to loveland and i have driven those roads late at night loveland is pretty woodsy with curvy roads with trees everywhere but anyway ive never seen any of thise "frogs" would be pretty cool but ill keep my eyes open
BigfootForever
QUOTE(Ciraxis @ May 23 2006, 12:02 PM) [snapback]1202093[/snapback]

maybe it was crab people? they are always up to something.... they're everywhere.

thats exactly what they were. thumbsup.gif
foxgirl
If it is a possible mutation, how did it happen and if it was caused by humans, why and who would do it. hmm.gif
frogfish
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If it is a possible mutation

It's not...the word mutation gets thrown around too much...Xmen isn't real, kids.
coldethyl
QUOTE(frogfish @ Jul 6 2006, 07:40 AM) [snapback]1259266[/snapback]

It's not...the word mutation gets thrown around too much...Xmen isn't real, kids.


Shouldn't you say, "Xmen isn't real, infants" since you're a kid yourself??? huh.gif
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