This is the only case of Human Mutilation that I have found that is supposed to have been done by Aliens or UFO's.



the blurb that accompanies this is:

"Found on the banks of the Guaraparinga Reservoir, Brasil, September1988".

What does everyone think?

Image is a little blurred and hard to see... but Ive seen it somewhere else before and  personally i don`t know why anyone would look like that from anything humanly normal.... so...  i can`t explain it....

Intresting stuff Al, thanks

[blue]Gruesome.

Aww, poor man. And he'd only gone out for a pint of milk....

[/blue]

Mutilated yes, but humans are quite capable of doing this - what indication is there that a UFO or aliens were involved?

Murdered, or accidentaly drowned - is this the sort of damage a human body would sustain if submersed in water for long periods - especially in a hot country?

Agh, poor chap. I'd tend to agree that theres nothing that links this man's mutilation to UFOs or aliens.

( Unless theres more of a story behind it that is ).

:s5

For more on this story read Alien Investigation by Tony Dodd.

That is a neat picture.  :s01

can u give us a synopsis?

This is what it says in the book page 213 onwards:

QUOTE

"The mutilated body, of a man, was found near the Guarapiranga Reservoir in Brazil on 29 September 1988, and as a matter of course photographs were taken of the corpse.  A police technician, Sergio Rubens, later gave copies of these photographs to his cousin, Dr Goes Rubens, who he thought would be interested, medically, in he way the corpse had been mutilated.  Appreciating at least partly the significance of the pictures, Dr Rubens showed them to a friend, Encarnacion Zapata Garcia, who he knew was interested in ufology.  She immediately recognised the similarity of the wounds to those she had seen in animal mutilations. When the police were approached for more information, the head of the investigation, Dr Cuenca, surprisingly opened his files.  Among the papers in the file was the original autopsy report, written by forensic pathologists who had no previous knowledge of mutilations. There were many striking observations: 1.  Although the victim had been dead for forty-eight to seventy-two hours, there was no sign of it being eaten by animals or starting to rot, as would be expected. 2.  There was no smell. 3.  Bleeding from the wounds had been minimal. 4.  The lips and flesh from the face had been cut away. 5.  The eyes, ears and toungue had been removed. 6.  Neta round holes, one to one and a half inches in diameter, had been made on the shoulders and arms, head, stomach and anus, and tissue and muscle had been extracted.  The holes had not been ade by bullets. 7.  The major organs within the chest cavity had ben removed. 8.  The navel and intestines had been removed, a perfect small hole having been made through which extensive digestive organs were extracted. 9.  The scrotum, but not the penis, had been removed, and all public hair had disappeared. 10.  The rectum had been cored out. 11.  Despite the devastating mutilatios, there was no sign that the victim had been bound or strugled in any way."

 I don't know about anyone else, but I'm curious as to how this was accomplished;

"7.  The major organs within the chest cavity had been removed."  :o

 Would that have been thru the 'hole' made in the navel (maybe they 'roped' the heart and lungs with part of the intestines) or *shudder* the 'cored' rectum?

 Having never heard of Tony Dodd, I searched for a little information on him. Seems he is quite the animal & human mutilation expert, even though his only profession was as a police officer.

"There's no doubt about the identity of the UK's most prominent abduction researcher - it's Tony Dodd of Quest International, much of whose work appears in the columns of UFO Magazine and its sister publication The Unopened Files, and who often appears on the UK lecture circuit talking about animal mutilations.

  Let's look at the evidence of the beliefs of the man who has undoubtedly had the greatest influence in forming opinion about alien abduction and mutilation in this country, and who is held by many abroad to speak with authority on both subjects. In a letter to veteran UFO and Flying Triangle investigator Omar Fowler, published in the March/April 1998 edition of Fowler's magazine OVNI, Dodd writes

"I have no doubt whatsoever that some of the flying triangles witnessed over the past few years are of terrestrial origin. I am fairly certain also that some of the huge triangular craft seen in Scotland and in the Arctic Circle both entering and leaving the sea are extraterrestrial. My information from highly placed sources indicates that there is without doubt liaison going on between a race of ETs and our own people. There is also substantial information that another race of ET with malevolent intent is visiting us. It would appear that we are being given advanced technology by the friendly ET to enable us to defend against the unfriendly, hence the new generation of triangular aircraft. The weapons in use appear to be highly advanced particle beam weapons which have been used with great success.

 This also confirms the reason why so many huge underground facilities have been appearing all over the globe when we are supposed to be living in a peace time environment. Of course the animal and human mutilation situation is part of all this.

With regard to your request for the verses which I received telepathically. As I said this was one of many messages I received . . "

 Tony Dodd agrees that being abducted should be regarded . . as the start of a spiritual journey. He has recorded the messages that he 'receives' in his brain from alien intelligences, and the recordings have been used to bring a great deal of spiritual comfort to many people, particularly to patients in hospices who are facing up to the end of their time on Earth.

 Tony now feels that his initial experience of the UFO was a deliberate introduction engineered by the aliens. He believes he has been regularly abducted for many years . . chosen to pass on messages promoting world peace, and greater understanding of the cosmos. The messages 'appear' in his brain, and are so unlike any of his own, familiar, down-to-earth thought patterns that he feels sure they are planted there by benevolent aliens . . . Tony does not believe all aliens are benevolent, nor does he think the earth is simply being buzzed by one particular race of space beings, but by several. He subscribes to the view that world governments are involved in cover-ups, that they know far more about alien activity than they admit to the populace at large."

 Seems Tony has the inside track to far more than just 'reliable' information regarding animal and human mutilations.  :s04

Magikman  :sg

 

[blue]Just a thought:

...when doctors go to take a DNA sample from a 'living' human being, one of the easiest ways is to use a cottonbud to swab the interior of the cheek (if all I see on CSI is to be believed)...

Maybe someone is collecting DNA and their way is to cut off the lips and cheeks and facial skin to get big samples of the stuff?
[/blue] :sc

:s9 Or going on that theme maybe it was a cloning experiment that went wrong????

That was the first thing I thought when I read Loonboy's reply.  :s01

I think this was done by a (so called) human. Unfortunately there are some really sick people in the world, and to blame UFO's is just picking on the aliens!

PurpleStuart- Exactly my point! Maybe it wasn't any paranormal entity involved in that greusome picture Satanists are to blame also, such as they lure people in and then who knows .... what they do to the victim..

MM - yep sounds like another wacko to me. These 'investigators' are all doing fine proving their credentials until they start talking about their telepathic mind links with aliens. It just goes a bit David Icke from there on in...  
Aliens exist but not anywhere near here. Even at the Fortean Times Unconvention there was a talk about "The death of Ufology" the general opinion that UFO's are just Unidentified not piloted by aliens and abductions are just fabrications or delusions.
Yes i know, i haven't finished my report on the unconvention. I will i promise!

now I'm freaked out :s4

What I don`t understand about this Tony Dodd guys is that he says he receives telepathetic messeges from aliens and uses these to " bring a great deal of spiritual comfort to many people, "

But then he says there from the bad aliens...??? Now isn`t that an Oxy moron?  "The messages 'appear' in his brain, and are so unlike any of his own, familiar, down-to-earth thought patterns that he feels sure they are planted there by benevolent aliens"

He just doesn`t make any sense.

That picture is pretty gruesome

I'm wary of anyone who claims to have telepathic contact with anything. I admit, I'm a skeptic, but that's a little too much to believe. Now, whoever, or whatever, is coring rectums...that's just wrong. How would a rectum be cored anyway? Isn't it a tube? Man. Oh yeah, I just figured it out. Still... that's just wrong.

Looks like someone needs a tooth brush lol.

QUOTE (Althalus @ Apr 21 2002, 09:34 PM)

There were many striking observations: 1.  Although the victim had been dead for forty-eight to seventy-two hours, there was no sign of it being eaten by animals or starting to rot, as would be expected. 2.  There was no smell. 3.  Bleeding from the wounds had been minimal. 4.  The lips and flesh from the face had been cut away. 5.  The eyes, ears and toungue had been removed. 6.  Neta round holes, one to one and a half inches in diameter, had been made on the shoulders and arms, head, stomach and anus, and tissue and muscle had been extracted.  The holes had not been ade by bullets. 7.  The major organs within the chest cavity had ben removed. 8.  The navel and intestines had been removed, a perfect small hole having been made through which extensive digestive organs were extracted. 9.  The scrotum, but not the penis, had been removed, and all public hair had disappeared. 10.  The rectum had been cored out. 11.  Despite the devastating mutilatios, there was no sign that the victim had been bound or strugled in any way."[/QUOTE]

Going number by number

1:
If there are no organs, no smell and no bugs/animals or decay, just how did they manage to determine that the victim has been dead 48 - 72 hours?

2:
Fresh dead bodies don't smell all that much. Neither would one that is fozen.

3:
Wounds were post-mortem

4 - 11:
So what?

All that we really learn from this is that someone died, had a bunch of body parts removed and was later found.

There are some startling omissions from this report however. Why is there no cause of death? They made a wild speculation about TOD, why not the cause? Why no mention of bones or teeth? I'm sure the book wasn't published minutes after this happened, why didn't the author bother to follow up?

At very least what is presented in this book is a heavily edited account of what was found. I would suspect that this is a sensationalized report of a possible murder and once the UFO angle was exhausted (read as disproved by more plausible evidence) the author moved on.

THIS IS A POLICE BULLTIN, AN ALIEN KILLED A MAN, BUT A MAN CAN KILL A MAN WITH THE SAME RESULTS, THAT IS ALL!

god the poor man.that must have been horrible for his family to hear ugh wut if sumbody had to identify him like his kid or sumthing.if humans did that it
....its thought that aliens did it?that must mean nobody was arrested and that person is still out there god i feel horrible

hmm they removed all his 'public' hair. So they left the private hair? hehe

His lips looked quite peeled back (might just be the angle, i dont know), and i know there is this type of poison that makes your lips fold back. I thought it could be a suicide, but he looks pretty shocked and in pain. But then where did the whole alien thing come in? Sure, hes mutilated, but people do this too

hm..... nice picture

poor man ..
How come he was abducted ..
Thanks to God it was not me

I hope the authorities in Brazil aren't all going "yep, that's alien mutilation, that" and then leaving it there.

I know a doctor who told me about this patient of his who had some quite alarming psychological problems, one of which was the belief that he was a space cop and it was his sworn duty to pickle women so he could take them back to his home planet.

The human mind is capable of a lot more depravity, for one reason or another, than most of us probably suspect.

And what kind of alien would want the whole rectum for a tissue sample? You don't get zoologists saying "oh hooray, we've just discovered a new species of monkey. Right, out with it's rectum."

And these guys are supposed to be vastly technologically superior?

He looks like a burn victim, since the missing lips are done rather crudely to have been done by aliens.

it's strange that these are the exact wounds that cows and cats and dogs but this is the only photo i'm able to find of human mutilation

Poor Guy

Those pesky aliens, always mutilating people, coring rectums, and then blaming it all on the poor satanists, who only want to sacrifice their cats in peace and quiet.

Did anyone notice that that picture looks exactly like the photo of the chupacabra carcass?

Nope, not me.

look up chupacabra on google image search that picture is the fenomeno one ok