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We've talked about her before. She was a nasty little piece of work and very young for a killer.

THAT WAS THE MOST F***** UP THING I’VE EVER READ!

Children these days..

i have an M on my stomache, don't know what it's from though.

What? Please explain....

That was crazy. children of the corn type s***.

Those little girls were insane...

One of the murdered toddlers had an 'M' carved in his stomach. That's obviously what dream hunter is referring to.

OK, so I have only read as far as the first paragraph.... And already I have to say something.....Who the hell in their right mind lets a 3 year old boy out to play all by himself....?

Ok... Going back to read the rest now...

Yes, but why is he saying he has one on his stomach??



You have to remember that was a different time. I remember when I was growing up my brother had the run of the neighborhood at age 5. I don't agree with it though. I never let my kids run wild. People are just so stupid.

edit: to bold the word his.

"Yes, but why is he saying he has one on his stomach??"

Only dream hunter can explain that, but I'm assuming he thought he was being funny.

Mary Flora Bell was one messed up girl and so was Norma. I'm actually surprised that they let Norma go without much fuss. Also, I hate it when criminals profit by writing their autobiographies Mary was even granted anonymity. Sometimes I feel our judicial system is too lenient. We need tighter laws!

If anyone, it was Mary's mother who was responsible for these crimes. Check Mary's personal history and it becomes a hell of a lot easier to understand how such a little girl could become a sadistic killer.

It starts with her mother trying various methods to kill her own daughter from the moment she was born and keeps going until she's selling five year old Mary to her gentlemen clients for extra profit.

Such circumstances don't excuse the tragic deaths of two innocent toddlers but all those responsible should have been held accountable. Three tragedies could have been prevented if someone had only stopped her mother's endless abuse.

Do you have any links?

I'd love to read that!

why was the M a N unil someoen added a 4th slice?

I imagine because Mary's friend Norma took part in the killings, or at least the mutilation of the body. Norma must have carved an "N" for herself and then Mary added the 4th slice to turn it into an "M".

Ethyl it tells about Mary's mother towards the end of the Crime Library story.
Here: Making Mary Bell
And Here: "Accidental" Overdoses
Enjoy!

^ Thanks! I didn't have any links, I studied her case (amongst many) when I wrote a thesis on child murders in 2004. All my internet sources are stored on my old computer and the rest of my information came from books, newspapers, court scripts etc.
If you want to read up on Mary's case or are just interested in the topic in general, a good book to read is "When Kids Kill" by Jonathan Paul. It's informative and well-written, citing cases from all around the world and many different eras. It really is an eye-opening piece of text.

You are welcome. Though the credit for the links really belongs to Rising-Spirits who started this interesting thread

And thank you for the book recommendation. I'm always looking for good true crime books to read.
Another creepy child murderer to read about is Luke Woodham in "Child's Prey". It is about the Pearl, Mississippi school shooting.
It has parts in there about how he tortures his dog, I was in tears literally.

Wow. O.o

My cousin told me about that book. He told me it was a great book.

Thanks! It's been a while since I've read that from the crime library! I should have looked before I opened my big mouth!

This is a very shocking case, from the start of Mary's abuse by her own clearly insane mother, to the calm way they killed that little toddler and spoke of it afterwards.

Some children are born evil, others are made that way like she was, but the end result is chilling.

Just read the whole story, that was indeed scary! How a child is brought up is very important, but luckily few turn out to be monsters like Mary...weird...

Children can be so crule .

i've read this in crime library. can't believe that such a young girl would have a criminal mind coz young girls should have been preoccupied with dolls and other girl stuff. just unbelievable

I've known about this case for years now. In my opinion she should have neeever been released. Even if she has "changed now" that doesn't give her the right to get out of jail like she never killed those people before, especially the first baby she killed. That's just not right.

What,shes been relased!It reminds me of that case where the 2 teenage lads killed that boy...

Sounds like an early Indigo Child.

her past should be taken into consideration, im sure her prison time while she was younger then most people who end up in prison would probably effect her more.

i think its not fair that her mother never got sentenced for anything even though it was mostly her fault. i dont even see where she got child abuse charges or anything.

She was definetly a messed up child. I can't believe they released her. Hopefully she has changed. Her mother should have played a part in being charged cuz of the abuse she put on her child.

Its sickening that both of these girls are free today, they should both be locked up in an insane asylum for life.

She even has a daughter herself, I feel really sorry for her daughter, finding out your mother is a sicko has got to be traumatic

Interesting topic. Will read into it, thanks for posting.

I'm not sure if this genuine Mary flora bell, or an obsessed pathetic avid fan, but it's sick, friggin sick!!

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...iendid=77273814

I'm not sure if this genuine Mary flora bell, or an obsessed pathetic avid fan, but it's sick, friggin sick!!

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...iendid=77273814

If that is really her, she doesn't mind announcing to the world what she did. Wonder if it is true the first job she got was at a day care??

That's not her, that's just some weird serial killer fan culture. You know, like those kids that pretend to be vampires?

thats one bad kid!!!!!

This is not Mary Bell . Since she was granted anonymity, she lives under a diffeent name. And for god's sake guys she was the one who asked for the damn anonymity, so the least she would want is to call attention to herself once again, like when the book came out. The person who has this myspace is a fan of sirial killers and all that sh**.
Don't get too fool!

Personally I think her release was the best thing that the judicial system did. Since they found her guilty the brush her aside with the name of evil child posted on her forhead. They should have given her some mental treatment like the did to Norma. I think the release from prison was when her real punishment really began, because she had missed so much. And it was then when she realized what she did, she says so in her book. She says there is not one day that goes by and look at her daughter and think about what she did to the family of Martin and Brian, she took them away form their families forever.

I read about Mary Bell in crime libary a while ago. At the begining I really thought she deserve the worst. But then as I kept on reading, I began to feel some compassion for her. I read the two books by Gitta Sereny, the Case of Mary Bell and Cries Unheard, is my favorite book, and I think you guys should read it before saying anything.
I can't think bad about Mary, as hard as i push myself to hate her, the thought of her being a little girl being hold down by her mother while men would touch her on her private parts and sexually molest her makes feel terribly sad for her.
"The acts of a small child, however terrible they were, can only be seen in the context of childhood" Gitta Sereny. There is a difference between, Mary, the child she was, and the mother and adult she is now.
To all those people who say, serial killer are born, I don't agree with them, Mary Bell shows us that one is able to change, and that we as human being are born good.

It really makes you wonder how some people are allowed to breed. Mary's mother should have been charged with something and not allowed any contact with her. I can feel sorry for mary but at the same time I can't help but wonder how an 11 year old can do something so callous. It just boggles the mind.

You mean the people i like to call idiots

Mary Flora Bell was a Saint compared to Jesse Pomeroy! http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers...y/pomeroy/1.htm

Oh yes, Pomeroy... Now in all honesty, even with all the study I did on children who kill children, I could never find anything even approaching a reason for Pomeroy to act the way he did. He was a nasty piece of work, plain and simple.

I don't believe the site could possibly be the production of Mary Bell....but the creator's certainly no "fan" of hers either!

Do we know if Mary Bell ever saw the American feature film THE BAD SEED? Mary's crimes paralleled the fictional little miscreant's murders too closely for pure coincidence.

Very twisted little child if you ask me i saw a programme about her the other week

Thats one crazy little girl