Full Version: Smarter cats or dogs
Try not to start a fire war over this.
Alrite, I have to say that cats are just too smart to care or listen to what humans have to say. They understand but just don't care. It is those reasons why I hate cats, damned snobs, and love dogs, stupid beasts. 
It depends upon how one defines "smarter". The intelligence of an animal can be viewed as instinctive, adaptive, and working. Generally, I'd say that both cats and dogs have good instinctive intelligence. Both species are also quite adaptive. However, dogs do have a more complex social order than that of cats. Dogs most certainly have a greater working intelligence, ever try to train a cat! Generally, I'd say that dogs are smarter, but cats are more self reliant. As for which one makes a better pet...it simply depends what you want, both can make wonderful pets!
Cat's... 
I've been around a lot of cats and dogs in my life, I own 2 dogs right now, and it's really hard to tell. If you really watch them, they are both intelligent creatures. Granted not all of them are the brightest of the bunch but they seem to be pretty much even. The only things cats really have on dogs is their vocal cords which can produce more sounds. But I voted for dogs because I love dogs more.
Lilly, I tend to agree with most of what you said.
Kratos, I wish you could hear the sounds my Malamute produces...he reaches octaves that I never imagined a dog could reach.
Kratos, I wish you could hear the sounds my Malamute produces...he reaches octaves that I never imagined a dog could reach.
QUOTE(Michelle @ May 23 2006, 04:31 PM) [snapback]1202470[/snapback]
Lilly, I tend to agree with most of what you said.
Kratos, I wish you could hear the sounds my Malamute produces...he reaches octaves that I never imagined a dog could reach.
I know dogs can have a good range of vocals. I have to listen to my dogs howl all day long, whine and my female dog she can go up and down in her howls to let me know she's happy, pissed, hungry or whatever now. 
She even got my other dog howling more now and he's a bit rough yet from barking all his life. They're both pure bred siberian huskys. 
dogs. just because they listen doesnt mean there stupid it has to do with pack mentality. a dog can learn may commands easily and have been proven that they can understand a complelt human sentacne and respond to it. a cat however will not listen unless there is an incentaive and even then it taken far more time to get it to actualy do anything befroe it happens. dogs being wolves need to learn to work and function together. a cat does not need that and relies on more instinct then a dog does.
I would say dogs as a breed are cleverer.The range of work that the different breeds can do is amazing, You have herding dogs i.e english sheep dogs, collies, australian heelers etc that all farmers who breed sheep and cattle rely on. Terriers for ridding rats and other vermin and hunting small game. You have retrievers, labradors etc for retrieving game. Large protective breeds which are great guard dogs and the best deterrent to burglars, even a small breed dog can make at the least a good burglar alarm! Some breeds like the newfoundlands are brilliant swimmers and make worthy lifesavers they are renowned for saving lifes on the water and the list could continue show me cats that could do anything on the list (bar kill vermin) and i`d be shocked. therefor dogs are clever and in my opinion a much more productive creature, deffinatly "mans best friend".
The way I see it cats are smarter for the simple fact that they DON'T get stuck working for anyone doing anything except maybe eating mice.
You'll never see a cat pulling a sled across the frozen tundra. You will find a cat curled up next to a fireplace taking it's third nap for the day...
...So who's smarter?
You'll never see a cat pulling a sled across the frozen tundra. You will find a cat curled up next to a fireplace taking it's third nap for the day...
...So who's smarter?
QUOTE(Fluffybunny @ May 24 2006, 01:41 AM) [snapback]1202733[/snapback]
The way I see it cats are smarter for the simple fact that they DON'T get stuck working for anyone doing anything except maybe eating mice.
You'll never see a cat pulling a sled across the frozen tundra. You will find a cat curled up next to a fireplace taking it's third nap for the day...
...So who's smarter?
Yes but dogs LIKE to work so as well as being clever there also grafters , oh and ever heard of a cat sniffing out mines? or going to war like they did with the romans etc? or sniffing out drugs at airports and clubs? no? thought not, being idle cats who sleep most the day don't sound clever to me.
I said cats...don't ask me why.
if cats are so smart how come they didnt invnt a can opener my dog once ripped open the dog food bag. stupid cats with there loud music and smoking Marijuana. Hey cats. YOU GEAT A JOB!
Cat are smarter.. dog stay out.. cats cute and have nice melody voice to attract their owner. We always fall in false attraction and sweet voice..
Dog is honest.. it stay out to save us. who save us.. we care less.
Dog is honest.. it stay out to save us. who save us.. we care less.
People just think cats are smarter because they won't do anything people ask them to do, that's not smart, that just stubborn.
Is that even debatable?
Obviously, dogs are much smarter than cats. No comparison actually.
Dogs can be trained to do a variety of things. Right from being helpful to their masters, down to helping police in criminal investigations. They have an amazing sniffing sense. Some dogs have been trained to trace out cancerous tissues in a human body that even the most advanced technology can't. Beat that. They are also very social and responsible animals.
Cats on the other hand can be trained to do almost nothing. They are just lazy selfish creatures. There are about 10 stray cats around my apartment and they always steal food from my house, the minute I leave a window open unattended.
A cat's laziness and lack of ability doesn't exactly sound smart to me.
One more thing...if a dog and a cat were to fight, it doesn't exactly take rocket science to figure who'd win, does it? lol
Obviously, dogs are much smarter than cats. No comparison actually.
Dogs can be trained to do a variety of things. Right from being helpful to their masters, down to helping police in criminal investigations. They have an amazing sniffing sense. Some dogs have been trained to trace out cancerous tissues in a human body that even the most advanced technology can't. Beat that. They are also very social and responsible animals.
Cats on the other hand can be trained to do almost nothing. They are just lazy selfish creatures. There are about 10 stray cats around my apartment and they always steal food from my house, the minute I leave a window open unattended.
A cat's laziness and lack of ability doesn't exactly sound smart to me.
One more thing...if a dog and a cat were to fight, it doesn't exactly take rocket science to figure who'd win, does it? lol
QUOTE(Bone_Collector @ May 24 2006, 04:34 AM) [snapback]1203038[/snapback]
Is that even debatable?
Obviously, dogs are much smarter than cats. No comparison actually.
Dogs can be trained to do a variety of things. Right from being helpful to their masters, down to helping police in criminal investigations. They have an amazing sniffing sense. Some dogs have been trained to trace out cancerous tissues in a human body that even the most advanced technology can't; beat that. They are also very social and responsible
animals.
Cats on the other hand can be trained to do almost nothing. They are just lazy selfish creatures. There are around 10 stray cats around my apartment and they always steal food from my house, the minute I leave a window open unattended.
A cat's laziness and lack of ability doesn't exactly sound smart to me.
One more thing...if a dog and a cat were to fight, it doesn't exactly take rocket science to figure who'd win, does it? lol
Mmmm.. you need to visit my house... my cats (there are three of them)... work in a pack like system and have cornerd MANY a dog... and yes.. big dogs.. one was a female Rotweiler that I was sitting for... I heard her yelping and went running and found her cornered in my bathroom.. with three kittys hissing and running at her... they never actaully touched her.. but boy was she scared!!
Three cats against one dog? Maybe...but one average sized fully grown dog against a fully grown cat of any size...no competition at all. The cat will be masaccred. Imagine what a pack of dogs can do.
I understand some people like cats as pets but we're speaking of smartness and ability here.
I understand some people like cats as pets but we're speaking of smartness and ability here.
No dog can do anything to a LION.
lol. Dogs are more obiedient and very loving, smart, and "mans best friend".
Cats on the other hand are more rebellious, hunt immaculately, he/she knows your gonna feed em again, so why obey?
EDIT: Cats are smarter than Dogs.
lol. Dogs are more obiedient and very loving, smart, and "mans best friend".
Cats on the other hand are more rebellious, hunt immaculately, he/she knows your gonna feed em again, so why obey?
EDIT: Cats are smarter than Dogs.
smartness?
well, it would seem people are merely defining intelligence in terms of qualities they prefer.
now, pound for pound, a cat is more powerful than a dog, period. THis stems from the evolution of the animals. Dogs being pack animals are not built to single=handedly take down prey where cats are. On average, a cat (not just domestic) can singley take down prey three times its own weight.
Domestic cats can work in groups quite well when necessistated.
I would not consider the ease with which an animal is dominated and condtioned a measure of intelligence.
Historically, do not forget that cats were used as hunting aides in the east long before the domestication of wolves began in the west.
Some of this discussion is pointless though since when comparing domestic cats to domestic dogs you are comparing the least evolved/"stupid" descendents of their ancestors for both.
well, it would seem people are merely defining intelligence in terms of qualities they prefer.
now, pound for pound, a cat is more powerful than a dog, period. THis stems from the evolution of the animals. Dogs being pack animals are not built to single=handedly take down prey where cats are. On average, a cat (not just domestic) can singley take down prey three times its own weight.
Domestic cats can work in groups quite well when necessistated.
I would not consider the ease with which an animal is dominated and condtioned a measure of intelligence.
Historically, do not forget that cats were used as hunting aides in the east long before the domestication of wolves began in the west.
Some of this discussion is pointless though since when comparing domestic cats to domestic dogs you are comparing the least evolved/"stupid" descendents of their ancestors for both.
QUOTE(hyperactive @ May 23 2006, 10:35 PM) [snapback]1203066[/snapback]
smartness?
well, it would seem people are merely defining intelligence in terms of qualities they prefer.
now, pound for pound, a cat is more powerful than a dog, period. THis stems from the evolution of the animals. Dogs being pack animals are not built to single=handedly take down prey where cats are. On average, a cat (not just domestic) can singley take down prey three times its own weight.
Domestic cats can work in groups quite well when necessistated.
I would not consider the ease with which an animal is dominated and condtioned a measure of intelligence.
Historically, do not forget that cats were used as hunting aides in the east long before the domestication of wolves began in the west.
Some of this discussion is pointless though since when comparing domestic cats to domestic dogs you are comparing the least evolved/"stupid" descendents of their ancestors for both.
LOL!
I love it!
lol I believe we are discussing domestic cats and dogs in this thread though.
Personally, I'm more of a cat-person than a dog-person, but whether one is smarter than the other, I don't know. They are two different species after all, so we probably shouldn't judge the intelligence of one by the standars of the other.
Cats can be trained too though, you just have to be patient and use different methods than you would with a dog.
Cats can be trained too though, you just have to be patient and use different methods than you would with a dog.
Dogs...you can train a dog much easier than a cat....how many cats do you know are police cats, help the blind ect? :w00t:Ohh not to forget...a dog is more loyal than a cat...a cat will stay with you..but if it finds it can get food else where it may stay away
Definitely dogs I'd say although cats aint stupid either.
Dogs being more loyal than cats.., that depends on the cat...
Some cats don't care much about people certainly, but it often has a lot to do with how you 'raise' the cat from when you get it. Just about any cat that I have had, has grown quite attached to at least one person in the family.
Take the youngest of the two cats I have now for example-- she comes running to greet me and play just about the moment I go outside. Both she and the oldest cat enjoys going for walks(without leashes too), as long as I don't go too far from the house.
Some cats don't care much about people certainly, but it often has a lot to do with how you 'raise' the cat from when you get it. Just about any cat that I have had, has grown quite attached to at least one person in the family.
Take the youngest of the two cats I have now for example-- she comes running to greet me and play just about the moment I go outside. Both she and the oldest cat enjoys going for walks(without leashes too), as long as I don't go too far from the house.
Dogs are slaves.
Cats are royalty.
You order a dog. He complies, that is about it.
A cat you request and if you have done it correctly he might grant your request.
A dog eats his own poop.
A cat buries it.
If you are staving a dog will kill his own food but won't share it with you.
A cat will bring you food. You might not like mouse but it’s the thought that counts.
If you go down and can't get up the dog might try to get help.
A cat will watch you die, morn your death, then go find another human to enslave.
Cats are much smarter by my standards of smart.
Cats are royalty.
You order a dog. He complies, that is about it.
A cat you request and if you have done it correctly he might grant your request.
A dog eats his own poop.
A cat buries it.
If you are staving a dog will kill his own food but won't share it with you.
A cat will bring you food. You might not like mouse but it’s the thought that counts.
If you go down and can't get up the dog might try to get help.
A cat will watch you die, morn your death, then go find another human to enslave.
Cats are much smarter by my standards of smart.
QUOTE(Kaknelson @ May 24 2006, 05:32 AM) [snapback]1203065[/snapback]
No dog can do anything to a LION.
apparently u do not know ur dog breeds Rhodesian Ridgeback look them up. they were the reason lions started to loose thre hold on africa.
Dogs > Cats
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Dogs are slaves.
Cats are royalty.
You order a dog. He complies, that is about it.
A cat you request and if you have done it correctly he might grant your request.
A dog eats his own poop.
A cat buries it.
If you are staving a dog will kill his own food but won't share it with you.
A cat will bring you food. You might not like mouse but it’s the thought that counts.
If you go down and can't get up the dog might try to get help.
A cat will watch you die, morn your death, then go find another human to enslave.
Cats are much smarter by my standards of smart
Cats are royalty.
You order a dog. He complies, that is about it.
A cat you request and if you have done it correctly he might grant your request.
A dog eats his own poop.
A cat buries it.
If you are staving a dog will kill his own food but won't share it with you.
A cat will bring you food. You might not like mouse but it’s the thought that counts.
If you go down and can't get up the dog might try to get help.
A cat will watch you die, morn your death, then go find another human to enslave.
Cats are much smarter by my standards of smart
LOL
QUOTE(Darkwind @ May 24 2006, 03:02 PM) [snapback]1203387[/snapback]
Dogs are slaves.
Cats are royalty.
You order a dog. He complies, that is about it.
A cat you request and if you have done it correctly he might grant your request.
A dog eats his own poop.
A cat buries it.
If you are staving a dog will kill his own food but won't share it with you.
A cat will bring you food. You might not like mouse but it’s the thought that counts.
If you go down and can't get up the dog might try to get help.
A cat will watch you die, morn your death, then go find another human to enslave.
Cats are much smarter by my standards of smart.
The Queen of England would say her corgies are indeed royal LOL
As for cat and dog poop....you can get rid of the smell of dog poop easy...but try getting rid of the smell of a cats poop/pee its needs a mirical
And thank god dogs dont leave half chewed up vermon on my door step LOL
QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ May 24 2006, 08:52 PM) [snapback]1203906[/snapback]
And thank god dogs dont leave half chewed up vermon on my door step LOL
Ya they just went out and rolled in it. mmmmm... good smell.
LOL
QUOTE(Darkwind @ May 24 2006, 11:03 PM) [snapback]1203989[/snapback]
Ya they just went out and rolled in it. mmmmm... good smell.
LOL
LOL they roll in it for a reason to hide their scent LOL its a known fact
I own a Springer Spainal...those dogs are normally used as gun dogs and police dogs ...I live in the country and I have lost count the amount of times when I have gave Charlie a bath and the sec I take him for a stroll...he dashes accross the fields and rolls around to hide his scent...I have seen him go after rabbits, birds ect..and catch a few LOL
Springers are smart. I had a dog crossed between a springer and shepard. He was the best dog I ever owned. Wish I still had him. I had trouble teaching him to fetch. After he brought the stick back about three times on the fouth throw he would sit there and cocked his head and look like he was saying, "If you want the darn thing quit throwing it away." That was the end of the game. I would say that dog was every bit a smart as a cat. Saved me from stepping on a snake a few times.
ok just for the record i had a 95 pound akita she was a hunter and a hlaf we never unted with her but if she got out she was guarantted to bring back something. raccons and possums mostly but there were two deer and a few rabbits too. i was sure one day shed bring home a bear lol. or my saint bernard killed a ground hog and tried bring it to the house for us. tossed that over thne fence lol my neighboor never susoected it was me lol thats what u get when u complain my dog barks to much lol
QUOTE(Darkwind @ May 25 2006, 03:26 AM) [snapback]1204324[/snapback]
Springers are smart. I had a dog crossed between a springer and shepard. He was the best dog I ever owned. Wish I still had him. I had trouble teaching him to fetch. After he brought the stick back about three times on the fouth throw he would sit there and cocked his head and look like he was saying, "If you want the darn thing quit throwing it away." That was the end of the game. I would say that dog was every bit a smart as a cat. Saved me from stepping on a snake a few times.
This is my Springer Charlie...mad as ever..likes to chase rabbits and birds but kinna fears the swans in the lake cuz they hisssssss at him..so he is a lil apprehensive on diving in after the swans LOL although he would just love to!!!
I still think dogs are smarter but cats are better kick boxers LOL
In my opinion, it entirely depends. I know some REALLY stupid cats and some REALLY stupid dogs, but I also know some really smart ones. Just like there are really smart humans, and really stupid ones. I think they both even out, but since dogs are loyal pack animals, they seem to be thought of as stupid.
QUOTE(robbieb @ May 24 2006, 09:06 AM) [snapback]1203499[/snapback]
apparently u do not know ur dog breeds Rhodesian Ridgeback look them up. they were the reason lions started to loose thre hold on africa.
My auntie has one of those
, but I don't like it because it attacked me. 
Well a dog can smell out bombs, detect land mines, smell out drugs (Family Guy, lol
),save a drowning person, pull a sled and retrieve a duck you shot.But I put cat because dogs scare me.
QUOTE(MJB222 @ May 26 2006, 02:33 AM) [snapback]1205607[/snapback]
My auntie has one of those
, but I don't like it because it attacked me. Well a dog can smell out bombs, detect land mines, smell out drugs (Family Guy, lol
),save a drowning person, pull a sled and retrieve a duck you shot.But I put cat because dogs scare me.
A dog can sense if you are scared of it thats why some with growl at you LOL
I read in another thread about meat..you said you like to hunt and eat your kill...so I imagined you had a dog with you....like the one I have I posted his pic above..springers are used mostly as gun dogs and love to go hunting...but as you are scared of dogs I take it you go a hunting alone lol
My 8 month old baby girl loves dogs..when they bark at her she goes into fits of laughter
QUOTE(robbieb @ May 23 2006, 08:46 PM) [snapback]1202837[/snapback]
if cats are so smart how come they didnt invnt a can opener my dog once ripped open the dog food bag. stupid cats with there loud music and smoking Marijuana. Hey cats. YOU GEAT A JOB!
This post makes absolutely no sense unless the poster was smoking with the cats. Then it has perfect clarity.
QUOTE(Luvkittys7 @ May 26 2006, 02:56 AM) [snapback]1205629[/snapback]
This post makes absolutely no sense unless the poster was smoking with the cats. Then it has perfect clarity.
But you have to put in a lil consideration ...like his age..he may be just a kid himself and hasnt grew up yet and is only trying to understand things...I picked that up from a lot of his posts.....not saying it to be funny...after all its a family forum and kids of all ages post...he could be one of them...*shrugs*
PLZ note the above is not saying for sure he is a kid...I am only guessing...not putting him down...
QUOTE(Nxt2Hvn @ May 23 2006, 11:43 PM) [snapback]1203046[/snapback]
Mmmm.. you need to visit my house... my cats (there are three of them)... work in a pack like system and have cornerd MANY a dog... and yes.. big dogs.. one was a female Rotweiler that I was sitting for... I heard her yelping and went running and found her cornered in my bathroom.. with three kittys hissing and running at her... they never actaully touched her.. but boy was she scared!!
This amuses me.
2 cats sit on the top of my yard fence LOL (its quite high) and tease my dog all the time...he growls up at them barking mad with fustration cuz he cant get at them....I was so tempted to go out one day and put the cats right in the yard but naw I cant be that cruel cuz I like cats too
QUOTE(Luvkittys7 @ May 26 2006, 01:56 AM) [snapback]1205629[/snapback]
This post makes absolutely no sense unless the poster was smoking with the cats. Then it has perfect clarity.
haha im not a kid it was put together from two things on family guy one was stewie was tlaking aobut the toilet and he wasl iek look at it just sitting thre eating people feces and thjne he runs into the bathroom and goes "u get a job!" and the rest was from peter talking aobut something i jsut replaced some words to have it fit cats.
QUOTE(robbieb @ May 25 2006, 11:22 PM) [snapback]1205777[/snapback]
haha im not a kid it was put together from two things on family guy one was stewie was tlaking aobut the toilet and he wasl iek look at it just sitting thre eating people feces and thjne he runs into the bathroom and goes "u get a job!" and the rest was from peter talking aobut something i jsut replaced some words to have it fit cats.
Oh. Thanx for clearing that up for me.
QUOTE(robbieb @ May 26 2006, 05:22 AM) [snapback]1205777[/snapback]
haha im not a kid it was put together from two things on family guy one was stewie was tlaking aobut the toilet and he wasl iek look at it just sitting thre eating people feces and thjne he runs into the bathroom and goes "u get a job!" and the rest was from peter talking aobut something i jsut replaced some words to have it fit cats.
How old are you robbie?
im a 23 year old zoologist who has a black belt in two martical art systems including jujitsu and isshin ryu karate. and i got ADHD. want to know anything else?
What's in my pocket?
Edit: forgot (this is a joke...) I recognized what robbieb was saying when he posted that and had a good laugh.
Edit: forgot (this is a joke...)
I recognized what robbieb was saying when he posted that and had a good laugh.
robbie,
ADHD is a product of calorie-rich nutrient deficient diets. A by-product of the "western diet".
As sheri says, "you are what you eat".
ADHD is a product of calorie-rich nutrient deficient diets. A by-product of the "western diet".
As sheri says, "you are what you eat".
WHO DO U THINK YOU ARE? DON'T U DARE TALK ABOUT ME LIKE THAT. and if you knew anything about ADHD you would know that is not true. so i'm asking you to never talk about me like you know me. thanks! ADHD is agreed my a vast majority of doctors is caused by genetics. diet, brain trauma, parenting, and allergies are no longer consided to be causes. because 2 children from one family who eat the same things and brought up the same way one might have it the other wont. brain trauma has show that children with adhd ususaly have no brain damage at all. and heres something for u i know someone who is vegan and has ADHD. do your research next time.
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