I see what you're saying too, but its really an apples to oranges comparision. It would be like saying its is an individual judgement as to whether an apple is "better" than an orange, and that would be correct.

If you said that an apple is the same thing as an orange, and its just a matter of perception...well thats just not correct.

I have bloody read a lot of sources and Iraqi people blogs, pluss storys from soldiers while you have watched bloody reptile media like fox news etc.

yeah, glad we cleared it up though

This post is just plain pitiful.

Meee Toooo...

No they dont. They treat Iraqis like civilians in the middle of a warzone.



Close to what? Of course they're not going to let them get close in something like, say, a cordon & search operation. Why would they? That would negate the whole POINT of the operation. Whats wrong with not letting them get close in such a situation?



No they dont. There are specific ROEs that govern how you respond to what. "Looking suspicious" does not permit "use of deadly force".



Harassed? You mean searched? If there's a check point in place, the men and women can either accept the fact that they will be searched if they try to go through, or they can turn around and walk away. Its ignorant and downright stupid to say women cant be searched, because they are a popular way of smuggling contraband and such. Do you have any clue how much risk the troops are put in in order to avoid insulting the culture in regards to women? Only the necessary is done, and there are plenty of rules in place in regards with how to deal with and search women, these rules put the majority of troops in great risk already.



Indeed. Plenty of insurgents blowing up civilians.



I doubt thats where you get your info from.



Are you aware that soldiers from nations all over the world conduct these types of operations in, essentially, the same way? Your latvian soldier buddies you claim you spoke to are just as guilty of harassing women in any checkpoints they've done as the US troops you so adamantly speak out against.



I call BS. You dont know the guy at all. Afterall, you're here complaining about all these warcrimes and this type of attitude... which leads me to believe that if someone actually admitted to it, you would go and report it to the police, no? Afterall, you always have wanted "justice"...

How do you know those sources are real?..anyone can write anything...look at yourself, you just "say things"..that doesn't mean what your saying is true. You seem very impressionable and then pick and choose what you claim to be fact.
In the last couple of posts you claimed I'm a Bush supporter..I never have been. You claim I get my information from Fox news...I never watch it....but to you its true. Could you be just as gullible to other misinformation?

sO THE RECENT SO CALLED LEAKED REPORT ON AMERICAN SOLDIERS IS NOT A FASCIST ANGLE TO GAIN ACCEPTANCE OF BUTCHERY BY THE INNOCENT MILITARY, NO.
Playing naive to the current Iraqi problems is as dangerous as fabricating the casuality of many americans to the butchering of innocent women and children by their armed forces, let alone what goes on in the mind of a young soldier who is trained to enjoy bloodletting nomatter how corrupt the government bankers.. Nah, WWIII taught us nothing. nor did Vietnam, a total waste of spiritual reasoning. I supposse blood lust is still to remain in fashion, despite this world police tag on the political and very fascist Right. or is it ?

What are you TRYING to say? I mean come on...WWIII?? when was that?..enjoy bloodletting...butchering children..blood lust..Vietnam..

Pull it together man! Focus.

Yeah..I know..we got that settled, but I just happened to find this site that explains the difference a bit better.

http://www.ict.org.il/Articles/define.htm#proposal

actually "THE" deciding factor of whether you are a freedom fighter,terrorist,insurgent or politically aligned soldier in training depends who the "BANKERS" decide to promote as such through their global media propaganda machine

you know, i think the nxt generation to be born will easily see through the lies and advance beyond us with our belief restrictions to exacting conclusions by way of the state which we will allow things to fall. BANKERS. I wonder how many here believes that ourlofty banks are warmongers. Look at the biggest monetary investment worldwide `war` and tell me that the vatican is on the side of peace..

Would you clarify that thought?

To me it seems like you're saying only one side has "bankers" when obviously all sides would have some financial backing. But the point actually was that its the goals fought for that determine freedom fighter or terrorist. Your point seems to lean more on the propaganda and selling of the justness of the "cause"

Man, you have more faith than I do.

What a load of complete crap. Are you in Iraq? No. Two of my nephews ARE, and I assure you that they are NOT coordinating attacks on the Iraqi people. These attacks are driven by Iraqi insurgents who are either backing Hussein or the Iraqi Al Qaeda factions. The U.S. can obliterate Iraq with the push of a button, so why would we even bother with a few small-time car-bombs? US soldiers are dying over there every day trying to attain peace & get that country's government organized enough so that it can run on its own - so we can get the hell out of there. I want my nephews to come home in one piece. No one wants this war, but garbage like this is only making it worse.