cyrus11
Jun 1 2006, 10:42 AM
btw.. does anyone know that G H. bush was the head of the CIA? i wonder what he wanted from iraq so much back then that he had to become president and start the first golf war...and when he didn't get it...he had to have his son finish the job?? i bet you it was a piece of human history that might threaten the american way of life.. oops.. i mean the christian way of life..oops i mean the christians who are in power in the government...their way of life..... makes you kind of wonder what they are willing to sacrafice to get the end result....the end justify the means sort of speak.. to make an omelette you have to break some eggs.... you'd think they'd make up excuses to go to war? let terrorists thru security? wmds? nah.... our government is not that heartless....
Jack Black
Jun 1 2006, 10:55 AM
Babylon and the persian Empire!!
You dont need to look to ancient times though..............think Oil reserves
cyrus11
Jun 1 2006, 11:10 AM
don't you find it strange that war with iraq was started by bush sr. who was the former head of the CIA? given the CIA's involvement with E.T. coverup. if US really wanted oil so bad. reagan would have bombed iraq long ago and not wait till bush sr. get elected to president. Bush sr. might know of something that he did not fully brief reagan on. he certainly does not have the power to do what the president can.. go to war...
so obviously he did not get the mission done the first time. there was no public backing on the war.... so it was done 1/2 assed.
today they had the perfect scenerio....who knows what really happened on 9-11.. gut feeling tells me it was a planned neglegence to allow a second pearl harbor to rile up the entire country and the world. then they spun the WMDs. Im sure osama planned the attack....but someone allowed it to happen that would lead to a war.. a second war with iraq. to finish what the father originally intended. WMDs. maybe there was such a thing. but i bet its no gas or chemicals....i bet its a piece of god technology so advanced.. the US cannot afford someone but the US military to have it... so anyways.. thats my gut feeling...or maybe it's just gas :T
btw: there was once when a reporter asked Bush sr. about the UFOs.
his reply was "you don't know the 1/2 of it"
Lilly
Jun 1 2006, 11:51 AM
So, allow me to reiterate here, you're saying that the war in Iraq is due to the Iraqis having a chunk of alien technology?
This one takes the cake.
Uversa
Jun 1 2006, 12:33 PM
QUOTE(Lilly @ Jun 1 2006, 12:51 PM) [snapback]1213364[/snapback]
So, allow me to reiterate here, you're saying that the war in Iraq is due to the Iraqis having a chunk of alien technology?
This one takes the cake.

Sheep.
Lilly
Jun 1 2006, 12:50 PM
QUOTE(Uversa @ Jun 1 2006, 12:33 PM) [snapback]1213385[/snapback]
Sheep.
What? The war in Iraq is due to sheep? Jihadist sheep no doubt!
Waspie_Dwarf
Jun 1 2006, 12:55 PM
QUOTE(Lilly @ Jun 1 2006, 01:50 PM) [snapback]1213390[/snapback]
What? The war in Iraq is due to sheep? Jihadist sheep no doubt!

Now you are just being silly, Lilly.
These are obviously the alien sheep that are guarding the alien technology.
Lilly
Jun 1 2006, 01:33 PM
QUOTE(Waspie_Dwarf @ Jun 1 2006, 12:55 PM) [snapback]1213396[/snapback]
Now you are just being silly, Lilly.
These are obviously the alien sheep that are guarding the alien technology.
Quite right Waspie, mea culpa!
Seriously folks, one important thing is missing here...EVIDENCE. The assumptions being made are fallacious. This is known as,
'Begging The Question'. This fallacy describes the broader fallacy that occurs when the evidence given for a proposition is as much in need of proof as the proposition itself! We need to first prove that UFOs are alien in origin, then we need to prove that Iraq has in it's possession this alien technology. Finally, we'd need to prove that the war is indeed motivated by acquisition of said technology!
You see, sheep
do not reason. I, on the other hand,
do reason.
hand-of-doom
Jun 1 2006, 02:39 PM
It has nothing to do with oil, they are already billionaries. They already have alien technology. So you ask why are they there? There are things buried in iraq. Ancient beings known as the nephilim. They are buried under there untill time the time is right to bring them up for world domination. hence, satan and his clan are going to be brought out of their "lockup" for the end times. Bush is not really christian he is a known skulls member and them as well as other secret societies are luciferian. It's all falling in place on a timeline to the one world government. Aliens are decendants of the nephilim and demons of the bible. Contact will be made with them towards the third world war. Also the anti-christ will be special to them, he will be a powerfull hybrid. It all makes perfect sense.
Never_Hit_Nirvana
Jun 1 2006, 02:54 PM
Bulls**t, the Gulf Wars were started because the Bush family has a deep and abiding fetish for sand and camels.
P.S. Where do you get your drugs? I got to get some of those!
rapid7
Jun 1 2006, 03:09 PM
QUOTE(hand-of-doom @ Jun 1 2006, 02:39 PM) [snapback]1213477[/snapback]
Bush is not really christian he is a known skulls member and them as well as other secret societies are luciferian.
True. I remember seeing this news footage where the interviewer asks Bush directly if he is a member of the skull and bones society. lol

you should have seen Bush's face when he said "you know that's off limits, I can't discuss this"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_Bones
Lilly
Jun 1 2006, 07:54 PM
QUOTE(hand-of-doom @ Jun 1 2006, 02:39 PM) [snapback]1213477[/snapback]
... Ancient beings known as the nephilim. They are buried under there untill time the time is right to bring them up for world domination. hence, satan and his clan are going to be brought out of their "lockup" for the end times. Bush is not really christian he is a known skulls member and them as well as other secret societies are luciferian. It's all falling in place on a timeline to the one world government. Aliens are decendants of the nephilim and demons of the bible. Contact will be made with them towards the third world war. Also the anti-christ will be special to them, he will be a powerfull hybrid. It all makes perfect sense.
No, it doesn't make "perfect sense", it doesn't really make any kind of sense. This is all fantasy, it's not based on any proven reality. If it makes sense to you personally, that's fine. However, in order for most people (that I know, at least) to accept something as reality, there's going to have to be more than mythology backing it up.
counterveil
Jun 1 2006, 08:29 PM
QUOTE(Lilly @ Jun 1 2006, 12:54 PM) [snapback]1213762[/snapback]
No, it doesn't make "perfect sense", it doesn't really make any kind of sense. This is all fantasy, it's not based on any proven reality. If it makes sense to you personally, that's fine. However, in order for most people (that I know, at least) to accept something as reality, there's going to have to be more than mythology backing it up.
Amen, Lilly. Seriously people, understand the difference between theory-leaping and sense.
Ned Tunacao
Jun 1 2006, 08:56 PM
"that he had to become president and start the first golf war..."
Yes, yes...
The Golf war was mighty indeed. We basically did a flat out line drive and snaked a putt in at the hole. Mhmm...
....
Couldn't resist.
Ned.
xstortionist
Jun 1 2006, 09:04 PM
where did u hear there are "things" burried in Iraq ?!?!? There is SHIT burried all over the world that we haven't dug up yet...why is iraq so unique?
FireMoon
Jun 1 2006, 10:59 PM
Some truly barking mad theories going on here... However, doesnt change the fact that there is more evidence something crashed in Roswell that was from an *alien technology* than there is that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction...
psyche101
Jun 2 2006, 02:13 AM
QUOTE(Waspie_Dwarf @ Jun 1 2006, 10:55 PM) [snapback]1213396[/snapback]
Now you are just being silly, Lilly.
These are obviously the alien sheep that are guarding the alien technology.
Lilly
Jun 2 2006, 11:42 AM
QUOTE(xstortionist @ Jun 1 2006, 09:04 PM) [snapback]1213850[/snapback]
...There is SHIT burried all over the world that we haven't dug up yet...why is iraq so unique?
Ok, I'll bite, what sort of sh*t is buried all over the world? Are you referring to alien technology? If so, then why hasn't someone brought forth a piece of this technology and blown the lid off of the alien visitation question? If this stuff is buried here and there, I'd think someone would have found something by now?
DEBUNKER
Jun 2 2006, 11:58 AM
I think,
hope,he is referring to other sh**.
rapid7
Jun 2 2006, 12:04 PM
Experts estimate that there are about 100,000 sites of cultural and historical importance in Iraq ( Iraq Site Map), most of them not yet excavated; about 10,000 are known. However, the cultural heritage of Iraq is primarily Arabic. One of these famous Islamic monuments is the 55 meters high spiraling minaret of the great mosque in Samarra (see picture), built in 850 AD. In addition this land is the home of the three world religions: Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. source
http://www.h-net.org/~museum/iraq.htmlGreat mosque in Samarra
Immortal Norway
Jun 2 2006, 12:50 PM
QUOTE(cyrus11 @ Jun 1 2006, 12:42 PM) [snapback]1213330[/snapback]
btw.. does anyone know that G H. bush was the head of the CIA? i wonder what he wanted from iraq so much back then that he had to become president and start the first golf war...and when he didn't get it...he had to have his son finish the job?? i bet you it was a piece of human history that might threaten the american way of life.. oops.. i mean the christian way of life..oops i mean the christians who are in power in the government...their way of life..... makes you kind of wonder what they are willing to sacrafice to get the end result....the end justify the means sort of speak.. to make an omelette you have to break some eggs.... you'd think they'd make up excuses to go to war? let terrorists thru security? wmds? nah.... our government is not that heartless....

I didn`t even know that George. H. Bush was leader of CIA...
Well... Maybe Bush is the third antichrist ?... but which Bush that is the antichrist, I don`t know...
matthewgoad
Jun 2 2006, 01:21 PM
Wow you guys must smoke some heavy stuff to come up with this stuff. Everyone knows that War in Iraq was started because of illegal downloading of music. Iraqis for years have been stealing our music and Bush was tired of it. Bush the band that is, not George. So the band called up Bush and convinced him to go to war. They were like we have to save our crappy music. Ok I'm sorry that went downhill very fast and sounded alot funnier in my head. But, oh well. Just go with it.
DEBUNKER
Jun 2 2006, 03:02 PM
QUOTE(cyrus11 @ Jun 1 2006, 11:10 AM) [snapback]1213346[/snapback]
don't you find it strange that war with iraq was started by bush sr. who was the former head of the CIA? given the CIA's involvement with E.T. coverup............
OMG

Im not even going to touch this one, wouldnt know were to begin.
Celumnaz
Jun 2 2006, 03:50 PM
QUOTE(hand-of-doom @ Jun 1 2006, 09:39 AM) [snapback]1213477[/snapback]
It has nothing to do with oil, they are already billionaries. They already have alien technology. So you ask why are they there? There are things buried in iraq. Ancient beings known as the nephilim. They are buried under there untill time the time is right to bring them up for world domination. hence, satan and his clan are going to be brought out of their "lockup" for the end times. Bush is not really christian he is a known skulls member and them as well as other secret societies are luciferian. It's all falling in place on a timeline to the one world government. Aliens are decendants of the nephilim and demons of the bible. Contact will be made with them towards the third world war. Also the anti-christ will be special to them, he will be a powerfull hybrid. It all makes perfect sense.
I'd disagree with some of the piddly details, but in general that's pretty close to what I think is going on.
A very interesting next few decades.
paquetboy1
Jun 2 2006, 04:13 PM
well after checking some of this weird sh** out. A lot of people seem to believe that the Bush is in the skulls, Maybe thats why we are in afghanistan because the skulls are invoved in the opium trade so there is not enough money in oil anymore.
Murderman187
Jun 2 2006, 05:59 PM
QUOTE(ledley @ Jun 1 2006, 12:55 PM) [snapback]1213336[/snapback]
Babylon and the persian Empire!!
You dont need to look to ancient times though..............think Oil reserves

i thought persian empire was in iran?
CongressmanReality
Jun 3 2006, 03:15 PM
The Gulf War was started when Iraq invaded Kuwait, was not started by Bush Sr. Kuwait had been using a technique known as Slant Oil Drilling, which is exactly what it sounds like, instead of drill down, they would slant drill into Iraq, thus stealing billions of dollars of Iraqi oil. Iraq told them to stop, Kuwait did not...Iraq invaded.
Lux Felix
Jun 4 2006, 12:51 PM
QUOTE(Murderman187 @ Jun 2 2006, 06:59 PM) [snapback]1215193[/snapback]
i thought persian empire was in iran?

yes but also iraq, Siria, Palestina, Egypt, Tukey and many other nations...
Some of thise nations are in reality modern colonialist creations.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_EmpireBabylon and Persia are two different civilitation who nothing to has share (almust) even if Babylon was easely conquered by Cyrus the great king of Persia.
Moro
Jun 5 2006, 01:46 AM
Treasure and lots of it Mhmm...
who really knows until they dig it up!
hand-of-doom
Jun 5 2006, 02:50 AM
Ha, you guys think the nephilim theory is crazy. But I have not seen anyone post a serious reason for them to be there. The nephilim are buried there and they want to bring them up so the nephilim can rule (consistent with end times prophecy). lets take a look at a few possibilities.
Oil-Of course not, they know as well as we do its a dying market that will be replaced by technology. There is no way around it. Oil is a limited resource. They have enough and then some to ride the current wave of demand untill a breakthough comes along.
WMD-We all know this is about a joke. They were gone long before we got there. Our military is the best do you think they would attack not even knowing where any weapons where or how they would be used.
The leader- Saddam hussan was a bad man but there is worse leaders in the world. Did you know women could leave the house unvailed? They actually had some rights there. Less now than before.
Bush family grudge- To obvious, but a nice front.
Well now we ask ourselves why are they there? The leaders of the world are trying to complete what they believe is prophecy. The want bablyon, they want the garden of eden where mankind was engineered by aliens. There creation is who the secret societies worship- The Nephilim.
thank you, I'm looking forward to your thoughts and comments about my theory.
Zenskeptic
Jun 5 2006, 03:03 AM
We know at some point they had WMDs because we sold them to Iraq in the 80s (before they were wrong). Hussein was a monster that we helped get in power, supported regularly, then were compelled to dispatch. We weren't specifically trying to free up their oil supplies, we'd attack Venezuela if we wanted more oil. Aliens aren't even on the radar as a logical reason.
hand-of-doom
Jun 5 2006, 03:28 AM
QUOTE(Zenskeptic @ Jun 4 2006, 10:03 PM) [snapback]1218421[/snapback]
We know at some point they had WMDs because we sold them to Iraq in the 80s (before they were wrong). Hussein was a monster that we helped get in power, supported regularly, then were compelled to dispatch. We weren't specifically trying to free up their oil supplies, we'd attack Venezuela if we wanted more oil. Aliens aren't even on the radar as a logical reason.
So why do you think they are there? WMD are gone, been gone, and are never coming back. They don't need the oil either is my point. The demand for it only will be low in the future once science has found an alternative. We have enough oil in alaska for 100 years. Why take other peoples oil now? They don't even know if they will need it or not. They are billionairs and they already have plenty of oil. Do you think they would actually go in there and bomb the hell out of it NOT KNOWING where the WMD's might be? Thats not logical. What is logical is they believe we are at end times and they trying help piece the puzzle together. And yes aliens hybrids known as the nephilim are buried deep in the sands of Iraq. This also explains why world leaders and the US government has a cover-up for now. They will blow the lid once we get closer to what THEY believe is the "end times."
Celumnaz
Jun 5 2006, 04:24 PM
Somewhat the same thing as described in the debunked book "necronomicon", much of what Lovecraft wrote about, Crowley talked some about it, recently Aaron Donahue talks about similar... raise the ancient ones... something along those lines.
Bobzilla
Jun 5 2006, 06:07 PM
QUOTE(hand-of-doom @ Jun 4 2006, 10:28 PM) [snapback]1218458[/snapback]
So why do you think they are there?"
It must be aliens. That's really the only logical explanation left.
DeadRobot
Jun 5 2006, 06:31 PM
QUOTE(Celumnaz @ Jun 5 2006, 05:24 PM) [snapback]1219098[/snapback]
Somewhat the same thing as described in the debunked book "necronomicon", much of what Lovecraft wrote about, Crowley talked some about it, recently Aaron Donahue talks about similar... raise the ancient ones... something along those lines.
lol, the 'necronomicon ex mortus', I'll swallow your soul!
As we know the Bush family is from texas, they like thier OIL there, now Iraq has some OIL so they do this whole melodramatic carry on in the early 90's to get the OIL and it buggers up, so the son blunders his way into his father's old position tries again. There are many bad people out there probably far worse than Saddam, but do you see The Americans invading them to kill those tyrants off? Nope. I am strongly led to believe that theres is no other intentions for the interest in Iraq other than OIL.
Stellar
Jun 5 2006, 07:24 PM
QUOTE
And yes aliens hybrids known as the nephilim are buried deep in the sands of Iraq.
Oh really? Please, show me the proof of this...
Bobzilla
Jun 5 2006, 08:35 PM
QUOTE(Stellar @ Jun 5 2006, 02:24 PM) [snapback]1219317[/snapback]
Oh really? Please, show me the proof of this...
LOL! Yes I'm quite interested as well
Celumnaz
Jun 5 2006, 08:49 PM
they talk about it some at
taroscopes.com
exopolitics.org
don't think you'd find them credible... I'm wierd and I admit it.
hand-of-doom
Jun 5 2006, 11:42 PM
QUOTE(Stellar @ Jun 5 2006, 02:24 PM) [snapback]1219317[/snapback]
Oh really? Please, show me the proof of this...
It's only a theory, I don't believe we are there for oil or weapons. If I had proof I would blow the lid on their operation. The bible talks about the nephilim in genesis as we all know. I and others think they are buried on the planet, probably in the middle east. They may be buried closer to isreal and egypt. The helped build the pryamids of giza. Listen to coast to coast tonight 6-5-06 they will be talking in depth about the nephilim and the religeous and Illuminati connection. Believe me once you anaylize this it will make perfect sense. The ones who control the planet actually worship aliens In a luciferic way. wierd
Stellar
Jun 6 2006, 03:04 AM
QUOTE
It's only a theory
No, its only a guess, so stop talking about it in absolutes.
QUOTE
The ones who control the planet actually worship aliens In a luciferic way.
Of course. That makes perfect sense
Eternal Soul
Jun 6 2006, 03:28 AM
QUOTE(Lilly @ Jun 1 2006, 09:21 PM) [snapback]1213364[/snapback]
So, allow me to reiterate here, you're saying that the war in Iraq is due to the Iraqis having a chunk of alien technology?
This one takes the cake.

Its all about the rising of the fourth reich or a continuation of the third,........... world dommination.
Stellar
Jun 6 2006, 07:21 PM
QUOTE
Its all about the rising of the fourth reich or a continuation of the third,........... world dommination.
If you say so.
Celumnaz
Jun 6 2006, 07:37 PM
maybe not so much the tech, as the "alien creators" themselves.
not so much the nephilim as the parents of the nephilim.
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