So normally i don't post here but hey, let's give it a shot

It's just a stupid idea that i've had because i don't even believe in Greys and such. But i was thinking why every time you here one of those stories you never hear about spacesuit of the aliens. It's so strange that even when these creatures are from the other freaking end of the galaxy they still don't wear spacesuits. And it seems really unlikely that they have the exact same atmosphere as we have given their looks. So there are a couple of things that can come from this. You could think that all aliens are fake... or you can make assumptions about their adaption to our world. For this there are two ideas. Either they altered themselves so they could adapt to our enviroment or the know look of the greys ( ) actually are their spacesuits! Just thought about sharing this. Don't think anyone will be interested

Sorry if i made any typos, Belgium is not known for it's knowledge in English.

The Drake

heh yeaa they just magically happen to have exactly the same atmosphere as ours but yea there will be some idea thought up out there somewhere to account for this, id say any alien species that comes tens of light years to constantly abduct "billy bob" from his trailer and cut cows open continually whilst making little circles in agricultural crops is the product of an idle mind at *best

good to read this

Aliens are Miskatonic manifestations - like Bigfoot (residing firmly in the demonic realm.) Not flesh and blood (nor nuts and bolts.) Definitely not cute and definitely not cuddly. These are non-living entities - trans-dimensional in nature. An expression (or solution) to some thermodynamic hyper-dimensional system. Ordered chaos. Some such thing. They operate and align themselves very much with that which we refer to as spirit although they themselves are not necessarily spiritual. Your spirit is suspended when in their presence (freeze factor.) They are definitely non-spiritual entities. How vain of you to think they require life-support systems. You may dismiss this but more out of ignorance or what I term CDS (chronic denial syndrome.) I might check back and post a slightly more cohesive response ... in the mean time Google for "can bigfoot be killed?" and similarily "human dna-hyperdimension." They don't need no invitation and rest assurred - they don't give a bug-eye what your thoughts on this matter are. Not particularly re-assuring but that's too bad. Investigate 'occult-tech' - hypothesis that aliens embraced (and refined) occult practice for the last couple of million years. Makes for interesting reading....In Your Wildest Dreams article by K Carpenter(not the singer)

Can Bigfoot be 'Offed?'

dna Hyper-Dimension

Life in the Sun article .... a bit stilted (translated) but main thrust is that the corner-stone of life is contrast (day and night), (hot and cold), (winter / summer) (wet/dry) and that this is quantified by a 'measuring stick' calibrated in units of 'negentropy' or degree of contrast. Evidently deep within the sun - is a boudary layer between the radiative and the conductive zone and that this layer is rich in 'negentropy.' Native North American folk-lore has long held solar phenomenon such as northern lights particularly malevolent capable of all manner of mutilation and depravity. Certain strict decorum was exercised when venturning outside during strong aural displays..... something strange in the neighborhood.

reasonable (although a bit stilted) treatment on mystery of Sleep Paralysis

Sudden Unexplained Death Syndrome (Sunds) + Hmong
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Do your own homework - there is lots of material out there...and to off-hand dismiss speaks more to ones lack of understanding or lack of willingness to contemplate their "mortal coil." Very scary stuff - no two ways about it.

putting aside your massive assumptions on what i have previously read~

something someone has written is not in any way a fact, and you'd do well not to say people who base thier optinions on proven science and evidence have chronic denial syndrom or are off hand dismissing, its a ludicrous statment as you may accept if you sit back and have a think.

a little science corelated with a lot of specualtion can make for a bit of crazy. iv yet to see anything that comes close to something that convinces me (never mind scientifically shown,, not EVEN proven in this way, and would be the first to believe it if it did.

You know, that is not a stupid idea.
In fact, I have addressed it myself when addressing the myriad UFO claims of alien life invading our planet, aliens being held on earth, and such things as that.

Given the diminutive size of most of these stereotypical "greys", of course named for that grey color they seem to favor, one would have to think that they come from a very different environment. Gravitationally, their world would likely be lower in gravity than it is here, derived from their much smaller, much more frail physical design, and that grey color may well be the result of evolution in a very different atmosphere, and likely a very different chemical makeup.

Not only do these aliens never seem to have space suits of any kind, they also appear to be stark naked all the time, which would lead one to think that they also evolved in a very benign planetary environment, since they have no hair, and obviously require no protection against the elements where they come from.

Thus, a trip to earth would likely find them in a very dangerous planetary environment, perhaps a different concentration of gasses that they'd find harmful if not perhaps toxic, and probably at a different pressure than their bodies are used to, as well as gravity that is likely extremely taxing on their frail beings. They've got no protection against the heat and cold and elements that are common all over this planet.

One wonders, how would these little naked guys be abble to survive without some form of corporeal protection and atmopsheric support.

It's not a dumb idea. On the contrary, it makes perfect sense, and tends to lay claims of aliens being interrogated at area 51, etc. to waste as being completely ridiculous.

i believe that the aliens that crashed in roswell does have some sort of outfit that they were wearing..people described it as being a high tenacity material....kinda like kevlar but stronger. also other sightings including the ones from school children in south africa. they all described them in some sort of black space suit....
I believe it is not that the real aliens do not wear space suits.. it's just that the real people who had hallucinations imagined the aliens pictured them naked because of all the media's representation of them are as "naked extra-terrestrial animals".
I believe the media is somewhat in league with the government in how the aliens should be portrayed. If the masses (christian bible god fearinging voters) were given the real truth about aliens, that they are smarter than us, more advanced... then their position in power might be threatened... people want to know that "God" made them more special than any other living things in the universe.. people want to know that God made man the supreme living being... people want to know that even though aliens have all these fantastic machines.. they are still just another animal without souls.. that we can out-smart and out battle. what better way to degrade your enemy than to make them look like a lower lifeform? isn't that what the Nazi's did to the Jews?

Interesting idea.. never thought of it. I've never been much for the whole "alien visitation" theory, but thats another possible sword-in-the-thorax to the general notion.



Errm... Well... I don't know where your gettin' your ideas, but generally its accepted that demons are completely spiritual, as they are supposed to be the same stock as angels, but fallen. (at least in Jewish/Christian lore) Demons are supposed to be completely spiritual entities, having no real physical form. (hence why a demon can appear to a single person and not to another) They are not "non-spiritual entities" they are more of a hyper-spiritual entity. As being a being of pure spirit they can still create physical changes upon the fabric of the world as the world is a partially spiritual place. (off-topicness! Errm... sorry for such a serious off-topic digression)

Oh, I see, so the religious right, and the media is responsible for this naked alien thing?
They feel that the aliens are "enemies" and soulless animals and wish to humiliate them like the Nazis did with the jews...

Well, that solves that mystery...

Holy Fallacy of Presumption!

As long as we're presuming this and that...I postulate that ETs are naked simply because they are "free spirits", they are not hung up on the clothing thing like us "uncivilized" humans. The government wants us to realize that ETs are vulnerable and friendly, hence they promote them in their naked form. Human and alien should just all join hands, form a circle, and sing a round of Kumbaya!


Well, it could be true!

That concept (A gray's exterior actually being their spacesuit) is actually in several movies as well, so it's not something that's new. People ARE aware. As for aliens being spirits, I think that's just a silly theory in general.

Just last night I was discussing this with boorite. I was wondering why they always show aliens naked (except for Communion where they were wearing robes).

Far be it from me to question an advanced race, but does superior knowledge HAVE to mean we become nudists? The big problem I have with the constant nudity is lack of pockets. Where do they keep their wallets?

Amusingly, the movie Undead had a little bit with the aliens that I found very amusing. When one was talking to the lead character, he took off his robe and stood before her. After giving her all the pertinent details and she was gone, the others told him to put his robe back on. His reply: "I'm comfortable with who I am."

Maybe all the aliens we get are just an alien nudist colony taking vacation on earth...

This thread is ridiculous in more ways than one and simply highlights the dangers of assumptions. And that goes for both sides of the equation; the believers and non-believers.

There are plenty of apparent contradictions in alien contact accounts besides some aliens being naked. How about, they have super advanced technology at their disposable yet choose to wear cloaks and stick long needle-like devises into the cranium of hapless abductees. Or, how about, the alien’s symbol is a golden snake? A snake for god’s sake. C’mon.. this is absolutely ridiculous. Yet, absolutely true.

I used to believe the theory that suggested the grey aliens, were no more than (deep breath) the subconscious representation of the western world’s collective fear concerning the future in our techno overloaded stressful environment.
The Big black eyes represent primal animal fear and the fear of being watched constantly by CCTV. The large oversized cranium represents cold calculated intelligence. The Thin, weak almost diseased anatomy again represents fear of the future; in the technological age we won’t need our physical bodies as much. And finally the grey skin represents the colorless dull lifeless future.

Anyway, having seen the irrefutable evidence (in this case a grey alien), I now realize the above theory is pure BS.
The greys are in fact accurate descriptions made by abductees of real aliens that exist. Well now, ain’t that crazy. It appears some of these people who claimed they were abducted by aliens (shock horror) could actually tell the difference between the subjective and objective reality after all.
Actually come to think of it, that’s all these people were trying to say. They didn’t want to religiously convert you, they just wanted you to take a ‘leap of faith’ and believe them. Simply that they were telling the truth and also they wanted you to believe, they were capable of distinguishing between fantasy and reality.

Now, I don’t actually expect to convince anyone in this forum the ‘aliens are here’ simply because I say so. I respectfully request you suspend your judgment until further evidence is available to you. By the very nature of this alien enigma; the irrefutable evidence will have to be presented to you privately; unless the aliens themselves decide to publicly announce their presence. Do not expect any public announcements made by the Government.

Dude, i respect your opinion and all but this was just an idea i had about them being inside a spacesuit. I don't even believe in Greys visiting our planet but am openminded enough to accept it as a possibility ^^ Your original thought about the ABC's and the Aliens as a representation of our collective fears is known by me from my psychology class and studies that i have taken to help a friend to help who happens to be a ufologist. Currently he is studying the idea i had but wanted to know the opinion of the general public that is a sceptic or a believer, people that have a clear opinion on the subject thus making this place the best place to begin ^^ I just wonder why you started calling this thread ridiculous because i have a theory and people reply to it while you say you witnessed actual Greys. if you indeed had contact with them then how can you be so sure that these creatures or outworlders are not wearing protection and are just naked. Can you compare the pictures of a normale human with that of a person in a spacesuit, they are totally different. What makes it impossible for Greys to be in a spacesuit, even if they are lightyears ahead of us in technology and thoughts?

Fair enough, I didn’t mean to come across as po-faced or anything, although sometimes I wonder if we really have that much control over our writing styles. I’m not sure how I come across; I may come across as arrogant or absolutely convinced I’m right. But the truth of the matter is I’m extremely limited in what I can and can’t say. I have to protect people’s rights to remain anonymous etc. At the very least careers are at stake which I'm sure anybody can understand the reason why.
So I freely admit, my arguments will appear very weak.
I can understand the rationale applied by all sides of the argument from the believers to the science based skeptics. Which btw I have the audacity to claim I am a member of the latter. It’s just I’ve seen the irrefutable evidence; on more than one occasion and
I had plenty of time to make a rational judgment of each situation which btw has been verified from an outside source. This is the problem, verification. You can say what you like as long as it cannot be verified. And so yes, it’ll look like I’m invoking the conspiracy logical fallacy.

Right, down to business. You would not be wasting your time if you imagine the greys actually exist. So based on this premise with the apparent contradictions displayed by their behavior; your guess is as good as mine. I don’t know why the greys are always presented as being naked by the media. In reality they usually wear dark cloaks or hooded robes; which of course does sound just as ridiculous. Q- Why do aliens wear dark cloaks? A- I don’t know, they just do.

I can only presume the reason they don’t wear recognizable conventional spacesuits or the aliens and abductees don’t appear to be at risk by biological contamination is because of the alien’s advanced tech (llike you suggested). It’s quite difficult to apply our current understanding of science to these aliens. Or to be specific; mainstream science is usually used to disprove the alien’s existence. I guess it comes down to the burden of proof which is entirely understandable but in reality means, a conspiracy of this nature will continue for quite some time. Which is unfortunate for all concerned.
I’ve yet to come across a satisfactory answer that can explain ‘why these aliens are abducting people and implanting them’. The real big question and the aliens certainly aren’t talking.