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callmefriend
hi - i'm writing a book, and i need a binding spell for it -- i need a spell in Latin or some other language - not English -- that will bind a spirit to an object - it needs to be an incantation that can be written on the object -- i am looking for a spell specifically from the medieval time period -- also if you know any history of the spell that can be woven into my story such as names, date, object (bronze, lead, etc.) if the spell can only work on a specific form such as an amulet, etc. please post those details or pm it to me would be greatly appreciated. i've tried researching it myself but i can't find specific wording, i only find history of binding spells, etc. and that would be good if they'd provide the spell itself so that i can use it in the story -- thanks eversomuch for any assistance original.gif
ivytheplant
If you're looking for something medieval then I suggest you look in some folklore and fairy tales. There was always some sort of chant or spell going on. Celtic myths, African tales and anything involving Baba Yaga are a good place to start looking. Medieval children's nursery chants are good too. They can be rather morbid and sound more like spells than nursery rhymes. Also try Native American chants, Indian folklore, and Chinese mythology. They usually have some fascinating stories.

Otherwise you can always find a modern binding spell and have it translated into Latin or another language.

What culture or setting, etc is the story in? Are you trying to stay true to the story, or is this something you can work around?

Of course, you can always make something up yourself. Just remember to throw in some ominous-sounding deity for flair. wink2.gif
callmefriend
QUOTE(ivytheplant @ Jun 3 2006, 06:31 PM) [snapback]1216538[/snapback]

If you're looking for something medieval then I suggest you look in some folklore and fairy tales. There was always some sort of chant or spell going on. Celtic myths, African tales and anything involving Baba Yaga are a good place to start looking. Medieval children's nursery chants are good too. They can be rather morbid and sound more like spells than nursery rhymes. Also try Native American chants, Indian folklore, and Chinese mythology. They usually have some fascinating stories.

Otherwise you can always find a modern binding spell and have it translated into Latin or another language.

What culture or setting, etc is the story in? Are you trying to stay true to the story, or is this something you can work around?

Of course, you can always make something up yourself. Just remember to throw in some ominous-sounding deity for flair. wink2.gif


Thank you very much for you post original.gif i can work around it if needed, but if there were actually some story that i could build from that would work the best. in the story, the main character buys a piece of jewelry, right now i have it as a medallion, but i could easily change that -- i need the piece to be medieval because of the twist at the end of the story, the setting will be the witch trials in the medieval period in Europe -- i want a spirit to be bound to the piece of jewelry so that the spirit can take possession of my main character to bring everything that needs to occur in the story about

thank you for your many suggestions -- i may have to find a spell - but don't know how to find the wording of the spell for what i want -- on the internet people are very afraid to post the kind of spell i need for the book - and they post mostly benign spells that couldn't cause any harm - but if i could find one that suits the purpose of the story - i'm not sure how i could get it translated into Latin, not knowing the language myself -- again, thanks so much -- if you have any other suggestions i'd very much like to see them original.gif
Dimka
QUOTE(callmefriend @ Jun 3 2006, 04:35 PM) [snapback]1216670[/snapback]

Thank you very much for you post original.gif i can work around it if needed, but if there were actually some story that i could build from that would work the best. in the story, the main character buys a piece of jewelry, right now i have it as a medallion, but i could easily change that -- i need the piece to be medieval because of the twist at the end of the story, the setting will be the witch trials in the medieval period in Europe -- i want a spirit to be bound to the piece of jewelry so that the spirit can take possession of my main character to bring everything that needs to occur in the story about

thank you for your many suggestions -- i may have to find a spell - but don't know how to find the wording of the spell for what i want -- on the internet people are very afraid to post the kind of spell i need for the book - and they post mostly benign spells that couldn't cause any harm - but if i could find one that suits the purpose of the story - i'm not sure how i could get it translated into Latin, not knowing the language myself -- again, thanks so much -- if you have any other suggestions i'd very much like to see them original.gif

Why in the worl would you write a book with such nonsense? Aren't there enough books saying the same thing over and over? Why write another one>???????
Boltwave
QUOTE(callmefriend @ Jun 3 2006, 12:06 PM) [snapback]1216446[/snapback]

hi - i'm writing a book, and i need a binding spell for it -- i need a spell in Latin or some other language - not English -- that will bind a spirit to an object - it needs to be an incantation that can be written on the object -- i am looking for a spell specifically from the medieval time period -- also if you know any history of the spell that can be woven into my story such as names, date, object (bronze, lead, etc.) if the spell can only work on a specific form such as an amulet, etc. please post those details or pm it to me would be greatly appreciated. i've tried researching it myself but i can't find specific wording, i only find history of binding spells, etc. and that would be good if they'd provide the spell itself so that i can use it in the story -- thanks eversomuch for any assistance original.gif



Please please please don't attempt to do this, it isn't a very wise stunt, controlling a spirit to make it do what you want it to do isn't very intelligent, I feel stupid now that I even made a thread about how to summon one, I was probably drunk at the time, because I would not normally suggest it to anyone else or that matter my own sake.

But seriously, spirits aren't a toy, and it isn't a good idea to go playing around with them no.gif
ivytheplant
QUOTE(Boltwave @ Jun 4 2006, 03:03 AM) [snapback]1217343[/snapback]

Please please please don't attempt to do this, it isn't a very wise stunt, controlling a spirit to make it do what you want it to do isn't very intelligent, I feel stupid now that I even made a thread about how to summon one, I was probably drunk at the time, because I would not normally suggest it to anyone else or that matter my own sake.

But seriously, spirits aren't a toy, and it isn't a good idea to go playing around with them no.gif


Um, she's writing a BOOK. Not summoning spirits herself...
Boltwave
QUOTE(ivytheplant @ Jun 4 2006, 04:22 AM) [snapback]1217358[/snapback]

Um, she's writing a BOOK. Not summoning spirits herself...


Sorry I didn't read through all the way, my bad grin2.gif

Don't blame me though, I've been up all night and I had a Smirnoff at least 8 hours ago thumbsup.gif
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(callmefriend @ Jun 3 2006, 06:06 PM) [snapback]1216446[/snapback]

hi - i'm writing a book, and i need a binding spell for it -- i need a spell in Latin or some other language - not English -- that will bind a spirit to an object - it needs to be an incantation that can be written on the object -- i am looking for a spell specifically from the medieval time period -- also if you know any history of the spell that can be woven into my story such as names, date, object (bronze, lead, etc.) if the spell can only work on a specific form such as an amulet, etc. please post those details or pm it to me would be greatly appreciated. i've tried researching it myself but i can't find specific wording, i only find history of binding spells, etc. and that would be good if they'd provide the spell itself so that i can use it in the story -- thanks eversomuch for any assistance original.gif

I admire you for making an effort to do this...I hope you get all the info you need for your book and I URGE other witches to help you thumbsup.gif
Purplos
Since it appears to be a fiction book (novel) you are writing, I would suggest MAKING UP the binding spell. In the small chance that this spell actually does something, I doubt you want a bunch of kids picking up the book and binding spirits to things just because they're reading your book.

Just me thinks.
Hermetic Hermit
QUOTE(callmefriend @ Jun 3 2006, 10:06 AM) [snapback]1216446[/snapback]

hi - i'm writing a book, and i need a binding spell for it -- i need a spell in Latin or some other language - not English -- that will bind a spirit to an object - it needs to be an incantation that can be written on the object -- i am looking for a spell specifically from the medieval time period -- also if you know any history of the spell that can be woven into my story such as names, date, object (bronze, lead, etc.) if the spell can only work on a specific form such as an amulet, etc. please post those details or pm it to me would be greatly appreciated. i've tried researching it myself but i can't find specific wording, i only find history of binding spells, etc. and that would be good if they'd provide the spell itself so that i can use it in the story -- thanks eversomuch for any assistance original.gif


Perhaps you could use a sigil instead of a spell. If you're not familiar a sigil is a symbol, glyph or pictorial representation of a name or concept.

You take the entity's name create a sigil to represent it, slap it on the "object" and voilą, the spirit is bound to the object(as long as you believe it is).

user posted image

Sigil of Lucifer

Just stare at it, comeon I know you want to blink.gif

Muhahahahahaha devil.gif

whistling2.gif
callmefriend
these are great responses -- thanks everyone -- the sigil is a very interesting idea

i found a name Hecate that might work well -- she already has her own symbol, so maybe i could just use that -- it seems the easiest
Hermetic Hermit
QUOTE(callmefriend @ Jun 5 2006, 03:39 PM) [snapback]1219574[/snapback]

these are great responses -- thanks everyone -- the sigil is a very interesting idea

i found a name Hecate that might work well -- she already has her own symbol, so maybe i could just use that -- it seems the easiest


Sounds like a plan. Are you using the symbol Hecate's Wheel by chance?

Cause that's a pretty cool symbol.

And by chance did anyone stare at the Sigil of Lucifer and by chance are you now knee-deep in toads and locusts?

Just curious is all nothing to be alarmed over whistling2.gif
callmefriend
QUOTE(Hermetic Hermit @ Jun 5 2006, 10:49 PM) [snapback]1219585[/snapback]

Sounds like a plan. Are you using the symbol Hecate's Wheel by chance?

Cause that's a pretty cool symbol.

And by chance did anyone stare at the Sigil of Lucifer and by chance are you now knee-deep in toads and locusts?

Just curious is all nothing to be alarmed over whistling2.gif


i'll look for her wheel - i found it on about.com, and it was the symbol only, the wheel will work well for a medallion - thanks so much for your help
Hermetic Hermit
QUOTE(callmefriend @ Jun 5 2006, 05:31 PM) [snapback]1219700[/snapback]

i'll look for her wheel - i found it on about.com, and it was the symbol only, the wheel will work well for a medallion - thanks so much for your help


You're welcome and it's my pleasure, I went and found a few pics of Hecate's Wheel that you might like....

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Now if you don't mind me asking is there any particular reason you picked Hecate? You said you found a name, were you looking for a Goddess of the Underworld? Magick and Sorcery?

If you would like some more information on Hecate....

"Hecate was often depicted as a young maiden with three faces, each pointing in a different direction, a role in which she was the earth-spirit that haunted wherever three paths joined. As the "goddess of three forms" she was Luna (the moon) in heaven, Diana (Artemis) on earth, and Hecate of the underworld."

"Hecate had other [...] names [...] these included: 1) Hecate-Phosphoros ( "The Light Bearer" [recalling another powerful underworld spirit whose original name was Lucifer, "the light bearer"]); and 2) Hecate-Propylaia ( "The One Who Guards The Gate")."

"[...] the Festival of Luna, or the ancient Virgin Goddess of the Moon who came to be called Diana. She was identical to the Greek goddess Artemis. Daughter of Jupiter and Latona. Sister of Apollo, she was also the Goddess of Hunting. Diana had three forms: Luna in Heaven, Diana on Earth, and Hecate in the Underworld. Diana was often called Diana Lucifera, Diana the Bringer of Light."

QUOTE(Hermetic Hermit @ Jun 5 2006, 01:31 PM) [snapback]1219409[/snapback]


user posted image

Sigil of Lucifer

Just stare at it, comeon I know you want to blink.gif


Hecate-Phosphoros, Hecate the Light Bearer and Diana Lucifera, Diana the Bringer of Light.

Things that make you go hhhmmmmm. whistling2.gif
callmefriend
QUOTE(Hermetic Hermit @ Jun 6 2006, 05:57 PM) [snapback]1220576[/snapback]

You're welcome and it's my pleasure, I went and found a few pics of Hecate's Wheel that you might like....

user posted image

Now if you don't mind me asking is there any particular reason you picked Hecate? You said you found a name, were you looking for a Goddess of the Underworld? Magick and Sorcery?

If you would like some more information on Hecate....

"Hecate was often depicted as a young maiden with three faces, each pointing in a different direction, a role in which she was the earth-spirit that haunted wherever three paths joined. As the "goddess of three forms" she was Luna (the moon) in heaven, Diana (Artemis) on earth, and Hecate of the underworld."

"Hecate had other [...] names [...] these included: 1) Hecate-Phosphoros ( "The Light Bearer" [recalling another powerful underworld spirit whose original name was Lucifer, "the light bearer"]); and 2) Hecate-Propylaia ( "The One Who Guards The Gate")."

"[...] the Festival of Luna, or the ancient Virgin Goddess of the Moon who came to be called Diana. She was identical to the Greek goddess Artemis. Daughter of Jupiter and Latona. Sister of Apollo, she was also the Goddess of Hunting. Diana had three forms: Luna in Heaven, Diana on Earth, and Hecate in the Underworld. Diana was often called Diana Lucifera, Diana the Bringer of Light."
Hecate-Phosphoros, Hecate the Light Bearer and Diana Lucifera, Diana the Bringer of Light.

Things that make you go hhhmmmmm. whistling2.gif


Oooh Thank you again! This is great. I found her name doing a google search, i think the search was something like pagan symbols, and her name popped up on about.com, but i tried to find more info about her, and wasn't having too much luck -- your posts is very helpful original.gif
Goatsucking_goodenss
are you people serious on this spell stuff? are they serious? hmm.gif
plz tell me you dont expect them to work right?
Hermetic Hermit
QUOTE(Goatsucking_goodenss @ Jun 6 2006, 11:08 PM) [snapback]1221541[/snapback]

are you people serious on this spell stuff? are they serious? hmm.gif
plz tell me you dont expect them to work right?


First off the information was requested for a "book", you know a "story". It says it all in the first post, if you noticed.

There was however, if you noticed, a small display of the effect that sigils can have, sometimes things can just pop up for you but rest assured it's not that "spell stuff" just a coincidence yes.gif

So no we're not serious, there's no such thing as magick or spells. Nothing to see here folks, just move along whistling2.gif
Hermetic Hermit
QUOTE(callmefriend @ Jun 6 2006, 01:19 PM) [snapback]1220765[/snapback]

Oooh Thank you again! This is great. I found her name doing a google search, i think the search was something like pagan symbols, and her name popped up on about.com, but i tried to find more info about her, and wasn't having too much luck -- your posts is very helpful original.gif


And again you're welcome. I grabbed some more info for you, not sure if it is needed but I am enjoying digging it up and getting reacquainted...

"Her main area of work was goddess in the world of the dead, of night and darkness, mistress of all the witchcraft and black arts. We must remember that before Christianity the underworld was not the evil place it is considered today...then, it was the resting place of the dead.

During the Middle ages, Hecate became known as Queen of the Ghostworld, or Queen of Witches. She was especially diabolized by Catholic authorities who said the people most dangerous to the faith were precisely those whom Hecate patronized: the midwives. Her ancient threefold power was copied, however, by priestly writers who reassigned it to their own deity. The threefold power of Christ, namely in Heaven, in earth, and in Hell."

"Hecate was accompanied by her dogs, Hermes[ thumbsup.gif ], and her priestesses, Circe and Medea who it is said in some histories were Hecate's daughters. Her dog, who was her sacred animal had been offered to her as a sacrifice. The appearance of black howling dogs at night meant that Hecate was near, and their barking announced her approach.

Then, earth began to bellow, trees to dance
And howling dogs in glimmering light advance
Ere Hecate came.
-Aeneid, Book VL (Dryden)"

Link


"'The From-a-far Powerful' was portrayed most of the time in triple statues with triple faces. (f.e.in Aigina). Her names Trioditis (gr.) Trivia (latin: Goddess of Three Roads) and Tricephalus or Triceps (The Three-Headed) refer to her triple nature. She carries torches, whips, daggers and keys. Hecate is most of the time followed by dogs or wolfs. Sometimes she even has the heads of a snake, dog or lion or three heads and six arms (reference to Kali, indian goddess).

In later times the Triple Hekate took on the form of a pillar called a Hecterion. One such statue depicts her with three heads and six arms, bearing three torches and three sacred emblems - the Key, Rope, and Dagger.

With her key to the underworld, Hekate unlocks the secrets of the occult mysteries and knowledge of the afterlife. The rope, which is also a scourge or cord, symbolizes the umbilical cord of rebirth and renewal. The dagger is related to the curved knife that cuts delusion and is a symbol of power and judgment."

Link


These two links should probably have more than enough info for you, so I will leave it at that. No need for more thanks it's my pleasure. Good luck thumbsup.gif
Paulclitheroe7285
y are u hoping for it in latin or another language (i realise a gd reason for it) but i wanna hear urs....so pls explain
louie
anyone got any links to images like the ones above, but with good things fortune, luck, long life etc etc,, im starting carving designs in stone and looking for good designs to carve but ONLY good things i dont want to pass on bad karma to unsuspecting people.
thanks
Hermetic Hermit
QUOTE(louie @ Jun 8 2006, 09:28 AM) [snapback]1223451[/snapback]

anyone got any links to images like the ones above, but with good things fortune, luck, long life etc etc,, im starting carving designs in stone and looking for good designs to carve but ONLY good things i dont want to pass on bad karma to unsuspecting people.
thanks


Symbols of good things, horseshoe, four-leaf clover, rabbit's foot(all played out), swastika(uhmmm not anymore) and the endless Chinese symbols for good luck/fortune/long life.

But some more unique and interesting ones, could be....

Ganesha - the Hindu deity aka The Lord of Good Fortune (the elephant head one)

user posted image


The Quatrefoil - similar to the four-leaf clover but not as "played out"...

user posted image

Hope this is of some help.
M.A.D
this pagan stuff is not of truth! the seven gods in the sky are the seven powers of god in oneself the only god in truth is jesus, for he walked the earth, god made us in his imadge, through the mother the father and the son this triade of the flesh brought you here what we see ,and with the influents of the mother and father and son of the holy spirit ,plus the mother and father and son of the celastuol thew mind of understanding, just makes you priests and preistesses in worship of a god jesus christ.
Hermetic Hermit
QUOTE(M.A.D @ Jun 8 2006, 02:57 PM) [snapback]1223851[/snapback]

this pagan stuff is not of truth! the seven gods in the sky are the seven powers of god in oneself the only god in truth is jesus, for he walked the earth, god made us in his imadge, through the mother the father and the son this triade of the flesh brought you here what we see ,and with the influents of the mother and father and son of the holy spirit ,plus the mother and father and son of the celastuol thew mind of understanding, just makes you priests and preistesses in worship of a god jesus christ.


Uhhhmmm thanks for that sleepy.gif

Before Jesus there were Pagans, so if anything that "just makes you priests and priestesses in worship of a" Pagan "triade" "god".

That was what you were trying to say right, Christianity can't be escaped, resistance is futile, you will be assimilated, etc. Join us we get presents santa.gif

Does Christianity even have "priestesses"? I thought them folks were too scared of girls to let them into any position of religious authority rolleyes.gif
M.A.D
you mean before jesus there was like cosmic christ but aslo wore that coat of flesh befor and will again through the bloodline, then you men and woman will be priest and priesteses in a god that of truth. didn't you?
Hermetic Hermit
QUOTE(M.A.D @ Jun 8 2006, 04:26 PM) [snapback]1223937[/snapback]

you mean before jesus there was like cosmic christ but aslo wore that coat of flesh befor and will again through the bloodline, then you men and woman will be priest and priesteses in a god that of truth. didn't you?


Uhhm no.

Can you go fishing for impressionable future converts somewhere else please? Or how about adding something relevant to this conversation.

Or how about me and you can have a little discussion here on this thread, how does that sound? What are your thoughts on Lucifer? What do you know of his history?
M.A.D
ya ya ya you are of the dark i'm of the light how about meetting in the middel in the emaculate heart, in truth as one be for the father our god .
ShadowDancer
QUOTE(M.A.D @ Jun 9 2006, 12:50 PM) [snapback]1224872[/snapback]

ya ya ya you are of the dark i'm of the light how about meetting in the middel in the emaculate heart, in truth as one be for the father our god .


lmao!!
But you know M.A.D., from the posts I get the impression of the exact opposite. From you I sense fear and resentment. From Hermetic Hermit I sense helpfulness and compassion as well as humour. Hmmm...... dark vs. Light?
I'd rather be pagan any day. laugh.gif



ShadowDancer
Oh I forgot to add, spells work depending on the amount of energy and intent charged into them. They are called spells but also can be called.... prayer.... because in fact, they are the same thing. Wisheful intentions asked from a spiritual source.

The candles, incense and whatever else are only for aiding in meditation and charging. If you believe in something enough, like a spell or a prayer, it gives it that much more power and possibility to work.
Hermetic Hermit
QUOTE(M.A.D @ Jun 9 2006, 09:50 AM) [snapback]1224872[/snapback]

ya ya ya you are of the dark i'm of the light how about meetting in the middel in the emaculate heart, in truth as one be for the father our god .


OK great you're one that believes Lucifer is the "dark". Now for the real question, why does Jesus call himself the Morning Star(Rev 22:16) when the Morning Star means Lucifer? If Jesus is the Morning Star and the Morning Star is Lucifer and Lucifer is Satan, and God is supposedly Jesus then God = Satan.

Looks like we are the same side but I'm just less obnoxious lol tongue.gif Kidding dude.

But seriously that's quite the discrepancy in the accepted Christian doctrine don't you think? It's like we've been lied to, Jesus claims to be Lucifer, wow. What were you saying about the God of Truth?

Don't worry I'm not singling you out, this is my usual response to the Borg when they knock on my door at dinner time. Why is it always at dinner time?
Hermetic Hermit
QUOTE(ShadowDancer @ Jun 9 2006, 10:23 AM) [snapback]1224914[/snapback]

Oh I forgot to add, spells work depending on the amount of energy and intent charged into them. They are called spells but also can be called.... prayer.... because in fact, they are the same thing. Wisheful intentions asked from a spiritual source.

The candles, incense and whatever else are only for aiding in meditation and charging. If you believe in something enough, like a spell or a prayer, it gives it that much more power and possibility to work.


I couldn't agree more SD. I've said before if it takes two crows feet and a frog testicle to achieve that level of focus then that's what the spell needs. If you can achieve that level of focus or belief without it then giver.

Spells, prayer all the same to me. But the question that that poses is if it can be done without asking God to do it, then is God the one answering prayers or it is the person asking?

Perhaps God is really only an aid, like candles and incense.

Oh and thanks for your kind words wub.gif
Paulclitheroe7285
QUOTE
If Jesus is the Morning Star and the Morning Star is Lucifer and Lucifer is Satan, and God is supposedly Jesus then God = Satan.



im guessing that would give god a spilt personality disorder!

ive always thought of all religions as gas companies...they all have different tariffs where sum will rip u off and others will be ok...but whether they are false money laundering companies or honest companies trying to give u gd service and gas, ur still getting the gas...i see this as with religion..(paganism aswell..which is a religion for those self righteous xtians thinking they are the one true..ok ill stop now!)...but pick one that suits u! lol
M.A.D
i was trying to make a funny in a hostial place but satan clamed the light for his own dening the truth of the father this pagan stuff that i was talking about is the infuence of the mother (earth) and father(moon) of the celes ,although they have both within they still stand as one in truth,
M.A.D
in order to be one with god as one you must understand the flesh and the spirit comming together at the heart ,the pentagram is of protection of the spirit and flesh like the star of david is the ecknowligment of the two
ShadowDancer
QUOTE(Hermetic Hermit @ Jun 9 2006, 02:03 PM) [snapback]1224957[/snapback]

I couldn't agree more SD. Oh and thanks for your kind words wub.gif


YVW original.gif
Imaginary Friend
There's an old chant; "Untie a knot , tie a new knot, bind it and set it free."

It's all a matter of visualization, intent and Passion. Symbols or Icons , are particular to the magic, relative to the emotion behind what one feels the "need" to bind. Being familiar with color magic or energy association, is important if one cares to take it that far.

Healing for instance; The direction of the East is the portal of spirit. The left hand , if you spread your arms and legs apart one appears as the symbol of macrocosm. The left hand is the channel of spirit / universal power. Some people erect an altar in the East part of the room or grove, they work in so as to be at the threshold of that energies power source.

Purple, Lavender, Indigo. Perhaps for the aid of helping someone survive, recover, maintain remission, of cancer. In the darkness, in a quiet place, safe from interruption, that place where one feels embraced in their own thoughts , free of the outside world. Sit, with a single candle aflame. Perhaps the color of the yarn or other rope like material you are using for the spell.

First light the candle with a wooden match. Not a lighter. These are the old arts your intention is summoning. So maintaining an air of the old ways is in keeping with opening that channel, the door, to the mind and that place that is eternally present in the ether of re-call. If your altar or table, that the candle sits upon, needs a cloth or drape of some kind, choose what feels right to you, if anything of a cover at all does come to mind. This represents the root of the other world, the world of that one you seek to assist to gain strength in their personal challenge. It is your visual, mental and emotional focus point to "see" their need in their world. (Perhaps you can get a cloth that is that of their favorite color, or perhaps if they are fond of animals you might consider an animal print. Easily found at WalMart, or any sewing center. If you shop for such things do so with the one you intend to commit this working for, at the forefront of your vision. Have them in your minds eye from the moment you set off for that particular task at hand. Be it altar/table cloth, candle(s), incense, etc...) Ask the powers you intend to invoke for this work, to guide you to what is simply necessary and open to what answers arrive.)

When you light the candle focus on the one you seek to assist with finding their strength and inner guidance to the truth. Focus on the candle(s) on the altar/table. No other light to distract that visual cue, just the flame alive and independent , channeling the gate to insight.

When you feel ready, take the **string, yarn, etc... that you have selected for this sole purpose.

(Side note: **Consider cleansing the materials in this ritual before you begin. As they just came from the commercial market place and have had many hands (energies) infusing them since the creation of them began. Washing the altar/table cloth, in natural detergent without softener and letting it to line dry, for instance. Taking a ritual bath(shower) yourself before beginning, is always good to cleanse the body temple for the soul purpose of giving oneself to the service of another.)

Cut a length of the yarn as long as from the tip of your middle finger (Think of the hands four fingers and thumb, as the five powers that imbue all creation. (earth,air,fire, water, spirit.)
The middle finger is the spirit point. And measure the string from the tip of the middle finger to the top of your shoulder. The distance should be roughly the same as that between that middle finger tip and the center of your forehead. (The third eye). (re; cleansing. Perhaps you can place the cut length into a earthenware bowl filled with spring water and sea salt, for three days , starting on the cusp of the new moon. (beginning of the waxing phase) (check your calendar or this site, for times) right at the very last cycle of the dark mother. The dark moon appears ten and a half to fourteen days after the full mother. (dark moon, or last of the waning phase just before she turns to the new light again). This time or any moon time you choose, can be utilized for all ritual preparation, including your bath/shower, if you so choose. Remember, there is power within you waiting to manifest your will. If it feels right, do it! Books are just other peoples diaries of that communication with the inner powers that are there to be summoned and speak. You are the channel of your will and intent, always.

Cleansing the yarn/string, during the last of the dark mothers cycle and at the cusp of the new daughter, allows a release of the material/commercial energies invested in creating the articles one works with. It then imbues, at the turn of the new moon, the materials with new light, new life, a fresh start, at your hands.

Untie a knot, tie a new knot bind it and set it free.

hold the string in the your left hand, the left is the channel to the spirit gate, (east , in that aforementioned human pentacle pose.user posted image

Run your right hand down the string, keeping the candle flame you had previously focused upon, in your minds eye as you close your eyes. See that flame in the darkness behind your lids. That beacon that keeps you connected to the subject of your work. (healing, in this example, and your friend/family member, etc..)
As you run your right hand down the string, see it as their body and your hands are that touch of healing and care, love and empathy, seeking to soothe the pain away. Visualize those special energies and emotions you wish to impart to the need of your subject (friend, family member in need of healing). See them as clearly as you can, accepting this gentle loving gift of your compassion and love to see them happy and healthy again.

Then when it feels right , open your eyes (or not. It's all your inner communication that guides you, through your emotional bond with this one you seek to assist in their journey. This is just an example generally). Begin to work your hands down the length of the yarn, tie a knot and imagine as you do, the twining of that thread encircling what ever it is that ails your subject. See "it" in your minds eye as you work, being encircled and contained , removed from your friends body so as to stop the suffering it causes there.

You may feel inspired to chant or say something as you do this. Words are power and as the currents of your visualization, your emotion for this work flow so to do the words that give your intention shape.

"I bind this cancer from doing harm" As you entwine the thread and make the knot. When the knot is finished see it taken from your subjects body, and lifted up into the fibers of the knot. Freeing the flesh of the torment there. Do this the entire length of the rope, get it all within the confines of those knots of purpose in healing the suffering, the pain , that cripples the body temple of your loved one. When you have finished tieing the knots the full length of the thread, tie the ends together so the entire piece is now bound into a circle. Once tied it no longer appears to have a beginning or an end. It is all contained there, away from the circle of energies that commune to manifest what you see as your loved one.

Bury the knotted piece in fresh soil outside at the North direction. North is the portal/gate of Earth power, and if possible, on your private property or somewhere where you know no one will disturb it. (If this is not possible out of doors, get a ceramic/earthenware bowl and fill it with dirt from somewhere outside or if not available , untreated store bought potting soil. (can cleanse store bought soil by putting it in a different earthenware bowl than used for this ritual, in the east for three days and nights, to allow sun and moon power to remove the energy of the commercial market)

Let it rest in the soil, covered over completely, there for 3 days and nights. This saturates the fibers, that captured disturbance of erratic energies called "disease" in your friend, with the whole of power, so that the greater power overcomes the lesser and takes from it its power to be. In this case, "disease" "cancer", etc... On the fourth day (preferably at high sun without overcast) , after another bath/shower, dig up the string and put a small iron cauldron or any fireproof bowl like container and sit this cauldron/container, back into the soil from whence you just removed it. Then untie the circle and visualize opening the loop and setting free the fibers that served to contain this trouble, healing them and thanking them for committing themselves to your bidding. See the fibers and each knot as you untie it, releasing like butterflies in a vivid burst of ascent into the purifying light of the sun. Lifting off and taking flight into the light, residue of disquiet, pain, suffering, burned away in the rays of infinite and perfect power.

After you've released every knot, seeing your friends body released of the grip of that disquiet held there in the body, hold the string with your left hand and run your right hand, wrapped around the string, down the full length , imagining your friends body temple pure, warm in the sun and perfectly free of all those points of pain and disharmony. Alive and pulsating with new life, new hope and health.

Feel all those emotions you have for your friend as you gently grasp the string in both hands. Speak to them, (the string) and send them a prayer that affirms their healing, rather than asks for it or beseeching for it. As your will has already affirmed the change that is! See it as done, see what you want for your loved one. Healing, peace, health, as present! Rather than a thing hoped for. See it as real and give it that part of yourself that makes it feel that way.

You know how someone you care for hurts and it's so easy to say; "I'd give anything if I could help...."? Give this. See it as manifest. Your friend is as you want and they want (it must be the will of the subject to be healed. ) for the life you both hold dear.

After you have finished speaking your feelings and thanks to your friends spirit (the string), lay it down into the bowl and release them from the room. See the subject (friend) leaving the fibers of the thread and lifting through that eastern spirit gate, away and whole , happy and healed. So that when you look at the string again, it simply is string, with no emotional connect to your loved one.

Then take the wooden matches and burn the string, have a window open in the east (if possible in that direction or any window in the room will do. You don't want to contain the smoke in your sacred space) and release the work. Say something if you feel compelled, in thanks giving for the attention of the powers, to your will.

"I release you unto the primordial soul, thank you and be free".

When the string is completely consumed, bring the flames/smoke/ peace, by slowly pouring the water spirit over it, in a counter clockwise motion. This further releases the powers out of the area. Clockwise directions invoke or bring forth, counterclockwise releases power from a place.

You may feel like doing a meditation after this. What ever feels right, pay attention and choose.

Then when you are finished and the remnants of the thread in the cauldron are no longer smoldering, take the bowl/cauldron, outside and pour it onto the soil. Walk away from that spot, then walk to the grass in the nearby area and with your right hand pause over that spot and ask for the power to cleanse the cauldron of it's work. Then gently remove a handful of grass, (just tear it gently away) and place it in the cauldron. With your left hand swish it around as you would a towel, counter clockwise until the grass is saturated with the wet remnants in the bottom. Then take the handful of grass, as much as you can get out of the cauldron/bowl, and from a standing position give thanks and let it fall randomly from your hands, back to it's mother.

Then turn and walk away from the area and do not look back. It is over, your will is done.


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Paulclitheroe7285
whew!...probably no1 is going to read all of that?
Imaginary Friend
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whew!...probably no1 is going to read all of that?


Whew! Then perhaps it isn't meant for them. original.gif
Hermetic Hermit
Hello my name is no1 and I enjoyed the read.

I am always interested in the methods used by others. I believe a lot can be gleaned about others by the way they describe their method and especially the language they use while doing so. Is it short and sweet, long and precise, is their emotion that flows from start to finish?

ImFr I like what was said about cleansing yourself and especially any materials you plan on using that may still contain commercial energies. I like to cleanse any objects or materials with natural flowing water and dried by the sun's heat. It's hard to say how many people have touched something before it was purchased by you. I for one touch everything before I buy it, especially clothing, with the intent to get a "feel" from it.

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Imaginary Friend
QUOTE(Hermetic Hermit @ Jun 12 2006, 11:53 AM) [snapback]1228416[/snapback]

Hello my name is no1 and I enjoyed the read.

I am always interested in the methods used by others. I believe a lot can be gleaned about others by the way they describe their method and especially the language they use while doing so. Is it short and sweet, long and precise, is their emotion that flows from start to finish?

ImFr I like what was said about cleansing yourself and especially any materials you plan on using that may still contain commercial energies. I like to cleanse any objects or materials with natural flowing water and dried by the sun's heat. It's hard to say how many people have touched something before it was purchased by you. I for one touch everything before I buy it, especially clothing, with the intent to get a "feel" from it.

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I can hear you speaking these words as I read. Thank you for your sincere heart.

I too know what you mean about shopping by touch. wink2.gif
ShadowDancer
It's true we get vibes from objects, some things scream out to us "buy me"! I know I get yelled at all the time!
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Hermetic Hermit
Speaking of shopping, I have been contemplating this for some time now. I seem to possess a curse/blessing when it comes to buying things. Not everytime and everything but enough times in my life that it has gotten past frustrating and has almost become funny to me. Many things that I buy just don't work right or are missing a 'piece', but it's always boxed or packaged items. Recently, as in the past few months, it took me two cracked/chipped aquariums to get one that worked and three bad sticks of RAM to get one that worked.

I call it a curse because it seems I always have to return things to get one that works but I call it a blessing because the one that I finally get is all around a better deal. It's like something forces me to return things until I find a sale or a better quality product somewhere else. It used to be really frustrating until I realized that it works out best in the end and is a good test of patience. Good things come to those who wait.

Oh ya, and thank you IFriend.
3rd rock resident alien
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So no we're not serious, there's no such thing as magick or spells. Nothing to see here folks, just move along whistling2.gif

Once upon a time, I came upon some group of kids doing some spell stuff. The 3 or 5 worded chants sounded latin. I watch them experimenting with it and it did work causing their friends arm to raise above his head while his eyes were closed. When they tell their friend to open his eyes, he was a little bit scared that his arms were raised above his head.

I asked those kids what will the spells actually do to their friend and they said they don't know but they find it amusing to see the effect on their friend to unconsiously raised his arms.

I kindly asked them how to do it and told me to just recite the latin sounded chants on someone agreeing to be the willing object of the spells while their eyes were closed. At home I gathered some friends and see if they are willing to be the object of a spells and I find that it works. Some of my skeptical friends find it hard to believe seeing themselves with raised hands above their head.

I cannot provide the actual spells for I forgot what it sounds. I'm sure it was in latin.

Hermetic Hermit
QUOTE(3rd rock resident alien @ Aug 16 2006, 04:24 AM) [snapback]1310167[/snapback]

Once upon a time, I came upon some group of kids doing some spell stuff. The 3 or 5 worded chants sounded latin. I watch them experimenting with it and it did work causing their friends arm to raise above his head while his eyes were closed. When they tell their friend to open his eyes, he was a little bit scared that his arms were raised above his head.

I asked those kids what will the spells actually do to their friend and they said they don't know but they find it amusing to see the effect on their friend to unconsiously raised his arms.

I kindly asked them how to do it and told me to just recite the latin sounded chants on someone agreeing to be the willing object of the spells while their eyes were closed. At home I gathered some friends and see if they are willing to be the object of a spells and I find that it works. Some of my skeptical friends find it hard to believe seeing themselves with raised hands above their head.

I cannot provide the actual spells for I forgot what it sounds. I'm sure it was in latin.


LOL I've tried that one too and the "Light as a feather, stiff as a board" one among others. Children have much better success with these types of "magic games", it's their mentality, a mentality that some adults need to reaquaint themselves with to be successful at. Their imagination and "it will if I want it to" attitude is a potent combination for results. Like the Victorian seances, participants sing songs, tell jokes, have the lights low or off to make things "spooky", all having the purpose of regressing the participants to a more childish state of mind. Personally I have used in the past a familiar song from childhood (ex. Chim Chim Cheree - Mary Poppins song), to tap into this mentality and regress to a more childish state.

It should be said however that, for example the spell you mentioned, there is no magic in words, even latin words lol, but repeated words or chants give one the focus one's mind needs to achieve results. It's all about outsmarting your own brain, in my opinion rofl.gif

Oh and nice to see an old thread resurrected, and just for clarification, I don't consider myself a witch though I have replied in this thread which was directed at "witches on the board".
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