Yona
Jun 6 2006, 02:09 AM
Well, I looked, and I decided a Tanka Topic would be fun to start. Basically it is
a haiku, but with 5,7,2,7,7 syllables instead of 5,7,5
FrankBlunt
Jun 6 2006, 03:35 AM
Summer has arrived
Time for ice cream and sunburns
Cool down
Belly flop into a pool
Cannon ball to drench your friends
Maelstrom5
Jun 7 2006, 12:36 AM
Let's see if I can remember the sequence: 5,7,2,7,7....
Twenty white chickens
They wander my yard, seeking
Earthworms
Eating, clucking, and pecking
Mobile lawn decorations
FrankBlunt
Jun 7 2006, 05:32 AM
Anxious for the game
Loitering in parking lots
Drinking
Marbles lost, babbling nonsense
Athletes falling from armchairs
Maelstrom5
Jun 8 2006, 01:06 AM
Night dies, stars wink out
Each one yeilding to the dawn
Light blooms
A purple flower turns to gold
All herald the waking sun
ABOTU
Jun 8 2006, 01:10 AM
What a shameless world.
With no apologies, we
Don't care.
Someday we will live in peace.
And love will reign over us.
Maelstrom5
Jun 9 2006, 01:10 AM
Sand trickling in glass
time slipped slowly by today
Sorrow
For those days I can't retrieve
And yet another fades away
FrankBlunt
Jun 11 2006, 07:29 AM
Reincarnation
Why we fall asleep in school
Cycles
Doomed to repeat history
Whether remembered or not
Jack_of_Blades
Jun 12 2006, 12:48 AM
Three stupid seagulls
flew in my car last weekend.
Seagulls
have to be stupid or blind.
Had fried seagull the next day!
Bearly
Jun 12 2006, 01:16 AM
soft sigh of regret
sweet chance lost, and sparks that dimmed
a lass
the dream gone, her smile remains
treasured diamond in the sand
Jack_of_Blades
Jun 12 2006, 03:13 AM
The lovely redhead
who i dare not pronounce love.
True love.
I shall never again love
another woman but her.
I had a little insperation from
the heart for this one.
Maelstrom5
Jun 14 2006, 01:59 AM
QUOTE(Bearly @ Jun 12 2006, 01:16 AM) [snapback]1227657[/snapback]
soft sigh of regret
sweet chance lost, and sparks that dimmed
a lass
the dream gone, her smile remains
treasured diamond in the sand
Very nice! Beautifully done
Maelstrom5
Jun 14 2006, 02:10 AM
So then the rains came
The iron grey sky, it weeps
Torrents
Water trails down window glass
Hurricane season is here
Bearly
Jun 14 2006, 10:50 PM
QUOTE(Maelstrom5 @ Jun 14 2006, 02:59 AM) [snapback]1230546[/snapback]
Very nice! Beautifully done

Thanks so much Maelstrom. Your first post on this site about regreting days passing by inspired me. I like the one above also.
Bearly
Jun 15 2006, 12:12 AM
huddled by the fire
ashes of her lonely world
approached
warm silk brushing tired legs
rhythmic purring, neither spoke
(dedicated to my cat Leo that passed away many years ago)
Bearly
Jun 16 2006, 12:11 AM
I have done some online research on Tanka, and it appears that the standard syllable arrangement is actually 5,7,5,7,7 and not 5,7,2,7,7. In fact, I could find no reference to a 5,7,2,7,7 arrangement. But, ultimately is doesn't matter, as most American Tanka's organizations recognize that the syllables in Japanese and English language differ. And considering the nice poems on this thread, this 5, 7,2, format works very well. Maybe we need to make up a new name for it

Perhaps Yona found this format elsewhere? Besides, it's his thread, so he can set the rules.
Maelstrom5
Jun 16 2006, 01:37 AM
QUOTE(Bearly @ Jun 15 2006, 12:12 AM) [snapback]1231804[/snapback]
huddled by the fire
ashes of her lonely world
approached
warm silk brushing tired legs
rhythmic purring, neither spoke
(dedicated to my cat Leo that passed away many years ago)
How sweet! I love cats, so I can definitely identify with this. Well done!
Maelstrom5
Jun 16 2006, 01:40 AM
QUOTE(Bearly @ Jun 16 2006, 12:11 AM) [snapback]1233229[/snapback]
I have done some online research on Tanka, and it appears that the standard syllable arrangement is actually 5,7,5,7,7 and not 5,7,2,7,7. In fact, I could find no reference to a 5,7,2,7,7 arrangement. But, ultimately is doesn't matter, as most American Tanka's organizations recognize that the syllables in Japanese and English language differ. And considering the nice poems on this thread, this 5, 7,2, format works very well. Maybe we need to make up a new name for it

Perhaps Yona found this format elsewhere? Besides, it's his thread, so he can set the rules.
Interesting... Good point. You know, for some reason I do like the two-syllable 'pause' in the dead center of the poem, the use of a single word or pair of words there is a nice touch when reading the final product.
Bearly
Jun 16 2006, 02:32 AM
QUOTE(Maelstrom5 @ Jun 16 2006, 02:40 AM) [snapback]1233334[/snapback]
Interesting... Good point. You know, for some reason I do like the two-syllable 'pause' in the dead center of the poem, the use of a single word or pair of words there is a nice touch when reading the final product.
Thanks Maelstrom5 for the compliments. It's flattering that someone is enjoying my poems, as they do take some effort. I like the one you did about the sunrise also.
And I agree. The pause in the dead center is almost like a pivot point. It can also be used as a spot for contemplation, a change in pace, a contecting idea or a theme statement.
This link discusses the differences between english syllables and 'morae'. Morae is what the japanese are counting. This link explains that the word london would count as two syllables, but the Japanese would count four 'morae' in this word. The japanese count morae, while the Westerners count syllables.
http://www.worldhaiku.net/archive/onji.pdf.
Here's another link on tanka that people might find interesting.
http://www.ahapoetry.com/tanka.htm
Maelstrom5
Jun 16 2006, 03:09 AM
QUOTE(Bearly @ Jun 16 2006, 02:32 AM) [snapback]1233385[/snapback]
This link discusses the differences between english syllables and 'morae'. Morae is what the japanese are counting. This link explains that the word london would count as two syllables, but the Japanese would count four 'morae' in this word. The japanese count morae, while the Westerners count syllables.
http://www.worldhaiku.net/archive/onji.pdf.
Here's another link on tanka that people might find interesting.
http://www.ahapoetry.com/tanka.htmThanks for the links, quite a neat subject this has become!
Bearly
Jun 17 2006, 11:36 PM
Mountains of coral
some hidden beneath the waves
atoll
that sand dollars could not pay
salty tears raising the sea
The title is 'Shipwreck'
hint, hint
Maelstrom5
Jun 18 2006, 11:46 PM
Pause for reflection
Mirrors, water, blackened glass
They lie
Backwards worlds, seen in reverse
Slip through, drown in vanity
Bearly
Jun 19 2006, 01:15 PM
QUOTE(Maelstrom5 @ Jun 19 2006, 12:46 AM) [snapback]1236603[/snapback]
Pause for reflection
Mirrors, water, blackened glass
They lie
Backwards worlds, seen in reverse
Slip through, drown in vanity
I like this one a lot Jillian. Well done. I like poems that makes one think, and ones that use multiple meanings of words
Maelstrom5
Jun 21 2006, 12:27 AM
QUOTE(Bearly @ Jun 19 2006, 01:15 PM) [snapback]1237206[/snapback]
I like poems that makes one think, and ones that use multiple meanings of words
Tanks, umm, I mean, Thanks! (Tanka on the brain)
Bearly
Jun 30 2006, 01:45 AM
QUOTE(Maelstrom5 @ Jun 21 2006, 01:27 AM) [snapback]1239429[/snapback]
Tanks, umm, I mean, Thanks! (Tanka on the brain)
Bearly
Jun 30 2006, 02:44 AM
faint sweet melody
dreams are held then slip away
wind chimes
soft whisper in lover's ear
passions of nature revealed
enjoy!
Maelstrom5
Jul 1 2006, 03:29 AM
QUOTE(Bearly @ Jun 30 2006, 02:44 AM) [snapback]1251995[/snapback]
faint sweet melody
dreams are held then slip away
wind chimes
soft whisper in lover's ear
passions of nature revealed
Ooooh, like this one! Nice work!
Bearly
Aug 27 2006, 10:53 PM
shaped by nature's wind
leaves kissed by the setting sun
lone tree grown through rock
flowers will bear it's sweet fruit
a true master of patience
I used 57577 format as explained in previous post
Bearly
Aug 27 2006, 11:09 PM
Here are some interesting facts about tanka, its more spicy than you may think.
It's from this link
http://www.ahapoetry.com/giftank.htmQUOTE
From tanka's long history - over 1300 years recorded in Japan - the most famous use of the poetry form was as secret messages between lovers.
Arriving home in the morning, after having dallied with a lover all night, it became the custom of well-mannered persons of the Imperial Court to write an immediate thank-you note for the pleasures of the hospitality. Stylized into a convenient five lines of 5-7-5-7-7 onji [sound syllables much shorter than those in English], the little poem expressing one's feelings were sent either in a special paper container, written on a fan, or knotted to a branch or stem of a single blossom. This was delivered to the lover by personal messenger who then was given something to drink along with his chance to flirt with the household staff. During this interval a responding tanka was to be written in reply which he would return to his master.
It was not an easy task for the writer, who had probably been either awake or engaged in strenuous activities all night, to write a verse that related, in some manner, to the previous note, that expressed (carefully) one's feelings, and which titillated enough to cause the sender to want to return again that evening. Added to this dilemma was the need to get the giggling servants back to work and the personal messenger on his way with a note so written that he wouldn't know exactly what was what but with the references and illusory comments the beloved would understand and appreciate.
In a society that accepted the fact that marriage vows were financial and social leaving affairs to trigger adrenalin and the arts, the chore of writing those morning-after notes was raised to an exercise in poetic genius. A woman who, after being wakened from a well-deserved sleep, could cope with brush, solid ink, and words, was assured of more lovers (and hence, more financial support) than the contortionist on the mattress.
So treasured became tanka - and so eager were men and women to improve their own works - that contests were regularly held for the purpose of writing, judging, and reading tanka. So necessary was a body of esteemed works to which one could refer, and be inspired, and borrow from when all else failed, that the emperors decreed the collection of anthologies beginning around 700 AD
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