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Kaknelson
This is a question maybe someone has already made a post about. Infact, i was just too lazy to check it out.

However, my question is as follows: (try to get off all that 666 talk)

I know of those who believe that the "Second Comming" of Christ is here. Walking the earth today. Could the saviour be here...? Is this true?

And if so... where is he/she to be found, America, Africa, Prison, Captivation? Or is this person still young and unaware of his/her duties to fullfill for the almighty.

Could it be me or you, probably not, becuase we have sinned and/or and born sinners.

So do you believe the 2nd comming is on earth? And where?

(Please Athiests, and General Religious Skeptics... don't just come in and say "Jesus" never existed lol) yes.gif Thanks!!!!
A+Certified
well i dont believe he is here, nor will he ever come back.

i dont doubt that he was real, i just doubt he was "son of god"


if he were here, who would he be?
Kaknelson
That is exactly my question. I wish he was hear. We need another brother Moses. grin2.gif
Avius
We are all godam equal, we all can do what jesus did but its people like jesus that makes us beleive and unable to do the impossible
__Kratos__
If he is... I'm going to stake him to the cross... Again. tongue.gif

I really do doubt he is, as Jesus was just your common con man.
TheGreatWhiteHorse
con man, preacher, savior, whatever.

Fact of the matter is that the bible says nothing of Jesus 'walking the earth' waiting for judgement day. It speaks of the antichrist being alive and well and that Jesus will not set foot upon the earth until the VERY end, to stop the war of armageddon. All those taken away in the 'rapture' will supposedly meet jesus halfway in the sky.

You may be too lazy to do a topic search, but at least get the bare essential facts in order before starting a thread. w00t.gif

B.T.W. It's all rubbish. Jesus was a rabbinical preacher and nothing more.
Kaknelson
QUOTE(TheGreatWhiteHorse @ Jun 6 2006, 10:22 PM) [snapback]1221471[/snapback]

con man,
You may be too lazy to do a topic search, but at least get the bare essential facts.



GGRRRrrrrrrrr........

This was a quick question I created, basically to get off all the 666 talk!

It was merely my comments and or opinion .

Thanks for your chirping. innocent.gif
TheGreatWhiteHorse
You are mis-quoting me. That is rude. Your quote reads as though I called you a con man and I didnt. I was echoing Kratos.

You said Jesus could be walking the Earth and I told you why that question neednt be asked with a bit of reading. Revelation or any other book never says anything about Jesus being 'alive and waiting' for the end of the world.

Sorry if my 'chirping' threw the monkey wrench of actual facts into your fun thread.
Kaknelson
QUOTE(TheGreatWhiteHorse @ Jun 6 2006, 10:36 PM) [snapback]1221485[/snapback]

You are mis-quoting me. That is rude. Your quote reads as though I called you a con man and I didnt. I was echoing Kratos.

You said Jesus could be walking the Earth and I told you why that question neednt be asked with a bit of reading. Revelation or any other book never says anything about Jesus being 'alive and waiting' for the end of the world.

Sorry if my 'chirping' threw the monkey wrench of actual facts into your fun thread.


Sorry there, its just funny how if one posts anything about jesus on UM that everyone calls him a phoney or con-man until about the 2nd page.

The fact is not one of us was around during his time, so why be sure about your statements. I said that i've heard ppl tell me that the second comming of christ is here, this was my question. I find it difficult to research this question.

Which copy of the bible do you have? King James Version??

Because this is the one i trust.
TheGreatWhiteHorse
While Im not a Christian, I do a ton of work with all major religions and think it is important to respect and appreciate them. I too find it upsetting how someone just types "jesus" in their thread and everyone swarms in trying to call their religion or their god all sorts of names. I mean, honestly...I wouldnt dare.

I didnt mean to sound that way, and Im sorry if I came off as an a$s..Ive had a long day. I was wrong to jump in your thread and be abrasive.

I know I said it was rubbish...but thats what I believe it is. I call Jesus a rabbinical preacher and mean no offense with the term. Jesus conned no one...if any conniving was done it was by the church that followed.

Yeah, Im going by the KJ and NIV, although both are re-writes, they are very similar and the effect is the same. In those books it speaks of the end times as the time when the wheels are in motion and the antichrist and the beast are alive and well. I think you were just a bit mixed up, is all. Jesus doesnt set foot upon the ground until he finally steps in (literally) to end the war of Armageddon. It is the antichrist that may walk the earth even now.

It is a question for the ages, literally and truly. Throughout time man has talked of the end times. Quotes about the wickedness of man surely bringing about the end have been recorded since not long after the time of Jesus himself! In the 30s-40s most of the Christian world was certain that Hitler was the antichrist and WWII was Armageddon. It is a popular idea because it is sensational and, quite frankly, scary.

Hope that helps, and sorry again for being a d*ck.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Lot of anger when it comes to religion. I am not religious but I am happy for people that find peace with it. I think Jesus, if he existed, was a man. A wise one for peaching peace and love. No second coming though.
Kaknelson
QUOTE(TheGreatWhiteHorse @ Jun 6 2006, 11:12 PM) [snapback]1221543[/snapback]

While Im not a Christian, I do a ton of work with all major religions and think it is important to respect and appreciate them. I too find it upsetting how someone just types "jesus" in their thread and everyone swarms in trying to call their religion or their god all sorts of names. I mean, honestly...I wouldnt dare.

I didnt mean to sound that way, and Im sorry if I came off as an a$s..Ive had a long day. I was wrong to jump in your thread and be abrasive.

I know I said it was rubbish...but thats what I believe it is. I call Jesus a rabbinical preacher and mean no offense with the term. Jesus conned no one...if any conniving was done it was by the church that followed.

Yeah, Im going by the KJ and NIV, although both are re-writes, they are very similar and the effect is the same. In those books it speaks of the end times as the time when the wheels are in motion and the antichrist and the beast are alive and well. I think you were just a bit mixed up, is all. Jesus doesnt set foot upon the ground until he finally steps in (literally) to end the war of Armageddon. It is the antichrist that may walk the earth even now.

It is a question for the ages, literally and truly. Throughout time man has talked of the end times. Quotes about the wickedness of man surely bringing about the end have been recorded since not long after the time of Jesus himself! In the 30s-40s most of the Christian world was certain that Hitler was the antichrist and WWII was Armageddon. It is a popular idea because it is sensational and, quite frankly, scary.

Hope that helps, and sorry again for being a d*ck.



No man not at all. Tis defninitly a touchy topic though, anger can spark easily.

I like your post. But like you said "Jesus doesnt set foot upon the ground until he finally steps in (literally) to end the war of Armageddon." - I highly doubt Jesus would just "appear" during the war of Amageddon magically, rationally, but then again who knows. How do you know the war of Armageddon is not right now? I suppose that it's quite valid to say that the war of Good vs Evil is now stronger than ever, maybe not to you and i as we see peace in our democracies, but definitly STRONG. I would imagine that the second comming would more subtle and realistic, he would be born and raised just as all of us are, and he was before, unable to sin.

In other words, he could very well be here now. Couldn't he ? yes.gif

TheGreatWhiteHorse
Well you know, when you put it that way, I suppose that is a definite possibility. God is supposed to work within the rules of his creation, right? So I guess Jesus just going *POOF* and appearing is a bit off. Thats a unique take...very interesting. Maybe the biblical wording meant that he wouldnt make himself KNOWN until the end.

As for Armageddon, I think, if it is real, than it is a definite possibility that these could be the opening stages of it...although I remember my family saying the same thing about the first Gulf War in the 90's. The "false peace" is one to watch for, though...although some say it may have already happened.

Maybe (I must clarify with 'if this is true' ) we arent supposed to notice it happening...to sort of see what choices we would naturally make.
Kaknelson
QUOTE(TheGreatWhiteHorse @ Jun 6 2006, 11:36 PM) [snapback]1221568[/snapback]

Well you know, when you put it that way, I suppose that is a definite possibility. God is supposed to work within the rules of his creation, right? So I guess Jesus just going *POOF* and appearing is a bit off. Thats a unique take...very interesting. Maybe the biblical wording meant that he wouldnt make himself KNOWN until the end.

As for Armageddon, I think, if it is real, than it is a definite possibility that these could be the opening stages of it...although I remember my family saying the same thing about the first Gulf War in the 90's. The "false peace" is one to watch for, though...although some say it may have already happened.

Maybe (I must clarify with 'if this is true' ) we arent supposed to notice it happening...to sort of see what choices we would naturally make.


Yees brother. That is the beauty of the bible it's metaphorical side is unique.
It is rarely blatent.

I like your ideology of false peace. You cannot make much peace with war, as we have learned in history, and over the years. WE SHOULD learn from our mistakes, in that LOVE is the only answer, not WAR and order. I don't mean to sound preachy. But like you say if the bible is right, we would not know if it is happening.

Would Jesus be aware that he was Jesus do you think? If he was here that is?
Proud Mexican
WELL ITS POSSIBLE HE'S HERE..BUT YOU GOTTA REMEMBER THEY SAID THERE WOULD BE FALSE PROPHETS AND ONLY "TRUE" BELIEVERS" WOULD BE ABLE TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE
Kaknelson
QUOTE(Proud Mexican @ Jun 26 2006, 08:56 PM) [snapback]1247520[/snapback]

WELL ITS POSSIBLE HE'S HERE..BUT YOU GOTTA REMEMBER THEY SAID THERE WOULD BE FALSE PROPHETS AND ONLY "TRUE" BELIEVERS" WOULD BE ABLE TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE


Well. My hispanic brother... who would this be, in your eyes? The true believers that is.
SAMURAI-X
One could say he is alive through us, but I do not believe he has come back yet, we would know if he was
JC2
Booo, guess who, aaarrrrrr… innocent.gif
The Godfather
this so called god, he aint here, jesus aint here they were nefver here im not a slave for a god that doesnt exist...
JoeyBombs
Sorry to disappoint guys but I'm pretty sure Jesus died on a cross a couple of thousand years ago. So he's NOT alive today.

Granted he was resurrected and all but I doubt he's been hiding out in tombs for the centuries gone by.

He's got a pretty good reputation though ay?
Kaknelson
QUOTE(JoeyBombs @ Jun 27 2006, 07:38 AM) [snapback]1248022[/snapback]

Sorry to disappoint guys but I'm pretty sure Jesus died on a cross a couple of thousand years ago. So he's NOT alive today.

Granted he was resurrected and all but I doubt he's been hiding out in tombs for the centuries gone by.

He's got a pretty good reputation though ay?


Yup, the definition of GOOD.

Anyways, if he was alive on earth, babylon beware and prepare!!!! MUAHAHAHAHAAA! innocent.gif
demonic presence
yeah Jesus is alive, he lives down the street from me he just moved to the US from Mexico (i think hes an illegal immagrent) lololol grin2.gif
Boltwave
QUOTE(The Godfather @ Jun 27 2006, 07:17 AM) [snapback]1247939[/snapback]

this so called god, he aint here, jesus aint here they were nefver here im not a slave for a god that doesnt exist...


Hehehe, that's hillarious. tongue.gif
JC2
QUOTE(Boltwave @ Jun 28 2006, 04:12 PM) [snapback]1249740[/snapback]

Hehehe, that's hillarious. tongue.gif


Sorry guys, had a warning from the voices in my head, have to stay off the radar, wish I could come and play….. Aaaaaaarrrrrrrrrr

Later dudes, wont be long…… just waiting for the two witnesses to show up and I complete the trinity till then, keep smiling….. w00t.gif
Mr. Fahrenheit
QUOTE
Hehehe, that's hillarious.

Why do you assume he's joking? I was just about to say something similar...
exeller
It will be Christs THIRD Coming, and he will most likely appear in europe, in Israel.
We will know of his coming in around 5-7 years. Little secret, he will most likely be incarnate in a body identical to the body he had during his first coming.

Answer to your question, YES, JESUS LIVES!
Kaknelson
QUOTE(exe11er @ Jun 28 2006, 03:18 PM) [snapback]1250292[/snapback]

It will be Christs THIRD Coming, and he will most likely appear in europe, in Israel.
We will know of his coming in around 5-7 years. Little secret, he will most likely be incarnate in a body identical to the body he had during his first coming.

Answer to your question, YES, JESUS LIVES!


Afrikan?

or olive?

Blonde haired, blue eyed?
R3KR
Ya hes here in numbers, my GF's uncles....there are at least 10 jesus's here.
exeller
QUOTE
Afrikan?

or olive?

Blonde haired, blue eyed?


We shall soon see devil.gif
Bahamut_0
Am I the only one that finds this idea tottaly idiotic?
exeller
QUOTE(Bahamut_0 @ Jun 30 2006, 03:39 PM) [snapback]1252519[/snapback]

Am I the only one that finds this idea tottaly idiotic?


No, but everything will be as clear as glass, SOON. That is, if you're not a really really really old man.
Bosanchero
QUOTE(__Kratos__ @ Jun 7 2006, 04:25 AM) [snapback]1221408[/snapback]

If he is... I'm going to stake him to the cross... Again. tongue.gif

I really do doubt he is, as Jesus was just your common con man.



no.gif no.gif no.gif what kind of person are you no.gif no.gif no.gif u heartless little man no.gif no.gif no.gif


Need some help ??? happy.gif
Kaknelson
Now, now!

Kratos is entitled to his opinion, yes.

But just to add, this is an open question. And, if your an athiest... beat it, basically. NOTHING AGAINST ATHIESM. Just, it can prevoke anger in others. The comments aren't negative, so to speak, to me, but to others maybe.
JC2
QUOTE(Kaknelson @ Jul 1 2006, 07:54 AM) [snapback]1253751[/snapback]

Now, now!

Kratos is entitled to his opinion, yes.

But just to add, this is an open question. And, if your an athiest... beat it, basically. NOTHING AGAINST ATHIESM. Just, it can prevoke anger in others. The comments aren't negative, so to speak, to me, but to others maybe.



So the question is……. Is Jesus alive today…….?

What do you understand about his apparent return………?

How do you think he would be living……?

And what is the difference between the last time he was here and this apparent return and no scripture revelations please, I would like your personal perspective if that’s possible……?

Ciao… cool.gif
Kaknelson
QUOTE(JC2 @ Jul 4 2006, 03:49 AM) [snapback]1256825[/snapback]

So the question is……. Is Jesus alive today…….?

What do you understand about his apparent return………?

How do you think he would be living……?

And what is the difference between the last time he was here and this apparent return and no scripture revelations please, I would like your personal perspective if that’s possible……?

Ciao… cool.gif


I don't know a whole lot about JESUS being alive today, and this is truth. This is why i started this forum. I will say, yes he is alive today.

If he is alive, he is like me and you, maybe living hardships or oppressed. Waiting for the right time to approach back to the forefront and arise for what is GOOD. Or he might not even know he is JESUS.

This time he returns not in the time of when Babylon is beginning to rise, being the days Jesus of Nazereth was around. But now, the battle of armageddon. The war between all humans, rich vs poor, babylon oppressing the world youths and forcing into TWO specific world classes. Rich and poor. Rich white supremecy does rule over all human kind. In the media, and in the mind of rich elite families. However, the second comming could be easily Halie Selassie. Whom is said to be alive today,as he lives and rules all, today. He could be the second comming, and was said to have been killed and found under a toilet. But this was said to merely discredit Rastafari. For the soul of JESUS is similar to ours, merely a vessel, said to be awaken in the mist of armageddon. This is a plausiable answer, for it IS war now, between classes, countries, races and religion. Selassie was the last known decendent of the royal blood, in the Solonomic Dynasty.

Hope that helps somewhat.
powermike92
Jesus said he would return. The thing is that many prophets would come after his like they did before him to teach and rise people into heaven. Jesus would return at the end of times as said in the scriptures. grin2.gif
Kaknelson
QUOTE(mysteryrevealed @ Jul 4 2006, 11:01 PM) [snapback]1257825[/snapback]

Jesus said he would return. The thing is that many prophets would come after his like they did before him to teach and rise people into heaven. Jesus would return at the end of times as said in the scriptures. grin2.gif


Welcome to the forum !

Will Jesus return at the end of times?

True. grin2.gif
powermike92
QUOTE(Kaknelson @ Jul 5 2006, 02:13 AM) [snapback]1257832[/snapback]

Welcome to the forum !

Will Jesus return at the end of times?

True. grin2.gif

Yea, true fact. The only thing is that there are so many religions that people beleive in their own thing when there is only 1.
Kaknelson
Jesus would most likely come before that, before all the religions totally conflict.

The bible and the hewbrew scripts, and isralite books can be tooken several different ways.The word of god can be produced into several sects, and religions.

IMO they are the truth, and the truth was written.
Boltwave
QUOTE(Mr. Fahrenheit @ Jun 28 2006, 03:21 PM) [snapback]1250226[/snapback]

Why do you assume he's joking? I was just about to say something similar...



No need to worry, as that was not an assumption. wink2.gif
Hotoke
yeah Odin will wipe the floor with jesus at ragnarok


all Hail the mighty Odin


the one and only god
Bahamut_0
All this jesus return and also the buda boy thing... ever wondered if the next messiah that appears is another person? Does it always have to be a reincarnation of someone? I found that to be very insulting and degrading of one individuality.
strangebutsmart
Doesn't the Davinci code give some clues that a second messiah is here/coming/came.
*Ahem* the holy blood or something like that.
Bahamut_0
Yes, a false messiah (aka third anti-christ) and a messiah (also the third of his kind) are coming.
There is also supposed to be a third world war followed by the wars of the anti-christ in which the false messiah will die.

Or this can all be a fairy-tale tongue.gif. A deluded way of interpreting the future...
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