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wex
hi everyone. i'm new here. and to be honest i only registered because i wanted answers to this specific question.

let me give you a little background on myself.
i'm 19 years old. and i don't claim to have any 'powers'.
but i have had many experiences with deja vu.
and in my experience, when you have deja vu, no matter what you try to do to change it, it has already happened (i.e. even if you try to escape it, that has already happened too)
i also seem to have a very weak form of telekenisis (which some people call 'electrokenisis' but i've been through these forums and know that that term is frowned upon) where sometimes when i get really angry electrical appliances kind of... Kchzzzt! fry.

well anyways... i had this terrible dream a couple of nights ago, and i won't go into too much detail, but, in this dream i saw someone very close to me die. and i've heard that when you have precognitive dreams they are likely to happen within a few days.

to get into a little bit of detail, i was meditating before i went to sleep. and this dream was very clear, i can still see it. and usually dreams have some sort of symbolic meaning to them, but this one was straight forward. i was watching the news and i saw a story about their death.

usually my dreams don't make any sense (like last night i had a dream that involved santa clause and hitler) but i don't seem to find it wierd at the time or even have any emotional connection at all.

but in this one i actually got sad and remarked on how sad it was... in my dream.

well.... i decided to tell this person about my dream because i care a lot about them and i would feel sooo guilty if something happened to them that i could have prevented.

but in my experience with deja vu, there is nothing you can do to change it.

so... my question is... do you think that me telling this person about the dream could actually set the events in motion (like a scared to death kind of deal?). or do you think that it was right for me to tell them about the dream?

i feel like i've done my part in warning them... but its up to them to heed the warning.

i just want a second opinion.

thanks in advance,
wex
imorningsun
I don't think it is a good idea to tell anyone something like that.
If it doesn't make them scared it may paranoy them.

Too bad you couldn't use any of the details in the vision to help change it?
Tia
Death in your dream could signify change.

I had a really bad dream when my eldest child was a toddler but what it actually meant was an ending to her babies years. Her death in the dream meant in real life that she was no longer my baby but starting to branch out and become her own little person.
ImOne
Welcome to UM.

It seems to me that once the future is seen it cannot be changed. Then again I have only been sure that I saw the future when that future actually happens. So if it changed I would assume that what I saw was only a dream. From other peoples experiences that I've read about where there were things that we would or could change those things are somehow missing from the vision. I think you can't change it, but I'm not sure.

Having researched precognition for many many hours over the last year I am pretty confident that there is no authority on this subject. If you have been unable to change what you see then that reinforces my belief that it's not changeable. I have read about only one account where a person thought warning someone helped them avoid disaster, but the details were to thin to be sure. It could have been wishful thinking that they were able to make a difference.

You raise an interesting question about whether you should warn someone based on a dream you had. There is no easy answer to that question. You don't want to create a self-fulfilling prophecy or create unnecessary worry, and you don't want to do nothing and wish you had. I have thought about this, but never had to make that decision. I think you should do what feels right in each situation. Actually, I tend to believe that you can only do what fulfills the vision.

The way I see it, if you saw the future and therefore you change it, you didn't really see the future in the first place.

Whatever happens it's not your fault. You can only guess what do about this. You did what you felt you should do at the time. That's the best you can do.

In my personal experience when I have seen the future it happens within a few days at the most, and a few hours at the least. When it's from a dream the dream seems very real and easy to remember. Also, the dream makes sense, never abstract like your santa/hitler example. In other words, there is no interpretation necessary, it's exactly the same.
Roxie
We need to remember that our dreams can be scarily lifelike. We can experience all the emotions that we experience in our waking lives while we are asleep. I've had dreams where someone close to me has died and it's been so real that I've woken up crying, and completly unnerved for a good week afterwards. But nothing ever comes of it.

I'd advise you not to worry about it. Our dreams are just that - dreams. or in your case Nightmares.
wex
thank you all.
you are all right.
i did what i thought i had too at the time.
and i'll just have to wait and see if it was just a dream or something more... (hopefully it was just a dream)
Bearly
QUOTE(wex @ Jun 9 2006, 12:36 PM) [snapback]1224621[/snapback]

thank you all.
you are all right.
i did what i thought i had too at the time.
and i'll just have to wait and see if it was just a dream or something more... (hopefully it was just a dream)


I have been in a similar situation , except it was even more complicated. I believe that you can "change the future" to avoid events. But it is not always possible or easy to do so, and in some cases it may help some people, but hurt others. It is a very difficult situation to be in, and I am sure you know what I mean. Your dream just focused on one event and one person, so it is relatively simple compared to what I faced. I think you did the right thing by warning that person.

There is always a fear in such situations that you might actually somehow be the cause of the event. I do not believe that you warning the person will cause the event in this case. You did the best thing that you knew how given the situation, and you may have actually saved that person. If it does not come about, that does not mean it would not have happened if you didn't warn that person. If it does come about, it is not your fault, no matter what anyone tells you or how bad you feel about the situation. One can only do what they think is right in life, the rest is up to fate or the higher powers, which ever you believe in. It may also have been a dream, but if you feel confident that it was a premonition, it probably was. My best wishes for a happy resolution of your situation.



chris57
i have deja vu all the time at least once or twice a day
intrerested
QUOTE(wex @ Jun 9 2006, 11:46 AM) [snapback]1223972[/snapback]

hi everyone. i'm new here. and to be honest i only registered because i wanted answers to this specific question.

let me give you a little background on myself.
i'm 19 years old. and i don't claim to have any 'powers'.
but i have had many experiences with deja vu.
and in my experience, when you have deja vu, no matter what you try to do to change it, it has already happened (i.e. even if you try to escape it, that has already happened too)
i also seem to have a very weak form of telekenisis (which some people call 'electrokenisis' but i've been through these forums and know that that term is frowned upon) where sometimes when i get really angry electrical appliances kind of... Kchzzzt! fry.

well anyways... i had this terrible dream a couple of nights ago, and i won't go into too much detail, but, in this dream i saw someone very close to me die. and i've heard that when you have precognitive dreams they are likely to happen within a few days.

to get into a little bit of detail, i was meditating before i went to sleep. and this dream was very clear, i can still see it. and usually dreams have some sort of symbolic meaning to them, but this one was straight forward. i was watching the news and i saw a story about their death.

usually my dreams don't make any sense (like last night i had a dream that involved santa clause and hitler) but i don't seem to find it wierd at the time or even have any emotional connection at all.

but in this one i actually got sad and remarked on how sad it was... in my dream.

well.... i decided to tell this person about my dream because i care a lot about them and i would feel sooo guilty if something happened to them that i could have prevented.

but in my experience with deja vu, there is nothing you can do to change it.

so... my question is... do you think that me telling this person about the dream could actually set the events in motion (like a scared to death kind of deal?). or do you think that it was right for me to tell them about the dream?

i feel like i've done my part in warning them... but its up to them to heed the warning.

i just want a second opinion.

thanks in advance,
wex


well wex,

That is quite a saga. I get deja vu also and would just like to say that i have had an experiance of deja reve, or remembering a dream which later acts it self out in your reality , in which i made a significant change.
The situation need not be elaborated on, but simply i made a decision as i realised that i knew what was about to happen and that i would attempt to alter it, just to see if i could, and i could. It wasn't hard.
I reflect on what may have happened if i had allowed the dream to unfold frequently and am still unsure as to if i could have made the decision not to try and change my premenition. Which is where i am likely to begin boring you with a discusion of free will so i will end here.
Try, when you get the sensation that what you dreamt is happening, just change it.

Good luck,

intrrested
wex
well, i posted this on the 6th, and its the 21st now.

and nothing has happened.

so i'm thinking it was just a dream.
angelie
Hello.

This is only my own experinece. I dreamt about my grandma meeting with my grandpa (he has been dead for many years) again. They were both dressed in clothes from the 40s and they were young. My grandpa was so excited to have her with him and acted like she'd been gone on a long trip or something and finally came back to him. My grandma spoke to me about some disappointment she had felt in her life. My grandpa didn't seem to recognize me at all. I have never been close to my grandparents and have never dreamt about them before so I told my mom and she was stunned over the info I had gotten over grandmas disappointment she had felt in her life. My mom knew but I didn't. Until the dream that was. About 3 weeks later my grandma had a stroke and after another couple of weeks she had passed on. To be with my grandpa I would suspect.
Precognition or a fluke?

If we can't change it, why can we sometimes see it?



QUOTE(wex @ Jun 21 2006, 06:24 AM) [snapback]1239928[/snapback]

well, i posted this on the 6th, and its the 21st now.

and nothing has happened.

so i'm thinking it was just a dream.
DreamSlayer
I would never tell someone if I knew they were going to die.

*lighter side*

Knowing my luck, I would call someone and be like "Get inside now!" Then, as they crossed the street to get in their house, they would get hit by a car.

*end of lighter side*

Without trying to bring you down, precognition doesn't *HAVE* to work in the immediate future. What you could have seen could have been 12 years from now. Or it was just a dream.
astail
QUOTE(wex @ Jun 8 2006, 11:46 PM) [snapback]1223972[/snapback]

hi everyone. i'm new here. and to be honest i only registered because i wanted answers to this specific question.

let me give you a little background on myself.
i'm 19 years old. and i don't claim to have any 'powers'.
but i have had many experiences with deja vu.
and in my experience, when you have deja vu, no matter what you try to do to change it, it has already happened (i.e. even if you try to escape it, that has already happened too)
i also seem to have a very weak form of telekenisis (which some people call 'electrokenisis' but i've been through these forums and know that that term is frowned upon) where sometimes when i get really angry electrical appliances kind of... Kchzzzt! fry.

well anyways... i had this terrible dream a couple of nights ago, and i won't go into too much detail, but, in this dream i saw someone very close to me die. and i've heard that when you have precognitive dreams they are likely to happen within a few days.

to get into a little bit of detail, i was meditating before i went to sleep. and this dream was very clear, i can still see it. and usually dreams have some sort of symbolic meaning to them, but this one was straight forward. i was watching the news and i saw a story about their death.

usually my dreams don't make any sense (like last night i had a dream that involved santa clause and hitler) but i don't seem to find it wierd at the time or even have any emotional connection at all.

but in this one i actually got sad and remarked on how sad it was... in my dream.

well.... i decided to tell this person about my dream because i care a lot about them and i would feel sooo guilty if something happened to them that i could have prevented.

but in my experience with deja vu, there is nothing you can do to change it.

so... my question is... do you think that me telling this person about the dream could actually set the events in motion (like a scared to death kind of deal?). or do you think that it was right for me to tell them about the dream?

i feel like i've done my part in warning them... but its up to them to heed the warning.

i just want a second opinion.

thanks in advance,
wex

u should tell her ..samething happened to me ..about my mom ...I told her abd when It happened ...she was prepard to stop it...( her husband tryed to kill her ...she had a knife in her pocet) not to say that ...she going to get killed just saying ...who ever it is will be prepared to fight or do what ever they need
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