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Hello78
Which one photographs those capturing spirits/ghosts/apparitions that are not tampered? I think the antique photographs are the one that is not tampered from a long time ago, even today comparing to the modern photographs that are often tampering? Of course, modern photographs are accurate, it depends. What do you think? Thanks.

Enclosed are the three antique photographs that I found online, which you could see a woman and a little boy in the picture. Is it being tampered from a long time ago or present? Thanks.
Mookie
I honestly don't know if they are real or genuine, if they are fake, I'd say that they were damn good fakes, IMO.

Nice pics tho.
Thanx for sharing. thumbsup.gif
Lady_Anvilabeel
These are pretty cool photos, but can we be sure they really are antique and not staged? The only thing that bothers me about the pic is the psychology of it. There is a wide space between the group and the 2 men standing to the left for instance.

This group look aware that a pic was being taken, so why is there such spaces between some of them? People tend to huddle more closely for a group pic, esp the people on the outside.........these spaces also happen to filled by the entities.

Just not sure hmm.gif
DeadRobot
A woman and kid abusing Predator technology grin2.gif
jonb

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A woman and kid abusing Predator technology


hahah.

looks like somone didnt want them in the photo afterwards and used older or maybe newer at the time darkroom methods of chopping them out.
Hello78
QUOTE(Anvil @ Jun 17 2006, 04:51 PM) [snapback]1235404[/snapback]

These are pretty cool photos, but can we be sure they really are antique and not staged? The only thing that bothers me about the pic is the psychology of it. There is a wide space between the group and the 2 men standing to the left for instance.

This group look aware that a pic was being taken, so why is there such spaces between some of them? People tend to huddle more closely for a group pic, esp the people on the outside.........these spaces also happen to filled by the entities.

Just not sure hmm.gif


Well, that is what I thought, but again it is an interesting photograph.
_CoNspIracY_
QUOTE(Anvil @ Jun 17 2006, 05:51 PM) [snapback]1235404[/snapback]

The only thing that bothers me about the pic is the psychology of it. There is a wide space between the group and the 2 men standing to the left for instance.


EXACTLY what I thought when I saw it. And out of all the ghost shows I have seen, ghosts do not show up in a "Predator" camoflage, ( If you have seen Predator the movie ).
And that big gap inbetween the two men is a very strange thing to see in a photo where everyone else is huddled up.

So I have to say its a fake. And besides, black & white photos are much more easier to edit due to the lack of colouring textures.

EDIT: Also there is another gap where the second "ghost" is, ( Right near the door ), and thats also a strange gap. I will edit the photo on Paintshop, and point out the two gaps for people who didnt notice them right away.
_CoNspIracY_
This is my first point of evidence, I made a Hot Wax Coat on the pic in paintshop, if this pic was not edited earlier, the Ghost image would NOT have shown up. The effect in the original pic is also hot wax coating, but not in red, just a bit more blurry and seethrough. More to come.
_CoNspIracY_
Ok, Look at the second pic ( The ghost outlined in GREEN ), examination proved that the "ghost" is standing INFRONT of the man. Now, unless she is literally INSIDE the man infront of her/him, there is NO room to stand. This also shows the pic was tampered with. I have outlined the girl's body shape in green, and if you look very closely, you can see it very faintly that she IS standing infront of the man... And so is the woman outlines in red.
Solved. ( I think tongue.gif geek.gif )
CosmosTheMouse

That pic is scary without the ghosts.
Is it just me or do all the people look like wax figures.

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coldethyl
QUOTE(jonb @ Jun 17 2006, 06:32 PM) [snapback]1235467[/snapback]

hahah.

looks like somone didnt want them in the photo afterwards and used older or maybe newer at the time darkroom methods of chopping them out.


That's what I thought too. They look 'edited out'.

QUOTE(CosmosTheMouse @ Jun 18 2006, 01:55 PM) [snapback]1236211[/snapback]

That pic is scary without the ghosts.
Is it just me or do all the people look like wax figures.

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They look touched up or airbrushed! And scary waxy to me too!
earthchick
It is a misconception that older photos could not be tampered with. Even before the advent of film cameras, when photos were still being done on plates, "ghost" photos were often faked by doing a deliberate type of double exposure on the plate. Even when film first came along, the negatives were often "painted" on before developing to hoax "ghost" photos. No era of photography was immune to hoaxing.
FireMoon
Best *ghost pic* i've seen was in a book published in the 1970s on ghosts etc written by a guy who had been brought up in a house that had quite a reputation in Ealing a suburb of London England...

He has returned to the house he gew up in to take a pic of it before it was demolished. One of the pics he took you dont need to be prompted to see what looks like the head and shoulders of a victorian/edwardian looknig young girl in one of the windows of the now deserted and deplapidated house.

The whole story of that house in Ealing is a truly weird and scarey one..Saldy, So far i have not managed to track anything down online about it.
coldethyl
QUOTE(FireMoon @ Jun 19 2006, 10:52 AM) [snapback]1237386[/snapback]

The whole story of that house in Ealing is a truly weird and scarey one..Saldy, So far i have not managed to track anything down online about it.



If you ever do track anything down, make sure you post it as I would love to read about it!! thumbsup.gif
FireMoon
Okies here goes..and this from memory of reading the book in the mid 70s when i was a kid so, excuse me if i get anything wrong . If anyone recognises the stroy , can add or correct anything please feel free.

Like i say the pic in the book seemed to show a girl of victorian/edwardianj appearance in the window of the house the day before it was demolished

Location Ealing London..... If i remember rightly ,the house stood on a small rise/hill in the suburb. The house itself was quite a large victorain one with a rounded tower like 3-4 story structure on one corner. it was this structure where the weird stuff was meant to have happened.

The house had been turned into apartments sometime during the 20th century and the author grew up in one of these.

Authors own experience... As a child had been fascinated by the tower roof and on climbing up there had been pulled back as he was just about to *step into the garden from the roof* by his parent. he said that the way the paving was arranged, looked from the roof ,as if you could just step down onto it as if it were only a couple of feet below you.. he remembered feeling as if he was almost *hypnotised* the time he nearly stepped off the roof.


He then discovered , later on in life, that the tower had a history of tradegy, including ,i think, 6 suicides from it and 1 murder where a maid had stepped off the roof with her employers baby in her arms.. sometime in the late 19th early 20th century

There was also a rumour that the person who had the place built was an alchmeist who studied alsorts of weird stuff. The author claimed there were mysterious symbols engraved on the wall of the tower just below the parapet that someone eventually claimed were indeed *alchemical in nature*.

The story that really did stand out, was that of a party at the house sometime in the 1960s...

A guy , rather the worse for drink, fell asleep in a bath and was discovered later by someone in a very poor state. Rushed to hospital the doctors were totally bemused when they diagnosed he was suffering from *sulphur poisoning*..

Research into the history of the house led to the discovery that the bathroom was, at onetime, the sight of the original owners *laboratory*...

That's all the details i remember of the tale sadly...


As i say anyone recognise the name of the book this was taken from i'd love to know... It was told as truth not a story .
Dr.Gord
I would honestly conclude that those pictures were photoshopped. The figures are too well defined and like stated about, why would there be genuine gaps in between the people unless someone wanted something inserted there or they was something there and removed. 100% fakes!
earthchick
I agree with Dr. Gord that those photos were most likely "photoshopped", even so, I'd like to address the issue of gaps where spirits show in photos:

Even in photos that are deemed legit, there can be gaps like that where the spirit figures are. The reason for this is that on some subconcious or intuitous level the living people in the photograph sensed the presence and possibly even without being aware of it allowed room for the spirit presence.
_CoNspIracY_
QUOTE(Dr.Gord @ Jun 20 2006, 07:07 PM) [snapback]1239348[/snapback]

I would honestly conclude that those pictures were photoshopped. The figures are too well defined and like stated about, why would there be genuine gaps in between the people unless someone wanted something inserted there or they was something there and removed. 100% fakes!

Did you just make that up? Because I have just recently seen the ORIGINAL photo, and theres no gap beetween the two men, and no gap with the two women. The original pic was simply edited, and you know whats REALLY shocking? theres WAS a little girl & a woman in the original pic, they were simply cut out, and messed around with.

So basically they took the people already there, and hand-drawn the house that is visible through the transparent "Ghosts", then put the two figures, ( All ready and nicely edited with nice transparant effects ) and simply pasted in.

I lost the actual pic, but I remember searching the pic's name, without the numbers, or 1970 faimly pic in google images, Ill post if I find it.
~Onyx~
Well I can factually confirm that EVERYONE in the photo is ugly...most likely the two "edited" people were just as ugly and whomever editied the photo did us a favor...so to you "O Editor of homeliness"....we raise a glass.
coldethyl
QUOTE(Onyxdk @ Jun 21 2006, 12:42 PM) [snapback]1240366[/snapback]

Well I can factually confirm that EVERYONE in the photo is ugly...most likely the two "edited" people were just as ugly and whomever editied the photo did us a favor...so to you "O Editor of homeliness"....we raise a glass.


laugh.gif I spit tea on my keyboard.

~Onyx~
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jun 21 2006, 01:44 PM) [snapback]1240370[/snapback]

laugh.gif I spit tea on my keyboard.


I will take that as a compliment....a pleasure to be of service...stay tuned.
_CoNspIracY_
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jun 21 2006, 01:44 PM) [snapback]1240370[/snapback]

laugh.gif I spit tea on my keyboard.

LOL!! Suprisingly enough I did too!! And chocked on a twinkie! original.gif
Robert1
QUOTE(jonb @ Jun 17 2006, 07:32 PM) [snapback]1235467[/snapback]

hahah.

looks like somone didnt want them in the photo afterwards and used older or maybe newer at the time darkroom methods of chopping them out.

Exactly. The photo was definately doctored in some way.
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