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Beckys_Mom
grin2.gif Personally I would like to see all my loved ones again...and see if anyone misses me..hope they threw a good funeral LOL
rhyknow
Meh i'm going to hell (if it exists) but at least they have the good music...
chaostrom
I shall reserve judgement until I die. So yeah, can't really vote on this one, it's not up there. The closest one is the "don't care" option, but that's not exactly the same, is it?
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(chaostrom @ Jun 19 2006, 02:35 PM) [snapback]1237227[/snapback]

I shall reserve judgement until I die. So yeah, can't really vote on this one, it's not up there. The closest one is the "don't care" option, but that's not exactly the same, is it?

In a weird way it is..it means you dont know either
chaoszerg
we will evolve.....i think happy.gif
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(chaoszerg @ Jun 19 2006, 02:49 PM) [snapback]1237244[/snapback]

we will evolve.....i think happy.gif

But we already have evolved LOL We get re-cycled LOL w00t.gif
rhyknow
Well if we get reincarnated, i wanna come back as a zombie LOL...

Besides, i gotta agree with South Park, only mormons get intoheaven
Paranoid Android
I'm gonna be with God. What that will be like is subject to no small measure of speculation. Most people call this place heaven, though most people get many of the details wrong, I think grin2.gif
Avinash_Tyagi
QUOTE(Paranoid Android @ Jun 19 2006, 09:57 AM) [snapback]1237260[/snapback]

I'm gonna be with God. What that will be like is subject to no small measure of speculation. Most people call this place heaven, though most people get many of the details wrong, I think grin2.gif


If God is everyhere PA, isn't "he " already with you?
chaoszerg
QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ Jun 19 2006, 02:50 PM) [snapback]1237248[/snapback]

But we already have evolved LOL We get re-cycled LOL w00t.gif



i mean we become a higher state of consciousness. I think that happens when we die the shell our body is left to rot and become one with the ground again and our soul or energy or just our consciousness is aloud to explore. original.gif

I dont want to be re-cycled and become a newspaper or something lol or reincarnated.
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(Paranoid Android @ Jun 19 2006, 02:57 PM) [snapback]1237260[/snapback]

I'm gonna be with God. What that will be like is subject to no small measure of speculation. Most people call this place heaven, though most people get many of the details wrong, I think grin2.gif

What details can one get wrong about heaven?...If no one has come back to tell the tale...heaven is just how one imagines it..its how one likes it to be..cuz we dont know for sure what it right or not original.gif
rhyknow
I think that as soon as we get up to heaven, the first thing St. Peter'll say is "Gotta light?"
"Hey, you smoke here?"
"Yeah, dude! That's why it's heaven... Noone smokes in hell! Take A look!"
We look down at those people in Hell saying "well i don't like secondary smoke, it gives me cancer" and we rock in the nightclubs all night long
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(chaoszerg @ Jun 19 2006, 03:02 PM) [snapback]1237265[/snapback]

i mean we become a higher state of consciousness. I think that happens when we die the shell our body is left to rot and become one with the ground again and our soul or energy or just our consciousness is aloud to explore. original.gif

I dont want to be re-cycled and become a newspaper or something lol or reincarnated.

LOL When I said re-cycled..I meant into another living thing...its another way of saying reincarnated yes.gif
Jack Black
I'm still undecided as to what i believe, i've been in this limbo for years wacko.gif
Paranoid Android
QUOTE(Avinash_Tyagi @ Jun 20 2006, 12:01 AM) [snapback]1237263[/snapback]

If God is everyhere PA, isn't "he " already with you?
Indeed. It's going to be more obvious though in heaven grin2.gif

QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ Jun 20 2006, 12:02 AM) [snapback]1237266[/snapback]

What details can one get wrong about heaven?...If no one has come back to tell the tale...heaven is just how one imagines it..its how one likes it to be..cuz we dont know for sure what it right or not original.gif
Heaven is impossible to describe from our limited human existence. We think on human terms. Heaven is in spiritual terms. I was simply pointing out that any attempt to describe or pigeonhole heaven into any specific details is flawed to begin with.

Regards, PA



chaostrom
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In a weird way it is..it means you dont know either


Could you explain?
esotericEntity
i think they after death the word "consciousness" will reach its full meaning.

well will have no limitations to knowledge. to create our on personal heaven based on ideas,memories, thoughts, inspirations, all sorts of knowledge will be used to make a brand new "reality" after leaving this body. the basically, we will create our own afterlives from the knowledge we gained in the past. EVERYTHING will be incorperated to create this AND also the knowledge to come after we complete our journey through this body. so knowledge that we obtain plus more knowledge that we will come across in the new realm
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(chaostrom @ Jun 20 2006, 01:36 AM) [snapback]1238040[/snapback]

Could you explain?

It means you don't know...no one knows..so yea dont care is the closest...or did you just wanna be awkward?
eden grange
When I die i'm going to be cremated scattered and have a nice rest, no heaven or hell or limbo etc for me!
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(eden grange @ Jun 20 2006, 12:13 PM) [snapback]1238533[/snapback]

When I die i'm going to be cremated scattered and have a nice rest, no heaven or hell or limbo etc for me!

When you die and you have asked your loved ones to have you cremated....once you are dead you may never know if they followed that through r not...they may have went for the cheaper option and just burried you lol..j/k tongue.gif
chaostrom
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It means you don't know...no one knows..so yea dont care is the closest...or did you just wanna be awkward?


So you equate no knowledge with no interest? Just because I don't know, just because I don't understand, is not to say I don't care...
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(chaostrom @ Jun 20 2006, 01:22 PM) [snapback]1238577[/snapback]

So you equate no knowledge with no interest? Just because I don't know, just because I don't understand, is not to say I don't care...

Well you have a point....no knowledge...which is something everyone here has when it comes to what is really going to happen when we die...right??...so when someone says..I dont care..in a way they dont cuz they KNOW that there is no way of knowing what is really going to happen..so they accept that..when you die..you just die and lets see what happens...ya with me? grin2.gif
chaostrom
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Well you have a point....no knowledge...which is something everyone here has when it comes to what is really going to happen when we die...right??...so when someone says..I dont care..in a way they dont cuz they KNOW that there is no way of knowing what is really going to happen..so they accept that..when you die..you just die and lets see what happens...ya with me? grin2.gif


I understand what you're saying, and I'd agree if it weren't for the fact that there are people out there that really don't care.
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(chaostrom @ Jun 20 2006, 01:32 PM) [snapback]1238590[/snapback]

I understand what you're saying, and I'd agree if it weren't for the fact that there are people out there that really don't care.

Could it be that they dont care, because they dont know? so when they die so be it?? after all no one knows....the only ones that will care, are the ones that live on hope..like me
chaostrom
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Could it be that they dont care, because they dont know? so when they die so be it?? after all no one knows....the only ones that will care, are the ones that live on hope..like me


There are those that don't care because they don't know... And there are those that do not know, but still care... I'm in that second category concerning death... Anyway, when you say "live on hope..like me", is that to say you live on hope, or you live and hope?
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(chaostrom @ Jun 20 2006, 01:39 PM) [snapback]1238598[/snapback]

There are those that don't care because they don't know... And there are those that do not know, but still care... I'm in that second category concerning death... Anyway, when you say "live on hope..like me", is that to say you live on hope, or you live and hope?

I live on hope...cuz hope is all I have..its the same thing..living on hope is having hope...but since you wanna split hairs lol ok then i'll play along yes.gif

I live on the hope that one day..when I die..rthere is really a God..I HOPE there is...thats why its called faith...I live on hope..when I always HOPE for the best in life.....the more I hope...the more I do to make life easier....I HOPE you folow...but maybe you wont (im guess you wont lol) grin2.gif
chaostrom
I follow all right... Just that it seems you don't realise there are those that live without hope.
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(chaostrom @ Jun 20 2006, 01:47 PM) [snapback]1238607[/snapback]

I follow all right... Just that it seems you don't realise there are those that live without hope.

Why is that? Why would someone live with out an ounce of hope at all?? Are you saying they NEVER hope something goes right for them?
chaostrom
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Why is that? Why would someone live with out an ounce of hope at all?? Are you saying they NEVER hope something goes right for them?


There is hope (noun) and hope (verb).

Hope (noun) is a feeling, the opposite of despair, hope (verb) is when someone wishes something would happen because it is preferable than other things that could happen concerning said thing.

There are people who hope (verb) for things but live without any hope (noun)

Hope (verb) that clears things up.
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(chaostrom @ Jun 20 2006, 02:10 PM) [snapback]1238632[/snapback]

There is hope (noun) and hope (verb).

Hope (noun) is a feeling, the opposite of despair, hope (verb) is when someone wishes something would happen because it is preferable than other things that could happen concerning said thing.

There are people who hope (verb) for things but live without any hope (noun)

Hope (verb) that clears things up.

I didnt ask for a dictionary answer LOL I asked you a question.cuz you stated ---.
QUOTE(chaostrom @ Jun 20 2006, 01:47 PM) [snapback]1238607[/snapback]

I follow all right... Just that it seems you don't realise there are those that live without hope.

and again I will ask...

What makes you think that people NEVER hope for anything in life?? A hope is a wish ..you wish for something..it all boils down to hope..anyhoo please answer my question like before...WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THAT?

There is NOT one person alive that doesnt hope for at least something??

Those that sit and say...I give up on life..its not worth living...there is no hope for me...those people are wallowing in self pitty...they are feeling sorry for themselves...they gave up too easy..and when they did this...then they lost ALL HOPE!!!! wink2.gif
chaostrom
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I didnt ask for a dictionary answer LOL I asked you a question..and again I will ask...


That wasn't a dictionary definition of hope, that's mine.

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What makes you think that people NEVER hope for anything in life?? A hope is a wish ..you wish for something..it all boils down to hope..anyhoo please answer my question like before...WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THAT?

There is NOT one person alive that doesnt hope for at least something??


As I have said, there are people who hope (verb) for things but live without any hope (noun)

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Those that sit and say...I give up on life..its not worth living...there is no hope for me...those people are wallowing in self pitty...they are feeling sorry for themselves...they gave up too easy..and when they did this...then they lost ALL HOPE!!!! wink2.gif


I have not given up on life, I do not wallow in self-pity, yet I do not feel hope. To be sure, I hope for things sometimes, but I have not, to this day, felt hope. What does that make me?
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(chaostrom @ Jun 20 2006, 02:31 PM) [snapback]1238652[/snapback]

That wasn't a dictionary definition of hope, that's mine.
As I have said, there are people who hope (verb) for things but live without any hope (noun)
I have not given up on life, I do not wallow in self-pity, yet I do not feel hope. To be sure, I hope for things sometimes, but I have not, to this day, felt hope. What does that make me?

Glad you haven't given up on life...can you tell me WHY you feel as though you have no hope? do you feel there is nohope for anything in your life? If this is so..then there has to be something, cuz you have just said, you havent given up on life..so there has to be some hope there? original.gif
chaostrom
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Glad you haven't given up on life...can you tell me WHY you feel as though you have no hope? do you feel there is nohope for anything in your life? If this is so..then there has to be something, cuz you have just said, you havent given up on life..so there has to be some hope there? original.gif


I don't feel as though I have no hope, I have never felt hope. I have never actually felt the emotion hope.
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(chaostrom @ Jun 20 2006, 02:38 PM) [snapback]1238659[/snapback]

I don't feel as though I have no hope, I have never felt hope. I have never actually felt the emotion hope.

And i'll ask you again....HOW COME?? and again What has made you feel this way? there has to be something
chaostrom
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And i'll ask you again....HOW COME?? and again What has made you feel this way? there has to be something


As I've said, I don't feel hope, so stop asking me what makes me feel that way when there's no feeling involved.

Where other people would have a hope/despair gauge on their emotional being, I've just got a blank.

No hope. No despair.

And we're getting rather off topic, so if you want to discuss my emotional being, let's do it somewhere else, this isn't the place for it.
exeller
Voted I don't really care. Come to think of it. I don't really want to live forever. This kind of sucks, unless the afterlife is like.....a place full of like.....I don't know wacko.gif
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