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Bogeyman
I know i know ....fake fake fake is the cry
But i was just wondering if anyone ever came forward or was exposed on this ?
I found it stored on my c drive and only got to read it last night...has there ever been anything more about it ?

http://www.sabon.org/reptiloid/index3.html
Pinowawa1
been posted before: Reptillians evolved from dinosaurs, The extinction of the great civilisation was due to the aliens comming down and starting a new world order.. the world constantly regenerates - civilisation after civilisation. .. Reptillians can shape shift, Humans are psychologically programmed by aliens (genetically) enables them to manipulate us in terms of behaviour and the way we percieve aour surroundings .. for example we would not know if a huge alien mother ship came down and hovered above the White House because we are programmed to not see them unless they want us to. The Lacerta transcript also claims that there are different species of reptillians - each of which have different motives and have different symbols marking their territory (secret entrances to their underground caverns).. warrior reptillians guard their entrances in remote places... Reptillians live under ground, it is their habitat, they rarely come to surface, if they do it is to do with government agendas (royal family conspiracy), blah blah blah.. and blah..
louie
i actually just read this last week and was gonna post it,,, i dont know if its true or what but its very well written, it would make a very intresting short film,, interview with an alien or something. only part i dident like was it agreed with almost ever theory and conspircie we have on these forums, baiscally its telling us we are all right on everything and the rest of the world is wrong,,, id like to think we are right but i somehow think we dont have it all right, so i belive its a fake.
well put toghter though.
coldethyl
Sounds like The Blair Witch Project to me.
Brian McMalley
It makes sense to me. Angkor Wat is a replica of the constellation of Draco, and it is covered in reptilian images. Also, there are ancient round towers in Ireland that line up with the "head" of the Draco constellation. Interesting facts if you ask me.
coldethyl
QUOTE(Brian McMalley @ Jun 21 2006, 01:36 PM) [snapback]1240441[/snapback]

Interesting facts if you ask me.


Well everyone is entitled to their opinion. thumbsup.gif I just think it sounds way out there! yes.gif
Moon Monkey
QUOTE(Pinowawa1 @ Jun 20 2006, 12:23 PM) [snapback]1238579[/snapback]

been posted before: Reptillians evolved from dinosaurs, The extinction of the great civilisation was due to the aliens comming down and starting a new world order.. the world constantly regenerates - civilisation after civilisation. .. Reptillians can shape shift, Humans are psychologically programmed by aliens (genetically) enables them to manipulate us in terms of behaviour and the way we percieve aour surroundings .. for example we would not know if a huge alien mother ship came down and hovered above the White House because we are programmed to not see them unless they want us to. The Lacerta transcript also claims that there are different species of reptillians - each of which have different motives and have different symbols marking their territory (secret entrances to their underground caverns).. warrior reptillians guard their entrances in remote places... Reptillians live under ground, it is their habitat, they rarely come to surface, if they do it is to do with government agendas (royal family conspiracy), blah blah blah.. and blah..

Hi, I read that file while back and its a good story. I just wondered if you had seen anything else where the science within it is debunked or discussed.Cheers thumbsup.gif
Lizard King
Watch out, The Lacerta files and frogfish don't mix since frogfish is the all-knowing. I got banned from the site because of that. But here are some pictures anyways, because I really don't care. My woodchipper is big enough for everyone. These are pics of a supposed reptilian being. If you look hard enough, in one of the pics it looks as if there is a hellicopter above the creature because you can see debri swirling around it. Haha and other people said it looks like a penis. I dont see that part. It looks self-illuminating.
Moon Monkey
QUOTE(Lizard King @ Jun 21 2006, 07:51 PM) [snapback]1240511[/snapback]

Watch out, The Lacerta files and frogfish don't mix since frogfish is the all-knowing. I got banned from the site because of that. But here are some pictures anyways, because I really don't care. My woodchipper is big enough for everyone. These are pics of a supposed reptilian being. If you look hard enough, in one of the pics it looks as if there is a hellicopter above the creature because you can see debri swirling around it. Haha and other people said it looks like a penis. I dont see that part. It looks self-illuminating.

they look like stills from the film 'Predator' grin2.gif
boggle
QUOTE(Moon Monkey @ Jun 22 2006, 09:52 AM) [snapback]1241325[/snapback]

they look like stills from the film 'Predator' grin2.gif


that first picture definitely dont have a lizard's face, looks like a costume and it looks baggy.
louie
QUOTE(Brian McMalley @ Jun 21 2006, 11:36 PM) [snapback]1240441[/snapback]

It makes sense to me. Angkor Wat is a replica of the constellation of Draco, and it is covered in reptilian images. Also, there are ancient round towers in Ireland that line up with the "head" of the Draco constellation. Interesting facts if you ask me.

Hey man,
where r these round towers that are in ireland that match the draco constelation... r u refering to the martello towers, because they were watch out post on the coast,
coldethyl
QUOTE(Lizard King @ Jun 21 2006, 02:51 PM) [snapback]1240511[/snapback]

Haha and other people said it looks like a penis. I dont see that part. It looks self-illuminating.


I see that part. blink.gif

Where did these pics come from?
Brian McMalley
It looks like a really bad thermal picture, but if it was, then it is something really warm. I've noticed frogfish doesn't mix with anything not "scientifically proven"
Moon Monkey
QUOTE(Brian McMalley @ Jun 22 2006, 10:24 PM) [snapback]1242091[/snapback]

It looks like a really bad thermal picture, but if it was, then it is something really warm. I've noticed frogfish doesn't mix with anything not "scientifically proven"

Like some bloke just happened to have a thermal imaging camera on him in the one in a trillion chance he met an alien?....now a shoddy mobile phone shot I might have gone along with....for a while. wacko.gif I would still be interested about a link to where the science within this interview is discussed as it was waaaay above my head
Lizard King
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jun 22 2006, 06:32 AM) [snapback]1241504[/snapback]

I see that part. blink.gif

Where did these pics come from?


The same site as the Lacerta Files. The rest of the site is in German, so I translated it and looked at all the other links on it. It's some guys own personal site...I tried emailing (cause his sister is a hotty) but I got no reply. The site is old. Late 90's.
Moon Monkey
QUOTE(Lizard King @ Jun 23 2006, 09:58 PM) [snapback]1243460[/snapback]

The same site as the Lacerta Files. The rest of the site is in German, so I translated it and looked at all the other links on it. It's some guys own personal site...I tried emailing (cause his sister is a hotty) but I got no reply. The site is old. Late 90's.

still ...u seen anywhere were the science within is discussed ? ohmy.gif
coldethyl
QUOTE(Lizard King @ Jun 23 2006, 04:58 PM) [snapback]1243460[/snapback]

The same site as the Lacerta Files. The rest of the site is in German, so I translated it and looked at all the other links on it. It's some guys own personal site...I tried emailing (cause his sister is a hotty) but I got no reply. The site is old. Late 90's.


Haha! Well at least you had a good reason for emailing him... laugh.gif
Tom7669
I just read them today. I could just see my luck and them being real, and for some reason I am in some ancient cave walking along doing some research or something. Then I trip over a twig or something and fall into a wall of the cave which is actually that secret door thing, and then seeing the reptile symbol and being like "oh crap, Im screwed"
libertyworld
Well written? Good story? Science debated? C'mon people! You are smarter than that aren't you? What science? Rarely have I seen anything so blatently absurd and as easy to debunk as The Lacerta Files and here is why:

Their body temp is determined by their surroundings and is at about 90 degrees F in the shade so they have (sun) rooms down there to warm themselves in
their caves... which are as deep as 8000 meters below the surface?


The average (continental) geothermal gradient (increase) is about 25 degrees C/km, with a range of about 5-50 degrees C/km for extremes like ocean trenches and volcanic zones, respectively.
Using the average for their caves under the Asian continent that gives an ambient temperature (at 8000 meters) of about 213 C / 415 degrees F.
End of story ...even before the end of page ONE. sleepy.gif
Jjbreen
Some things do not need debunking - they do it themselves. So why bother??

I have to agree w/Liberty - just use common sense and a little science and it's "right there" - FAKE.
telirium
kinda reminds me of the super mario bros. movie hehe
Bogeyman
QUOTE(libertyworld @ May 3 2007, 06:02 AM) [snapback]1657098[/snapback]
Well written? Good story? Science debated? C'mon people! You are smarter than that aren't you? What science? Rarely have I seen anything so blatently absurd and as easy to debunk as The Lacerta Files and here is why:

Their body temp is determined by their surroundings and is at about 90 degrees F in the shade so they have (sun) rooms down there to warm themselves in
their caves... which are as deep as 8000 meters below the surface?
The average (continental) geothermal gradient (increase) is about 25 degrees C/km, with a range of about 5-50 degrees C/km for extremes like ocean trenches and volcanic zones, respectively.
Using the average for their caves under the Asian continent that gives an ambient temperature (at 8000 meters) of about 213 C / 415 degrees F.
End of story ...even before the end of page ONE. sleepy.gif



Hey Libertyworld

You went back almost a full year for a thread to debunk wink2.gif ....The last post on this thread before yours is 25/6/06 rolleyes.gif
I cant even remember posting on this ....must be gettin old wacko.gif
P.S....Welcome to U-M
Bogey
libertyworld
QUOTE(Bogeyman @ May 3 2007, 03:44 AM) [snapback]1657339[/snapback]
Hey Libertyworld

You went back almost a full year for a thread to debunk wink2.gif ....The last post on this thread before yours is 25/6/06 rolleyes.gif
I cant even remember posting on this ....must be gettin old wacko.gif
P.S....Welcome to U-M
Bogey


Okaaaay...
1) I didn't "go back" for anything. I simply posted a comment on the subject.
2) Are you the one in charge of expiration dates?
3) Is this a problem for you? Is almost a full year a long time and are you going to be okay? huh.gif
4) Yes, we can all see the dates.
5) You do see that people, including you, are still paying attention, don't you?
6) If you cannot remember posting maybe you didn't actually say anything of substance.
7) With such a firm grasp of the obvious, is there a point you are trying to make other than that you must be gettin old? dontgetit.gif
8) Thanks for the welcome. Glad I could help.
BrucePrime
QUOTE(Brian McMalley @ Jun 21 2006, 06:36 PM) [snapback]1240441[/snapback]
It makes sense to me. Angkor Wat is a replica of the constellation of Draco, and it is covered in reptilian images. Also, there are ancient round towers in Ireland that line up with the "head" of the Draco constellation. Interesting facts if you ask me.


Angkor Wat was not a replica of Draco. It was built as a representation of Mount Meru, home of the Hindu Gods.
Normal Person
QUOTE(libertyworld @ May 2 2007, 10:02 PM) [snapback]1657098[/snapback]
Well written? Good story? Science debated? C'mon people! You are smarter than that aren't you? What science? Rarely have I seen anything so blatently absurd and as easy to debunk as The Lacerta Files and here is why:

Their body temp is determined by their surroundings and is at about 90 degrees F in the shade so they have (sun) rooms down there to warm themselves in
their caves... which are as deep as 8000 meters below the surface?
The average (continental) geothermal gradient (increase) is about 25 degrees C/km, with a range of about 5-50 degrees C/km for extremes like ocean trenches and volcanic zones, respectively.
Using the average for their caves under the Asian continent that gives an ambient temperature (at 8000 meters) of about 213 C / 415 degrees F.
End of story ...even before the end of page ONE. sleepy.gif

You dont think that they would have technology to reverse heating effects?

To me, the files changed my life after reading them, because for once in a my life i see something that perfectly fits into why humans are here, we were not built for this planet as you can see, and the highly advanced technology she talks about, using fusion and anti gravity, they have all been discussed before and A worker from area 51 actually came out and told them that they have alien technology, that used anti-gravity which would explain the RAPID expansion of technology in the last 50 years, and also why they came out with a jet that could float at that time. Everything that she says, makes perfect sense, and the reason why we think we are related to apes, is because we are what apes will be in 20 million years, our sped up evolution has yet to be proven, and this would explain it perfectly, it would also explain why there has been so many pictures of UFO's in ancient society, no other theory that i have ever read, and trust me i have THE THIRST for knowledge, has ever made more sense then this one, talking about changing the fields to create mind powers, would explain any paranormal incident, i mean even the stuff about atoms makes sense. Crossing over the electromagnetic fields or whatever it said, it could explain how there is so many other substances we dont know about.

Evolution is the key, and these alien species arent evil, they are just much higher evolved than us, i mean imagine something that has been evolving for 50 billion years. It boggles your mind, how their mind would work, i mean we always talk about opening up our mind and about TK and all that stuff, well this is the answer, it makes complete sense. ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

I cant find a single loophole in the whole two interviews, this would also explain the dinosaurs being wiped out, trust me guys im usually a skeptic about most things, but this is something else, i just wish that people would throw aside what they THINK is right, and try and build on what she said, using the atoms and fusion and all that.
jaylemurph
Does anybody know the earliest coherent theory of the reptiloids? And not "they've been here for millions of years and these pieces of art /prove/ it!" variety.
It's just that there was an episode of Doctor Who called Doctor Who and the Silurians, written in 1969, that pretty much parallels every Reptiloid story, but pre-dates most of the theories flying around here.
It wouldn't be the first time half-remembered sci-fi shows up in UFO lore...

--Jaylemurph
Ryo Ohki
Those arent pictures of reptiles the face looks like it has tentacles.
Bogeyman
QUOTE(libertyworld @ May 3 2007, 05:43 PM) [snapback]1657742[/snapback]
Okaaaay...
1) I didn't "go back" for anything. I simply posted a comment on the subject.
2) Are you the one in charge of expiration dates?
3) Is this a problem for you? Is almost a full year a long time and are you going to be okay? huh.gif
4) Yes, we can all see the dates.
5) You do see that people, including you, are still paying attention, don't you?
6) If you cannot remember posting maybe you didn't actually say anything of substance.
7) With such a firm grasp of the obvious, is there a point you are trying to make other than that you must be gettin old? dontgetit.gif
8) Thanks for the welcome. Glad I could help.



Well you seem like a nice guy. I look forward to reading your pearls of wisdom.
Bogey
Unlimited
QUOTE(jaylemurph @ May 3 2007, 05:19 PM) [snapback]1657816[/snapback]
Does anybody know the earliest coherent theory of the reptiloids? And not "they've been here for millions of years and these pieces of art /prove/ it!" variety.
It's just that there was an episode of Doctor Who called Doctor Who and the Silurians, written in 1969, that pretty much parallels every Reptiloid story, but pre-dates most of the theories flying around here.
It wouldn't be the first time half-remembered sci-fi shows up in UFO lore...

--Jaylemurph


how about the dinosaurs?..werent they reptillian?...
jaylemurph
Well, yes, Unlimited, but unless I've missed it, no-one's suggesting the iguanadons or triceratops had an advanced culture...

--Jaylemurph
Bilbo Baggins
I do not understand why you guys hate lactation?
sun
QUOTE(Unlimited @ May 4 2007, 02:13 PM) [snapback]1659158[/snapback]
how about the dinosaurs?..werent they reptillian?...


Hi Guys,
well I joined new on this forum. Your debate has been a real interesting one. But I'd just like to add something. The simple fact is that there are no end to possibilities. Just stop and think for a moment about things like, from where did the first living cell come to earth or where does the whole vast space start and where does it end or scientists only thinking that there could be only carbon based life-forms.Well, Humans haven't even been to the nearest planet as yet, but still are confirming over the non-existence of other life-forms outside earth, probably another another galaxy. Do they really think holding the periodic table of earth, that these are the only elements present throughout the whole universe, the whole vast and wide space with all its galaxies. If we can't see something doesn't mean things don't exist. They well might be standing right next to you, watching all your moves and you wouldn't have a hint over what's happening.

Its always a pleasure discussing about these matters.

Take care...
Enigma wrapped in a puzzle
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jun 20 2006, 08:11 PM) [snapback]1239127[/snapback]
Sounds like The Blair Witch Project to me.



Ok Blair Witch is some ghostly type story about sacrifices. This is about Reptilian aliens I am failing to see how they sound similar to you.
Blueron
There was another topic on this -

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...files&st=30

However, since this topc is recent and many people were asking for counter arguments - how about reading what this guy has to say :

http://www.francescograssi.com/adv/2004_07_06.htm.

Personally, to me this lacerta file(s) at first seemed very much like Dr Who and the silurians. Then it began to get disconcerting. I can't get myself to believe that we are someone's petri dish-project to be served up for their purposes, i.e "slave wars" in the Lacerta texts. But the thing that struck me was the stuff said at the beginning of the "interview" - She is here to study Social engineering or something. The whole text looks like someones thesis for a pyschology major.

"your minds have been programmed in that way" - Huh ? Explain why hollywood has made so many flicks on Aliens ..and why it has captured the imagination of people if we were "preprogrammed" to ignore them or not have the ability to comprehend them. The link I mentioned above has raised some more counter arguments.
mealien
alien.gif Why didn't the person interviewing Lacerta use camcorder instead of just the recorder?
Teufelhund
I just wasted 45 minutes of my life reading that, boredom can make you do weird things...*sighs* mellow.gif
PansBox
One aspect of the file that I researched was the comet that hit earth 65 million years ago. Apparently, there are multiple craters (no actual fragments of the comet) that dates back to 65 million years. The shiva crater, which is highly debated, implies that a comet of 25 miles diameter hit earth at approximately the same time. Hmmm... that's interesting. Also, the evidence for this cataclysm is not so much in the material of the comet as it is in the effects of a thermal blast, that are often times associated with comets (i.e. crystaline globule structures, and iridium deposits).

FACT:

The Hominid's transformation to Human was faster than any other recorded species. This changes has been characterized as violent genetic mutations in the brains that increased the brain mass at a rate that was unprecedented in the grand taxonomy of evolution.

We have more junk DNA (90% of total DNA) than any other species. This is strange when you consider how efficiently evolution molds life.

Many ancient cultures such as the Sumerians and Egyptians reached their pennicle at the onset of their civilization, only to regress gradually with time. This is an archeological and anthopological anomaly that is widely known in the field, but is not much talked about.

Recent decoding of Neanderthal DNA has revealed that Humans did not genetically branch ouf from the Neanderthal ancestors. There is no DNA evidence that they ever mated with Humans.

65 million years ago there was a class of dinosaurs called Troodon. This species had a brain larger than most modern birds, and was said to have the same type of brain-mass /body-mass ratio as modern birds. This is important because evolutionary psychology tells us that the single most important indicator for intelligence is brain-mass/ body-mass ratio. THat's why a parot is so smart. The Troodon had a body mass of a small human, but a brain-mass/body-mass ratio that is of a higher degree to mammals. This creature also had a partially apposable thumb. They had large eyes which indicates they are of a nocturnal nature (think caves). link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troodon

There are African minning sites that date as far back as 60,000 B.C.

OPINION

Social Psychological studies have demonstrated that Humans have a group oriented mentallity that is shortsighted and is oblivious to others outside their group. This tendency extends to humanity's natural arrogant self perception. Assuming the universe revolves around earth is one example. It wasn't until Corpenicus heliocentric discovery were people's knowledge no longer pervious to their natural belief of being special. Similarly people nowadays naturally take the disposition that we could be uniqure amongst billions of candidates, that we may indeed be the only intelligent life form in the universe.

Emperical observation indicates that the necessary element for life in earth is a geophysical sourse that produces energy for some type of simple bacteria form that can be used as a food source for more complex organisms, thus the beginning of an ecosystem. Life exists in all facets of earth. They exist in near boling temperatures in thermal vents. They exist is freezing temperatures such as in anctarctica. Life even prospers in places that don't have sunlight such as a caves and deep underwater environments.

If we are to choose among two assumptions: 1. We are alone 2. We are not alone. Why do we relegate the assumption that we are not alone as the most complicated of all explanations when trying to undertand a mystery?

Lacerta files spoke to me in more ways than in its entertaining value.
SeaMare
QUOTE(PansBox @ Jun 5 2007, 11:19 AM) [snapback]1709773[/snapback]
Many ancient cultures such as the Sumerians and Egyptians reached their pennicle at the onset of their civilization, only to regress gradually with time. This is an archeological and anthopological anomaly that is widely known in the field, but is not much talked about.




w00t.gif True !....Only being sadly contemplated in men's locker-rooms....!
Sargent_pepper
hi everybody, i am normally talk spanish so just try to undestand me. .. What i would like to beleive in the lacerta files, as they give hope for this world, but i found ( or think i did) something that doesnt make sense. I the reptilians like the sun, and planet earth is supposed to be more of them than ours, why they just dont colonice the surface again and be happy with the sun light????

i didnt find an answer within the lacerta files for this. thanks if anyone answers.
Jim34
Hello. This happens to be my first post on this website, so bear with me. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the guy in the lacerta files say that what he posted was not the full interview. Also, I am fairly certain that he says that he intends to post the remainder of the interview as soon as he recieves permission from Lacerta. This Ole. K. fellow posted the second interview on May 3, 2000, eight years ago. Has anyone seen any updates to these files. If so please contact me through this site.
mudpuppy
QUOTE (Jim34 @ May 25 2008, 10:58 AM) *
Hello. This happens to be my first post on this website, so bear with me. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the guy in the lacerta files say that what he posted was not the full interview. Also, I am fairly certain that he says that he intends to post the remainder of the interview as soon as he recieves permission from Lacerta. This Ole. K. fellow posted the second interview on May 3, 2000, eight years ago. Has anyone seen any updates to these files. If so please contact me through this site.

I'd like to be included in that update also, if there is one. I find alot of what is discussed in the Lacerta Files similar to Barbara Marciniak's description of reptilians ( on and off planet) and also similar to much of the Sumerian history that Zachariah Sitchen writes about. Is the Illojim the same as the Elohim? It makes sense that it is.
crystal sage
QUOTE (libertyworld @ May 3 2007, 03:02 PM)
Well written? Good story? Science debated? C'mon people! You are smarter than that aren't you? What science? Rarely have I seen anything so blatently absurd and as easy to debunk as The Lacerta Files and here is why:

Their body temp is determined by their surroundings and is at about 90 degrees F in the shade so they have (sun) rooms down there to warm themselves in
their caves... which are as deep as 8000 meters below the surface?


The average (continental) geothermal gradient (increase) is about 25 degrees C/km, with a range of about 5-50 degrees C/km for extremes like ocean trenches and volcanic zones, respectively.
Using the average for their caves under the Asian continent that gives an ambient temperature (at 8000 meters) of about 213 C / 415 degrees F.
End of story ...even before the end of page ONE. sleepy.gif

If you check out the Speleological sites you'd find that many of the deep caves are really cold.
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Caves

linked-image

http://www.mospeleo.org/docs/pr6000.htm

QUOTE
http://home.earthlink.net/~douglaspage/id6.html
The world's deepest cave exploration to date occurred at a depth of 5,255 feet in Reseau Jean-Bernard in France. At 4,547 feet, the eighth deepest is Sistema Cheve, in northeastern Oaxaca, Mexico. Louise Hose has been to the bottom of Sistema Cheve, over 5 miles from daylight, near a water-filled tube in mylonitic marble referred to as the Terminal Sump. The air stops there, but the cave goes on, underwater. A non-toxic red fluorescein dye (C20H12O5) placed in the stream flowing into the main entrance to Sistema Cheve exits eight days and 8,284 feet lower, 11 miles north at a karst spring on the southern side of the Rio Grande in Cañon Santo Domingo. One exploratory scuba dive by Arizona cave diver John Schweyen into the Sump failed to penetrate to an air-filled passage.


http://public.carnet.hr/speleo/velebita/indexen.html

QUOTE
http://www.helenair.com/articles/2007/11/0.../c011101_03.txt

I’ve dreamed of deep caves,” Rykwalder wrote, “but never in my wildest fantasies have I envisioned anything this grand.”

“You’re usually hoping to find something that’s never been seen before,” Ballensky said. “In this case, it was how the cave developed.”

Exploration proved difficult. Bus-sized boulders littered the cave floor.

“It’s like bouldering except with a roof over your head,” Brown said.

The temperature was a constant, hypothermia-inviting 38 degrees.
AllP0werToSlaves
QUOTE (Normal Person @ May 3 2007, 01:00 PM) *
You dont think that they would have technology to reverse heating effects?

To me, the files changed my life after reading them, because for once in a my life i see something that perfectly fits into why humans are here, we were not built for this planet as you can see, and the highly advanced technology she talks about, using fusion and anti gravity, they have all been discussed before and A worker from area 51 actually came out and told them that they have alien technology, that used anti-gravity which would explain the RAPID expansion of technology in the last 50 years, and also why they came out with a jet that could float at that time. Everything that she says, makes perfect sense, and the reason why we think we are related to apes, is because we are what apes will be in 20 million years, our sped up evolution has yet to be proven, and this would explain it perfectly, it would also explain why there has been so many pictures of UFO's in ancient society, no other theory that i have ever read, and trust me i have THE THIRST for knowledge, has ever made more sense then this one, talking about changing the fields to create mind powers, would explain any paranormal incident, i mean even the stuff about atoms makes sense. Crossing over the electromagnetic fields or whatever it said, it could explain how there is so many other substances we dont know about.

Evolution is the key, and these alien species arent evil, they are just much higher evolved than us, i mean imagine something that has been evolving for 50 billion years. It boggles your mind, how their mind would work, i mean we always talk about opening up our mind and about TK and all that stuff, well this is the answer, it makes complete sense. ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

I cant find a single loophole in the whole two interviews, this would also explain the dinosaurs being wiped out, trust me guys im usually a skeptic about most things, but this is something else, i just wish that people would throw aside what they THINK is right, and try and build on what she said, using the atoms and fusion and all that.


After reading both of those interviews in their entirety, I'm going to have to say that I agree with you, NP. The context of this read was actually quite startling; there were some things I didn't expect. With no physical evidence (no pictures, no video, not even a sketch) it's very hard for us to just believe this guy. We are very right to be subjective and skeptical to each and every one of his claims. I know that most of us are, but for the sake of this thread and discussion, open your minds for a moment.

While we have only speculation, too much of what this alleged female reptilian tells makes sense. I've always wondered what the purpose of the human race was, and why we appear to be the only highly evolved species on a planet full of animals. The majority of Earth's conditions are horrible for human life, though it does contain the essentials to harvest it. It does seem a little fishy that we are just here existing in a world of plants an animals; using money and working jobs while the rest of nature and evolution takes place around us. I was extremely intrigued by the mention of multiple "dimensions" or however she put it in "human" terms.

Adding to the fact that I firmly believe we know complete crap about the universe around us, I can totally see this entire thing being real.


crystal sage
QUOTE (libertyworld @ May 4 2007, 02:43 AM)
Okaaaay...
1) I didn't "go back" for anything. I simply posted a comment on the subject.
2) Are you the one in charge of expiration dates?
3) Is this a problem for you? Is almost a full year a long time and are you going to be okay? huh.gif
4) Yes, we can all see the dates.
5) You do see that people, including you, are still paying attention, don't you?
6) If you cannot remember posting maybe you didn't actually say anything of substance.
7) With such a firm grasp of the obvious, is there a point you are trying to make other than that you must be gettin old? dontgetit.gif
8) Thanks for the welcome. Glad I could help.


Well I'm glad you did... I hadn't seen it before... It was quite an interesting read... I like the information on how to access paranormal abilities...

http://www.sabon.org/reptiloid/index4.html
I think what he referred to as "the physical reality of the sphere of influence {Feldraum}" could be the "Auric field ".

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The biological cause for these abilities lies on the side of matter, by the way, in the pituitary gland, which always is in the position to generate the frequencies to actively control the sphere of influence {Feldraum}. Even you people could theoretically do this; however, you are solidly blocked in these things. As I have said, the para-layer can interact with mind as well as with matter. For example, if I decide to use my mental powers once more in order to move this pencil, then, simply said, I imagine in my mind how my consciousness/awareness expands/amplifies itself on the matter side in the form of post-plasma to the pencil. In the sphere of influence this causes simultaneously an automatic command from the consciousness/awareness layer to the para-layer to interact with the matter layer of the pencil. Since the para-layer is not confined to the body, it is not even a problem that the pencil lies over there, for I can unerringly reach it, even without moving my matter body. Post-Plasma on this side, para-layer on the other. I have control over the pencil and the interaction brings the matter field of the pencil to the point where it changes in the manner in which it moves, for example.

[Comment by Ole K.: I certify that the pencil mentioned above abruptly at that very moment jumped into the air to a height of 20 cm and then fell back to the surface of the table. The sound is clearly heard on the recording tape. No one visibly had touched that pencil.]

Question: That is fascinating. Which kinds of paranormal activities can one generate with that?

Answer: All kinds. Everything that you call paranormal. As I said, this special layer lies in the sphere of influence {Feldraum} between the morphogenetic information layers and the matter layers and can interact with respect to both sides. That is to say, it can be interacted with solid matter as well as with mind or mental information, wherewith we can achieve everything that is generally designated as telekinesis and telepathy. The "connection absorption" with another consciousness/awareness is generally separate in the procedure from the simple influence of matter, since different consciousness/awareness fields work with different oscillations. A consciousness/awareness that sends or a consciousness/awareness that listens must first adapt itself to the other mind exactly, before any access is possible.


It seems logical!!! cool.gif
crystal sage
wink2.gif Sounds like shades of 'Atlantis' or 'Shambhala' http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...howtopic=122337
http://www.sabon.org/reptiloid/index4.html

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One of the main colonies in Inner Asia has as an example 9 of those kinds of supports, but that colony is also over 25 of your kilometers in size. The central building is generally a center of religion, but also a center for climate control, and a center for the behavior and the regulation of the lighting system. We have at our location all together 5 large artificial light sources which generate your UV light and its warmth through gravitational sources. The air shafts and the light systems from the surface likewise run through these columns and naturally, they are very intensely controlled.

By the way, we have 3 air shafts and 2 elevator systems there, and even a tunnel connection to the next main colony which lies approximately 500 kilometers to the southeast. One elevator shaft leads to a cavern near the surface, the other leads to one of our depots for the ships—you remember, the cylindrical ships—that is naturally concealed closer to the surface behind a rocky mountain face. Normally, there are only three ships there—it's a small depot. The other buildings of the colony are, for the most part, concentrically ordered in oval circles around the main supporting column, and they are without exception much flatter; generally only between 3 and 20 meters tall. The shape of the buildings is round and dome-like. The color is even differentiated according to circle and distance from the main column. To the north of the column, there is an additional, very large but very flat round building. This building interrupts the concentric system of the colony with its diameter of about 250 meters. It is the artificial sun zone in which specially illuminated corridors and rooms are housed. In these locations very powerful UV light predominates, and they are used in order to warm our blood. There is even a medical dispensary and a meeting room located there. Beyond the outer ring of the colony, there are zones in which animals are kept—you know, we MUST consume flesh as nourishment—and the gardens in which plant nourishment and mushroom culture are cultivated; there is also hot and cold running water there from subterranean sources. The power station is located on the edge of the colony. The station is driven by fusion as its base and it supplies the colony and the "suns" with energy. My group or "family" lives, by the way, in the fourth ring of buildings out from the central support column. So much in such a short time. To describe to you all the buildings and their tasks would be going too far. It is difficult to describe something like that to you, for it is a completely different set of surroundings and culture from what you are accustomed to in your life on the surface. You really have to see it for yourself to be able to believe it.
anarkhy
"Believe me, there are only 14 alien species on this planet and only eight of them abduct humans at the moment (again as far as we know)"

Thank god only 8 of all 14 aliens are abducting people, for a moment i was very concerned...

mudpuppy
QUOTE (anarkhy @ Jul 2 2008, 10:17 PM) *
"Believe me, there are only 14 alien species on this planet and only eight of them abduct humans at the moment (again as far as we know)"

Thank god only 8 of all 14 aliens are abducting people, for a moment i was very concerned...

Well, I'm curious about the infamous Heinz 57 types of aliens. How is it there are only 14 in 1999 (during the interview) and now it is disclosed that there are and have been since the 50's, 57 different types.
A Report on the Motivations and Activities of Extraterrestrial Races – A Typology of the Most Significant Extraterrestrial Races Interacting with Humanity
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There are an extensive number of extraterrestrial races known to be currently interacting with Earth and the human population. In a 1998 interview, Clifford Stone, a retired US army Sergeant who served in the US Army for 22 years and participated in covert operations to retrieve crashed extraterrestrial ships and extraterrestrial biological entities (EBE’s), revealed there were a total of 57 extraterrestrial races known to the US military. From this pool of extraterrestrial races, a number are more active than others, and can be claimed to have the most significance for human evolution and sovereignty. This report describes the main extraterrestrial races most commonly referred to in the literature who appear to have most strategic significance for the evolution and sovereignty of humanity, and their impact on a range of systemic global problems. The report distinguishes between these extraterrestrial races on the basis of their belonging to one of either two distinct groups. The first group contains extraterrestrial races with which ‘shadow governments’ responsible for extraterrestrial affairs, have reached agreements with and even collaborated in a number of joint projects. The extensive set of interlocking agreements between these races and the ‘shadow government’ in the US and elsewhere suggests the existence of a military-industrial-extraterrestrial complex of interests. There is also a second grouping of extraterrestrial races that lie outside of this web of clandestine agreements between extraterrestrial races and ‘shadow governments’/national security agencies. Most ‘contactees’ report these races to be ‘friendly’ to human interests suggesting a more ethical approach to the challenges confronting humanity as it prepares for the truth about the extraterrestrial presence and challenges posed by advanced extraterrestrial technology.


My guess.......perhaps, even though Lacerta's species were the first Terrans, they might not know all that is and has been going on here on Earth. Therefore, my advice, suspend disbelief concerning the story while more evidence can be gathered to prove it true or false and re-member that while her species know a great deal more than we do about the history of this planet and of humans, they may not have "the rest of the story" as Paul Harvey is fond of saying. Just food for thought.

Also, for those who may be following David Wilcock and/or Project Looking Glass, alot of what he states about this history of our planet and the aliens we have been involved with corroborate Lacerta's story (specifically concerning the Zeta's need for our DNA to further their species) and she told it ten years prior to David. He was probably 12 at that time.

I guess what puzzles me most is not the story itself. It's the fact that if you are here to study Humans and take a survey or two, then why just post a piece and drop completely out of sight for eight years? Where is the study and learning in that? You take one poll and all of the sudden your mission is complete? That would make a very lopsided survey. If change is the only constant than it would stand to reason that perhaps people's view and opinions would change over time also. Do Sociologists only study a society for two months and then draw all their conclusions?

It could be a privacy issue....maybe even a safety issue. And then again..........it could be a hoax. I guess only Ole K. knows for sure. The rest of us will just have to speculate.
Big Rich11
hey guys...great debate by the way.
I really do not know what to believe, i really think it is just an intelligent put together hoax. But i could be wrong =/.
I have recently come across this online. I think it is an interesting read : http://www.alliesofhumanity.org/.
I am quite sure M.V.M is really telling the truth.
Even if it is a hoax it still tells us how our human race should aproach things in the future to strengthen our race.
I reccomend you read this.
mudpuppy
QUOTE (Big Rich11 @ Aug 2 2008, 04:13 PM) *
hey guys...great debate by the way.
I really do not know what to believe, i really think it is just an intelligent put together hoax. But i could be wrong =/.
I have recently come across this online. I think it is an interesting read : http://www.alliesofhumanity.org/.
I am quite sure M.V.M is really telling the truth.
Even if it is a hoax it still tells us how our human race should aproach things in the future to strengthen our race.
I reccomend you read this.

Thanks for the site link BigRich. There's some pretty interesting information there. One thing that gets my attention, in regards to the Lacerta Files, is the Allies of Humanity's list of assumptions we need to confront:

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denial;
hopeful expectation;
misinterpreting the evidence to affirm our beliefs;
wanting and expecting salvation from the “visitors”;
believing that ET technology will save us;
feeling hopeless and submissive to what we assume is a superior force;
demanding government disclosure but not ET disclosure;
condemning human leaders and institutions while maintaining unquestioned acceptance of the “visitors”;
assuming that because they have not attacked or invaded us, they must be here for our good;
assuming that advanced technology equals advanced ethics and spirituality;
believing that this phenomenon is a mystery when in fact it is a comprehensible event;
believing that ETs in some way have claim to humanity and to this planet;
and believing that humanity is irredeemable and cannot make it on its own.


Some of the things on this list seem to be in contradiction to the Lacerta Files. For instance, "believing that ETs in some way have claim to humanity and to this planet". According to Lacerta, they were here first so that gives them first rights. Then you have the Allies which say that isn't necessarily so. There seem to be lots of dissention amongst many of the alien groups as to who has what rights.....which is peculiar seeing as how WE are the ones who are actually residing on this planet in plain sight. I would pretty much say that gives us the rights. Isn't possession 9/10ths of the law? Why would we hand over our sovernity to someone who lives on another planet or in a cave?

Speaking of caves..........as a society, if we haven't yet managed peace between Christians, Muslims, and Jews.....how are we ever going to get along with a bunch of Reptilians with a superiority complex? If I were them, I guess I probably wouldn't have to come topside to take any more surveys. I'd just take a look at the Middle East and know that we still don't fit the criteria for "first contact". Perhaps, that's why Lacerta went MIA.
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