I know i know ....fake fake fake is the cry
But i was just wondering if anyone ever came forward or was exposed on this ?
I found it stored on my c drive and only got to read it last night...has there ever been anything more about it ?

http://www.sabon.org/reptiloid/index3.html

been posted before: Reptillians evolved from dinosaurs, The extinction of the great civilisation was due to the aliens comming down and starting a new world order.. the world constantly regenerates - civilisation after civilisation. .. Reptillians can shape shift, Humans are psychologically programmed by aliens (genetically) enables them to manipulate us in terms of behaviour and the way we percieve aour surroundings .. for example we would not know if a huge alien mother ship came down and hovered above the White House because we are programmed to not see them unless they want us to. The Lacerta transcript also claims that there are different species of reptillians - each of which have different motives and have different symbols marking their territory (secret entrances to their underground caverns).. warrior reptillians guard their entrances in remote places... Reptillians live under ground, it is their habitat, they rarely come to surface, if they do it is to do with government agendas (royal family conspiracy), blah blah blah.. and blah..

i actually just read this last week and was gonna post it,,, i dont know if its true or what but its very well written, it would make a very intresting short film,, interview with an alien or something. only part i dident like was it agreed with almost ever theory and conspircie we have on these forums, baiscally its telling us we are all right on everything and the rest of the world is wrong,,, id like to think we are right but i somehow think we dont have it all right, so i belive its a fake.
well put toghter though.

Sounds like The Blair Witch Project to me.

It makes sense to me. Angkor Wat is a replica of the constellation of Draco, and it is covered in reptilian images. Also, there are ancient round towers in Ireland that line up with the "head" of the Draco constellation. Interesting facts if you ask me.

Well everyone is entitled to their opinion. I just think it sounds way out there!

Hi, I read that file while back and its a good story. I just wondered if you had seen anything else where the science within it is debunked or discussed.Cheers

Watch out, The Lacerta files and frogfish don't mix since frogfish is the all-knowing. I got banned from the site because of that. But here are some pictures anyways, because I really don't care. My woodchipper is big enough for everyone. These are pics of a supposed reptilian being. If you look hard enough, in one of the pics it looks as if there is a hellicopter above the creature because you can see debri swirling around it. Haha and other people said it looks like a penis. I dont see that part. It looks self-illuminating.

they look like stills from the film 'Predator'

that first picture definitely dont have a lizard's face, looks like a costume and it looks baggy.

Hey man,
where r these round towers that are in ireland that match the draco constelation... r u refering to the martello towers, because they were watch out post on the coast,

I see that part.

Where did these pics come from?

It looks like a really bad thermal picture, but if it was, then it is something really warm. I've noticed frogfish doesn't mix with anything not "scientifically proven"

Like some bloke just happened to have a thermal imaging camera on him in the one in a trillion chance he met an alien?....now a shoddy mobile phone shot I might have gone along with....for a while. I would still be interested about a link to where the science within this interview is discussed as it was waaaay above my head

The same site as the Lacerta Files. The rest of the site is in German, so I translated it and looked at all the other links on it. It's some guys own personal site...I tried emailing (cause his sister is a hotty) but I got no reply. The site is old. Late 90's.

still ...u seen anywhere were the science within is discussed ?

Haha! Well at least you had a good reason for emailing him...

I just read them today. I could just see my luck and them being real, and for some reason I am in some ancient cave walking along doing some research or something. Then I trip over a twig or something and fall into a wall of the cave which is actually that secret door thing, and then seeing the reptile symbol and being like "oh crap, Im screwed"

Well written? Good story? Science debated? C'mon people! You are smarter than that aren't you? What science? Rarely have I seen anything so blatently absurd and as easy to debunk as The Lacerta Files and here is why:

Their body temp is determined by their surroundings and is at about 90 degrees F in the shade so they have (sun) rooms down there to warm themselves in
their caves... which are as deep as 8000 meters below the surface?


The average (continental) geothermal gradient (increase) is about 25 degrees C/km, with a range of about 5-50 degrees C/km for extremes like ocean trenches and volcanic zones, respectively.
Using the average for their caves under the Asian continent that gives an ambient temperature (at 8000 meters) of about 213 C / 415 degrees F.
End of story ...even before the end of page ONE.

Some things do not need debunking - they do it themselves. So why bother??

I have to agree w/Liberty - just use common sense and a little science and it's "right there" - FAKE.

kinda reminds me of the super mario bros. movie hehe

Hey Libertyworld

You went back almost a full year for a thread to debunk ....The last post on this thread before yours is 25/6/06
I cant even remember posting on this ....must be gettin old
P.S....Welcome to U-M
Bogey

Okaaaay...
1) I didn't "go back" for anything. I simply posted a comment on the subject.
2) Are you the one in charge of expiration dates?
3) Is this a problem for you? Is almost a full year a long time and are you going to be okay?
4) Yes, we can all see the dates.
5) You do see that people, including you, are still paying attention, don't you?
6) If you cannot remember posting maybe you didn't actually say anything of substance.
7) With such a firm grasp of the obvious, is there a point you are trying to make other than that you must be gettin old?
8) Thanks for the welcome. Glad I could help.

Angkor Wat was not a replica of Draco. It was built as a representation of Mount Meru, home of the Hindu Gods.

You dont think that they would have technology to reverse heating effects?

To me, the files changed my life after reading them, because for once in a my life i see something that perfectly fits into why humans are here, we were not built for this planet as you can see, and the highly advanced technology she talks about, using fusion and anti gravity, they have all been discussed before and A worker from area 51 actually came out and told them that they have alien technology, that used anti-gravity which would explain the RAPID expansion of technology in the last 50 years, and also why they came out with a jet that could float at that time. Everything that she says, makes perfect sense, and the reason why we think we are related to apes, is because we are what apes will be in 20 million years, our sped up evolution has yet to be proven, and this would explain it perfectly, it would also explain why there has been so many pictures of UFO's in ancient society, no other theory that i have ever read, and trust me i have THE THIRST for knowledge, has ever made more sense then this one, talking about changing the fields to create mind powers, would explain any paranormal incident, i mean even the stuff about atoms makes sense. Crossing over the electromagnetic fields or whatever it said, it could explain how there is so many other substances we dont know about.

Evolution is the key, and these alien species arent evil, they are just much higher evolved than us, i mean imagine something that has been evolving for 50 billion years. It boggles your mind, how their mind would work, i mean we always talk about opening up our mind and about TK and all that stuff, well this is the answer, it makes complete sense.

I cant find a single loophole in the whole two interviews, this would also explain the dinosaurs being wiped out, trust me guys im usually a skeptic about most things, but this is something else, i just wish that people would throw aside what they THINK is right, and try and build on what she said, using the atoms and fusion and all that.

Does anybody know the earliest coherent theory of the reptiloids? And not "they've been here for millions of years and these pieces of art /prove/ it!" variety.
It's just that there was an episode of Doctor Who called Doctor Who and the Silurians, written in 1969, that pretty much parallels every Reptiloid story, but pre-dates most of the theories flying around here.
It wouldn't be the first time half-remembered sci-fi shows up in UFO lore...

--Jaylemurph

Those arent pictures of reptiles the face looks like it has tentacles.

Well you seem like a nice guy. I look forward to reading your pearls of wisdom.
Bogey

how about the dinosaurs?..werent they reptillian?...

Well, yes, Unlimited, but unless I've missed it, no-one's suggesting the iguanadons or triceratops had an advanced culture...

--Jaylemurph

I do not understand why you guys hate lactation?

Hi Guys,
well I joined new on this forum. Your debate has been a real interesting one. But I'd just like to add something. The simple fact is that there are no end to possibilities. Just stop and think for a moment about things like, from where did the first living cell come to earth or where does the whole vast space start and where does it end or scientists only thinking that there could be only carbon based life-forms.Well, Humans haven't even been to the nearest planet as yet, but still are confirming over the non-existence of other life-forms outside earth, probably another another galaxy. Do they really think holding the periodic table of earth, that these are the only elements present throughout the whole universe, the whole vast and wide space with all its galaxies. If we can't see something doesn't mean things don't exist. They well might be standing right next to you, watching all your moves and you wouldn't have a hint over what's happening.

Its always a pleasure discussing about these matters.

Take care...

Ok Blair Witch is some ghostly type story about sacrifices. This is about Reptilian aliens I am failing to see how they sound similar to you.

There was another topic on this -

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...files&st=30

However, since this topc is recent and many people were asking for counter arguments - how about reading what this guy has to say :

http://www.francescograssi.com/adv/2004_07_06.htm.

Personally, to me this lacerta file(s) at first seemed very much like Dr Who and the silurians. Then it began to get disconcerting. I can't get myself to believe that we are someone's petri dish-project to be served up for their purposes, i.e "slave wars" in the Lacerta texts. But the thing that struck me was the stuff said at the beginning of the "interview" - She is here to study Social engineering or something. The whole text looks like someones thesis for a pyschology major.

"your minds have been programmed in that way" - Huh ? Explain why hollywood has made so many flicks on Aliens ..and why it has captured the imagination of people if we were "preprogrammed" to ignore them or not have the ability to comprehend them. The link I mentioned above has raised some more counter arguments.

Why didn't the person interviewing Lacerta use camcorder instead of just the recorder?

I just wasted 45 minutes of my life reading that, boredom can make you do weird things...*sighs*

One aspect of the file that I researched was the comet that hit earth 65 million years ago. Apparently, there are multiple craters (no actual fragments of the comet) that dates back to 65 million years. The shiva crater, which is highly debated, implies that a comet of 25 miles diameter hit earth at approximately the same time. Hmmm... that's interesting. Also, the evidence for this cataclysm is not so much in the material of the comet as it is in the effects of a thermal blast, that are often times associated with comets (i.e. crystaline globule structures, and iridium deposits).

FACT:

The Hominid's transformation to Human was faster than any other recorded species. This changes has been characterized as violent genetic mutations in the brains that increased the brain mass at a rate that was unprecedented in the grand taxonomy of evolution.

We have more junk DNA (90% of total DNA) than any other species. This is strange when you consider how efficiently evolution molds life.

Many ancient cultures such as the Sumerians and Egyptians reached their pennicle at the onset of their civilization, only to regress gradually with time. This is an archeological and anthopological anomaly that is widely known in the field, but is not much talked about.

Recent decoding of Neanderthal DNA has revealed that Humans did not genetically branch ouf from the Neanderthal ancestors. There is no DNA evidence that they ever mated with Humans.

65 million years ago there was a class of dinosaurs called Troodon. This species had a brain larger than most modern birds, and was said to have the same type of brain-mass /body-mass ratio as modern birds. This is important because evolutionary psychology tells us that the single most important indicator for intelligence is brain-mass/ body-mass ratio. THat's why a parot is so smart. The Troodon had a body mass of a small human, but a brain-mass/body-mass ratio that is of a higher degree to mammals. This creature also had a partially apposable thumb. They had large eyes which indicates they are of a nocturnal nature (think caves). link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troodon

There are African minning sites that date as far back as 60,000 B.C.

OPINION

Social Psychological studies have demonstrated that Humans have a group oriented mentallity that is shortsighted and is oblivious to others outside their group. This tendency extends to humanity's natural arrogant self perception. Assuming the universe revolves around earth is one example. It wasn't until Corpenicus heliocentric discovery were people's knowledge no longer pervious to their natural belief of being special. Similarly people nowadays naturally take the disposition that we could be uniqure amongst billions of candidates, that we may indeed be the only intelligent life form in the universe.

Emperical observation indicates that the necessary element for life in earth is a geophysical sourse that produces energy for some type of simple bacteria form that can be used as a food source for more complex organisms, thus the beginning of an ecosystem. Life exists in all facets of earth. They exist in near boling temperatures in thermal vents. They exist is freezing temperatures such as in anctarctica. Life even prospers in places that don't have sunlight such as a caves and deep underwater environments.

If we are to choose among two assumptions: 1. We are alone 2. We are not alone. Why do we relegate the assumption that we are not alone as the most complicated of all explanations when trying to undertand a mystery?

Lacerta files spoke to me in more ways than in its entertaining value.

True !....Only being sadly contemplated in men's locker-rooms....!

hi everybody, i am normally talk spanish so just try to undestand me. .. What i would like to beleive in the lacerta files, as they give hope for this world, but i found ( or think i did) something that doesnt make sense. I the reptilians like the sun, and planet earth is supposed to be more of them than ours, why they just dont colonice the surface again and be happy with the sun light????

i didnt find an answer within the lacerta files for this. thanks if anyone answers.

Hello. This happens to be my first post on this website, so bear with me. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the guy in the lacerta files say that what he posted was not the full interview. Also, I am fairly certain that he says that he intends to post the remainder of the interview as soon as he recieves permission from Lacerta. This Ole. K. fellow posted the second interview on May 3, 2000, eight years ago. Has anyone seen any updates to these files. If so please contact me through this site.

I'd like to be included in that update also, if there is one. I find alot of what is discussed in the Lacerta Files similar to Barbara Marciniak's description of reptilians ( on and off planet) and also similar to much of the Sumerian history that Zachariah Sitchen writes about. Is the Illojim the same as the Elohim? It makes sense that it is.

If you check out the Speleological sites you'd find that many of the deep caves are really cold.
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Caves



http://www.mospeleo.org/docs/pr6000.htm



http://public.carnet.hr/speleo/velebita/indexen.html

After reading both of those interviews in their entirety, I'm going to have to say that I agree with you, NP. The context of this read was actually quite startling; there were some things I didn't expect. With no physical evidence (no pictures, no video, not even a sketch) it's very hard for us to just believe this guy. We are very right to be subjective and skeptical to each and every one of his claims. I know that most of us are, but for the sake of this thread and discussion, open your minds for a moment.

While we have only speculation, too much of what this alleged female reptilian tells makes sense. I've always wondered what the purpose of the human race was, and why we appear to be the only highly evolved species on a planet full of animals. The majority of Earth's conditions are horrible for human life, though it does contain the essentials to harvest it. It does seem a little fishy that we are just here existing in a world of plants an animals; using money and working jobs while the rest of nature and evolution takes place around us. I was extremely intrigued by the mention of multiple "dimensions" or however she put it in "human" terms.

Adding to the fact that I firmly believe we know complete crap about the universe around us, I can totally see this entire thing being real.

Well I'm glad you did... I hadn't seen it before... It was quite an interesting read... I like the information on how to access paranormal abilities...

http://www.sabon.org/reptiloid/index4.html
I think what he referred to as "the physical reality of the sphere of influence {Feldraum}" could be the "Auric field ".



It seems logical!!!

Sounds like shades of 'Atlantis' or 'Shambhala' http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...howtopic=122337
http://www.sabon.org/reptiloid/index4.html

"Believe me, there are only 14 alien species on this planet and only eight of them abduct humans at the moment (again as far as we know)"

Thank god only 8 of all 14 aliens are abducting people, for a moment i was very concerned...

Well, I'm curious about the infamous Heinz 57 types of aliens. How is it there are only 14 in 1999 (during the interview) and now it is disclosed that there are and have been since the 50's, 57 different types.
A Report on the Motivations and Activities of Extraterrestrial Races – A Typology of the Most Significant Extraterrestrial Races Interacting with Humanity


My guess.......perhaps, even though Lacerta's species were the first Terrans, they might not know all that is and has been going on here on Earth. Therefore, my advice, suspend disbelief concerning the story while more evidence can be gathered to prove it true or false and re-member that while her species know a great deal more than we do about the history of this planet and of humans, they may not have "the rest of the story" as Paul Harvey is fond of saying. Just food for thought.

Also, for those who may be following David Wilcock and/or Project Looking Glass, alot of what he states about this history of our planet and the aliens we have been involved with corroborate Lacerta's story (specifically concerning the Zeta's need for our DNA to further their species) and she told it ten years prior to David. He was probably 12 at that time.

I guess what puzzles me most is not the story itself. It's the fact that if you are here to study Humans and take a survey or two, then why just post a piece and drop completely out of sight for eight years? Where is the study and learning in that? You take one poll and all of the sudden your mission is complete? That would make a very lopsided survey. If change is the only constant than it would stand to reason that perhaps people's view and opinions would change over time also. Do Sociologists only study a society for two months and then draw all their conclusions?

It could be a privacy issue....maybe even a safety issue. And then again..........it could be a hoax. I guess only Ole K. knows for sure. The rest of us will just have to speculate.

hey guys...great debate by the way.
I really do not know what to believe, i really think it is just an intelligent put together hoax. But i could be wrong =/.
I have recently come across this online. I think it is an interesting read : http://www.alliesofhumanity.org/.
I am quite sure M.V.M is really telling the truth.
Even if it is a hoax it still tells us how our human race should aproach things in the future to strengthen our race.
I reccomend you read this.

Thanks for the site link BigRich. There's some pretty interesting information there. One thing that gets my attention, in regards to the Lacerta Files, is the Allies of Humanity's list of assumptions we need to confront:



Some of the things on this list seem to be in contradiction to the Lacerta Files. For instance, "believing that ETs in some way have claim to humanity and to this planet". According to Lacerta, they were here first so that gives them first rights. Then you have the Allies which say that isn't necessarily so. There seem to be lots of dissention amongst many of the alien groups as to who has what rights.....which is peculiar seeing as how WE are the ones who are actually residing on this planet in plain sight. I would pretty much say that gives us the rights. Isn't possession 9/10ths of the law? Why would we hand over our sovernity to someone who lives on another planet or in a cave?

Speaking of caves..........as a society, if we haven't yet managed peace between Christians, Muslims, and Jews.....how are we ever going to get along with a bunch of Reptilians with a superiority complex? If I were them, I guess I probably wouldn't have to come topside to take any more surveys. I'd just take a look at the Middle East and know that we still don't fit the criteria for "first contact". Perhaps, that's why Lacerta went MIA.