As the topic says, who or what is god for you?

Ohhh damn aliens was suppose to be a option also :/

God has no beginning and no end because God is unimaginable. The beginning and the end must be also unimaginable for an unimaginable item. The beginning and the end of the cosmic energy or space or the creation are also unimaginable. Therefore, the beginning and the end are unimaginable for the unimaginable item like God and also for the imaginable item like space. Therefore, the two points, which are the beginning-less and end-less characteristics cannot help you in understanding the real nature of God. If you start recognizing the God by simply these two points (beginning-less and end-less), you may think that God is an imaginable item like the space or energy or the creation. In fact based on these two characteristics people have imagined God as an imaginable item like space or energy or creation. This concept has misled people to such a low level that people think that God is the very infinite space or infinite energy or infinite creation. Therefore, one should filter the concept of God at this juncture itself. One should think that God has no beginning and no end because the beginning and the end of an unimaginable item are also unimaginable.

Such God desired to create this Universe for entertainment. The very desire itself is the Creation. In view of God this present materialized universe in only an idea or imagination or the very desire itself. Therefore, the desire to create the world is itself the desire and also the created world itself is a desire. Thus the creation, maintenance and dissolution of the imaginary world are also imaginations or desires. A part of this infinite creation is the individual soul. The soul is like a drop of the infinite ocean of imagination or desire of God. Thus, quantitatively the entire ocean of imagination of God is very huge compared to the tiny soul. Remember that both the Universe and the tiny soul are made of the same substance called as imagination or desire. Thus the force of the Universe is far greater than the force of the soul. Due to such huge quantitative difference of the same phase, the Universe, which is far stronger than the soul appears as a materialized entity for the soul. But this infinite ocean of desire, which is the infinite Universe is a tiny drop compared to the infinite force of God. Therefore, again due to the same quantitative difference of force the entire universe is just the very weak imagination from the view of God. Thus imagination and materialization exist simultaneously true from the point of God and soul.

For the sake of entertainment, God desired to create the Universe. This statement is in Veda (Sa dviteeya Maicchat). In this statement there is a very subtle intermediate stage, which is the essence of the desire to create the Universe. The desire to create the world is like the golden ornament but the essence of such desire is like the raw gold in which the ornament is not yet expressed. Such raw essence of the desire is pure awareness. The pure awareness is a special subtle form of energy, which is not qualified by any form. Such pure awareness is called as the spirit, which is not qualified and does not have any attribute. This is called as “Nirguna Brahman”, which means the pure awareness, which has no reference to the creation of the universe. It is a very critical and subtle point to recognize the pure awareness. Veda says that only very very sharp intelligence can grasp that critical state (Drushyate Tvagraya bhuddhya). Sankara, the topmost genius among the spiritual preachers could grasp that state and proposed the concept of Nirguna Brahman or non-qualified pure awareness. Such pure awareness is the first creation of God (Parabrahman). This first creation is almost as critical and unimaginable as the very Parabrahman itself. The only difference is that Parabrahman is absolutely unimaginable for any sharp intelligence, but this pure awareness is imaginable only for a very sharp intelligence. This pure awareness is called as Mula Prakriti or Suddha Sattvam or Mula Avidya or Mula Maya or the Spirit in general. The Parabrahman maintains such spirit and it is only an associated item and is the first created item. The word Mula means the first. This spirit is in the form of knowledge. It is aware of itself, which means that it is knowledge. Knowledge requires both subjective and objective characteristics. It is subject as well as the object. Therefore, it is called as knowledge or Sattvam. This knowledge is the first form of energy. Energy is always active. Action is the characteristic of Rajas. Such Spirit is unaware of its own creator who is the God. Therefore, it is having ignorance or Tamas. Thus, the Knowledge itself is action and ignorance. According to Gita Knowledge is Sattvam (Sattvaat Sanjayate Jnanam), action is Rajas (Rajah Karmani) and Ignorance is Tamas (Tamastva Jnanajam). Thus these three qualities are always inseparable. The pure knowledge (Suddha Sattvam) itself is pure action (Suddha Rajas), which is the pure ignorance (Suddha Tamas). Thus in the very first instant itself the three qualities are created simultaneously in the purest state. Since all these three co-exist, it is called as equilibrium of the three qualities. When the equilibrium is disturbed various items of awareness result in which the three qualities exist in various proportions. Such disturbance of the equilibrium resulting in various distorted items of the three qualities is the very creation. The various mixtures of these three qualities constitute this diversified universe, which is meant for the play of the God and for His entertainment. When the entertainment is over all the three qualities go into the equilibrium state. Thus the Universe is converted into Mula Prakruti.

God is in association with this Mula Prakruti in the beginning. At this stage the Mula Prakruti is only a creation or created item and cannot do anything further. Its equilibrium continues. In fact the Mula Prakruti is only inert and the continuation of such equilibrium is the inertia. God enters the Mula Prakruti and pervades it. Now this Mula Prakruti is electrified wire. It is the ignited stick and is called as fire. Now this Mula Prakruti becomes divine and is called as Brahman or the Holy Spirit. The Spirit, which is just the inert created item became Holy due to the existence of God in it. Now Brahman multiplies its little part of the Mula Prakruti in which, Parabrahman does not exist. This means that God enters ninety nine percent of Mula Prakruti and not one percent. This little part of un-divine Mula Prakruti is multiplied by the disturbed equilibrium and the Universe appears. Thus, the pure awareness in which God pervaded becomes Brahman. Now Brahman becomes the spectator of the Universe. The little pure awareness into which God did not enter is modified into the Universe in which God does not exist. Here the modification does not mean materialization. The modification means the undisturbed equilibrium being converted into disturbed equilibrium. In both the states the substance is only awareness. You can compare this to a day-dreamer’s mind. The mind of the day-dreamer is Mula Prakruti. A little part of the mind is converted into dream. The mind, which is not converted, is a spectator of the dream. The dreamer is identified with the spectator part of the mind. Thus the dreamer is witnessing the dream through his unmodified mind. The dreamer has not entered the dream and therefore is not multiplied. When the dream city is burning neither the spectator part of the mind is burnt nor the dreamer. The spectator part of the mind itself can be treated as the dreamer because the dreamer entered that spectator part of the mind and exists in it. Thus, Brahman, the spectator of the Universe can be treated as Parabrahman. Such Parabrahman who is the spectator of the Universe is called as Eeshwara. Thus, Parabrahman is the original unimaginable creator. Mula Prakrithi is the first created item, which is the pure awareness. Brahman is the major part of pure awareness in which Parabrahman entered and occupied it. The same Brahman enjoying the Universe by vision is called as Eeshwara. Neither Parabrahman nor Brahman nor the Eeswara has entered the Universe, which is the disturbed equilibrium of the three qualities. Thus, there is no disturbance in either Parabrahman or Brahman or Eeshwara. In Christianity God is Parabrahman. Brahman and Eeshwara are called as the Holy Spirit. The Spirit is the substance with which the Universe is made of. The spirit is not Holy because God did not occupy it. Thus the Universe is not Holy in Toto. It is Holy with reference to the good devotees and the divine incarnations. It is unholy with reference to bad living beings and Saturn. Parabrahman who is a spectator for sometime develops a desire to enter this Universe in the form of a living being especially as a human being because the main aim is to preach the divine knowledge. Veda says the same (Tadevaanu Praavishat). This divine human being in which, Parabrahman or Brahman or Eeshwara exists is called as human incarnation or God in Flesh. The human incarnation consists of four items. The first item is God. The second item is the Mula Prakruti, which is the pure awareness or Brahman or Aatman or Karana Sareeram (Casual Body). The third item is the disturbed equilibrium of the three qualities called as Jeeva or Sukshma Sareera (Subtle Body). The fourth item is the Gross body made of five elements (Sthula Sareera) which is again imaginary only in view of God but a materialized form in view of other human beings. If you analyse any ordinary living being it contains all the three bodies except God. If we analyse any inert item of the world it contains only the Gross Body made of the five elements.

God should be understood as the unimaginable creator. Next God can be understood as the unimaginable spectator of the world. Lastly, God should be understood as the unimaginable actor who has entered the Universal Drama in the form of Human Incarnation.

Why would God be bored?

To be bored denotes a need for entertainment, and thus having a need means God is not infallible.

I think that God is a timeless and placeless extension of our own universe. And I believe God created us out of love.

I believe god is everything, meaning god is nothing.

You know, saying everyone is special is really just another way of saying no one is special.

If god IS everything and nothing, light and dark, good and evil, above and below, inside and outside, etc. then I guess there is no god at all but only what IS.

God is knowable and unknowable, if god IS nature then understand and know nature but even then you still don't know "god" for god is everything and nothing and you can't know everything nor can you know nothing.

God is inside and outside of you, you can know thyself but god still remains unknowable.

All truths are but half-truths.

And oh ya I picked "Nothing".

HermeticHermit....you got your knewledge right on the dot.

Now I'm interested to hear what you have to say about death. whats the middle point that us as people reach once we die which fit within your beliefs? explain in detail! i love to hear those theories of your type of beliefs!!!!! mostly cause i belief in them too hehe.

fyi...
I VOTED NOTHING!
but it's also everything!

much respect
peaceNlove
Liz

who made up the name "God?"

God is energy.

So God is a paradox?

Well thank you AT

Very interesting question, I will ponder that tonight in a haze and get back to you tomorrow. I gots to get off this computer for the day.



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Indeed, God is a paradox like many things, some might even say the universe is a paradox.

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Lol, trying to cram god into a box? I didnt vote because god isnt any of those, god is god.

IMO our human minds cannot perceive even 1% of Him

I believe we are all attached to a higher self which is indeed attached to god, once we are done here, if we are pure enough to find enlightenment we will reunite with our higher self which is our true self, not this physical shell that we enhabit. Nor is this world anything more then a flickering shadow compared to what there is to come.

I also believed thats what jesus tried to teach, I believe thats what all "anchient masters" tried to teach, however most humans cannot perceive even this simple fact with their physical brains. Which is why jesus tried thoroughly to explain to the prophets, this simple fact, before he was persecuted.

God is the pureness in us, and the pureness in us is god. For those who will accept it; the simplest way to view it.

I picked "none of the above". OH wait, no i didn't. that wasn't an option. Oh well, I guess I didn't vote

If I could edit the poll I would add that

The entire universe emanates as the almighty's necklace of jewels.

This help? This includes everything inside this poll topic.

Life = Death / Death = Life

Without life there is no death, without death there is no life. Life feeds on life, with life comes death and with death comes life. Creatures on this planet kill to survive, kill to live. Death makes life possible, without death life would cease. If life is death then death is life.

We live to die, do we die to live? Is our death a rebirth?

I believe in reincarnation, with our death comes life, our rebirth. We are reborn into a Life that requires death to continue. To live and die only to live and die again, to be reborn is to die once more. Can this be called Life? Shouldn't this be called Death?

An endless cycle of physical death cannot be called Life. People cling to this "Life" not recognizing that it is actually Death. If "Life" is Death, is "Death" actually Life?

I believe in an escapable reincarnation, with our death comes the opportunity to escape this Death called "Life". If we cling to this "Life" which is actually our Death we can never escape it. I look to death not to return to this Death called "Life" but to find Life, the real Life that people call "Death".

Physical life is spiritual death, physical death is spiritual life.

Embrace the spiritual while in this physical "Life", recognize it as Death and in death you will find Life. Cling to this physical "Life" after death and you will only find this Death which people call "Life".

But this world, though full of its share of death and suffering, is beautiful. If this is Death then Death is both beautiful and ugly.

This world is one of opposites, a paradox. It is at the same time Life and Death, Light and Dark, Beauty and Ugliness. It is not perfect because perfection is flawless and the truly flawless is the Divine. It is imbalanced because balance is the Divine. The Divine was like a perfectly clear crystal, not a flaw in it. It was perfect and balanced but empty of all but the Fullness of Divine Light. Then it cracked, the light now bounced of these cracks and brought imbalance and shadow but also something visible in this once clear crystal. This imbalance is the world we live in, the Good and Evil, Light and Dark, Life and Death, the only way to experience these things is to have this imbalance.

To return to the Divine we must bring balance, for the Divine is balance. Some prefer imbalance, others have grown tired. In this life I strive for balance by seeing the opposites as One, by gaining the knowledge once again that I have gained and lost through the ages of rebirth. I imagine that Life is Death and Death is Life to prepare myself for the One thing. I will not think of the things I leave behind when I die, the people, the memories, that which I wished to do but didn't, for realistically there is nothing that can change that, I am dying. I will embrace, in that brief moment of timeless eternity, Death because I know it is Life.

As the Dali Lama once said, some people become afraid when they think of Death, I smile.

God(s) for me is nothing specific. God is simply a word to represent a certain unseeable force that watches over everyone and everything as a sort of mediator to life. It's a word to represent something that makes sure all of the 'i's' are dotted and the 't's' of the universe are crossed. Whether God is a man, woman, dove, or devil holds no concern to me. God simply is.

...I don't know if that makes sense or not, but it's just what I'm most comfortable believing.

If you want to add another option or two, PM myself or Irish or another moderator and we'll fix it for you

[G-d] is:

1. April 6, 1982 at the Spectrum in Philadelphia
2. September 19 & 20, 1970 at the Fillmore East in NYC
3. October 22, 1978 at Winterland in SF
4. June 18, 1983 at SPAC in Saratoga Springs, NY
5. ... and every other time "they" interacted with "us" and "it" "happened."

"Look out of any window/Any morning, any evening, any day/Maybe you'll find direction/Around some corner/Where it's been waiting/To meet you..."

I agree. Everything around us, everything we know, even ourselves - are all made up of energy. God is the Energy source. Just like the sun is the energy source for all life, God is the energy source for everything in existence in both the physical and spiritual realms. If he would cease to exist, so would we.

The Gods from the Bible and ancient times are ancient aliens that are far beyond us on every level(considering they are responsible for creating us). However. the infinite ALL of the Universe is a much greater mystery.

I also believe human beings are Gods in a sense, just very young ones. We are among a type of being in the Universe that literally has the potential to comprehend and unlock the mysteries of the Universe.

to me god as one is all, like the universe everything that we see and hear and touch basically ALL that is,but the manifestation of god in man is a whole other story but not, that has to do with the mother and father, that of the fesh that brought you here today,or like a plus or a minus in a battery, only that of light and dark in god as one,you need the two to have the one. but also in the celesta brought forth in the spirit to me but to you would be like mother earth and father moon like a harmony of the too to make the one in me the son ,the understanding of oneself from within the holy spirit that ads form the fire of one,god as one .bringing mother earth to give good grounding up though the base chakra along with father moon through the crown chakra meeting at the heart chakra shining like a prism, a rainbow of colars showing the truth of oneself in the root that makes i am.

my vote goes to all of the above for god as one is all that is.

here are a few lines from the gospel of truth:when the whole went seeking for the ONE from whom ALL come, the ALL was found to be the DIVINE SELF,ALMIGHTY GOD,inscrutable,indescribable,supreme. Nescience had caused anxiety and fear, a smutty fog that made peaple feel blind.Error became potent and,through folly,began creating with force and beauty a falsity of truth.This wasn't an embarrasment for the inscrutable,indescribable Supreme; it was as nothing, this angst,forgetfulness and guile, for Real Truth is unchanging perfection.

I voted that God is "Nothing". I voted this because I believe God is everything and therefore no-thing inparticular.

I think God is Love and because Love is in us, so therefore is God, but Love wasn't in the survey thingy so I couldn't tick that bit.

I agree, good post!

To me we are the God's i believe God is created from human imagination. God is the same as a swiss army knife which can be used for many purposes war, love , hope , fear , peace.

I'm a bit torn what to pick, but I think I am going to with nature. Nature is capable of miraculous things.

None of the above. God has a physical form and is definanlty NOT invisible. Heaven is in space the thrones of angels are the stars and God has a blinding light face which emits sparks, a voice of many thunders, eats and breathes fire, and is enormous. No human can see God and live because it would be akin to sitting next to the Sun, you'd burn alive. That is why no one sees God.

A soul also is made of matter, electrical energy. No electrical energy and nothing which breathes on the planet would be alive. That energy survives the body and yes there are texts to back all this up.