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Sasa
So what about these aliens, UFO’s, alien abductions and crop circles? Are there other life forms? Are people abducted by aliens and experimented on? Are crop circles created by these dame aliens?

It’s something I’ve often wondered myself. I’m a lover of astronomy and I’ve spent a good amount of time contemplating the heavens, stars, planets and the likelihood of there being other forms of life off in the vast universe we call home. However, I’m here to tell you that aliens, UFO’s alien abductions and crop circles are all the work of either angels or demons and they are created for two completely different reasons depending on who it is that is creating them.

Some of the phenomena witnessed is the wheels of the Cherubic Order fulfilling prophecy. They often appear as circles of lights before an earthquake, tidal wave, or even the eruption of a volcano. It is simply a Sign for the Record, and a visual Witness to Mankind. One example would be the event of April 3, 2001 in which “an enormous luminous and mysterious OVNI (Spanish acronym for UFO) moved across the sky over hillside homes in Colonia Olimpica, a barrio (neighborhood) on the outskirts of Guadalajara.

It happened again on March 5, 2001 over Popcatepetl and dozens of residents from local communities called radio stations to report a sighting that could be seen in particular area near the volcano. An eyewitness reported, “the object had movement, passed over the volcano, turned around and rotated.” A resident pointed out that the lights remained fixed in the sky while another moves around it. Popocatepetl has an elevation of 18,288 feet and is one of the places in Mexico where there is talk of suspicious lights and UFOs. A number of these reports have emanated from the mountain since its current cycle of active volcanism began in December 1994.

When demons create UFO lights, it is done in a unified effort by combining their energy and casting either circular or oddly shaped designs. The flux that occurs when the lights flicker or fade out suddenly, giving the viewer the impression that the “UFO” has vanished is actually the depletion of their combined energies. If they rev a recharge, that is when they come back into focus, then fade out again. That's because they have to fully recharge in order to hold for any length of time. They can do 90 degree turns on a dime because they are supernatural. Satan also has some ability to materialize matter. They use all of their abilities to their best advantage of fooling the masses in the different false beliefs that have been fostered by Satan over the centuries.

The demons want people to believe that this earth is being visited by other life forms from other planets, galaxies, etc. because the Creator is settling a dispute between Satan, his demons, and Mankind. The Azmon barrier is not only in place to keep Satan and his demons trapped on the detention plane, but it also serves to keep track of who enters the detention plane. And since the planets are not yet inhabited in creation except for the Earth, there are no other life forms created on the other planets. That is all part of the Creator's future plan for creation as a whole on the physical plane. If that were so, and life forms existed, they would be known to the Heavenly Court. In addition, there would be Records at the Great Hall of Records indicating their existence in volume upon volume, considering how many planets there are throughout the physical creation. But, there are no such Records in existence; and everything is recorded at the Great Hall.

Why do the demons want all of us to think there are life forms (aliens) visiting Earth? It is a trick by Satan to try and cover up the real issue at hand; which is, that the Earth is the hub of what is going on in creation. If Mankind believes other life forms exist, they discount the Scriptures. They often wonder "Why does the Bible not mention other life forms in the Universe of creation?" It is because they do not yet exist. We were created in God's image, just as the angel's were. That means we possess God's attributes. We are capable of love, sorrow, happiness, etc. But the main thing he granted everyone is free will.

There is nothing new under the Sun. The Bible tells us that. Satan seeks to resemble the creator in all that he does. Therefore, Satan has sacrifices in his own name, just like the Creator had His sacrifices. Satan fosters witchcraft, with a Coven of 13, in contrast to the 12 Apostles. The Creator has Christ as his Only Begotten Son. Satan wants a son as well. The alien abductions are nothing more than Satan trying to bring forth a child. He has not yet been successful. But it was a reality for many of the demons that caused the Nephilim prior to the Great Flood. They seek to do the same thing, and in doing so, give Satan what he wants. It is possible for Satan to physically create sperm with his genes in it, just as the demons did before the flood. And yes, they have tried in the past to cause pregnancies, but all have been failures. However, Satan draws off of genetic research, and thinks he can now be successful.

When Satan's demons pretend to be "Visitors," i.e., alien abductors, they take the person inside of an orb. There, they have the ability to perform experiments at trying to impregnate a female. They often examine to make certain the female is fertile. What Satan is trying, has been tried a number of times without success. His ability to manipulate matter gives the impression that the demons are aliens, and that you are in a spacecraft of some kind. But the truth is, you never leave this planet. You are inside the orb, and after they have finished, they use hypnosis or some other mind altering phenomena to try and repress the memories of the event.

The Crop Circles are nothing more than angelic writing. The same symbols appear at the Great Hall of Records. In some cases it is done by demons and in others, it's the Cherubic Order giving a visual record of a coming Prophecy. The demons often imitate what the Holy Angel's perform in the way of Signs. But when the demons do it, it means something entirely different.

The only way I know that a person might differentiate between which side is making lights in the sky, is if an event occurs; then that is usually associated with the Cherubic Order. But, if it's just lights or objects just for the sake of being seen, then that will be the demons. Like they did at the U.S. Air Force Base in England, years back. That was to give a case study that supported alien visitation to this planet. Satan is very crafty at what he does. And he considers himself the Father of Science. I know without a doubt that Satan is behind genetic research and the cloning of humans. It falls right in line with what he wants. If Mankind is not careful, Satan's demons will figure out a way to inhabit a cloned human - and I'm not talking about demonic possession. I'm talking about becoming that human clone. The famous Sheep that was cloned, aged quickly. Satan knows time is not on his side. That would be right up his alley to have a clone, age to maturity, quickly. If Satan really wants to be in human form as the Anti-Christ, that might be his avenue. If not successful, he'll have to settle for possession of the body as they often do with demon possessed people; but I know Satan, and that's not how he would like to do it.

The Skeptic Eric Raven
Hmm. How about they are just misidentified? I don't think we need to bring poor old demons into it.
StaringBack
I wish modern day Christians would get past the time-worn "science is the work of the Devil" act. You're 100 years too late. Sorry, but it's people like you that keep Mankind from progressing and advancing. Genetic research is far from "the work of the Devil". Are you like 80 or something?

As for the UFO's, if you're trying to disprove them, what's so wrong with them being government research projects and abductees suffering from sleep paralysis and crazy dreams? (not that I think they don't exist, but come on!)
chaoszerg
so aliens are not real but demons are..... hmm.gif huh?




so i see poor satan and demons have to take the blame for bad things happening to people by supposed aliens. no.gif
psyco
ALIENS ARE REAL! I SAW A SHIP BEFORE. RIGHT OUTSIDE MY WINDOW!!! THAT WAS HORROR ON A WHOLE NEW LEVEL!
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(psyco @ Jun 24 2006, 02:35 PM) [snapback]1244337[/snapback]

ALIENS ARE REAL! I SAW A SHIP BEFORE. RIGHT OUTSIDE MY WINDOW!!! THAT WAS HORROR ON A WHOLE NEW LEVEL!

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chaoszerg
Ok lets look at it this way what if ALIENS and UFO'S were mistaken for angels and demons.
psyco
I thought the same thing. You probabally wont see a ship so go to www.crowdedskies.com
Sasa
QUOTE(StaringBack @ Jun 24 2006, 11:52 AM) [snapback]1244299[/snapback]

I wish modern day Christians would get past the time-worn "science is the work of the Devil" act. You're 100 years too late. Sorry, but it's people like you that keep Mankind from progressing and advancing. Genetic research is far from "the work of the Devil". Are you like 80 or something?


I don't have a problem with you attacking the THEORY or the IDEA but there's no reason to attack ME PERSONALLY. And just for the record, it's people like YOU who I have absolutely NO respect for. This has nothing to do with "Science is the work of the Devil" and I absolutely do not believe that. But I do believe that many people are mislead and completely unaware of what's really going on in this world. This IS progression and advancement. Believing in little green men with big heads in spaceships is not.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Sasa @ Jun 24 2006, 02:54 PM) [snapback]1244362[/snapback]

I don't have a problem with you attacking the THEORY or the IDEA but there's no reason to attack ME PERSONALLY. And just for the record, it's people like YOU who I have absolutely NO respect for. This has nothing to do with "Science is the work of the Devil" and I absolutely do not believe that. But I do believe that many people are mislead and completely unaware of what's really going on in this world. This IS progression and advancement. Believing in little green men with big heads in spaceships is not.

Maybe you should think that there is nothing to any of it. Religion=fanatic.
Sasa
QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Jun 24 2006, 12:55 PM) [snapback]1244364[/snapback]

Maybe you should think that there is nothing to any of it. Religion=fanatic.


LMAO What is that supposed to mean? Gimme a break. rolleyes.gif
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Sasa @ Jun 24 2006, 03:00 PM) [snapback]1244368[/snapback]

LMAO What is that supposed to mean? Gimme a break. rolleyes.gif

It means most very religous people are blinded by their beliefs.
skyeagle409
Of couse aliens are real. Military and commercial pilots are still encountering them around the world and ATC personnel have recorded flight tracks of UFOs within our atmosphere. NORAD has done the same while tracking UFOs in space so we know as a fact that ET spaceships exist and in fact, NORAD has a classification system to identify certain types of ET UFOs as well.
chaoszerg
QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Jun 24 2006, 09:02 PM) [snapback]1244371[/snapback]

It means most very religous people are blinded by their beliefs.




not all of course lol. Sasa so let me try and understand this are implying that aliens are the creation of demons or that aliens are not real just demons and angels.

Please excuse my ignorance
Sasa
QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Jun 24 2006, 01:02 PM) [snapback]1244371[/snapback]

It means most very religous people are blinded by their beliefs.


Goes to show just how much YOU know. I'm not "Religious" at all. I don't even belong to an organized religion other than Christianity. I'm a paranormal researcher, demonologist and author. I've stumbled across a pretty interesting explination that I feel could very well be the truth behind the "Alien" phenomena and I'm sharing it. If you're too nimbleminded or blind to see and/or understand it because you have a problem with religion or Christianity or both, then that's your problem dude.
Sasa
QUOTE(skyeagle409 @ Jun 24 2006, 01:07 PM) [snapback]1244374[/snapback]

Of couse aliens are real. Military and commercial pilots are still encountering them around the world and ATC personnel have recorded flight tracks of UFOs within our atmosphere. NORAD has done the same while tracking UFOs in space so we know as a fact that ET spaceships exist and in fact, NORAD has a classification system to identify certain types of ET UFOs as well.


UFO = Unidentified Flying Object. To say that they are Extraterrestrial is an assumption not a fact.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Sasa @ Jun 24 2006, 03:07 PM) [snapback]1244377[/snapback]

Goes to show just how much YOU know. I'm not "Religious" at all. I don't even belong to an organized religion other than Christianity. I'm a paranormal researcher, demonologist and author. I've stumbled across a pretty interesting explination that I feel could very well be the truth behind the "Alien" phenomena and I'm sharing it. If you're too nimbleminded or blind to see and/or understand it because you have a problem with religion or Christianity or both, then that's your problem dude.

Well you sure have a belief in demons. So are you saying you don't have a belief in god? You have to admit that this theory sounds rather silly even for someone as nimbleminded as you. innocent.gif
Sasa
QUOTE(chaoszerg @ Jun 24 2006, 01:07 PM) [snapback]1244375[/snapback]

not all of course lol. Sasa so let me try and understand this are implying that aliens are the creation of demons or that aliens are not real just demons and angels.

Please excuse my ignorance


Demons would like us to think that Aliens are real and they manifest looking like them and create the lights in the sky that people report. Demons/Ghosts/Spirits have the ability to manifest in any shape or form that they please. Aliens are NOT real. Demons and Angels are.
sean2011
ok i'm liking the theory seems like an interesting thing but i really dont believe it, im liking the idea that our solar system is really just as big as it gets and it was all created by god and satan was put somewhere, but the truth is if the universe is as big as they say it is then it would be selfish and pretty stupid to think theres no one else in the whole universe except us. ok so the theory the over planets havent got nothing on them and there the nest thing to create for the creator ok so this planet been here billions of years why ain't he/she/watever gone and creater life on another planet your making it sound it's gonna happen soon. i don't think anyone really believes aliens are little green men but i 99.9% garentee theres other foams of life out there somewhere, but dont be thinking there going to be anything like us. demons and angels making signs come on whats the point, and what you talking about why it is not in the bible ok due to the facts the bible was created by people who lived in the times of jesus and half the stories wrote down were from jesus then why would he want to tell us all about over life on other planets we hadn't the need to know at that point.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Sasa @ Jun 24 2006, 03:11 PM) [snapback]1244385[/snapback]

Demons would like us to think that Aliens are real and they manifest looking like them and create the lights in the sky that people report. Demons/Ghosts/Spirits have the ability to manifest in any shape or form that they please. Aliens are NOT real. Demons and Angels are.

IN YOUR OPINION.
skyeagle409
QUOTE(sean2011 @ Jun 24 2006, 08:12 PM) [snapback]1244386[/snapback]

ok i'm liking the theory seems like an interesting thing but i really dont believe it, im liking the idea that our solar system is really just as big as it gets and it was all created by god and satan was put somewhere, but the truth is if the universe is as big as they say it is then it would be selfish and pretty stupid to think theres no one else in the whole universe except us. ok so the theory the over planets havent got nothing on them and there the nest thing to create for the creator ok so this planet been here billions of years why ain't he/she/watever gone and creater life on another planet your making it sound it's gonna happen soon. i don't think anyone really believes aliens are little green men but i 99.9% garentee theres other foams of life out there somewhere, but dont be thinking there going to be anything like us. demons and angels making signs come on whats the point, and what you talking about why it is not in the bible ok due to the facts the bible was created by people who lived in the times of jesus and half the stories wrote down were from jesus then why would he want to tell us all about over life on other planets we hadn't the need to know at that point.



Actually, many of us in the aviation world do know that ET spaceships exist. I had my own experience over Vietnam back in 1968. The Air Force has already admitted that ET spaceships do exist and said so under Project Saucer file #75, the EOTS, ATIC, Wright-Patterson AFB, OH, 1948 and an Air Force Intelligence report, 1952. During the 1950's Air Force pilots were ordered to shoot down UFOs. The following is a small example of what has been going on.

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Radar and Pilot Cases

Introduction

"This area of testimony deals specifically with pilot encounters, radar cases and related cases. It should be pointed out that for decades, people who have been skeptical of the UFO subject have asserted that if these objects were real, they would have been tracked on radar. We have no fewer than 20 witnesses from the Air Force, the Marines, the Navy, the Army, and civilian authorities in the United States and abroad who are qualified air traffic controllers and pilots who have seen and tracked these objects on radar. Please note that these people state emphatically that these objects have not been weather balloons; they have not been air inversions; they have not been “swamp gas.” They have been structured craft often traveling at thousands of miles per hour, then suddenly stopping, hovering or moving in a nonlinear fashion. These objects have been tracked going from one spot to hundreds of miles away or further within one radar sweep. These are solid objects. They are metallic and they give strong and unambiguous radar returns."



FAA Division Chief John Callahan: October 2000

"For 6 years Mr. Callahan was the Division Chief of the Accidents and Investigations Branch of the FAA in Washington DC. In his testimony he tells about a 1986 Japanese Airlines 747 flight that was followed by a UFO for 31 minutes over the Alaskan skies. The UFO also trailed a United Airlines flight until the flight landed. There was visual confirmation as well as air-based and ground-based radar confirmation. This event was significant enough for the then FAA Administrator, Admiral Engen, to hold a briefing the next day where the FBI, CIA, President Reagan’s Scientific Study Team, as well as others attended. Videotape radar evidence, air traffic voice communications and paper reports were compiled and presented. At the conclusion of this meeting, the attending CIA members instructed everyone present that ‘”he meeting never took place” and that “this incident was never recorded.” Not realizing that there was additional evidence, they confiscated just the evidence presented, but Mr. Callahan was able to secure videotape and audio evidence of the event."

http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc620.htm
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Sasa
QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Jun 24 2006, 01:11 PM) [snapback]1244384[/snapback]

Well you sure have a belief in demons. So are you saying you don't have a belief in god? You have to admit that this theory sounds rather silly even for someone as nimbleminded as you. innocent.gif


"I know you are but what am I?" How old are you? 12? No, I'm not saying I don't believe in God. Of course I believe in God. God created the angels. Some angels (The ones from the Celestial order and Satan - who was of the Cherubic Order) fell from grace. They are fallen angels. Fallen angels are demons. I have a belief in demons because I've experienced them first hand and through my work as a demonologist. Have you experienced Aliens? Ever? Had one knock on your door? Appear at the end of your bed and ask for your Leader? Probably not. But you believe in them, right? That sounds even sillier than believing in demons if you ask me...believing in something you've never even experienced...
chaoszerg
QUOTE(Sasa @ Jun 24 2006, 09:11 PM) [snapback]1244385[/snapback]

Demons would like us to think that Aliens are real and they manifest looking like them and create the lights in the sky that people report. Demons/Ghosts/Spirits have the ability to manifest in any shape or form that they please. Aliens are NOT real. Demons and Angels are.



Thank you for your reply but how can you say aliens are not real but angels and demons are? Like i said what if aliens are actually the ones who are real and confused with demons and angels and that demons and angels are not real. AND before ericraven can say this yes they both might not be real.... thumbsup.gif lol sorry bud i had to get there before you. But i see that you have a strong belief that demons are real and aliens don't exsist just demons and angels. You do realize i have to of course ask for proof i cant just take your word for it thumbsup.gif
Sasa
QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Jun 24 2006, 01:12 PM) [snapback]1244388[/snapback]

IN YOUR OPINION.


Now you're catching on.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Sasa @ Jun 24 2006, 03:16 PM) [snapback]1244393[/snapback]

"I know you are but what am I?" How old are you? 12? No, I'm not saying I don't believe in God. Of course I believe in God. God created the angels. Some angels (The ones from the Celestial order and Satan - who was of the Cherubic Order) fell from grace. They are fallen angels. Fallen angels are demons. I have a belief in demons because I've experienced them first hand and through my work as a demonologist. Have you experienced Aliens? Ever? Had one knock on your door? Appear at the end of your bed and ask for your Leader? Probably not. But you believe in them, right? That sounds even sillier than believing in demons if you ask me...believing in something you've never even experienced...

Actually they both sound silly but if I had to pick one I would think demons being real are sillier. You silly wabbit.
Sasa
QUOTE(chaoszerg @ Jun 24 2006, 01:17 PM) [snapback]1244395[/snapback]

Thank you for your reply but how can you say aliens are not real but angels and demons are? Like i said what if aliens are actually the ones who are real and confused with demons and angels and that demons and angels are not real. AND before ericraven can say this yes they both might not be real.... thumbsup.gif lol sorry bud i had to get there before you. But i see that you have a strong belief that demons are real and aliens don't exsist just demons and angels. You do realize i have to of course ask for proof i cant just take your word for it thumbsup.gif


You're welcome. To answer your question, I can say it because I've experienced demons and through my research I also have an indepth understanding on how the Spirit Realm works. I understand what is happening behind the scenes with the Spiritual War. I have a close relationship with the Cherubic Order - I'm not just pulling this outta my arse.

There are plenty of people who believe with all their hearts that Aliens exist and yet they have no proof. I have proof that demons exist. Anyone is absolutely FREE to believe whatever they choose. I'm not asking that anyone take what I have to say on the subject as the "Gospel Truth" (no pun intended) just that they give it some thought.
demonic presence
ok, a few things wrong with this.
1. Not everyone believes in angels and demons so dont drag religion into this
2. You said demons can manifest themselves in any form they please? such as aliens? hmmm if this is true then how come no "demon" i have encountered in my years of paranormal study has made themselves look like an alien if they want us to think they exist so bad?
3. Besides studying paranormal i have also studyed magick and a little demonology and i have summoned spirits before and none of them have said anything about aliens or UFO's
4. How can you say, that throughout this infinite universe that there isnt at least one other planet that has life on it?? There has go to be lifeforms on some other planet
Cinders
I can understand Sasa's point of view and she does make some interesting points.

However, most sightings of UFO's do not have tragedies associated with them.

Recently SEVERAL people here in Portland, Oregon saw some very strange things in the skies just before and after midnight of April 29 / 30, 2006. (I only just found this out when visiting NUFORC's website.. I am so relieved to know I was not the only one who saw something!)

But nothing that I recall of any other significance happened around this time ie: St Helen's still keeping her cool, no tidal waves hit our coastal beaches, etc.

Sasa, have you or anyone you know closely and trust ever see a UFO or Alien?

I am a believer of God, or Higher Spirit.. but I've never associated UFO's or Aliens to be related to Satan although that is an interesting idea. But if anything, sometimes I wonder if they were created by God as how I was brought up.. GOD created all.

The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Sasa @ Jun 24 2006, 03:24 PM) [snapback]1244400[/snapback]

I have proof that demons exist. Anyone is absolutely FREE to believe whatever they choose. I'm not asking that anyone take what I have to say on the subject as the "Gospel Truth" (no pun intended) just that they give it some thought.

Really, let me see your proof. Silly wabbit, trix are for kids.
Sasa
QUOTE(demonic presence @ Jun 24 2006, 01:27 PM) [snapback]1244403[/snapback]

ok, a few things wrong with this.
1. Not everyone believes in angels and demons so dont drag religion into this

It's not about religion, it's about the spirit realm and what exists within it.
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2. You said demons can manifest themselves in any form they please? such as aliens? hmmm if this is true then how come no "demon" i have encountered in my years of paranormal study has made themselves look like an alien if they want us to think they exist so bad?

You haven't been lucky enough to see one yet?
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3. Besides studying paranormal i have also studyed magick and a little demonology and i have summoned spirits before and none of them have said anything about aliens or UFO's

And..? Do you know who the spirits you summoned even were? Or if they would even tell you the truth if you asked? Did they speak to you or did you just see them? Was it a Satanic ritual...this "Summoning"? Demons and Converts are deceptive.
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4. How can you say, that throughout this infinite universe that there isnt at least one other planet that dooesnt have life on it?? There has go to be lifeforms on some other planet

You said not to bring religion into it...so I can't answer that question. But I think if you read my original post again you'll find the answer there.
Sasa
QUOTE(Cinders @ Jun 24 2006, 01:28 PM) [snapback]1244404[/snapback]

Sasa, have you or anyone you know closely and trust ever see a UFO or Alien?


Yes, my Dad and I saw what we thought were UFO-type lights in the sky once.
But that's all they were...lights in a formation.
skyeagle409
QUOTE(Sasa @ Jun 24 2006, 08:09 PM) [snapback]1244379[/snapback]

UFO = Unidentified Flying Object. To say that they are Extraterrestrial is an assumption not a fact.



NORAD has classfied UFOs into IFOs and they are known as "Fast Walkers" or "Slow Walkers" and saucer-shaped up to over 2000 feet in diameter.

Since we don't have such crafts means that those objects are not ours.
Sasa
QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Jun 24 2006, 01:28 PM) [snapback]1244405[/snapback]

Really, let me see your proof. Silly wabbit, trix are for kids.


Sorry but it's copyrighted material that I'm not giving out on a public message board. I'd love to share it with you, I really would...but you'll have to wait until the book comes out.
chaoszerg
I would also like to see the proof if you don't mind of course. And i understand that this is your opinion and that we don't have to or do have to take your word for it. grin2.gif


But i have to say to that there are many people who claim to speak with demons ghosts or even angels but none of them seem to have been told that aliens are actually demons. So i'm just wondering why would they only seem to tell you that and lie to everyone else unless of course they are having a laugh at your expense. And i too find it hard to believe that we would be the only planet in this entire universe to have intelligent life on it. Please don't be offended thumbsup.gif
skyeagle409
I must also add the we do have the data evidence to prove beyond any doubt those flying saucers are not ours.
gigglesmurf
well we no there are more planets than there are grains of sand in all of our beaches and deserts combined. now why would be the only ones on a planet outa all those kinda of a waste i would think there is life on other planets like bacteria and sorts i jus dont think we hav intelligent life on any of the planets in our solar system. if there was life out of our solar system it would take to long to travel to earth. even if you could fly very fast but the more u speed up the more ur mass increases i tihnk. mellow.gif but saying aliens dont exist and "angels and demons" do is stupid
gigglesmurf
well we no there are more planets than there are grains of sand in all of our beaches and deserts combined. now why would be the only ones on a planet outa all those kinda of a waste i would think there is life on other planets like bacteria and sorts i jus dont think we hav intelligent life on any of the planets in our solar system. if there was life out of our solar system it would take to long to travel to earth. even if you could fly very fast but the more u speed up the more ur mass increases i tihnk. mellow.gif but saying aliens dont exist and "angels and demons" do is stupid
gigglesmurf
and.
theres videos of ufos aliens and all this other stuff
and iv never seen a video of a demon or angel
chaoszerg
QUOTE(Sasa @ Jun 24 2006, 09:36 PM) [snapback]1244417[/snapback]

Sorry but it's copyrighted material that I'm not giving out on a public message board. I'd love to share it with you, I really would...but you'll have to wait until the book comes out.




Sorry but why is it that when someone claims to have some type of proof and then they are asked to show that proof that some type of reason pop's up that they cant show it. No offense to you but im thinking you may not have proof hmm.gif
demonic presence
QUOTE(chaoszerg @ Jun 24 2006, 08:38 PM) [snapback]1244420[/snapback]
But i have to say to that there are many people who claim to speak with demons ghosts or even angels but none of them seem to have been told that aliens are actually demons. So i'm just wondering why would they only seem to tell you that and lie to everyone else unless of course they are having a laugh at your expense. And i too find it hard to believe that we would be the only planet in this entire universe to have intelligent life on it. Please don't be offended thumbsup.gif


Yes i agree, how do you know that the demons didnt just lie to you about them being aliens?
And if you claim that angels told you remember you said demons can take any form so how do you know it wasnt a demon disgused as an angel?
demonic presence
QUOTE(chaoszerg @ Jun 24 2006, 08:40 PM) [snapback]1244428[/snapback]

Sorry but why is it that when someone claims to have some type of proof and then they are asked to show that proof that some type of reason pop's up that they cant show it. No offense to you but im thinking you may not have proof hmm.gif


I have to take sasa's side on the fact that demons do exist, i dont think angels do but demons do, in my opinion they are just powerful spirits, and i have proof but you would have to be here with me. i know you probably wont believe that since i cant post anything on here to prove it but next time i see one ill try to get a picture and post it here grin2.gif grin2.gif
Sasa
QUOTE(chaoszerg @ Jun 24 2006, 01:38 PM) [snapback]1244420[/snapback]

I would also like to see the proof if you don't mind of course. And i understand that this is your opinion and that we don't have to or do have to take your word for it. grin2.gif

But i have to say to that there are many people who claim to speak with demons ghosts or even angels but none of them seem to have been told that aliens are actually demons. So i'm just wondering why would they only seem to tell you that and lie to everyone else unless of course they are having a laugh at your expense. And i too find it hard to believe that we would be the only planet in this entire universe to have intelligent life on it. Please don't be offended thumbsup.gif


You don't have to take my word for it. And believe me, nobody's having a laugh at my expense other than the people who have responded to this post thusfar. (Not all, but most.)

I also understand it's hard to believe. Why me? I guess it had to be someone... alien.gif

QUOTE(gigglesmurf @ Jun 24 2006, 01:40 PM) [snapback]1244427[/snapback]

and iv never seen a video of a demon or angel


I have and others have as well.
Sasa
QUOTE(chaoszerg @ Jun 24 2006, 01:40 PM) [snapback]1244428[/snapback]

Sorry but why is it that when someone claims to have some type of proof and then they are asked to show that proof that some type of reason pop's up that they cant show it. No offense to you but im thinking you may not have proof hmm.gif


Well I do. But like I said...I'm not releasing it on a public message board before my book comes out. Sorry, but I have to protect my interests. It's titled: "Chosen: Spirit Realm Truths Revealed" and you'll be able to get it and see for yourself around August of this year.
Sasa
QUOTE(demonic presence @ Jun 24 2006, 01:42 PM) [snapback]1244430[/snapback]

And if you claim that angels told you remember you said demons can take any form so how do you know it wasnt a demon disgused as an angel?


That's a valid question. The answer is that it was proven to me. Don't ask how because I had to write a book to tell that story and I don't want to do it again here on this furom. original.gif And... you're certainly entitled to your opinion but Demons ARE Angels. One is just called a Demon because it was once an Angel that fell from grace. Their natural form is actually quite beautiful, just as all Angels are. They just manifest with hideous outer shells because they can.
chaoszerg
QUOTE(demonic presence @ Jun 24 2006, 09:45 PM) [snapback]1244431[/snapback]

I have to take sasa's side on the fact that demons do exist, i dont think angels do but demons do, in my opinion they are just powerful spirits, and i have proof but you would have to be here with me. i know you probably wont believe that since i cant post anything on here to prove it but next time i see one ill try to get a picture and post it here grin2.gif grin2.gif



Lol sorry. I mean i dont believe in demons and angels myself but i do keep a open mind and they may exist. And i guessed i would actually have to be there if you can summon them or ask them to show themselves but i was not just aiming that comment at her i was just really on about 90% of the people i have met of talked to seem to claim they have evidence and then have a excuse why they cant show it or if they do show evidence of their claim it has to be a really blurry photo of recording lol. If demons are real I would have to say i think they are having a mighty good laugh at you. Sorry.
Sasa
QUOTE(chaoszerg @ Jun 24 2006, 01:54 PM) [snapback]1244437[/snapback]

If demons are real I would have to say i think they are having a mighty good laugh at you. Sorry.


Oh it's not me they're having a laugh at - they hate me. It's the people who don't believe in them and who summon them and don't even realize what it is they're summoning then tell people they don't exist. That's exactly what they want. They also have a good laugh at all the Satanists too...because they're so far down on Satan's ladder of authority.
chaoszerg
QUOTE(Sasa @ Jun 24 2006, 09:57 PM) [snapback]1244443[/snapback]

Oh it's not me they're having a laugh at - they hate me. It's the people who don't believe in them and who summon them and don't even realize what it is they're summoning then tell people they don't exist. That's exactly what they want. They also have a good laugh at all the Satanists too...because they're so far down on Satan's ladder of authority.



so everyone else is wrong and you are right? I see that you have a type of problem with satanists also. hmm.gif
Sasa
QUOTE(chaoszerg @ Jun 24 2006, 02:02 PM) [snapback]1244449[/snapback]

so everyone else is wrong and you are right? I see that you have a type of problem with satanists also. hmm.gif


Did I say everyone else is wrong and I'm right? I don't think I did...but hey, it's a definite possibility. LMAO (That was a JOKE by the way) As far as Satanists go, I don't agree with their belief system as it's pretty much the complete opposite of mine, but I wouldn't say I have a "problem" with them, no. God gave us all free will. Satanists can be satanists if they choose.
chaoszerg
QUOTE(Sasa @ Jun 24 2006, 10:06 PM) [snapback]1244453[/snapback]

Did I say everyone else is wrong and I'm right? I don't think I did...but hey, it's a definite possibility. LMAO (That was a JOKE by the way) As far as Satanists go, I don't agree with their belief system as it's pretty much the complete opposite of mine, but I wouldn't say I have a "problem" with them, no. God gave us all free will. Satanists can be satanists if they choose.




sorry if that seemed like i was being hostile it tends to look that way when i dont put a happy smilie face next to my comment lol. So how come satanists are so far down satans ladder that the demons laugh at them.
Sasa
QUOTE(chaoszerg @ Jun 24 2006, 02:10 PM) [snapback]1244463[/snapback]

sorry if that seemed like i was being hostile it tends to look that way when i dont put a happy smilie face next to my comment lol. So how come satanists are so far down satans ladder that the demons laugh at them.


Because they don't understand how the Spirit Realm works. They laugh because some of them actually believe in the "conjuring" of demons with their mystical magical spells.

Now there are different types of Satanists, but take Anton LeVay for instance. While Satan does have human agents working for him, LeVay was a fake. He wasn't even a Prince of Satans. He was just a pawn.

Satan sought to produce a book that gave the impression that he did not exist except in peoples minds. LeVay was in it for the monetary gain. He was open about his belief that Satan did not exist in creation. However, LeVay is now tucked away in a dark realm where he can think about his misconception and the negative energy he helped to cultivate. Unless he gets a reprieve from the Creator, he is destined for the fate of a devil he never even believed existed. One of Satan's better misconceptions nurtured by this past deluded character.

This guru's followers worship the concept of evil. Though he denied Satan's existence in reality, he personally sought to be like what he thought Christianity conceived Satan as. He tried to look the part of what the symbolic Satan is characterized as. I can tell you, Satan NEVER liked him; he simply used him and his followers as pawns in a game of deception that still continues to this day.
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