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angrycrustacean
QUOTE(Kazuma @ Jun 28 2006, 08:19 PM) [snapback]1250573[/snapback]

Then why don't you just quit trying to make others doubt themselves and try it yourself? Then you'll have your own evidence and I won't have to waste time arguing with you. grin2.gif


I have.

I neither saw nor felt anything that could not be explained by conventional means.
Kazuma
Have you made a Psiball before?

What were your logical reasonings for those feelings?
angrycrustacean
QUOTE(Kazuma @ Jun 28 2006, 08:23 PM) [snapback]1250578[/snapback]

Have you made a Psiball before?

What were your logical reasonings for those feelings?


Blood rushes to the hands when the brain senses that they are about to be used. The extra bloodflow increases sensitivity to touch in the fingers, as well as more agile movement.

When you concentrate for so long on your hands, you trick your brain into thinking they are about to be used. Blood rushes in. Tingling ensues.
Kazuma
And the force that I feel pushing back when I push in? What about that?
missknowitall
i've done psiballs!! what are yours like?
noyritus
thumbsup.gif At all who would believe this video! rofl.gif


grin2.gif Life is GOOD! yes.gif

Kazuma
QUOTE(missknowitall @ Jun 28 2006, 09:35 PM) [snapback]1250597[/snapback]

i've done psiballs!! what are yours like?


There's a pulsing between my hands, an annoying tingling in my palms, and a force that pushes out whenever I try to push in.

Last time I made a psiball like this though, about half an hour later, my right palm felt like it was burned. It looked fine, but it felt warm and stung, like maybe whatever I had put my hand on wasn't really THAT hot, but still hot enough to burn me a little.

Anyway, ever since then, about two weeks ago, I haven't been able to make a psiball that pushes back. They still pulse and my hands still tingle, but there's no resistance when I push in.

Anyone find it funny that the psiball I was making that would end up burning me was actually a hot one? I was visualizing fire and programming it to be hot. grin2.gif
missknowitall
the reason u may not be able to make a psiball that pushes back is b/c you may have used to much energy!like once my hands were really hot and there was tingling so i used the energy to light up this broken lamp , but since then i cant do it anymore...kindof likerunning a marothon and being expected to be able to run again... w00t.gif
IceStorm
QUOTE(missknowitall @ Jun 29 2006, 08:19 AM) [snapback]1251012[/snapback]

the reason u may not be able to make a psiball that pushes back is b/c you may have used to much energy!like once my hands were really hot and there was tingling so i used the energy to light up this broken lamp , but since then i cant do it anymore...kindof likerunning a marothon and being expected to be able to run again... w00t.gif

wow you could light up a lamp... sad.gif the most iv been able to do is knock over a bottle...
Raptor
QUOTE(missknowitall @ Jun 29 2006, 03:19 PM) [snapback]1251012[/snapback]

i used the energy to light up this broken lamp


How did you do that?
IceStorm
QUOTE(Raptor X7 @ Jun 29 2006, 09:12 AM) [snapback]1251080[/snapback]

How did you do that?

she probably just programmed the psi ball to contain electricity and moved it over the lightbulb... but thats just my guess at what i would try first
missknowitall
QUOTE(IceStorm @ Jun 29 2006, 11:14 AM) [snapback]1251083[/snapback]

she probably just programmed the psi ball to contain electricity and moved it over the lightbulb... but thats just my guess at what i would try first


icestorm, u were right! laugh.gif well i was thinking electricity and the tingling got more intense then i put my hands up to the lamp near the bulb and it lit up everytime , then went out again when i moved away!

*practice makes perfect~* thumbsup.gif
IceStorm
QUOTE(missknowitall @ Jun 29 2006, 09:58 AM) [snapback]1251131[/snapback]

icestorm, u were right! laugh.gif well i was thinking electricity and the tingling got more intense then i put my hands up to the lamp near the bulb and it lit up everytime , then went out again when i moved away!

*practice makes perfect~* thumbsup.gif

wow, i was guessing based on other things that i have tried, but anyways i think that what you should try next is instead of putting ur hands next to the lamp to turn it on, do it from a distance, when you feel the tingling in your hands stand a good 7 feet away from the lamp and "throw" the psi ball into it. by the way, how long does it usualy to take you to create that strong of a psi ball?
angrycrustacean
Do you have the faintest idea how lightbulbs work?

Incandescent lightbulbs work by passing current through a very thing coil of tungsten, called the filament. The filament becomes red hot and glows. This is also why incandescent lightbulbs produce heat (more heat, actually, than light).

When a lightbulb burns out, it is because the filament has broken, possibly due to a number of causes. If this lamp was broken, then there is just no way that any electrical field applied to it, paranormally or otherwise, could light it. no.gif
missknowitall
o sorry im not a wiz on light bubls no.gif
well it takes lke half an hour.....anyway i cant explain what happened, but it did, so thats whatcounts! w00t.gif
IceStorm
QUOTE(angrycrustacean @ Jun 29 2006, 10:04 AM) [snapback]1251138[/snapback]

Do you have the faintest idea how lightbulbs work?

Incandescent lightbulbs work by passing current through a very thing coil of tungsten, called the filament. The filament becomes red hot and glows. This is also why incandescent lightbulbs produce heat (more heat, actually, than light).

When a lightbulb burns out, it is because the filament has broken, possibly due to a number of causes. If this lamp was broken, then there is just no way that any electrical field applied to it, paranormally or otherwise, could light it. no.gif

well maybe the light wasnt broken, maybe it was, im just going by what she said and nothing else.
kariudo115
QUOTE(missknowitall @ Jun 29 2006, 09:19 AM) [snapback]1251012[/snapback]

the reason u may not be able to make a psiball that pushes back is b/c you may have used to much energy!like once my hands were really hot and there was tingling so i used the energy to light up this broken lamp , but since then i cant do it anymore...kindof likerunning a marothon and being expected to be able to run again... w00t.gif

this is because you people don't do enough basic energy work

your energy body is much like your physical body- it requires exercise
the master energy circuit is called the kundalini circuit
then
in your energy body there are three main energy storage centers
the sub-navel
sub-heart
and sub-brow
then
there are the 7 primary centers the chakras
then there are the secondary centers, the minor chakras
and then there are the energy exchange ports- where you release and draw in energy from your surroundings

now lets say the average person consumes 100 units of psychic energy a day
they discover all this stuff and begin practicing with psi-balls
even now their energy requirements are at 200 units a day
so now they have a net energy of -100 units
the next day they take in another 100 units putting them at 0, but because their NORMAL requirement is 100 units they drop to -100 at the end of the day

the next day they try to make another psi-ball, but they cant do it, because they don't have enough psycic energy units

now another average person that consumes 100 units of energy a day finds this stuff
but they start out by running energy throuought their whole body, practices moving energy- and therefore opens their psychic "veins", allowing more energy flow. their energy exchange ports also open up due to the stimulation
this person practices this for a day, and their consumption goes up to 200, putting them at -100
the next day they take in 300 units, because they conditioned their energy body to work energy more efficiently, now their energy is at 200 units
another day goes by, and even a week, putting their net total around 700 units. they decide to make a psi-ball
this psi-ball is about 5 times better than the first persons, but takes about 5 times more energy- it takes 500 units of psycic energy, leaving the person at 200 units. they feel drained of energy, but some is still there. the next day they get up, and practice running energy through their body, so their daily intake is 400 units...........

you see how conditioning your energy body makes you more able to use its energy?
conditioning your energy body is invaluable


missknowitall
QUOTE(IceStorm @ Jun 29 2006, 12:08 PM) [snapback]1251145[/snapback]

well maybe the light wasnt broken, maybe it was, im just going by what she said and nothing else.


well either way, the lamp was broken and nows its fixed...i guess.. w00t.gif
IceStorm
QUOTE(missknowitall @ Jun 29 2006, 10:57 AM) [snapback]1251219[/snapback]

well either way, the lamp was broken and nows its fixed...i guess.. w00t.gif

lol good enough...
Raptor
How is it possible that the psiball full of electricity, generated an electric current which began running through a system that was blocked off, surely any wires should have been insulated? How did it have the correct voltage required? Is it possible for a current to bypass Earth?
ImOne
QUOTE(Raptor X7 @ Jun 29 2006, 11:08 AM) [snapback]1251296[/snapback]

How is it possible ...

If we knew that it wouldn't be a phenomenon now would it.
Kazuma
QUOTE(ImOne @ Jun 29 2006, 01:26 PM) [snapback]1251312[/snapback]

If we knew that it wouldn't be a phenomenon now would it.


Haha, it would ruin the surprise! grin2.gif
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Kazuma @ Jun 27 2006, 11:30 PM) [snapback]1249321[/snapback]

I read it was a Bible, sorry sue me.

I won't put myself up for testing, it's a waste of my time.
Skeptics piss me off when they say "it's impossble" and sh** like that. Why can't they be intelligent and just say "I don't believe it's possible."? angry.gif

Because we are smart and want to tick you off.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Kazuma @ Jun 28 2006, 09:30 PM) [snapback]1250588[/snapback]

And the force that I feel pushing back when I push in? What about that?

Thats called a bunch of nothing.
Raptor
QUOTE
I won't put myself up for testing, it's a waste of my time.


No, it's a waste of time coming online and spending hours trying to convince people this stuff is real with such weak claims. If you really have powers, demonstrate them to a professional who will be able to verify it once and for all.

I don't understand why there are so many thousands of 'psychics', and every single one has a poor excuse to not demonstrate their abilities in any meaningful way.
Kazuma
QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Jun 29 2006, 04:41 PM) [snapback]1251568[/snapback]

Because we are smart and want to tick you off.


No, you're just a jerk. grin2.gif
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Kazuma @ Jun 29 2006, 05:04 PM) [snapback]1251614[/snapback]

No, you're just a jerk. grin2.gif

Now don't get upset. We just get tired of kids claiming powers and not wanting to share.lol thumbsup.gif
Kazuma
QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Jun 29 2006, 05:05 PM) [snapback]1251617[/snapback]

Now don't get upset. We just get tired of kids claiming powers and not wanting to share.lol thumbsup.gif


Well we can't share. Skeptics say anything they can to try to prove it false, even dumb crap like "there's a tiny motor underneath it making it spin". grin2.gif
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Kazuma @ Jun 29 2006, 05:11 PM) [snapback]1251624[/snapback]

Well we can't share. Skeptics say anything they can to try to prove it false, even dumb crap like "there's a tiny motor underneath it making it spin". grin2.gif

Well, do you expect us to believe. If you were in our positions would you believe. I doubt it. It strikes me as unbelievable that all powers can never be show by their possessors for one reason or another.
Raptor
QUOTE(Kazuma @ Jun 29 2006, 11:11 PM) [snapback]1251624[/snapback]

Well we can't share. Skeptics say anything they can to try to prove it false, even dumb crap like "there's a tiny motor underneath it making it spin". grin2.gif


Certain people on this forum claim to be able to deny the laws of physics and thermodynamics, I don't think that places any of them in the position to say what the skeptics suggest is 'dumb crap'.

Just my opinion. innocent.gif
missknowitall
well for the skeptivc, u want us to get a camera, perform our "supposed" powers and sow them to you? just a question w00t.gif
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(missknowitall @ Jun 29 2006, 06:58 PM) [snapback]1251727[/snapback]

well for the skeptivc, u want us to get a camera, perform our "supposed" powers and sow them to you? just a question w00t.gif

Since most of those claiming power are kids. Go to your science teacher when school starts back and have him set up some experiments with your "supposed power."
Raptor
I would have said yes, but after seeing so many obviously faked videos, I don't see the point. I just don't understand why people say that they have these 'powers', and then when it comes to actually proving it, they make no attempt to.
missknowitall
we already tried that with our teacher and got sent to the conselors office! blush.gif
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(missknowitall @ Jun 29 2006, 07:06 PM) [snapback]1251744[/snapback]

we already tried that with our teacher and got sent to the conselors office! blush.gif

I find that hard to beleive if you have a true power. My teachers back in school would have been doing back flips if I had a power.
ImOne
QUOTE(Raptor X7 @ Jun 29 2006, 05:03 PM) [snapback]1251736[/snapback]

I would have said yes, but after seeing so many obviously faked videos, I don't see the point. I just don't understand why people say that they have these 'powers', and then when it comes to actually proving it, they make no attempt to.

Can you provide links or something to these "obviously faked videos" you are using as evidence? Should be easy if there are "so many" like you say.
missknowitall
why do u want to look the videos if u say they're fake? hmm.gif
ImOne
QUOTE(missknowitall @ Jun 29 2006, 05:23 PM) [snapback]1251771[/snapback]

why do u want to look the videos if u say they're fake? hmm.gif

I didn't say they are fake. I have seen quite a few and they appear real. Of course they are just videos which is very weak evidence when it's made by some anonymous person.

What I'm asking for is evidence that there are "so many obviously faked videos" to back up that claim. I think Raptor X7 is asserting a claim with no basis in fact.

This is a challenge.
IceStorm
QUOTE(ImOne @ Jun 29 2006, 07:34 PM) [snapback]1251794[/snapback]

I didn't say they are fake. I have seen quite a few and they appear real. Of course they are just videos which is very weak evidence when it's made by some anonymous person.

What I'm asking for is evidence that there are "so many obviously faked videos" to back up that claim. I think Raptor X7 is asserting a claim with no basis in fact.

This is a challenge.

once again, ImOne has made a good point, i have posted plenty of videos that have all been turned away by skeptics becuase "theres a hidden magnet" or "theres an invisible string that is moving it" stupid excuses like that.
Megalomania
QUOTE(ImOne @ Jun 30 2006, 10:18 AM) [snapback]1251764[/snapback]

Can you provide links or something to these "obviously faked videos" you are using as evidence? Should be easy if there are "so many" like you say.

Search for 'psi-wheel' on a popular video site.
They've been debunked thouroughly. So yeah. go for it. thumbsup.gif
angrycrustacean
QUOTE(ImOne @ Jun 29 2006, 06:18 PM) [snapback]1251764[/snapback]

Can you provide links or something to these "obviously faked videos" you are using as evidence? Should be easy if there are "so many" like you say.


user posted image
Click to view the video.
Kazuma
Oh my god!

How the hell did you do that?

Have you been practicing telekinesis for years or something?! ohmy.gif
angrycrustacean
QUOTE(Kazuma @ Jun 30 2006, 12:15 AM) [snapback]1252129[/snapback]

Oh my god!

How the hell did you do that?

Have you been practicing telekinesis for years or something?! ohmy.gif


I was born with it. Don't be envious, you'll get there some day too. original.gif
ImOne
You can tell that wire was added later just to make it look like it was a fake when it really isn't. Anybody could do that in 3 seconds.
Kibbles
Ugh. The video on my PC is crap.

I'm new here. What's a Psi Wheel and where do you get one?
Kazuma
QUOTE(Kibbles @ Jun 30 2006, 02:03 AM) [snapback]1252162[/snapback]

What's a Psi Wheel and where do you get one?


A paper on a tack that you spin with telekinesis. An exercise device, in other words.

http://www.psipog.net/show.php?id=2

That'll show you how to make one.
Kibbles
QUOTE(Kazuma @ Jun 30 2006, 07:57 AM) [snapback]1252189[/snapback]

A paper on a tack that you spin with telekinesis. An exercise device, in other words.

http://www.psipog.net/show.php?id=2http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/style_images/8/folder_rte_images/numbered_list.gif
Insert List

That'll show you how to make one.


Oh, thanks. Looks like fun. About how fast would you say it was moving in the video?
(it won't load on my PC)
Kazuma
Why video? There was no video in the link I gave you. huh.gif
Bio-Mage
Try origami...its so much more rewarding than psi wheels original.gif
Kibbles
QUOTE(Bio-Mage @ Jun 30 2006, 08:58 AM) [snapback]1252236[/snapback]

Try origami...its so much more rewarding than psi wheels original.gif


Sorry. Was referring to the original poster's video. (Fast spinning psi wheel I gather) The one everyone's arguing over.
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