There's a kid in our neighborhood who shoots cats. I've seen him do it. Tomorrow, my mom, two Idaho Humane Society officers, a couple people from Just Strays (A local cat shelter I work at sometimes), two eyewitnesses, and myself are going over to their house. I need information on serial killers and killing animals as children STAT, people!
This boy killed my cat. My cat is the most precious thing to me. I raised him from a baby to now. This kid needs to be stopped.
I know about Jeffery Dahmer, and some others, but I need some good websites on the subject and other serial killers who have done this before tomorrow. Currently, it is 9 PM here. We're heading out at 8:30 tomorrow morning.
Please help guys, he killed my baby. I don't want anyone else to have this happen to them.

the best thing you can probably do is contact a local ASPCA .. I wish you the best of luck...I've got cats of my own and I pity the poor fool that ever tries to hurt them.

I'm sorry you have to be going through this.

What does he shoot them with?

Is it an actual gun, or some kind of pellet gun?

Either way, I think an officer of the law present will only do good.

Why exactly do you need sites on the subject?

I know you must want to know as much as possible, but how exactly will it help?

firstly this person will be ultimately punished for the true atrocity he commits undoubtedly.

Aside from the peace of mind in knowing that, punishing the person to the extent of the law will be difficult unless you have concrete evidence or proof of him commiting the crime. Otherwise its just heresay. good luck.

the essence of your unfairly ended felion and the others will by certain bring justice to this riteous ones being.

Plus you can always black mask the kid and break his knees if u cant prosecute him and only if you know for damn sure it was him who did it.

Well, let's hope he just stopped at cats. Really sick guy! Good luck blue fish! www.crimelibrary.com is a good site, you will get all the info on all kinds of serial killers there. I don't know how it can help you at this moment though.

why do you need to know about serial killers when he is a cat-killer?

if the dude was shooting at my cat,i'd go up to his house,if he was the one who answered,grab him by his collar,throw him on the ground,stand over him,and have good ol time kicking his ass

Although I don't know what good it will do without police or charges filed (can the humane society people do that?)....

http://cats.about.com/library/weekly/aa010600e.htm

http://www.animalsvoice.com/PAGES/writes/e..._torturing.html

There's also a whole poop-load of 'scholarly' articles if you search google for 'violence against animals leads to violence against humans.'

Just some -- http://www.mnmed.org/publications/MnMed1999/August/Robin.cfm

http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&se=g...mp;d=5000337912

http://jsw.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/3/2/161

Well... way past the time you were going.

What happened?

Yep, he uses a real gun. I can't remember what type. And I want to point out that most killers start out with animals so I can get this kid in a juvenille detention facility or at least get him some mental help. I want to know as much as what he might end up doing as possible to inform the proper authoraties about this and make them take care of this.

Make a mechanical cat, and have it jump on his face.
Hopfully he'll try to shoot it, and hit himself instead

this person killed your cat and you think the best way to deal with this is to go there with some officials and confront him??
your a decent human and respectable too i can tell.
but people like this always rely on decent folk for their pray!
he wont shoot the neighbourhood psychos cat thats too risky, much safer to kill yours.
time to do him wrong.
...dont aproach his place just buy some cs spray and a claw hammer get your stockings and pull it over your head...have a good time (dont tell anyone either)
also..(take a look at henry lee lucas..sick..sick..sick)

Blue Fish,

I'm terribly sorry about your cat. It's clear that you want justice and also therapy for the boy committing these crimes. That's highly admirable. These posts I'm seeing with twisted themes of revenge can't be of much comfort to you as you mourn.

The officers with the Humane Society are certainly deputized, and if they abide by your wishes to confront the perpetrator, a safe environment will be secured in advance. I assume you want not only to make your loss real to him, but also search for a sign of humanity. It's there, but buried rather deep if he's killing animals without cause.

Best wishes,
Brian

Because people who harm animals when they're young can move on to harming humans when they're older.

Blue fish, look at these:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1670025.stm

http://usfnews.usf.edu/page.cfm?link=article&aid=358

http://www.pet-abuse.com/pages/abuse_connection.php

http://www.animalsvoice.com/PAGES/writes/e...ndour_link.html

-Double post-

I'm sorry,if anyone hurt my cat i would kill them.How old is this boy,by the way?

Yes this is true. How many countless killers were cruel to animals or other kids when they were young. I would go to the authorities,his parents,and your children and family services agency. I would talk til I got satisfaction.

The reason is alot of phsycologist think that serial killers start at a young age killing animals and being cruel

how about this take a photo of this tosser and print up some posters letting everyone know whos living next door to them..if you dont wanna be caught doing that, go get the electoral register from the library and post it to the whole street itll cost a few quid but ...
its possible youll need to protect your prints in case he tries to sue or some other sh** but the law isnt always on the victims side so just use caution.
sorry if my advice always seems so radical but i think you should fight fire with fire.
and might i suggest you get another kitten straight away. itll make u feel better
lets be careful out there

Ok , first and foremost , just because a troubled kid is shooting cats does not mean he will be the next Jeffry Dahmer...Personally I do not know why younare wasting time here.I would have allready called the police and filed statements , than since he is a juvenille , I would have found another willing juvenille to pay off to formally kick this kids a@@...And , before I went to any forum I would have been banging on that door as soon as I found out...I am sorry to hear about your cat....Call the police , you can stop him from killing other cats , but forget the serial killer thing...Not much you can do about that.

I still suggest finding a kid around neighborhood needing a few bucks

Good Thinking Conspiracysrus

Awsome reply.... I agree you should do this. You should also include on the poster a cute picture of your cat- That will make more people sympathetic to cats, knowing that the cute little cat in the picture is now in kitty heaven because of this psycho kid.

i agree sick man!!!! good luck and also bone_collector like the icon thingy great!

most serial killers like,dauhmer,the hillside strangler,gary ridgeway,and
others did torture and kill animals.but there are a lot like ted bundy,nazi dr josef mengele,and john gacy who never did!if you were to videotape the guy doing the shooting,the cops would take his ass to jail just to scare the hell out of him!

Definitely report him - there is a link between cruelty to animals and violent behaviour later as everyone has suggested here. I agree about making it public too, and getting another cat.

I am sorry about your loss, and hope you feel OK - as a fellow cat lover I'd go moggy if someone shot my babies..

I think the current thought is that sociopaths are formed within the first year of their life.
I doubt any intervention except fear will work on them, no matter how young they are.
You cannot draw out compassion in a sociopath because none simply exists.

Exactly. In a sociopath it's pretty much hopeless.

I've known one, and one only, sociopath who managed to "reform." But he was dead in less than a year, in strange circumstances suggesting suicide. I think his past caught up with the "new" him.

Sociopaths cant reform because its a personality disorder.They dont think there is anything wrong with them and that its everyone else who is messed up. Also animal cruelty is more often than not associated with the starting of a young serial killer. so what you need to do is tell your dad that this guy took a shot at you so he will go kick the ever living snot of this punk.

The childhood developmental problems used to identify possibly incipient serial killers are supposed to be these three, NOT singly, but ALWAYS in combination:

1. Cruelty to animals;

2. Fire-starting (arson);

3. Bed-wetting (which of course affects many thousands of normal children also).

Please note, however, that only a very small number of children displaying all three of these conditions will actually grow up to be serial killers or murderers of any kind.

I have to agree and disagree. Individuals HAVE beaten "personalty disorders" but it is EXTREMELY rare.. As I said above, I've known only one individual able do so and the "reformation" KILLED him.



That's exactly true and why the condition is so nearly-impossible to treat let alone "cure."

Burn his house down with him in it. Preferably asleep. Case closed.

I believe the bed wetting only if it exceeds into late pre-teens to actual teens if not even adulthood. It's perfectly natural for a small child to wet the bed but as they get older it gets a tad odd and can be profiled.

I believe the bed-wetting has to occur at the same time as the animal torture and the fire-starting, or at least reasonably close in time.

But many adults (of both sexes) have urinary control problems and that certainly in no way makes them serial killers.

Because it has been scientifically proven that a lot of serial killers started off by torturing or killing pets and small animals.

The 3 indicators- arson, bedwetting beyond preschool years (without medical reason) and animal cruelty are known as the MacDonald Triad. They are signs of aPsychopath, not neccesarily one that will turn into a serial killer , but always unstable, with potential for violent behaviour, because they lack any sense of guilt or remorse. Psychopathy and Sociopathy are currently believed to be branches of Anti-Social Personality Disorder, but neither are actually considered officially a personality disorder on their own.


To clarify, lots of people suffer by afflictions classified as "personality disorders" and lead normal lives. The term "Personality Disorder" refers to a cluster of clinically defined disorders with varying symptoms and treatments. It's extremely ignorant to speak for all DSM recognised disorders as being impossible to overcome and rare to beat. Some are more difficult than others, and many people claim that Anti-Social Personalites are the most difficult because sufferer's are lacking in a basic sense of responsibility over their actions and thoughts, and are consistently dishonest- thus lacking help to due self-isolation and blame shifting over their faults. It's a complex thing to condense, but i really don't think it's very intelligent to generalise on these things, because it can be very dangerous.

What if a young person with a mental illness or any early indicators of a personality disorder were to read this and believe that they were incurable? It could really damage their sense of self worth, and is only perpetuating them further down the spiral. It's almost encouraging vioelnt behaviour to develop.
I believe that violent behaviour can be prevented, in young people who haven't yet "crossed the line" and comitted any serious acts of violence.

Shooting cats, however, is a pretty heartless act (I won't even write here the things i'd do if anyone hurt my little one) and should be dealt with by the law. Where i live there are quite serious punishments for those guilty of animal cruelty (although in my eyes nowhere near harsh enough..grrr).

In terms of the boy being a future "serial killer", it's possible he may go down that road, however shooting an animal dead, although abominable and loathsome, is lacking the element of torture and sadism often associated with a burgeoning violent personality.

lol an eye for an eye makes the whole world go blind conspiracysrus, i suggest that you just call the police right now and tell them, i have many cats, but there are dogs across the street, and we are so tense, one of our girls got a rip in her neck, a smallish rip, its healing nicely, but its spring you know what i mean. anyway, although revenge is a very radical solution, punishment isnt, get him in so much trouble he wont have time for cruelty, make him pay for his crime, no radical "ill kill u, u son of a #^(^$" stuff, but call the police, get him arrested, put him where he is safe as well as you.

I read about this and watched TV programs about it. Sometimes people begin hurting animals. Sometimes they'll just mutilate them; other times they'll kill them. I heard, however, that if not treated, it can lead to torchering and killing people. This boy is a very disturbed young man, and although you posted this back in june of 2006, there are other young people who are doing this. If you know who's been doing it, I would definitely contact the police and also ask them if a mental health professional should be contacted.

I'm really concerned too. Since I moved into the place where I'm living now, I've noticed several cats that have their tail cut off. At first it was one and I thought it was just a tail-less cat; but now I've noticed more and more. Some of them have different lengths of their tail cut off, and these are fully grown cats. I have my suspicions as to who is doing this, but do you think I should call the police even though I'm not sure who is doing this?

I am so sorry to hear that, what a horrible child! There was a little girl who flushed my hamster down the toilet alive. That kid does need to be stopped horrible child.

He's probably going to claim that he didn't do it. You might want to organize so that your moment of confrontation doesn't turn into a "no, I didn't"/"yes, you did" session. Do you have any of the bullets?

WRITE EVERYTHING DOWN AHEAD OF TIME. If the police start a dossier on this creep, they will put everything you've written up in his folder. If you only complain verbally, your comments will be summarized in a police report and the record of his behavior will be much less damning. If I'm writing this too late, write your version of things down, take it to the police station, and ask them to file it.

Last Summer, just north of Cincinnati, Ohio, an unknown miscreant impaled a kitten with a broken broom handle.

A month ago, in the same neighborhood, a puppy was discovered boiled alive.

The same perpetrator is suspected in both atrocities.

The cops fear that he (?) may be working his (?) way up to people.

Do you have any physical evidence to show them?

I believe you have a serious mental problem. I'm more afraid of you (and people like you) who are willing to circumvent due process (and take the law into your own hands) - than I am of any 'miscreant' cat-killer. You - I believe are the sociopath - potentially bordering on psychopath.


It's obvious you have been hypnotized by your cat. This is not uncommon and represents a clinically recognized psychological disorder (known as feline catphosis.) It happens to weak-minded pet owners - the world over. A town in Italy recognized this aflliction (toward cat-worshipping) and decreed that on a particular day (of the year) cats were to be hurled off the local church steeple .. ostensibly to demonstrate that we (as humans) have not become a race of dull-eyed cat coddlers - catering to fat Morris's every whim.

Cat's have wiped out many exotic species of birds (most notably in Australia.) They carry disease as well .. Cat Diseases 4 You.

I venture to suggest cats as alien (not of this world.) The un-earthly odour of cat poop adds weight to this hypothesis. Nothing quite as repugnant as cattus excretus. In the 'big picture' cats are not an endangered species although they certainly endanger other species (and evidently so do their owners) .. Cats are effectively disposable ... independent of how deeply afflicted by feline catphosis - you may be. I suggest you get a grip and 'snap out of it.'

I'd kill/seriously harm anyone who hurt/killed my cat, I love my cat like, more than anything. Love is love.

Was that humor or did a cat kill a bear back in Nam, a bear that happened to be your father.

Come on people, some of you have big problems, even more than the child who killed the cat.
If you're going to kill someone because they hurt/killed your cat, you need to be locked up.
Sure, the person deserves to be punished, but murdered?
I could understand if he killed your parents, or your wife...but your cat?
I love animals, and I'm against cruelty.
But geez, if you want to kill someone because they hurt one of your pet, you need some serious help.

No, no one who would avenge a cat needs serious help. LOVE IS LOVE~ k.

This is not a poorly timed car reversal or freak blunt object accident.
The intent to end a life out unfettered pleasure is far too many shades worse than the intent to end a life due to a sudden loss.
As most likely stated, for the average sociopath with sadistic inclinations, the gap between animal to human is less defined than flatulence in a stadium. Is it truly so wrong to kill off a weed before it attempts to diminish our numbers, chance sides with the homicide victim than the murderer in terms social enrichment.

And if it's acceptable for you and animal flayers hold animals down a peg, why is it so wrong for others to hold them on level or higher?
Don't you be trippin and be shizzlein on OPM, other peeps mores, yo!

Is killing love too?

Nope, but I love my cat a ton, and if some bastard is going to hurt him or take him away from me, I will hurt them. They didn't care if they hurt me or my cat after all. He is my son.

It has been documented that some serial and mass killers abused/tortured animals as children, but most where also abused as children themselfs( hence the animal cruilty) and/or spent time in institutions or reform school.
Isolated cases of animal abuse will not result in a serial killer, but may be a sign of other problem in the childs home life. (abuse etc).
Or he could just be a little sh*t

I've never heard of a reasonably normal child indulging in sadism to express difficulties at home. Usually it's drug abuse or creating an alternate "family" by joining a gang or pairing up with a nutcase sexual partner. Maybe an extremely young child could innocently pull the legs off a salamander to see what would happen, but this guy is not so young.

Animal torturers are a threat to society and need to be supervised. I don't care if the person in question had a rotten home life. What if he did have a rotten home life? Does that shift the blame over to the parents? What if they had bad childhoods as well? Does that shift the blame to the grandparents? If you keep going with this, you could shift the blame straight back to Adam and Eve and not bother enforcing the law at all.