Just got back from seeing it. It was crazy. Lot of gore, blood, and pain. lot of action. well, tell me what all of you thought about it.
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Full Version: The Texas Chainsaw Massacre
Ive seen the original years ago and thought it was pretty gorey back then, but I liked it.(Im a horror nut) And concidering it was based on actual events, makes you wonder whats really going on out there in the world.
Im planning on seeing this new version, just to see how it stands up to the original.
Im planning on seeing this new version, just to see how it stands up to the original.
i just finished watchin it myself. pretty freakin scary. they show actual footage of it
now, does anyone have links to a website that has the true story, pictures, and wut city it was in. i know it was in travis county, but wut city. i live an hour away from that county!
or does anyone know the real story, is the guys name really thomas hewitt.
thanx guys,
now, does anyone have links to a website that has the true story, pictures, and wut city it was in. i know it was in travis county, but wut city. i live an hour away from that county!
or does anyone know the real story, is the guys name really thomas hewitt.
thanx guys,
ok, the "footage" is not real. i was looking it up and found this:
As Gunnar Hansen, the actor who portrayed Leatherface, notes in his Texas Chainsaw Massacre FAQ:
Here's what Tobe (director) and Kim (writer) told me themselves one night during the filming. They had heard of Ed Gein, the man in Plainfield, Wisconsin, who was arrested in the late 1950s for killing his neighbor and on whom the movie Psycho was based. So when they set out to write this movie, they decided to have a family of killers who had some of the characteristics of Gein: the skin masks, the furniture made from bones, the possibility of cannibalism. But that's all. The story itself is entirely made up. So, sorry folks. There never was a massacre in Texas on which this was based. No chainsaw either. And, in spite of those of you who have told me you remember when it happened, it really didn't happen. Really. Believe me. This is an interesting phenomenon. I've also had people tell me that they knew the original Leatherface, that they had been guards at the state prison in Huntsville, Texas, where he was a prisoner. Maybe they knew somebody who dreamed of being Leatherface. It is, I suppose, something to aspire to.
so i dont think this "massacre" happen.
As Gunnar Hansen, the actor who portrayed Leatherface, notes in his Texas Chainsaw Massacre FAQ:
Here's what Tobe (director) and Kim (writer) told me themselves one night during the filming. They had heard of Ed Gein, the man in Plainfield, Wisconsin, who was arrested in the late 1950s for killing his neighbor and on whom the movie Psycho was based. So when they set out to write this movie, they decided to have a family of killers who had some of the characteristics of Gein: the skin masks, the furniture made from bones, the possibility of cannibalism. But that's all. The story itself is entirely made up. So, sorry folks. There never was a massacre in Texas on which this was based. No chainsaw either. And, in spite of those of you who have told me you remember when it happened, it really didn't happen. Really. Believe me. This is an interesting phenomenon. I've also had people tell me that they knew the original Leatherface, that they had been guards at the state prison in Huntsville, Texas, where he was a prisoner. Maybe they knew somebody who dreamed of being Leatherface. It is, I suppose, something to aspire to.
so i dont think this "massacre" happen.
Just to end up an argument, at the beginning of the new TCM movie, it will say "this movie is based on true accounts. all charcters names......." yada yada yada, you get the point now!
Unfortunately... nothing about what happened there in texas is true except for how EdGein used do things to his victims is played out by the actors... just like in silence of the lambs, and psycho (both based on ed)
http://www.snopes.com/movies/films/chainsaw.asp
http://www.snopes.com/movies/films/chainsaw.asp
ok, news flash,
so i live in TX. i was at work and i asked one the my co-workers about it. she said she did a report on it in high school and found it to be true. she found newpapers clippings and what not. it took place in fayette, tx.
now thats creepy. well, now im goin to look up more stuff. peace out guys
so i live in TX. i was at work and i asked one the my co-workers about it. she said she did a report on it in high school and found it to be true. she found newpapers clippings and what not. it took place in fayette, tx.
now thats creepy. well, now im goin to look up more stuff. peace out guys
I haven't seen the new version yet but looking forward to it 
i have looked in all the crime libraries i can find and all come up with nothing. I read about how the director came up with the movie. it was from the same guy the movie Psycho was made to represent. http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers...ein/bill_1.html
His name was Eddie Gein. the director took the idea of making skins, then decided that a chainsaw was good and wanted it to be about a family of people like this. To my knowledge, through searching high and low, i cant find anything that says that this was a real occurrance. you would think that a crime library would have that on file since it was the murder of 5 people in such a brutal way. I am lead to beleive that is is not true, but in fact just a gimic to get people out to the theator.
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His name was Eddie Gein. the director took the idea of making skins, then decided that a chainsaw was good and wanted it to be about a family of people like this. To my knowledge, through searching high and low, i cant find anything that says that this was a real occurrance. you would think that a crime library would have that on file since it was the murder of 5 people in such a brutal way. I am lead to beleive that is is not true, but in fact just a gimic to get people out to the theator.
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Here's what I know...there's only one case in Texas close the the Texas Chainsaw Massacre and it actually happened after the movie. Here's the story if interested.
AMERICA asked yesterday for the extradition of a gun enthusiast who moved to Britain in 1991 after he had been freed from death row in Texas.
Prosecutors want to retry Robert Elmer Kleasen, 69, over the shooting of two Mormon missionaries whose bodies he is said to have dismembered with a bandsaw and disposed of as chicken feed.
Kleasen was freed by US authorities after a court ruled that evidence at his original trial in 1974 was inadmissible because of a faulty search warrant. He had served two years on death row.
However, a hearing at Bow Street Magistrates’ Court, in Central London, was told yesterday that advances in DNA analysis and other forensic science techniques had established that there was a 99.9 per cent probability that he was the killer.
Kleasen had made up grandiose stories to cover up his bizarre past in America. He had come to Britain in 1991 to marry the British woman who was his penfriend while he awaited execution.
He lied to obtain gun certificates and built up a huge arsenal of weapons at his home in Barton, North Lincolnshire, before the police became suspicious and raided the house.
False claims by Kleasen that he had been a CIA agent for 17 years, had flown U2 spy planes and had won the Congressional Medal of Honour for shooting down aircraft in the Korean War had earned him the nickname Odd Bob among fellow gun club members. He also claimed that he had been a member of the Nazi youth movement and that Goebbels was his uncle.
His genuine past was stranger than fiction. In 1950 he opened fire in a New York hospital emergency room because he was not being treated promptly. In 1964 he was forced to resign as a sheriff’s jailer after making threats and in 1971, a year after graduating with a degree in sociology, he shot off a man’s toe for firing a gun at his mother’s farm.
When police raided his home, they found 126 rifles and shotguns, four submachineguns, 32 handguns, 42,000 rounds of ammunition, several hand grenades and about 100lb of gunpowder.
He fled to Denmark where he was jailed for battering a young Mormon woman. He then he went to Lebanon, where he tried to join the Palestine Liberation Army.
After returning to America in 1973 he joined the Mormons and was convicted of murder the following year.
James Lewis, QC, representing the American Government, told yesterday’s hearing that the bandsaw was used to cut up Gary Darley, 20, and Mark Fischer, 19. Blood, hair and human tissue were discovered on the saw in a taxidermist’s workshop where Kleasen worked as a cleaner.
The two men disappeared after ignoring advice from their church elders not to accept an invitation to eat venison with Kleason at his trailer home outside Austin, Texas, in October 1974. The killings were said to have shocking similarities to the horror film The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, which was released in the same year.
While the missionaries’ bodies were never discovered, their nametags and a prayer book with bullet holes through them were found.
Mr Lewis said that a pair of Kleasen’s bloodstained trousers were found in a bin near his trailer and DNA tests showed “there is a 99.9997 per cent probability that the blood belonged to Gary Darley”.
After the scientific breakthrough new warrants for Kleasen’s arrest were lodged.
Yesterday the wheelchair-bound Kleasen, who wore a maroon sweatshirt and spectacles, interrupted the proceedings and said, in a strong Texan accent: “How can you keep lying all the time, and say that’s evidence.”
Mr Lewis said that police discovered the men’s Seiko and Voumard watches and apartment and car keys in the trailer. Hair discovered on the band saw matched locks of hair kept by Mr Darley’s family. Police also discovered a .22 calibre rifle in Kleasen’s car.
Mr Lewis said that Kleasen held a grudge towards the church because he felt it had “neglected him when he was incarcerated earlier for poaching a buffalo from an exotic game ranch”.
He added: “Human tissue and hair were found on the blade of the saw and forensic experts found that it matched Mr Fischer and Mr Darley. Mr Kleasen had the motive and the opportunities for the crime and he gave inconsistent accounts to police when questioned about his actions.”
Kleasen, who moved to Britain in 1991 and married the widow of a senior Humberside policeman who had become his penfriend, was sentenced in June 2000 by Grimsby Crown Court to three years in jail for illegal possession of firearms.
At that hearing Judge Michael Heath recommended Kleasen for deportation, saying that he had no doubt that he would reoffend if he remained in Britain.
Police began investigating Kleason after his wife, Marie Longley, 68, tipped them off about a collection of weapons at the couple’s home in Barton, Lincolnshire.
He was said to have lied to the Humberside force over a series of previous convictions in America so that he could get a shotgun certificate in 1991, a firearms licence the next year and a dealer’s permit in 1997.
Kleasen built up such a strong relationship with the force’s firearms unit, advising them on weapons, that he was on their Christmas card list. When officers raided his home in April 1999 they found 40 weapons, including a Thompson sub-machinegun, two pistols and a shotgun, and 264 rounds of ammunition.
A British court would not extradite a defendant to face the death sentence, but Mr Lewis said that the state of Texas had promised that Kleasen, if found guilty in America, would not be sentenced to death. Kleasen has always denied the charges.
Professor Speedy Rice, from Gonzaga University, in Spokane, Washington, told the court that Texas, a state renowned for its severe stance on capital punishment, might not keep its promise. He said: “Texas has always been very aggressive about their death penalty. They have the largest number of executions in the US.
“The problem is the politics of the death penalty. If the prosecutor decides to go ahead with the death penalty there’s really no way to enforce the promise made here.”
Kleasen was remanded in custody and the case was adjourned until May 14.
Here's what I know...there's only one case in Texas close the the Texas Chainsaw Massacre and it actually happened after the movie. Here's the story if interested.
AMERICA asked yesterday for the extradition of a gun enthusiast who moved to Britain in 1991 after he had been freed from death row in Texas.
Prosecutors want to retry Robert Elmer Kleasen, 69, over the shooting of two Mormon missionaries whose bodies he is said to have dismembered with a bandsaw and disposed of as chicken feed.
Kleasen was freed by US authorities after a court ruled that evidence at his original trial in 1974 was inadmissible because of a faulty search warrant. He had served two years on death row.
However, a hearing at Bow Street Magistrates’ Court, in Central London, was told yesterday that advances in DNA analysis and other forensic science techniques had established that there was a 99.9 per cent probability that he was the killer.
Kleasen had made up grandiose stories to cover up his bizarre past in America. He had come to Britain in 1991 to marry the British woman who was his penfriend while he awaited execution.
He lied to obtain gun certificates and built up a huge arsenal of weapons at his home in Barton, North Lincolnshire, before the police became suspicious and raided the house.
False claims by Kleasen that he had been a CIA agent for 17 years, had flown U2 spy planes and had won the Congressional Medal of Honour for shooting down aircraft in the Korean War had earned him the nickname Odd Bob among fellow gun club members. He also claimed that he had been a member of the Nazi youth movement and that Goebbels was his uncle.
His genuine past was stranger than fiction. In 1950 he opened fire in a New York hospital emergency room because he was not being treated promptly. In 1964 he was forced to resign as a sheriff’s jailer after making threats and in 1971, a year after graduating with a degree in sociology, he shot off a man’s toe for firing a gun at his mother’s farm.
When police raided his home, they found 126 rifles and shotguns, four submachineguns, 32 handguns, 42,000 rounds of ammunition, several hand grenades and about 100lb of gunpowder.
He fled to Denmark where he was jailed for battering a young Mormon woman. He then he went to Lebanon, where he tried to join the Palestine Liberation Army.
After returning to America in 1973 he joined the Mormons and was convicted of murder the following year.
James Lewis, QC, representing the American Government, told yesterday’s hearing that the bandsaw was used to cut up Gary Darley, 20, and Mark Fischer, 19. Blood, hair and human tissue were discovered on the saw in a taxidermist’s workshop where Kleasen worked as a cleaner.
The two men disappeared after ignoring advice from their church elders not to accept an invitation to eat venison with Kleason at his trailer home outside Austin, Texas, in October 1974. The killings were said to have shocking similarities to the horror film The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, which was released in the same year.
While the missionaries’ bodies were never discovered, their nametags and a prayer book with bullet holes through them were found.
Mr Lewis said that a pair of Kleasen’s bloodstained trousers were found in a bin near his trailer and DNA tests showed “there is a 99.9997 per cent probability that the blood belonged to Gary Darley”.
After the scientific breakthrough new warrants for Kleasen’s arrest were lodged.
Yesterday the wheelchair-bound Kleasen, who wore a maroon sweatshirt and spectacles, interrupted the proceedings and said, in a strong Texan accent: “How can you keep lying all the time, and say that’s evidence.”
Mr Lewis said that police discovered the men’s Seiko and Voumard watches and apartment and car keys in the trailer. Hair discovered on the band saw matched locks of hair kept by Mr Darley’s family. Police also discovered a .22 calibre rifle in Kleasen’s car.
Mr Lewis said that Kleasen held a grudge towards the church because he felt it had “neglected him when he was incarcerated earlier for poaching a buffalo from an exotic game ranch”.
He added: “Human tissue and hair were found on the blade of the saw and forensic experts found that it matched Mr Fischer and Mr Darley. Mr Kleasen had the motive and the opportunities for the crime and he gave inconsistent accounts to police when questioned about his actions.”
Kleasen, who moved to Britain in 1991 and married the widow of a senior Humberside policeman who had become his penfriend, was sentenced in June 2000 by Grimsby Crown Court to three years in jail for illegal possession of firearms.
At that hearing Judge Michael Heath recommended Kleasen for deportation, saying that he had no doubt that he would reoffend if he remained in Britain.
Police began investigating Kleason after his wife, Marie Longley, 68, tipped them off about a collection of weapons at the couple’s home in Barton, Lincolnshire.
He was said to have lied to the Humberside force over a series of previous convictions in America so that he could get a shotgun certificate in 1991, a firearms licence the next year and a dealer’s permit in 1997.
Kleasen built up such a strong relationship with the force’s firearms unit, advising them on weapons, that he was on their Christmas card list. When officers raided his home in April 1999 they found 40 weapons, including a Thompson sub-machinegun, two pistols and a shotgun, and 264 rounds of ammunition.
A British court would not extradite a defendant to face the death sentence, but Mr Lewis said that the state of Texas had promised that Kleasen, if found guilty in America, would not be sentenced to death. Kleasen has always denied the charges.
Professor Speedy Rice, from Gonzaga University, in Spokane, Washington, told the court that Texas, a state renowned for its severe stance on capital punishment, might not keep its promise. He said: “Texas has always been very aggressive about their death penalty. They have the largest number of executions in the US.
“The problem is the politics of the death penalty. If the prosecutor decides to go ahead with the death penalty there’s really no way to enforce the promise made here.”
Kleasen was remanded in custody and the case was adjourned until May 14.
| QUOTE (alwaysonmymnd @ Oct 29 2003, 12:30 PM) |
| [FONT=Impact][SIZE=1][COLOR=blue] Here's what I know...there's only one case in Texas close the the Texas Chainsaw Massacre and it actually happened after the movie. Here's the story if interested. AMERICA asked yesterday for the extradition of a gun enthusiast who moved to Britain in 1991 after he had been freed from death row in Texas. Prosecutors want to retry Robert Elmer Kleasen, 69, over the shooting of two Mormon missionaries whose bodies he is said to have dismembered with a bandsaw and disposed of as chicken feed. Kleasen was freed by US authorities after a court ruled that evidence at his original trial in 1974 was inadmissible because of a faulty search warrant. He had served two years on death row. However, a hearing at Bow Street Magistrates’ Court, in Central London, was told yesterday that advances in DNA analysis and other forensic science techniques had established that there was a 99.9 per cent probability that he was the killer. Kleasen had made up grandiose stories to cover up his bizarre past in America. He had come to Britain in 1991 to marry the British woman who was his penfriend while he awaited execution. He lied to obtain gun certificates and built up a huge arsenal of weapons at his home in Barton, North Lincolnshire, before the police became suspicious and raided the house. False claims by Kleasen that he had been a CIA agent for 17 years, had flown U2 spy planes and had won the Congressional Medal of Honour for shooting down aircraft in the Korean War had earned him the nickname Odd Bob among fellow gun club members. He also claimed that he had been a member of the Nazi youth movement and that Goebbels was his uncle. His genuine past was stranger than fiction. In 1950 he opened fire in a New York hospital emergency room because he was not being treated promptly. In 1964 he was forced to resign as a sheriff’s jailer after making threats and in 1971, a year after graduating with a degree in sociology, he shot off a man’s toe for firing a gun at his mother’s farm. When police raided his home, they found 126 rifles and shotguns, four submachineguns, 32 handguns, 42,000 rounds of ammunition, several hand grenades and about 100lb of gunpowder. He fled to Denmark where he was jailed for battering a young Mormon woman. He then he went to Lebanon, where he tried to join the Palestine Liberation Army. After returning to America in 1973 he joined the Mormons and was convicted of murder the following year. James Lewis, QC, representing the American Government, told yesterday’s hearing that the bandsaw was used to cut up Gary Darley, 20, and Mark Fischer, 19. Blood, hair and human tissue were discovered on the saw in a taxidermist’s workshop where Kleasen worked as a cleaner. The two men disappeared after ignoring advice from their church elders not to accept an invitation to eat venison with Kleason at his trailer home outside Austin, Texas, in October 1974. The killings were said to have shocking similarities to the horror film The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, which was released in the same year. While the missionaries’ bodies were never discovered, their nametags and a prayer book with bullet holes through them were found. Mr Lewis said that a pair of Kleasen’s bloodstained trousers were found in a bin near his trailer and DNA tests showed “there is a 99.9997 per cent probability that the blood belonged to Gary Darley”. After the scientific breakthrough new warrants for Kleasen’s arrest were lodged. Yesterday the wheelchair-bound Kleasen, who wore a maroon sweatshirt and spectacles, interrupted the proceedings and said, in a strong Texan accent: “How can you keep lying all the time, and say that’s evidence.” Mr Lewis said that police discovered the men’s Seiko and Voumard watches and apartment and car keys in the trailer. Hair discovered on the band saw matched locks of hair kept by Mr Darley’s family. Police also discovered a .22 calibre rifle in Kleasen’s car. Mr Lewis said that Kleasen held a grudge towards the church because he felt it had “neglected him when he was incarcerated earlier for poaching a buffalo from an exotic game ranch”. He added: “Human tissue and hair were found on the blade of the saw and forensic experts found that it matched Mr Fischer and Mr Darley. Mr Kleasen had the motive and the opportunities for the crime and he gave inconsistent accounts to police when questioned about his actions.” Kleasen, who moved to Britain in 1991 and married the widow of a senior Humberside policeman who had become his penfriend, was sentenced in June 2000 by Grimsby Crown Court to three years in jail for illegal possession of firearms. At that hearing Judge Michael Heath recommended Kleasen for deportation, saying that he had no doubt that he would reoffend if he remained in Britain. Police began investigating Kleason after his wife, Marie Longley, 68, tipped them off about a collection of weapons at the couple’s home in Barton, Lincolnshire. He was said to have lied to the Humberside force over a series of previous convictions in America so that he could get a shotgun certificate in 1991, a firearms licence the next year and a dealer’s permit in 1997. Kleasen built up such a strong relationship with the force’s firearms unit, advising them on weapons, that he was on their Christmas card list. When officers raided his home in April 1999 they found 40 weapons, including a Thompson sub-machinegun, two pistols and a shotgun, and 264 rounds of ammunition. A British court would not extradite a defendant to face the death sentence, but Mr Lewis said that the state of Texas had promised that Kleasen, if found guilty in America, would not be sentenced to death. Kleasen has always denied the charges. Professor Speedy Rice, from Gonzaga University, in Spokane, Washington, told the court that Texas, a state renowned for its severe stance on capital punishment, might not keep its promise. He said: “Texas has always been very aggressive about their death penalty. They have the largest number of executions in the US. “The problem is the politics of the death penalty. If the prosecutor decides to go ahead with the death penalty there’s really no way to enforce the promise made here.” Kleasen was remanded in custody and the case was adjourned until May 14. |
IE, Kleasen copied The Texas Chainsaw Massacre; not vice-versa...
See:
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| The killings were said to have shocking similarities to the horror film The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, which was released in the same year. |
Being quite the horror enthusiast, I have researched this topic fairly thoroughly.
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre did NOT occur as related in the films... or at least, if it did, it was NOT the intention of Tobe Hooper and Kim Henkel to copy it; as they had no knowledge of the events occuring. The events in the film were VERY loosely based on Ed Gien; the psychopathic, woman-hating cannibal-pervert who slaughtered an unknown number of women and did freakish and disturing things with thier bones, skin, and internal orgrans. I will spare the details here for those who may have a weal constitution.
As for the new film:
As a fan of the original, I went into the new film believing that it shouldn't have been made, and that it could never top the original. Gleefully, I was wrong. No, it is not a better movie than the original... nor is it a worse one. What it is, is a VERY different one! While the original still holds the edge in creativity, it's psychological brand of horror is not quite as intense, and it's family of psychos is much less believable. The new film keeps the sick psychological horror of the original, and adds a new brutality. This brutality adds a believability to the family (especially to "Leatherface" and the family's patriarch, the Sherrif), while we see the sickness, not just in thier odd behavior, but in the hatred they genuinely convey for the teens who do not share thier way of life. Thier bitter, isolationist outlook and thier brutality and effectiveness in thier killing makes the family VERY frightening indeed... and also very believable. I have ran across a few folks in the backwoods that, I think, would only need the proper encouragement to make this film finally a true story...
My rating:
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre did NOT occur as related in the films... or at least, if it did, it was NOT the intention of Tobe Hooper and Kim Henkel to copy it; as they had no knowledge of the events occuring. The events in the film were VERY loosely based on Ed Gien; the psychopathic, woman-hating cannibal-pervert who slaughtered an unknown number of women and did freakish and disturing things with thier bones, skin, and internal orgrans. I will spare the details here for those who may have a weal constitution.
As for the new film:
As a fan of the original, I went into the new film believing that it shouldn't have been made, and that it could never top the original. Gleefully, I was wrong. No, it is not a better movie than the original... nor is it a worse one. What it is, is a VERY different one! While the original still holds the edge in creativity, it's psychological brand of horror is not quite as intense, and it's family of psychos is much less believable. The new film keeps the sick psychological horror of the original, and adds a new brutality. This brutality adds a believability to the family (especially to "Leatherface" and the family's patriarch, the Sherrif), while we see the sickness, not just in thier odd behavior, but in the hatred they genuinely convey for the teens who do not share thier way of life. Thier bitter, isolationist outlook and thier brutality and effectiveness in thier killing makes the family VERY frightening indeed... and also very believable. I have ran across a few folks in the backwoods that, I think, would only need the proper encouragement to make this film finally a true story...
My rating:
| QUOTE (saxcatz @ Oct 30 2003, 10:55 AM) |
| Ed Gien; the psychopathic, woman-hating cannibal-pervert who slaughtered an unknown number of women and did freakish and disturing things with thier bones, skin, and internal orgrans. |
I'm not entirely sure, but I believe Gein only killed 1 woman, though the rest were victims of his latest hobby of grave robbing..
I went and saw the movie. Overall, it was good, but its not as accurate as the producers want us to believe. The real story from the late '70s/early '80s was just a sick serial killer who mutilated his victims. The ending was too much like Blair Witch. 
| QUOTE (dust19 @ Oct 30 2003, 06:57 AM) | ||
I'm not entirely sure, but I believe Gein only killed 1 woman, though the rest were victims of his latest hobby of grave robbing.. |
Nope...
At LEAST three, but police of the time speculated that there could have been many more.
hey there!
i went and saw the remake tonight through in edinburgh with mark..
i heard a lot of stories years ago, but this was the first time watching it, or woteva..
i got pretty scared a lot of the time, and im curious to fnd out a lot more about the story, if anybody knows more about it, or has some interesting links please post or email them to me
i keep reading all different things, mostly involving other horror movies and a guy called ed, im sure it's kinda hard to find stuff out on this topic because of it being a movie and all, but nevertheless would be good to read up on it
i went and saw the remake tonight through in edinburgh with mark..
i heard a lot of stories years ago, but this was the first time watching it, or woteva..
i got pretty scared a lot of the time, and im curious to fnd out a lot more about the story, if anybody knows more about it, or has some interesting links please post or email them to me
i keep reading all different things, mostly involving other horror movies and a guy called ed, im sure it's kinda hard to find stuff out on this topic because of it being a movie and all, but nevertheless would be good to read up on it
I didn't see the first one, and was dragged to the remake. I'm happy I went. Now I need to see the original. It did spark a discussion between us (I went with four other people) and I decided to research it. The story is loosely based on real killers. Ed Gein was the first actual person used for a model. Elmer Wayne (27 dead in Houston TX) was also used. Listed below are a few sites that support that the movie is fictional. The one at Joe Briggs.com has an interview with Tobe Hooper (creator of TCM) and his inspiration for this story.
I have found sites such as:
http://www.houseofhorrors.com/gein.htm (information about Ed Gein what a sicko)
http://www.joebobbriggs.com/misccolumns/tc...prehensive.html (interview with Tobe Hooper)
http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers...ein/bill_1.html (pointed out in an earlier post)
http://www.edgeinthemovie.com/story/index.html (movie about Ed Gein. gives some background info)
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms...6923/truth.html (more Ed Gein)
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/crime/se...r-wayne-henley/ (Elmer Wayne Henley information)
http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers...d_4.html?sect=2 (in depth on Elmer Wayne Henley)
The movie is not a documentary. It's not based on a true story. It's one mans idea which was shaped loosely by actual events. tobehooper.com will be up and running soon I suppose. I checked it out, and it says "under construction". Hopefully light will be further shed on the subject. Even if the TCM is not real, it's still a good movie, and the research on the subject that I've done has made the movie more enjoyable for me. Take it easy...Hook em Horns!!!
I have found sites such as:
http://www.houseofhorrors.com/gein.htm (information about Ed Gein what a sicko)
http://www.joebobbriggs.com/misccolumns/tc...prehensive.html (interview with Tobe Hooper)
http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers...ein/bill_1.html (pointed out in an earlier post)
http://www.edgeinthemovie.com/story/index.html (movie about Ed Gein. gives some background info)
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms...6923/truth.html (more Ed Gein)
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/crime/se...r-wayne-henley/ (Elmer Wayne Henley information)
http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers...d_4.html?sect=2 (in depth on Elmer Wayne Henley)
The movie is not a documentary. It's not based on a true story. It's one mans idea which was shaped loosely by actual events. tobehooper.com will be up and running soon I suppose. I checked it out, and it says "under construction". Hopefully light will be further shed on the subject. Even if the TCM is not real, it's still a good movie, and the research on the subject that I've done has made the movie more enjoyable for me. Take it easy...Hook em Horns!!!
I saw the film last night, and although I'm not a horror enthusiast by any stretch, quite the opposite in fact, I did find the film disturbingly watchable.
What was the significance of finding the glass jar with the photo of the woman in it in the car?
Thanks for the elucidative comparison saxcatz I have yet to see the original movie.
What was the significance of finding the glass jar with the photo of the woman in it in the car?
Thanks for the elucidative comparison saxcatz
I have yet to see the original movie.
Well I've been looking around a bit now. I saw the movie last Friday (Halloween) and it really rattled me up a bit - I'm not that great with horror movies and that one really scared me. I've found two different 'truths':
1) The story was inspired by a man named Ed Gein who also was the killer that inspired Psycho and Silence of the Lambs.
2) The story was inspired by a man named Thomas Hewitt who killed/mutilated 33 people and make leather masks and instruments (?) out of their skin.
Anyone know anything else?
1) The story was inspired by a man named Ed Gein who also was the killer that inspired Psycho and Silence of the Lambs.
2) The story was inspired by a man named Thomas Hewitt who killed/mutilated 33 people and make leather masks and instruments (?) out of their skin.
Anyone know anything else?
SO A THOMAS HEWITT WAS REAL?! 
because i cant find anything but just movie crap about it. i think THEY might be covering it up so the town wont look bad or have thousands of peeps goin there and disrupting a quiet, loony town.
because i cant find anything but just movie crap about it. i think THEY might be covering it up so the town wont look bad or have thousands of peeps goin there and disrupting a quiet, loony town.
Okay, I stumbled upon this topic, thought I'd add my two cents.
I've yet to see the new one with the thought in mind that Cult Classic flims should not be made but I do know a bit about the story and ect.
I know NOTHING about a "Thomas Hewitt" other that there was a man of the same name who lived in London and died in 1680 (I think).
About Ed Gein: I've read everything I can about him, and watched a documentery on him. He was tramitized by his parents, force-fed religion, forced to watch the slaughter of pigs at a young age. He was trying to figure out how to bring his mother back to life, and was testing on the dead bodies that he robbed from graves. He was schizophrenic and "his mother" told him who to kill. (PSYCHO) He killed his Brother shortly after his father died. He killed one woman by shooting her. He then mutilated her body and sewed a few peices of skin of that woman's body to a few other pieces (meaning he had killed them before). He never wore a mask, but he did wear a body suit made of the flesh. He then killed a woman and hung her up in the cellar (like you would a pig if you were slaughtering it yourself). He used bones for silverware, lamp bases, bowls ect. They implyed the fact that he was indeed a canibal but I don't really think anyone KNOWS that. He was a very sick man. Of course when the police found out about what had happend, they had never seen anything like this before, even in movies.
Sorry for the grousum description but I think that in this topic, it shouldn't bother anyone. If it did, my apologies.
I live in Oklahoma, and have been to Texas many times. There is no TCM true story because if there is then Silence of the Lambs, Psycho, and a few others are also true.
And just for a little insight, no lol I'm not a psycho who goes around looking up a bunch of crazy serial killers all day long.....just on the weekends
Sunshine
I've yet to see the new one with the thought in mind that Cult Classic flims should not be made but I do know a bit about the story and ect.
I know NOTHING about a "Thomas Hewitt" other that there was a man of the same name who lived in London and died in 1680 (I think).
About Ed Gein: I've read everything I can about him, and watched a documentery on him. He was tramitized by his parents, force-fed religion, forced to watch the slaughter of pigs at a young age. He was trying to figure out how to bring his mother back to life, and was testing on the dead bodies that he robbed from graves. He was schizophrenic and "his mother" told him who to kill. (PSYCHO) He killed his Brother shortly after his father died. He killed one woman by shooting her. He then mutilated her body and sewed a few peices of skin of that woman's body to a few other pieces (meaning he had killed them before). He never wore a mask, but he did wear a body suit made of the flesh. He then killed a woman and hung her up in the cellar (like you would a pig if you were slaughtering it yourself). He used bones for silverware, lamp bases, bowls ect. They implyed the fact that he was indeed a canibal but I don't really think anyone KNOWS that. He was a very sick man. Of course when the police found out about what had happend, they had never seen anything like this before, even in movies.
Sorry for the grousum description but I think that in this topic, it shouldn't bother anyone. If it did, my apologies.
I live in Oklahoma, and have been to Texas many times. There is no TCM true story because if there is then Silence of the Lambs, Psycho, and a few others are also true.
And just for a little insight, no lol I'm not a psycho who goes around looking up a bunch of crazy serial killers all day long.....just on the weekends
Sunshine
I went to see the movie myself and i have to say it left quite an affect on me, i think more so cuz its 'true'?but now im hearing its not?i suspose its a debated topic,but the actual new version i think is a bit far fetched. the whole thing with the guy above the piano with one leg and hanging from a hook really give me the shivers, but did it actually happen?n e of it? did a girl actually survive it all, cuz if she did,where is she?wud she realy want that whole episode that happened to her,viewed by millions?at the end of the day it is only bringing back horrible memories?im hearin that its based on a certain man ed bein or sumthing?but who knows.....
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I saw the movie and it scared the heck out of me. Well so did the original version. Anyhow, I thought it was scary and I was still afraid even after we left the movie theatre. I give it two thumbs up for scary. Oh, and I thought Jessica Beal was great in it.
I ahven't seen the original and have vowed to keep it that way so there is NO WAY I am seeing this remake! I don't think I'd ever be able to sleep again, it makes it even worse that it is based on a true story. I like a good horror, but I just don't think I'd be able to make it through either of these two!
i dont think you guys are getting it. IT IS BASED ON A MAN THAT ONLY KILLED TWO PEOPLE. THERE WAS NO LEATHER FACE. SURE, EDDIE GEIN WAS REALLY MORBID IN THAT HE DID MAKE THINGS OUT OF HUMAN SKIN AND HAD A BODY SUIT TO WEAR AROUND, BUT THATS NOT HALF AS SCARY AS WHAT 90% OF THE OTHER KILLERS HAVE DONE. I would recamend going and seeing the movie just to say you have seen it. but it wasnt real.
CASTOR
CASTOR
Thanks for that Castor, I didn't realise about the real murderer only killing two people, although I do still think the human body suit is terrifying! I still don't think I could watch it though, even if it is fiction. I'm going to be a wimp where this film is concerned! I saw the clip where he hangs the woman on the meat cleaver while she's still alive and struggling, and that made me gag on its own! 
| QUOTE (CASTOR @ Nov 10 2003, 12:19 PM) |
| i dont think you guys are getting it. IT IS BASED ON A MAN THAT ONLY KILLED TWO PEOPLE. THERE WAS NO LEATHER FACE. SURE, EDDIE GEIN WAS REALLY MORBID IN THAT HE DID MAKE THINGS OUT OF HUMAN SKIN AND HAD A BODY SUIT TO WEAR AROUND, BUT THATS NOT HALF AS SCARY AS WHAT 90% OF THE OTHER KILLERS HAVE DONE. I would recamend going and seeing the movie just to say you have seen it. but it wasnt real. CASTOR |
Last I read, it was still undetermined HOW many people Ed Gien killed. At LEAST two murders, maybe more, and lots of graverobbing and desecration. The point is; police never decided that he only murdered two people... that's just all they could prove at the time.
There were 2 other men that they wanted to pin him with but they couldnt find the bodies. But, that is the case with most killers. Or they try to inflate the number in order gain for fame. 2 women were proven but nothing else was found and the likelyhood of them finding the bodies and proving he did it are slim to none.
CASTOR
CASTOR
alright so i just went and seen it last night, i'm a big fan of horror movies, and i would really rate that movie up there with House of 1000 corpses, which i absolutely loved. i'm getting different stories on as to how real TCM was.. i can't seem to find a thing on the internet besides what people post on message boards, everything else says that its fake, but i was told that the clips in the beginning were actual footage. if someone finds a site please post it!!!!! thanks
danielle
danielle
We saw this movie at the drive-in friday night and I thought this movie was pretty damn good! I have never seen the original so I didn't go in with high expectations. The best thing about the movie was the fact it was very "low gore" and it left most of the incidences up to the viewers imagination.
I loved the camera sequence when the girl shot herself in the back of the van. That was awesome!
I also loved the little innuendos such as the grandmother/mother/aunt (whatever she was) yelling at the bucktoothed kid to "stay out with the dogs" until he "comes around" (or whatever) thus implying he was an animal himself, when in fact he was the one trying to help the people in "distress" out (humane) and the family were obviously the "animals".
I loved the camera sequence when the girl shot herself in the back of the van. That was awesome!
I also loved the little innuendos such as the grandmother/mother/aunt (whatever she was) yelling at the bucktoothed kid to "stay out with the dogs" until he "comes around" (or whatever) thus implying he was an animal himself, when in fact he was the one trying to help the people in "distress" out (humane) and the family were obviously the "animals".
Heeeeeey everybody! I am so confused....so many stories are floating around about "how true" this story is. I don't know who thinks this is strange...but I have an odd "obsession" i guess you could call it with creepy unsolved and disgusting murder cases. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre seems to be one of those cases, however, there are some people in this forum who are saying that it wasn't true, and others who are saying it WAS true, and everyone seems to have some sort of "proof" that their story is true! I really want to get tot he bottom of this but unfortunately the stupid internet is CLOGGED with movie sites and I can't find anything on the "real story". Anyone want some NICE and FRIENDLY input or help?
Oh yeah...one more thing...why would the people who made this movie claim it to be a true story if it wasn't?
Its so...inhumane...not to mention, wouldn't it be illegal to do something like that? Make people believe something that isnt true, I mean?
I really want to get tot he bottom of this but unfortunately the stupid internet is CLOGGED with movie sites and I can't find anything on the "real story". Anyone want some NICE and FRIENDLY input or help? Oh yeah...one more thing...why would the people who made this movie claim it to be a true story if it wasn't?
Its so...inhumane...not to mention, wouldn't it be illegal to do something like that? Make people believe something that isnt true, I mean?
My mom told me the whole story about the massacre! She was alive and married then, so i'm pretty sure she wasn't lieing. She rememered when it happened and she said she was freaked! well i would be too! Expecually he was never caught. Even though now he would be pretty old, but old people are capable of doing things. I'm just saying that i believe its real, and i'm not worried.. yet, until he decideds to strike again. He could be any where, he could possibly be dead. I don't really wanna know. I'm just glad i don't live in texas!
Bro
Bro
Ooh!! Cool! Yeah I asked my mom too and she said it did happen...she was in her teens then...so i believe she would remember. Oh and hey i was reading something on the internet and a little while after they discovered all the murdered people police shot down a guy who they thought was the killer....so who knows....maybe it was him.
So, according to your parents, it's apparantly a big gov't conspiracy... that is, the fact that you can find NO information to substantiate that the TCM ever occurred.
*Sorry about spelling... big hurry.*
*Sorry about spelling... big hurry.*
after 3 seconds searching on th einternet i found these, and remember it isnt based on a true story its inspired!
http://www.signaturebooks.com/excerpts/evil.htm
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/04/22/...0777238956.html
http://www.signaturebooks.com/excerpts/evil.htm
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/04/22/...0777238956.html
Ok the remake was released here in australia a little while ago but i saw it last weekend and was horrified and intruiged as many of u have said. Anyway, when i was comparing the two me and my mates where tossing up which version was more accurate of the truth (even though now i am starting to realise that there never was a massacre) however i just thought i would run this past everyone.
I heard from a mate that if a case is unsolved for so many years (not sure how many), then it becomes a public case, which means that all the evidence, files, statements, etc become available to the public. I dunno if this is the case with TCM but does this mean that there could have been a real event that was kept from public eyes?
just throwing ideas out there.
I heard from a mate that if a case is unsolved for so many years (not sure how many), then it becomes a public case, which means that all the evidence, files, statements, etc become available to the public. I dunno if this is the case with TCM but does this mean that there could have been a real event that was kept from public eyes?
just throwing ideas out there.
It wasn't based on a true crime, regardless of what was said at the beginning of the movie(inspired by a true story). Like what was said above, some of the things in the movie were based on Ed Gein.
Texas wasn't host to a chainsaw massacre as in the movie. Ed Gein lived in Wisconsin.
Your parents may have seen the movie when they were younger and just thought it to be based on a true story...It didn't happen.
Read this.
There are lots of crazy people and sick crimes in this world, but this isn't one of them. Fortunately.
Texas wasn't host to a chainsaw massacre as in the movie. Ed Gein lived in Wisconsin.
Your parents may have seen the movie when they were younger and just thought it to be based on a true story...It didn't happen.
Read this.
There are lots of crazy people and sick crimes in this world, but this isn't one of them. Fortunately.
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