Yesterday, there was an article in the paper that there was less wars now than a decade and a half ago. Seems that in 1991 there were 31 armed conflicts worldwide and now there are only 17 (that counts our Iraq and Afghanistan actions)! Seems that the wars and rumor of wars are getting smaller. Kinda shoots the “end of times” in the rear end! What do y’all think?

Silence before the storm maybe?

Maybe.....or maybe the storm has dissipated or maybe the storm warnings were in error all along!

Yeah who knows..? Seems like everyone want to be a weather man these days

did youknow that we have never gone without a war for 4000 years?

you pick an age, any age, and there is war going on somewhere in the world

And before that there werent anybody left after the wars to write about it. But seriously what about 4000 years and earlier? Was it more sporadic or no records of it or just a lack of wars?

No line quoted by rapture freaks makes me want to crash their skulls off hard, stationary objects more than the "Wars and rumors of wars" line. Why can they not see that there has always been such things? Earth is a big place, somewhere someone is always fighting, or dying of a plague or fufilling any of the other supposed signs of the end times. And no, things like the moon turning to blood don't count. Crazy how an entire mythos with millions of foaming at the mouth followers grew up over what seems to be nothing more than a lonely old exile getting into some particularly potent mushrooms.

Depends on what you mean by the "END OF TIMES".

I believe that WW3 is fast approching. Though I really don't think that it's going to kill humans off.

It is not really WWIII that is coming, as is a final act of closure in the whole West/East debate. The two civlizations have clashed for millenia and I fear perhaps the conflict will finally be resolved in a fashion none of us can imagine.

Interesting theory Mako. Hello, by the way, it's been awhile. I hope your well. In one momentary instance, world war 3 can start up. All North Korea has to do is test that missile and America says we will invade. All Iran has to do is keep enriching uranium and threaten Israel some more before they get attacked and will retaliate. Right now, there are wars. Right now, there are rumors of wars. What else do you need?

Or maybe this is the calm before the storm

there is no such thing aas the rapture.....the bible doesn't teach that so ....no

Hmm, a suicide bomber in Israel isn't considered "war" but terrorism. The crisis in East Timor is not considered "war" but internal conflict. Including these (which I would consider war, though the government does not) and I think there is plenty of "war and rumour of war", perhaps more than '91, perhaps not, I don't know. We're looking at a very micro scale of war in human history if we use only a 15-year window.

That said though, there is going to be no rapture. The Raptuere is only supportable circumstancially in the Bible, and it makes many assumptions on the End Times in revelation, of which no one can really be certain (especially in such an apocryphal work).

My personal belief is that there are many more plausible theories on the End Times to consider before leaping to a Rapture.

Regards, PA

The trinity is even less supportable than the rapture, but you accept that.

There is no difference. You can't really document either from the n.t., any more than you can document, say for example, the virgin birth in the Hebrew Scriptures.

I beg to differ. Though it may not have been called "trinity", i believe the 3-in-1 triune Godhead is supportable throughout all of scripture. But I suppose one who believes in a Rapture would say the same thing, right.

Perhaps I should not have been so categorical in saying that "the rapture will not happen". i'll amend that to "I do not believe the Rapture will occur". No one really knows the future for certain except God, and who knows, there may be a Rapture. i do not believe so, but the possibility is there. I just think there are more plausible explanations, before jumping to the conclusion of an 18th century doctrinal addition such as the Rapture

Regards, PA

What i hate about the "rapture" is that it cannot not happen. I mean comon anyone could predict that the world would end. Its common sense.

Please tell me you're not bemoaning the fact that there are less wars now then there were 15 years ago?

I don't understand, all the "Rapture" believers are hoping for the end of the world, but then when they contract an illness they start praying for a recovery?

Did I miss something?

I seriously doubt the US will invade NK if they test the missile. Im willing to bet its a bluff. As for Iran... I doubt that would cause a world war.

The only things that need to happen next for the "End Of the World" as we know it is:
One world Government, Of course the United Nations is Almost every nation.

The false prophet(many have already come), the anti christ both need to show up at some point.

All nations need to turn against Isreal. Which could happen with our next president.

The antichrist needs to order the construction of the temple, so he can sit in the throne and claim himself god. Also the Mark of the beast (from the anti christ?)

But before the anti christ can enter the world, many claim the church needs to be removed, because that is what is stopping his entry. So a "rapture" of the church in its entirety.

Although personally I believe the Church itself is evil.

I also believe the babalon of end times is America

the gospel will be preached throughout the world.

also a 200,000,000 men army must rise against isreal, and an army of that size has existed since 1970 I believe, and Its of course, from China.

Numbers 19:2-7 Appearance of the red heifer after 2000 years.

Daniel 12:4 Increase in knowledge and travel.

2 prophets will come from god and teach for 3.5 years, god will grant them great power, power to shut the sky so it doesnt rain or make it flood, power to cast plauges on people. If someone attempts to harm them fire will spew from their mouthes and consume the people. They are referred to as olive trees in Zechariah 4, it states again that these two olive branches are the two anointed ones that stand by the Lord of the whole earth

Luke 21:32 "Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all things take place."
And this verse can only be justified logically (in my opinion) If you put into account Reincarnation. Which was early jewish teaching and automatically transfered into the christian religion, of course any christian you talk to will deny this to the grave.

Matthew 24:8-9 "But all these things are merely the beginning of birth pangs. Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations on account of my name."

Of course it says "you will be hated by all nations on account of my name" only religion I know that comes close to this is Muslim beliefs. If I were to say "allah" in america I would be ridiculed, There has been mass- racism against them after 9-11. Even though only 20%~ of muslims are radicle in their beliefs. The Qu`ran says itself, take no excesses in your religion.

from one of the top ten signs of a christian
Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" -- including women, children, and trees!

And of course "Allah" and God are the same thing.

But the bible tells us, It will come like a theif in the night. That is why I believe these things have been on the dawn of happening for so long. Gods waiting to catch us with our pants down. And those who stand with god in that same very day, will be snatched.

There will be two prophets
Prophetic Signs that we are in the End Times for everything i didnt mention

How long have we been in the end times now? for most of human history it would seem

Like most weather men the dont get it right very often i think the same applys to this lolol

OMG, you're on to something Big C. Maybe the prophets are going to be two disconsolate weathermen

Lmao, Yes God chooses two weather men to be the end time prophets, because they fit the job description. Just look at their Job, their prepped for it their entire career. Lol just the doing battle with satan part kinda throws things off. (maybe satans really all the weather that never goes where its supposed to)

When the anti-Christ shows up, there has to be something in the world that everyone unites around...he's going to promise peace, which means there's wars and terrorism going on. Right now, Iran is developing nuclear weapons...whether or not they actually get to use them is unsure. But Iran has a lot of pull with other nations because of their oil. Look at who is putting on pressure for Iran to stop enriching uranium: the United Nations...the future one-world government. Look who is backing Iran--other Muslim nations, Russia, who is Israel's "neighbor to the North" who will attack Israel and China, the "2 million man army."

There have been signs of when the end of the world will come. Yes, I know people have predicted the end times since they were written, but no man really knows. All we can do is follow the times. No other time in human history has every single sign been fulfilled. The bible says that the end times will happen and Jesus will return in the generation when, "The time of the gentiles has been fulfilled" in Jerusalem. For the past 2,000 years, gentiles have had control of Jerusalem. Now that the Jews are back in their right place, Israel, the time of the gentiles has been fulfilled. Also, Isaiah mentions, "Can a nation be born in a day?" All of that happened in 1948, finally fulfilling all prophecy.

Its actually two hundred million man army. Difference of about 198 million

Hell as long as there's an afterlife, I don't care when or how we die.

I do...cuz I dont want to die before my lil one...I would like to at least live long enough to watch her grow

Oh what's the point. She'll grow, you'll get old and wrinklish. she'll get married you'll die. What's the difference. How do you know you wont get to whach her grow up when you die?

because when I am alive...I CAN SEE HER I KNOW she is growing....if I die I may NOT KNOW..damn boy..do you have to be so clueless??

I want what ANY parent wants..and that is...............to watch them grow...do do yourself a fav and adopt a clue

I dont care if I get old and wrinkles..I will be HAPPY knowing she is growing into a lovely young woman...thats one of the reason WHY I love being a parent would somebody slap some sense into this lad??!!

Let me tell you a little story. My grandma sold everything she owned when she moved to canada. She gave all the money she had to one of her sons. She kept bitching at him because he wouldn't give her back the money. Then her son finally gave her back the money. They haven't talked since. So the point is. Things don't always work out the way you want em to.

Umm NOO sorry ...but you dont get it do you?? see I only said I dont wish to die before my lil girl grows up...that is something a lot of parents hope for....you dont get it..you never will...sigh..you have a lot to learn because comparing your grandmother looking money back, and not getting it..is not the same as wanting to see your kid grow...if you want to throw in a better example...go for it..but I doubt you can...I know we all dont get what we hope for...but one can only hope <--understand??

Well you didnt need to put in the foul language...but we may not ALWAYS get what we hope for..but there is something I did get...BECKY!!! so some things do happen

I wanted to win the lottery, never happened.

so did thousands of others..guess what they did win...

Hell someone's gotta win.

Sorry, back on topic.

Well even though less wars means less confict it also might mean the buliding of tension, Politics are like earthquakes some things are small or some are major, If something doesn't happen more likely it is going to end up in a major event