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starlitkate
BUFFALO, N.Y. (June 29) - A pair of pot smokers picked the wrong day to use the drive-thru window at a KFC restaurant in Buffalo. Two men in their 20s pulled up to the restaurant's window and asked for the Wednesday special.


Meanwhile, a couple of narcotics detectives were inside ordering their food. That's when a cloud of marijuana smoke wafted into the restaurant. The detectives then spotted the two men smoking what one of the cops called "the biggest marijuana cigar your ever saw."


The detectives went outside and arrested 23-year-old Charles Morris and 26-year-old Gregory Quick, both of Buffalo. The two men were charged with possession of marijuana and smoking it in public.


One of the cops said he got the cashier to refund the pot smokers' money for the Wednesday special.

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w00t.gif LMAO This is too funny!! I can imagine what the cashier thought when they rolled up and what the detectives thought when the whiff of it came right into the windows past they're noses.lol Hehe laugh.gif
-Cult of the wolves-
HAHAHAHA ohhwell, i swear if they make marijuana legal there wouldnt be asmuch crime. I think...
frogfish
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i swear if they make marijuana legal there wouldnt be asmuch crime. I think

There would be more accidents as to the side-effects of it...
Johnny Truant
QUOTE(frogfish @ Jul 2 2006, 12:52 PM) [snapback]1254979[/snapback]

There would be more accidents as to the side-effects of it...


bull.sh**.
Carey Reagan
QUOTE(frogfish @ Jul 2 2006, 10:52 AM) [snapback]1254979[/snapback]

There would be more accidents as to the side-effects of it...



... huh.gif

"You can never get into a car crash while smoking pot. It is f***king impossible!.. you're only going two miles an hour!"
-- Bill Hicks
Dando Kast
QUOTE(frogfish @ Jul 2 2006, 02:52 PM) [snapback]1254979[/snapback]

There would be more accidents as to the side-effects of it...


I agree with the above two posts. Smoking pot doesn't have that many adverse affects when it come to getting in accident....now alchohol, which is legal by the way, causes 100000 deaths a year on average...
Reincarnated
haha, that's my hometown, the majority of people here smoke pot.
green_dude777
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haha, that's my hometown, the majority of people here smoke pot


And there's nothing wrong with that as long as they're not hurting anyone. Which covers that if someone is too high to drive and they hurt someone, then in that scenario they are wrong.

Reincarnated
QUOTE(green_dude777 @ Jul 3 2006, 03:26 PM) [snapback]1255894[/snapback]

And there's nothing wrong with that as long as they're not hurting anyone. Which covers that if someone is too high to drive and they hurt someone, then in that scenario they are wrong.
not at all, buffalo is known for it's hospitality. it's one thing you defiantly notice lacking from other area's when you travel or move away. i'm glad i atleast live in a liberal state close to canada. grin2.gif
Darkwind
In Florida they would have gotten a DUI (driving under the influence) added to their charges.
Nope it is not good to drive while stoned on anything.
Kaknelson
I have been in that situation many times. I go through with blunts all the time. Damn pigs, go find the real criminals!
coldethyl
QUOTE(Kaknelson @ Jul 4 2006, 01:35 AM) [snapback]1256687[/snapback]

I have been in that situation many times. I go through with blunts all the time. Damn pigs, go find the real criminals!


Well if you're breaking the law you are the real criminal.
Celumnaz
nothing against pot at all, I'm in favor of legalization... but...

please don't operate heavy machinery while under the influence of anything.
Kaknelson
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jul 6 2006, 08:06 AM) [snapback]1259415[/snapback]

Well if you're breaking the law you are the real criminal.


The "Law" is not perfect, there is room for MUCH improvement. Especially this worldy issue. Legaization of ALL products of hemp. Prohibition must end, it is utter stupidity.
coldethyl
QUOTE(Kaknelson @ Jul 6 2006, 07:41 PM) [snapback]1260111[/snapback]

The "Law" is not perfect, there is room for MUCH improvement. Especially this worldy issue. Legaization of ALL products of hemp. Prohibition must end, it is utter stupidity.


Whether it is stupid or not it's still the LAW currently and so if you break it, it makes you a criminal. Simple, really.
Kaknelson
Some just don't pay much mind to such immoral laws. The fact is that is much safer and healthier than drinking, if you look at it in that sence. And, healthier than smoking ciggarettes. It grows in all continents except Antarctica for a reason. It is a product that needs to be reproduced and cultivated. If we keep representing how we feel, pubically or through music, more will overstand the truth. The youth now a days are wiser to it. If one is to rebel against the machine in that sence. They will have to remove it, or decrimilize it eventually. The prohibition is merely to save the rich their money.
coldethyl
QUOTE(Kaknelson @ Jul 6 2006, 10:25 PM) [snapback]1260394[/snapback]

Some just don't pay much mind to such immoral laws. The fact is that is much safer and healthier than drinking, if you look at it in that sence. And, healthier than smoking ciggarettes. It grows in all continents except Antarctica for a reason. It is a product that needs to be reproduced and cultivated. If we keep representing how we feel, pubically or through music, more will overstand the truth. The youth now a days are wiser to it. If one is to rebel against the machine in that sence. They will have to remove it, or decrimilize it eventually. The prohibition is merely to save the rich their money.


Just because you think it's immoral it doesn't change the fact that it's illegal. No matter how hard you wish it to be legal, it's still not--so having it is illegal. The youth in the 1960's was wise to it too and that's what made it illegal. I don't see how pot being illegal saves rich people money, but you can believe what ever you want to believe. Police have to enforce the laws regardless of whether or not you agree with them or think they are moral. That is their job and that is what they have chosen to do.
Never_Hit_Nirvana
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jul 6 2006, 10:17 PM) [snapback]1260379[/snapback]

Whether it is stupid or not it's still the LAW currently and so if you break it, it makes you a criminal. Simple, really.

Yup.
One of the first jobs I held was working the drive through in a liqour store, and wow, the shotgun buzzes I used to get. The pay sucked, the people where mongoloids, but damn, that bonus, and the free shots the distributors used to hand out, made it worth it.
coldethyl
QUOTE(Never_Hit_Nirvana @ Jul 7 2006, 12:42 PM) [snapback]1261041[/snapback]

Yup.
One of the first jobs I held was working the drive through in a liqour store, and wow, the shotgun buzzes I used to get. The pay sucked, the people where mongoloids, but damn, that bonus, and the free shots the distributors used to hand out, made it worth it.


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That would be a very difficult job! I'd be scared of getting robbed, too.
OlDrippy34
Buffalo is hospitable? This is excellent news, as I'll be attending a concert there in ONE WEEK'S TIME. I intend to be a criminal in the same vein as these vermin, except I will be ten feet tall and bulletproof by the time I hope to run into any cops.

I'll let you all know if I get arrested, then I'll regale you with tales of the UNEXPLAINED from inside the drunk tank.
Kaknelson
Well, if you went from Canada and back to America, you would know what i am saying. The laws here are the same, but the police are wise to the fact that it isn't a big deal.

If i was in the US right now, i would have been in Jail a LONG time ago.

Ha. We all have diff opinons on this, its all good wink2.gif

coldethyl
QUOTE(OlDrippy34 @ Jul 7 2006, 07:19 PM) [snapback]1261503[/snapback]

Buffalo is hospitable? This is excellent news, as I'll be attending a concert there in ONE WEEK'S TIME. I intend to be a criminal in the same vein as these vermin, except I will be ten feet tall and bulletproof by the time I hope to run into any cops.

I'll let you all know if I get arrested, then I'll regale you with tales of the UNEXPLAINED from inside the drunk tank.


laugh.gif thumbsup.gif

If you can remember any tales from the drunk tank... wink2.gif
OlDrippy34
I'll remember the UNEXPLAINED ones.
Boff
One thing I've thought about before..

People always point out that alchol kills more etc than pot does.

Well thats because its legal to get so of course, lots of people drink it etc.
So if pot was legal, I have a feeling you would see the amount of people who die etc. from it would rise up high (no pun attended) as well.

If the shoe was on the other foot and alchol was banned and pot was legal, I bet you would see the same argument aboot it.

Kaknelson
QUOTE(Boff @ Jul 7 2006, 06:34 PM) [snapback]1261611[/snapback]

One thing I've thought about before..

People always point out that alchol kills more etc than pot does.

Well thats because its legal to get so of course, lots of people drink it etc.
So if pot was legal, I have a feeling you would see the amount of people who die etc. from it would rise up high (no pun attended) as well.

If the shoe was on the other foot and alchol was banned and pot was legal, I bet you would see the same argument aboot it.


Drinking clearly makes you do more stupid, and dangerous things than smoking ganja.

There is people in Jamaica that smoke their whole lives, and live healthy lifestyles. Lung cancer and ganja don't even have any links together.

It doesn't cause any kind of desiese, but it does rid of athsma. And, it could replace MANY pharmacy drugs.
OlDrippy34
Also, I don't believe there have been any marijuana-poisoning cases. Ever.
coldethyl
That still doesn't make it legal. hmm.gif Maybe one day it will be, but for now it isn't and blaming the police isn't the answer. Just my opinion anyway. yes.gif
CaitSith
I have smoked pot all my life, and I often drink on the weekends if need calls. I have worked at every job I've ever had while high at some point. I performed my work just as efficiently if not better, (do to the fact that it relaxes the subconscious mind relieve stress.) I couldn't imagine trying to do this stuff drunk, trying to program the machines I work with drunk would be impossible in a drunken state where you are disoriented, unfocused, and uninhibited.
It is my understanding that the government gives pot its illegal status due to the fact that its a billion dollar industry that cannot be taxed. If it was legal anyone could grow and trade marijuana. Now locally marijuana sells for around $90 an ounce. One marijuana plant can produce upwards of seven pounds of marijuana each season, thats thousands of dollars worth of private and untaxable income every year. Do you think your government wants that?

Cops don't always bust every crime, some laws are redicules, isn't it against the law to swim on land in California, or ride a bicycle backwards in Oklahoma (I'm not really sure that these states coincide with the actual state, but they're laws somewhere tongue.gif ) If I was a cop I would turn the other way if someone was smoking pot at home or someplace with out children. I agree however that the detectives were just doing their job, and those dudes just had really bad luck that they were there.
Kaknelson
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jul 7 2006, 07:13 PM) [snapback]1261675[/snapback]

That still doesn't make it legal. hmm.gif Maybe one day it will be, but for now it isn't and blaming the police isn't the answer. Just my opinion anyway. yes.gif


Right. But, I don't blame the policemen. Just me being who i am, makes me who i am, and this is by standing up for what i believe in. The Police, they know, and are wising up to this issue.

QUOTE(Leviathan113 @ Jul 7 2006, 07:14 PM) [snapback]1261680[/snapback]

I have smoked pot all my life, and I often drink on the weekends if need calls. I have worked at every job I've ever had while high at some point. I performed my work just as efficiently if not better, (do to the fact that it relaxes the subconscious mind relieve stress.) I couldn't imagine trying to do this stuff drunk, trying to program the machines I work with drunk would be impossible in a drunken state where you are disoriented, unfocused, and uninhibited.
It is my understanding that the government gives pot its illegal status due to the fact that its a billion dollar industry that cannot be taxed. If it was legal anyone could grow and trade marijuana. Now locally marijuana sells for around $90 an ounce. One marijuana plant can produce upwards of seven pounds of marijuana each season, thats thousands of dollars worth of private and untaxable income every year. Do you think your government wants that?

Cops don't always bust every crime, some laws are redicules, isn't it against the law to swim on land in California, or ride a bicycle backwards in Oklahoma (I'm not really sure that these states coincide with the actual state, but they're laws somewhere tongue.gif ) If I was a cop I would turn the other way if someone was smoking pot at home or someplace with out children. I agree however that the detectives were just doing their job, and those dudes just had really bad luck that they were there.


You have some great points!
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Dando Kast
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jul 7 2006, 11:13 PM) [snapback]1261675[/snapback]

That still doesn't make it legal. hmm.gif Maybe one day it will be, but for now it isn't and blaming the police isn't the answer. Just my opinion anyway. yes.gif


Do you even know why it's illegal? like kaknelson said, to keep the rich rich. Back when America was being founded there was a large industry called the cotton industry run by the equivalant of todays billionaires. Now sometime into them being in business some guys started to realize that hemp grew rather quickly and could be made into many different products, well.... the cotton farmers didn't like the chance that they could be put out of business by a better and more reliable product then cotton so they pressured the government of the time to make it an illegal substance and since the cotton farmers had a lot of $ to flash the government obliged.
Never_Hit_Nirvana
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jul 7 2006, 07:11 PM) [snapback]1261492[/snapback]

laugh.gif
That would be a very difficult job! I'd be scared of getting robbed, too.

No fear of getting robbed. We kept a loaded .44 Magnum behind the counter. devil.gif
Never_Hit_Nirvana
And yes pot should be legalized, for financial reasons. Imagine a government regulated pot industry, without the insane, morality-based taxes on cigarettes. Imagine getting a pack of Marlboro Greens for $2.50. Imagine the huge upswing in the pizza, fast food, and junk food markets. All in all, a massive boon for the economy.
Dando Kast
QUOTE(Never_Hit_Nirvana @ Jul 8 2006, 12:02 PM) [snapback]1262183[/snapback]

And yes pot should be legalized, for financial reasons. Imagine a government regulated pot industry, without the insane, morality-based taxes on cigarettes. Imagine getting a pack of Marlboro Greens for $2.50. Imagine the huge upswing in the pizza, fast food, and junk food markets. All in all, a massive boon for the economy.


Well..the "munchie" stage quickly fades when you smoke on a daily basis...so I doubt you'd see an increase in junk food sales (junk food is also less healthy then pot is for you by the way).
starlitkate
^ Very true. I used to smoke it on a daily basis from time I woke up till time I went to bed. I would smoke so much that I had to switch dealers back and forth between 3 or 4 because each dealer's pot had a different affect on me cuz if I stayed with one then I'd get used to it and munchies would be gone.
coldethyl
QUOTE(Kaknelson @ Jul 8 2006, 05:39 AM) [snapback]1262014[/snapback]

Right. But, I don't blame the policemen.


Well saying that the cops should be out busting real criminals sounds like you are blaming the police to me.

QUOTE(Dando Kast @ Jul 8 2006, 08:54 AM) [snapback]1262142[/snapback]

Do you even know why it's illegal? like kaknelson said, to keep the rich rich.


I don't need a history lesson, thanks. That's your opinion as to why it's illegal. You're probably paranoid from all the smoke. laugh.gif Anyway the reason it's illegal wasn't the point. The fact that it is illegal is the point.

QUOTE(Never_Hit_Nirvana @ Jul 8 2006, 09:55 AM) [snapback]1262180[/snapback]

No fear of getting robbed. We kept a loaded .44 Magnum behind the counter. devil.gif


laugh.gif thumbsup.gif AMEN!
Kaknelson
QUOTE(Dando Kast @ Jul 8 2006, 11:39 AM) [snapback]1262420[/snapback]

Well..the "munchie" stage quickly fades when you smoke on a daily basis...so I doubt you'd see an increase in junk food sales (junk food is also less healthy then pot is for you by the way).


I posted this in another forum.. but it's applicable here:

The increased appetite (often referred to as "the munchies"), is an effect of stimulation of the endocannabinoid system, which affects body weight, insulin resistance, and dyslipidemia. Some reports also claim that it can function as an appetite suppressant, and laborers in some parts of Africa, the Caribbean and other parts of the world where hunger is a daily reality for many people are known to use the drug to alleviate hunger.


QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jul 10 2006, 01:24 PM) [snapback]1264909[/snapback]

Well saying that the cops should be out busting real criminals sounds like you are blaming the police to me.


Well, i don't play blaming games. I forgive them for they know not what they do. But, if any man stands in my way of what i others believe is true, i will stand up for my beliefs. Babylon, or Police, are merely inforcing a "law" and prohibition that they are told too. Decrimilization is a sign of acceptence, but it is not enough.
Dando Kast
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I don't need a history lesson, thanks. That's your opinion as to why it's illegal. You're probably paranoid from all the smoke. Anyway the reason it's illegal wasn't the point. The fact that it is illegal is the point.



That's not my opinion, it's fact. I don't agree with why it is illegal, you can blindly follow your government all you want but the politicians are in it for themselves, not you or me. Saying I'm paranoid from smoke is rather appalling too, yes I smoke pot but I have also completed college without a hassle, have a great full time job, a fiancee and recently bought a house and on top of that were supporting both our younger siblings(one since January and the other since June). I am living proof that pot doesn't ruin your life and can be used rather safely.

Edit

..and yet you agree with the use of a firearm when there are several other safer ways to subdue an opponent, even if they have a gun...but that might be my 12 years of Tae Kwon Do and martial arts training coming out....
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coldethyl
QUOTE(Dando Kast @ Jul 11 2006, 09:11 AM) [snapback]1265892[/snapback]

That's not my opinion, it's fact. I don't agree with why it is illegal, you can blindly follow your government all you want but the politicians are in it for themselves, not you or me. Saying I'm paranoid from smoke is rather appalling too, yes I smoke pot but I have also completed college without a hassle, have a great full time job, a fiancee and recently bought a house and on top of that were supporting both our younger siblings(one since January and the other since June). I am living proof that pot doesn't ruin your life and can be used rather safely.

Edit

..and yet you agree with the use of a firearm when there are several other safer ways to subdue an opponent, even if they have a gun...but that might be my 12 years of Tae Kwon Do and martial arts training coming out....


Yes I agree with the use of a firearm as I am a woman and men are stronger than women. Whoopdie doo about your Tae Kwon Do, it still wouldn't help me against a man, now would it?? Besides I don't know what thread you pulled that from .

And yeah if I want to blindly follow my government I will, thanks. And you would risk all of your listed stuff above to smoke a joint? Seems a bit ridiculous to me. Still everything you said doesn't make it legal one bit. You can moan about it all you want on a forum or to another poster but it's not getting it closer to being legalized now is it? hmm.gif
Dando Kast
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jul 13 2006, 05:51 PM) [snapback]1269076[/snapback]

Yes I agree with the use of a firearm as I am a woman and men are stronger than women. Whoopdie doo about your Tae Kwon Do, it still wouldn't help me against a man, now would it?? Besides I don't know what thread you pulled that from .

And yeah if I want to blindly follow my government I will, thanks. And you would risk all of your listed stuff above to smoke a joint? Seems a bit ridiculous to me. Still everything you said doesn't make it legal one bit. You can moan about it all you want on a forum or to another poster but it's not getting it closer to being legalized now is it? hmm.gif


I'm not risking a thing when I smoke one, police here realize it's a waste of tax payers money to prosecute someone who just smoked a simple joint. Let me ask you this...ever smoked it before?
noyritus
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jul 7 2006, 03:17 AM) [snapback]1260379[/snapback]

Whether it is stupid or not it's still the LAW currently and so if you break it, it makes you a criminal. Simple, really.


Have you ever drove over the speed limit? We're all criminals, criminal. Toke up and we'll be happy criminals. thumbsup.gif
noyritus
QUOTE(Boff @ Jul 8 2006, 01:34 AM) [snapback]1261611[/snapback]

One thing I've thought about before..

People always point out that alchol kills more etc than pot does.

Well thats because its legal to get so of course, lots of people drink it etc.
So if pot was legal, I have a feeling you would see the amount of people who die etc. from it would rise up high (no pun attended) as well.

If the shoe was on the other foot and alchol was banned and pot was legal, I bet you would see the same argument aboot it.


Well your thinking outside the box, but your wrong in this case I assure you and I can absolutley tell you've never smoked pot. Am I right? innocent.gif
coldethyl
QUOTE(Dando Kast @ Jul 14 2006, 12:37 AM) [snapback]1269619[/snapback]

I'm not risking a thing when I smoke one, police here realize it's a waste of tax payers money to prosecute someone who just smoked a simple joint. Let me ask you this...ever smoked it before?


Yes I have. When I was teen, a long time ago. But my point of this whole thing was that it is illegal. Not about why it's illegal or if it should be illegal. Just that it is. People can justify it any way they like but it still is illegal and smoking it is still against the law and that was my point.

QUOTE(noyritus @ Jul 14 2006, 01:03 AM) [snapback]1269634[/snapback]

Have you ever drove over the speed limit? We're all criminals, criminal. Toke up and we'll be happy criminals. thumbsup.gif


Yes I have sped and I have faced the consequences. No, thanks I'll pass on the toke.

Atheist God
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jul 14 2006, 11:34 AM) [snapback]1270043[/snapback]

Yes I have. When I was teen, a long time ago. But my point of this whole thing was that it is illegal. Not about why it's illegal or if it should be illegal. Just that it is. People can justify it any way they like but it still is illegal and smoking it is still against the law and that was my point.
Yes I have sped and I have faced the consequences. No, thanks I'll pass on the toke.


You say because someone smokes weed that they are 'criminals'. Now if the law is in direct violation of your civil rights and the law is unjust what then?

Pot somokers are not criminals they are a group of people unfairly targeted by the governments of the world. Since a culture has spawned around the use of pot it's criminalization is essentially a cultural genocide.

your point makes you a sympathizer of an opressive system that is completely unjust. Can you justify the arrests of pot smokers besides saying it's illegal or are you that uninformed that you like the other sheeple will simply do what your told.

Technically in the US the prohibition of cannabis is a law that breaks the law and it also violates the constitution as well. Up here in canada it violate the Charter of Civil Rights section 2b.

While your entitled to your opinions they are really non-void. What you do not realize is that in order to reform a law you must break it. Look at the black movement for example. It was once illegal for black people to ride in the front of the bus or to use 'white' washrooms. But thanks to people like Rosa Parks who defied these laws they were eventually reformed. Would you advocate that because she at the time commited a criminal act she was a criminal? Or would you say she was a martyr?

We the pot community who advocate legalization are activists in our own right trying to stop the opression of our people which has done nothing but fuel real crime and black markets run by gang organizations and so fourth. It is people like you who do not understand and you know what you will most likely never understand. You would call us criminals and for that you should be ashamed of your self. Your the real criminal here not us.
Kaknelson
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jul 14 2006, 09:34 AM) [snapback]1270043[/snapback]

Yes I have sped and I have faced the consequences. No, thanks I'll pass on the toke.


See if you smoked ganja, you'd likely not be in this situation, as you'd drive slower. wink2.gif

But it's cool, not for everyone i suppose. My mother for instance, for she is an angel, and angels don't smoke.

Atheist God
QUOTE(Kaknelson @ Jul 15 2006, 05:11 AM) [snapback]1270859[/snapback]

See if you smoked ganja, you'd likely not be in this situation, as you'd drive slower. wink2.gif

But it's cool, not for everyone i suppose. My mother for instance, for she is an angel, and angels don't smoke.


First off I don't even drive a car.....Even if i didn't smoke I would'nt have to worry

I have to ask though....

Are you saying you mom is better then a pot smoker simply because she doesn't smoke? Because if you are I will take that as an insult.

My parents smoke as well have great jobs and raised 3 perfectly normal kids to adulthood. My dad always spent time with us and so did my mom. Just because they smoked it doesn't make them bad parents. grin2.gif

Kaknelson
QUOTE(GanjaGuru @ Jul 15 2006, 10:29 PM) [snapback]1271722[/snapback]

First off I don't even drive a car.....Even if i didn't smoke I would'nt have to worry

I have to ask though....

Are you saying you mom is better then a pot smoker simply because she doesn't smoke? Because if you are I will take that as an insult.

My parents smoke as well have great jobs and raised 3 perfectly normal kids to adulthood. My dad always spent time with us and so did my mom. Just because they smoked it doesn't make them bad parents. grin2.gif



My mother is a Registered Nurse, whom raised 5 boys on her own, a very independent woman. They say your mother is the closest thing to God you have, on earth. She has saved my life, i'd have to say many times. She is an angel, and angels don't smoke, nor have a need for it. She has smoked it before, couple of times, but she does not like it, as it makes her very tired. Now, for you to take that as an insult is utterly retarded.

I love the holy herb bredrin, ha, everythings irie. I wasn't even talkin to about this anyways... thumbsup.gif

PS. I could out-smoke you.
eckogangsta
^ Rasta??!?
Dando Kast
QUOTE(Kaknelson @ Jul 16 2006, 03:40 AM) [snapback]1271770[/snapback]

PS. I could out-smoke you.


I'll take that challenge! lol
ladygrim
lol... Busted
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