If aborigines date back 40,000 years unchanged,I was curious as to why they hadn't heard of the god that moses worshipped till 200 years ago.
Thought he might have made his presence known before this.
Not trying to prove he doesn't exist,just genuinely curious bout this one!!!
It seems they might have been around long before the middle east was populated.
The one true living god would have made his presence known wouldn't he???

well, as I'm sure the 'young earthers' would say:

"They were put here by god to fool the unbelievers!"

where is your proof that they date back '40,000' years? please provide us with some links, if they were back then ISOLATION would be the reason why they didn't hear of God

Of course they heard of God. They just have their own revelations and names. All Gods are one.

"In Australian Aboriginal mythology, Altjira is the sky god of the Arrernte. He was the central god of the Dream time (called Alchera by the Aranda) who created the Earth, then retired to the sky.

In art, he is depicted as having an emu's feet. His wives and daughters have dog's feet."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altjira

Yup, sounds like the God of Moses to me.

Hmm, now what to do with all those other Gods they worship

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aboriginal_mythology

I count at least 35 deities in that list. My favourite is "Julana is a lecherous spirit who surprises women by burrowing beneath the sand."

It's common knowledge in australia, we were taught it in school,and its all over the net,just type in 40.000 years and aborigines.
Isolation from what??I don't think even adam and eve were around going on the time frame of the bible...
Thats why i wanted to know why god didn't fill them in as to what he wanted from man...
Maybe adam and eve were aboriginal!!

Altjira hey, well there you go.
Wouldn't that be the oldest name for god we know of.
Still i would like to know if he had the same message for them as moses

Australian Aborigines

Want more Kahrie?

Those of us who know more about anthropology than can be read on wikipedia think a little differently about this. All Gods are One.

Hmm, if you are talking about the Abrahamic God, I don't see how this fits into anthropology. This seems more like a matter of faith.

Got some sources Gideon? You know I would love to seen them I am always look for sources. I find the beliefs of the Australian Aborigines fascinating. I would love to go there and actually talk them about their faith. Anthropology can only go so far one must experience it for themselves.

Sources? I majored in Anthropology for a while. When you study enough cultures, it's all the same. Why should it matter whether Mr. Serpent tempted the woman, or Mr. Rabbit tempted Mrs. Raccoon? Or whether Mary had a virgin pregnancy vs. Alcmena being impregnated by Zeus in the form of rain? No difference; none whatsoever.

I'm with you Gideon Mage

The fact that he has emu's feet is just a symptom of the society he was in. Just like many Christians depict God as a big white-bearded chap, pale skin and all.

thanks. exactly. the emu's feet might mean authority, sagascity, or whatever. All Gods are One.

I understand what you are trying to say bout all gods are one.Is there an echo in here
That aside there are people who believe in the one and only true living god.
Whose message seems to be similar across the board in civilisations dating back approximatley the last 10 000 years.
I was wondering why the aborigines had not heard of him till 200 years ago.
And there civilisation is at the minimum 5 times older.
There are tribes alive in africa today who have feet just like an emu so i don't think that was symbolism.
You seem to just want to categorize it and move on.I think there is more to it personally.

I have had some Anthropology myself in my first drunken round of college. I never grow tired of the endless verity of the mind of man. Nor do I inject my own beliefs upon another culture. That is the mistake of the white man. One must approach each culture with the open mind of a child or you only get a reflection of you own. In my Path of Druidry the study of Anthropology is a must. I was hoping you might know of a good book on aborigines, as my knowledge of them is limited, but I guess not.

Only until my recent job have i learned about aboriginal culture (by visiting numerous of their centres) and i truely respect their beliefs. Before hand i knew little but now i understand and respect where they came from. Many people say the Aboriginies have nothing to show- they lived for 40,000 years and had nothing to show - the reason aboriginies didnt build buildings is mainly because they believed that they belonged to the land and that the land didnt belong to them.

The Aboriginies believe in God and they do believe in a God that created the Earth. They believed in a God that created our plants, animals, oceans and sky...basically similar to the account of Genesis. A lot of their stories come from their dream time- they believed in ancestral spirits and had plant and animal totems much like the American Indians- but they did believe in a single creator that built the land and animals for the people...Then they had "sub Gods" for certain sacred sites.

Thanks Ramster. That was enlighting.

Found this intresting...

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I am interested to know how the aboriginal people got to Australia. I am familiar with the 'out of Africa' theory, that the ancestors of all humanity originated in sub-saharan Africa. I can see how people would have migrated to everywhere else in the world except Australia, as everywhere else can be reached on foot. Did the aboriginies have boats that long ago?


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Expert: John Shea
Date: 6/13/2006
Subject: How did the aboriginies get to Australia?

Question.....I am interested to know how the aboriginal people got to Australia. I am familiar with the 'out of Africa' theory, that the ancestors of all humanity originated in sub-saharan Africa. I can see how people would have migrated to everywhere else in the world except Australia, as everywhere else can be reached on foot. Did the aboriginies have boats that long ago?


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Australia was populated by a dispersal of humans who left Northeast Africa, probably around 50,000-100,000 years ago. This is most strongly suggested by studies of variation among recent human DNA. There is not a lot of archaeological evidence for this dispersal because a lot of the coastline of south Asia has been flooded by sea level rise over the last 20,000 years. There are, however, archaeological sites in New Guinea and New Ireland in excess of 40,000 years that suggest that by that time humans had effective watercraft capable of voyages in the tens of kilometers. (New Guinea and New Ireland are to the East of "Wallace's Line" a biogeographic frontier consisting of a deep trench that has not separated the islands east of it from mainland Eurasia for tens of millions of years.
The oldest evidence for a human presence in Australia dates to around 35,000-40,000 years ago. Just to be clear, though, this dispersal was probably not a case of planned expeditions like the European colonization, but rather small movements of hunter-gatherer-fisher communities played out over prolonged time periods. Need a quick overview? Josephine Flood's Archaeology of the Dreamtime is a good read. For more authoritative overviews see Johan Kamminga and John Mulvaney's Prehistory of Australia.
Aborigines in Australia had relativley simple watercraft at the time Europeans encountered them, but it is always possible that more complex ocean-faring technologies were abandoned in favor of a focus on more terrestrial resources in recent time periods.


Intresting eh?? -- http://experts.about.com/q/Anthropology-22...s-Australia.htm

Hmm?? There are tribes in Africa who have feet shaped like emu feet? What?

Interesting conversation, but that just threw me.

We westerners have subgods, too, but we call them angels.

Ostrich footed people.
Wadamo tribe and the Kalanga tribe of Zimbabwe and Bostwana.
Modern medical calls the condition 'Ectrodactyly'.
My point was that those images may not be symbolism.

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um just because it says in a book that they are 40,000 years old doesn't make it the truth i meant actually evidence e.g. carbon dating etc

carbon dating has already proven they are that old and older.

o.k thank-you

Monotheism is only 5000y and it was limited to the middle east. So there was no way how the aborigines could know about Moses and friends.