i think aliens exist because it would be arrogant to think we're the only life in the universe because it is that big what do you think about it?

They do.

In your opinion.



There's nothing arrogant about not believing in aliens, it's impossible to say if they exist or not based on what we know so far.

They do.

Yes, they exist. It's sort of a foregone conclusion. The mystery is whether or not we'll ever find them.

Oh, I must agree.. there must be life out there..! I also think they are here watching us..!

yes they exist. yes they are here watching us. yes they are here living with us. after all if their not living here with us. how do you explain the underground bases and underground cities. that's just the thing you can't.

have you seen these things? or isit just more theory crafting

Yes. I also believe that Aliens exist, I agree with you it would be arrogant to think were the only life in the universe. Surely somewhere in the vast universe something has developed in millions of years.

Do they believe we exist?

We could be so unlucky that other species live so far away that it would take milions of years to reach the closest. Maybe the only way to make contact is telepathicly. Or maybe they are already dining at McDonalds around the corner. Who knows.

no i've never seen these things physically but in a dream i have been to one. actually it was diulce underground base. but in the dream i didn't see any aliens. i probably wasn't like way down there in the base i probably was on the upper levels were the aliens aren't seen. and it's not theory crafting ethier. why what's your point. why are you asking me this question.

yup i believe there are aliens out there....but i dont believe they have visited us

I've done LOADS of things in dreams but that doesn't make them true. Unless I have a kid running around somewhere that looks just like Johnny Depp.....

LMAO....god, you sound like my old roomate. She damn near had an orgasm during the first half-hour of "The Libertine."
It is arrogant to think we are alone and unique in the universe, but not surprising when you stop and think of those that believe we are.
But it is also arrogant to think they give a flying crap about us, especially to the point of building bases to do everything to us from sodomy with a Cuisinart to gene splicing.
Yes, there is life on other planets. Maybe they are interested in us, maybe not. And maybe we will never meet them. No one really knows.

DEFINATELY.

They came way before Roswell. Most of the cover-ups have been amazingly successful. I believe grays have gone, may have left clones, breeds, "Nords" or other human trainees to follow through with report gathering.

i didn't say that just because i had a dream about going to an underground base means that therefore it must be real. all i said was that i've had a dream about being at an underground base. i didn't say anything of it actually happening in real life because i had a dream about it.

I agree on all counts.
I can be set off just seeing an ad for The Libertine.... Anyway I know what you mean. It's arrogant of us to think we're the only life in the universe and it's also arrogant of us to think that anyone would care about us one way or the other. We humans can't win.



Well I guess you implied that. Chill out.

Why does everyone say that? Last I knew we haven't discovered everything that there is to know about wormholes.

Thats where worms come out of ground from. Right. Wormholes are just a theory.

this what i think anyway that theres life out there whether the've been to earth or not well thats a different question

If it weren't for certain overlapping events and circumstances, we might well know the answer to that question. Wtih the advent of two world wars, breakthroughs on the Standard Model and quantum mechanics, outer space research and exploration, television and popular mass media, and programs like Mutually Assured Destruction, it is easy to understand why ufo related issues do not develop.

Those issues might include certain weapons, and delivery systems that we are better off not knowing about. High energy physics probably has a certain closed loop on some topics, which could relate as well to theoretical aspects regarding ufos.

i believe alien life exists in the universe, but i dont make the claim they do. i think alien life is complex but not intelligent. we might be the only ones with intelligence, and the rest are equal to animal life

I believe there is life out there, but it is more common as microbial or simple life...like on Earth...Somewhere in the universe there COULD be another intelligent race...But they never visited us...If the rash of UFO sightings and abductions are true...every planet we turn to should have an intelligent lifeform...

Don't worry what other people think mac..! I often dream of human type entities that tell me that they are from a place far from Earth..! I know that they are not physically here..but are they here..talking to me..? Only I know that question..!

i think that comment deserves more ...........and a

Evolving Humans Turning into ET's.
http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=1368570

Glad I made you laugh..!!!

You know what they say.."Little things please little minds"..! I bet you are so overjoyed when you have to visit the bathroom..?!?!

You fear the unknown ..in your shoot to kill policy..!

I never said it was true what I said and I never said it was not..don't knock what you don't know...charlatan..!!!

Ow man, the ET's are sleeping. Hope to see some action outside of the spaceship today. Looks very interesting up there. >> Contact Live ET broadcast. delay 1 min <<

lol i think more of these
and just a couple

I am so overjoyed that I can make you laugh so much..!! You know.. you should not hogg that canister of laughing gas all to yourself..??

You know the brain is so complex..I don't think we truely understand what secrets it holds..? It is very much material yet it is not..? Why can dreams be so complex and obscure..? Fascinating..!!!

You're right, it'd be pretty dumb to think out of millions of planets in thousands of galaxies that we're the only intelligent life forms.

They may exist, but we have no proof. ZERO. It is true that the Universe is so vast, that the odds are they are out there, but we must put things into perspective. There is no real, substantial evidence of them existing at this time.

Jeeze..I give up..? Well if you can't beat them join them..



You know what..? I feel like a new man..?

lol thats it

We have no proof but that doesn't mean they don't existe! Anyway I'm convinced that an extraterrestrial entity exists somewhere... I mean, how did life appear on earth? Most of the scholars believe life appeared earlier than it should have on Earth. That's why some say that DNA came from outta space in a meteorite, experiments have even proven that DNA could travel through space and not be affected in any way. So if there is life out there, it is most likely to be insect life form.

That is an incorrect assessment if you are unable to prove UFOs as those of mankind.




Question for you. Were the following UFOs, ours or those of ET?

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Objects Observed Following MX 776A Test on 27 April 1950 (Document)


1. According to conversation between Col. Baynes and Capt. Bryant, the following information is submitted directly to Lt. Albert.

2. Film from station P10 was read, resulting in azimuth and elevation angles being recorded on four objects. In addition, size of image on film was recorded.

3. From this information, together with a single azimuth angle from station M7, the following conclusions were drawn:

* The objects were at an altitude of approximately 150,000 ft.

* The objects were over the Holloman range between the base and Tularosa Peak.

* The objects were approximately 30 feet in diameter

* The objects were traveling at an undeterminable, yet high speed.

(signed) Wilbur L. Mitchell Mathematician Data Reduction Unit



http://brumac.8k.com./WhiteSandsProof/WhiteSandsProof.html
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if any one knew that question then they would be I.F.Os , there called ufo,s because there unidentified

Can you PROVE that these are extraterrestrial? Is there Absolute Proof of ET that you know of? Am I missing something? There is NO PROOF of ET. Period. Very intriguing stuff, but there are other explanations as well as ET. Look, I have photographed UFO's personally, and seen many others. But the fact is there has not been a truly credible encounter of the 3rd kind. Sorry.

Of course I can prove it with the data evidence without going into my own UFO experience in Vietnam, which was not revealed to the public by the Air Force. It is just a matter of using the process-of-elimination. There are tons and tons of data evidence that prove beyond any doubt that some artirficial UFOs are not ours, not to mention the Air Force's EOTS, which specifically stated that some UFOs are "interplanetary spaceships."

Here's some of that data that excludes an artificial UFO as that of any conventional aircraft. The data was released by the Belgian Air Force and is data from that of an F-16's radar in STT mode. No aircraft in history can mimic such performance as listed below and the data is straight-to-the-point. The radar video was also presented at an international press conference called by the Belgian government. I want to also point out that you cannot make any determination whether there has been encounters of the "3rd Kind or not. Just because you haven't experienced an 3rd Kind encounter doesn't automatically exclude those who have.

Were you aware of the federal ET Law? You could have been fined $5000.00 for shaking hands with ET.

http://www.qtm.net/~geibdan/et-law.html
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Here is the transcript of one of the contacts:

Seconds after Heading Speed Altitude lock-on (degrees) (knots) (feet)

00 200 150 7000

01 200 150 7000

02 200 150 7000

03 200 150 7000

04 sharp 200 acceleration 150 6000

05 turn 270 = 22 g 560 6000

06 270 560 6000

07 270 570 6000

08 270 560 7000

09 270 550 7000

10 210 560 9000

11 210 570 10000

12 210 560 11000

13 210 570 10000

14 270 770 7000

15 270 770 6000

16 270 780 6000

17 270 790 5000

18 290 1010 4000

19 290 1000 3000

20 290 990 2000

21 290 990 1000

22 300 990 0000 22.5 300 980 0000 Break lock

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Let's call them what NORAD calls them. "Fast Walkers." Let's also characterize one group by what they are.

[1. Metallic saucer-shaped domed flying objects that range in size from 30 feet to over 2000 feet in diameter, which can conduct 40+ G maneuvers at multiple mach numbers within the Earth's atmosphere.]

Since some UFOs have been identified as such, then we can place those flying objects in the 'IFO' catagory and since we also know that conventional aircraft cannot conduct such maneuvers and stay intact, then it is safe to assume that the objects were not those of mankind, but if they were, then the question would be placed forward as to how mankind acquired such flying vehicles with such advanced technology. I guess we would have to go back to the Roswell incident since scientist and Air Force officers at Wright-Patterson AFB stated that the Roswell material didn't come from Earth and that fact, according to one of Wrigtht-Patterson's own commanding generals.

It was recently revealed that General Ramey knew that the Roswell incident involved ET and his flying saucer. The Roswell Provost Marshal, Edwin Easley, whose troops were responsible for recovering the Roswell crash remains, had revealed just before he died that the Roswell incident did in fact involve alien beings and it wouldn't have taken several cargo flights to fly a typical weather balloon to Wright-Patterson AFB to find out what it was yet the Air Force was able to pull it's cover-up scheme through anyway.

Yes, they do. Why would there be a whole bunch of other solar system, galaxys, planets, moons, ect... There are other people in other planets far far away from here just stuck like us in their low technology trying to reach others too like us. They probably dont beleive that others are in this world just like some of us dont beleive. Look at all these ufo spheres or round things appearing in the sky and the crop circles. Those crop circles are the kind of language they use to communicate. The thing is it why they give us that language that we cant understand much. I ask myself that. Those extreme blackouts that happen in large cities and have reports of ufos being over there could because of the ufos using that power supply since I doubt they use gasoline for aircraft. They probably use energy sources like sun or electricty and convert it into some energy. The people who dont beleive in ufos than why do you believe in god, saints, ghosts, or some other thing people call bizarre or some other name. All you guys just wait. One day we will all have the truth and you will be sorry for your mis-whatever and you will ask for mercy. It will be too late for you to be forgiven. Its how life is though so ignorant.

This is amazing... you actually saw it with your own eyes? *completely jealous*
The ET law really made me laugh...



LMFAO God is the force that started the Big Bang, whatever that force is, it's greater than anything else. I guess that what we call God. Consequently, there's no "God created us in His own image", that's why extraterrestrials do exist. But I still don't think they ever paid us a visit, I mean there's gotta be another explanation for all this UFO and unidentified metallic stuff.

My sighting at Phan Rang airbase, Vietnam in 1968 was similar to the following UFO event over Nha Trang airbase, Vietnam in 1966 and the amazing thing about it all is the Air Force never told the public about UFOs over Vietnam. Once you witness what I saw, you will never forget it and that is why I disagree with those who claim there is no evidence of ET visitation because they are here already and the government knows it.


http://www.nicap.dabsol.co.uk/nhatrang.htm


And, then there was General Brown’s comment in regards to UFOs over Vietnam.


http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Crete/9923/quotes.html

Can you imagine people receiving bills in the mail for $5000.00 or being taken into custody because they touched a meteor that was on display at a museum? That law probably had the UFO abductees scrambling for the hills. Sounds far-fetched but not as far-fetched as the Air Force's claim that ET beings that were seen in 1947, were accident victims of 1956 and 1959--not to mention the six-foot test dummies of the 1950's that the Air Force claimed were mistaken for the 4-foot aliens of the 1940's.

Somewhere along the line, some folks failed in high school but I guess their high schools allowed them to graduate anyway because they were able to read their own names on their diplomas, or they were part of a plot to hide the truth from the public.

LMFAO Yeah I totally agree with you... If you wanna tell a lie, tell a plausible and smart one.

I belive there are other life they may be more inteligent they may not But they for sure havent been here

I have to disagree with you that they (aliens) haven't been here because I saw a UFO myself back in 1968. For me, and my compatriots, the question as to whether we are alone or not, has been answered.

Afterwards, I began to research UFOs and was shocked at what I was uncovering. I found that the Air Force had already admitted that some UFOs were "interplanetary spaceships" according to the Air Force's EOTS, ATIC, Wright-Patterson AFB, 1948 and its 1952 Intelligence report. Then, I found that the U.S. Army had a specialized unit whose mission was initiated to recover downed UFOs and used Project Moon Dust and Operation Blue Fly to support its recoveries of 'flying saucers.' The amazing thing about it all is that the U.S. Army confirmed the existence of that unit, which was known as the Interplanetary Phenomenon Unit. So what we have here is that the U.S. Army admitted to a unit whose sole mission was to recover 'flying saucers.'

Now, we have high ranking military, government, and intelligence officials worldwide stating that ET visitation is, and has been, a reality. Up to 1/3 of the Colorado's Study remain unexplained and in one case, it published the following in regards to the 1956 Lakenheath UFO encounter where a UFO paced an RAF fighter plane for 10 minutes while ground radar tracked it. The Colorado report said of this case that the "probability that at least one genuine UFO was involved appears to be fairly high." (Bantam, 248-256).

Of course it was considered "fairly high" because we didn't have conventional aircraft in 1956 that could fly at 4000 mph and beyond as the Lakenheath UFO's velocity was recorded.

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1956 Lakenheath UFO Encounter

"On a pleasant August evening in 1956, the night-watch supervisor at the Lakenheath, England, Radar Air Traffic Control Center (RATCC), a U.S. Air Force noncommissioned officer, was startled by a telephone call from the Bentwaters GCA (Ground Controlled Approach) radar installation (see map) asking, "Do you have any targets on your scopes traveling at 4000 mph?" Thus began one of the strangest and most disturbing radar-visual UFO episodes on record."

http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc629.htm
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To further add, we have the COMETA Report:

http://www.netowne.com/ufos/important/cometa.htm


And, the Disclosure Project:

http://www.disclosureproject.org/


Each year, more and more government and military officials worldwide are coming forward with assertions that ET reality on Earth is a fact and I expect more officials to come forward over the next few years to be followed up by the President of the United States who will then make it official. Sooner or later, everyone will know that ET beings and their spaceships are not only a reality, but they have been around for a very long time on Earth.

Hi,

My first post here.

I'd just say that I agree wholeheartedly with what skyeagle409 is saying. I personally had a close encounter with a UFO in 2002 and am convinced that I was watching something manufactured defy gravity and even take interest in my car that I was sitting in at the time!

It was so dramatic for me that I didn't talk about this to anyone or the people who were with me at the time for over a year , but when I began investigating I was actually suprized to find so much confirming information from the military , media , and other sources. After my experience it was fairly easy for me to recognize the HUGE dis-information campaign that exists regarding the UFO Phenomena.