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thecreeper
well, thoughts?,suggestions
The Skeptic Eric Raven
I think the tiger is only one with a shot for possibly being alive.
thecreeper
QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Jul 9 2006, 04:07 PM) [snapback]1263539[/snapback]

I think the tiger is only one with a shot for possibly being alive.

I agree,and its my personal fav in cryptozoology
Schnaffler
Tasmanian Tiger is about the best bet.
thecreeper
I made a list of reasons why I think the tassy tiger is alive
1. sheep have been found with bite marks in there skulls that match the teeth of tassy skulls
2. this is the second time they have been reported extinct
3. the number of reable eyewitness's is very large
ex infernis
I say the Tasmin tiger
CommieX
At lot of people, myself included, believe that the Megatherium or a relative may still be alive in South or Central America.
frogfish
The Tazzy Tiger is the only one with a chance of existing...
thecreeper
the bite marks they find in sheep are pretty much proof postive that it is real
MadEyePixie
I'm jumping on the tiger bandwagon here too.
thecreeper
also the goverment down there is offering money ito anyone who can provide soild proof of one alive, tells you something
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(thecreeper @ Jul 9 2006, 05:50 PM) [snapback]1263718[/snapback]

also the goverment down there is offering money ito anyone who can provide soild proof of one alive, tells you something

Yeah. They know they will not have to come up with money.
thecreeper
QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Jul 9 2006, 07:07 PM) [snapback]1263740[/snapback]

Yeah. They know they will not have to come up with money.

no, trust me they will
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(thecreeper @ Jul 9 2006, 06:12 PM) [snapback]1263749[/snapback]

no, trust me they will

Okay I will trust you. rolleyes.gif
thecreeper
QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Jul 9 2006, 07:17 PM) [snapback]1263754[/snapback]

Okay I will trust you. rolleyes.gif

oh hah hah mad.gif , but seriously it is only a matter of time before a tasmain tiger is found alive
Kahrie
i have to agree with the tasmanian tiger as well there have been so many photos, footprints, hair samples and animal carcasses (of it's victims tongue.gif ) that have been found to indicate a possibility of it being alive.

however, i come from NZ and over the years there has been some Moa sightings (including photos) as well so you never know! also here there is a bird that's only native to new zealand called the Laughing Owl http://www.nzbirds.com/birds/whekau.html that has been said to have been exstinct since the late 1800's but people are still hearing their crys throughout the dense, thick bush of NZ (there have been some recordings of the noises as well) to indicate that it could be alive as well thumbsup.gif
Moro
If any chance at all definetly the tasmanian tiger! Quite an interesting animal or creature!

They did hunt the thing down to extinction right?
frogfish
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They did hunt the thing down to extinction right

Yes, like they almost did to Wolves in N. America...
Moro
QUOTE(frogfish @ Jul 9 2006, 10:39 PM) [snapback]1263952[/snapback]

Yes, like they almost did to Wolves in N. America...


Well then i suppose it could be quite possible that they could have missed a few that could have carried on and started a smaller generation of them!
Kahrie
QUOTE(Moro Bumbleroot @ Jul 10 2006, 02:42 PM) [snapback]1263955[/snapback]

Well then i suppose it could be quite possible that they could have missed a few that could have carried on and started a smaller generation of them!



the 'last' one died in a zoo, but there could be a possibility that they are still alive
frogfish
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Well then i suppose it could be quite possible that they could have missed a few that could have carried on and started a smaller generation of them!

Thing is, a few thylacines are not enough for a viable population...They would of died out eventually...There needs to be more...
Moro
QUOTE(frogfish @ Jul 9 2006, 10:47 PM) [snapback]1263962[/snapback]

Thing is, a few thylacines are not enough for a viable population...They would of died out eventually...There needs to be more...


So they thrived in packs like wolves?
dragonfly1047
I dont really think any of them are alive but I wish unicorns were alive.
frogfish
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So they thrived in packs like wolves?

No, but they needed more than 15 animals in an area to have a viable population..
Moro
QUOTE(frogfish @ Jul 9 2006, 10:54 PM) [snapback]1263971[/snapback]

No, but they needed more than 15 animals in an area to have a viable population..


I understand thanks frogfish!
Kahrie
QUOTE(frogfish @ Jul 10 2006, 02:54 PM) [snapback]1263971[/snapback]

No, but they needed more than 15 animals in an area to have a viable population..



Australia is large so there is no reason why there couldn't have been a a large supply of them else where
Moro
That very well might be!
But after all these years all we get is the occasional sighting of what might be a Thylacine!
If there were enough to be concidered a population i'm pretty sure they would have been discovered by now!
psyche101
QUOTE(Moro Bumbleroot @ Jul 10 2006, 01:17 PM) [snapback]1264003[/snapback]

That very well might be!
But after all these years all we get is the occasional sighting of what might be a Thylacine!
If there were enough to be concidered a population i'm pretty sure they would have been discovered by now!



Gotta agree with you strongly there Moro Bumbleroot. I actually live here, and know quite a number of the indigenous population. If the Australian borigines say

No more tiger

then, they are all gone. 100% definitely not on the mainland, been gone for a very long time there. Nobody understands this country like it's naitive people.

An interesting point is that man might have "finished the job off" (for want of a better phrase) but the Thylacine had been reducing in breeds and number for the last few tens of thousands of years. By the look of it, the only way it would have continued to survive for an extended period whould have been with Mans help. Bizzare considering their opposition I always thought.
capoeiranger
I go for small dinosaur. Did Komodo dragons fall into this catagory?
Marak
I would say a type of dinosour is still alive, maybe in a very remote area, there are some reports of dinosors like the lech ness monster and Mokele-mbembe.
thecreeper
QUOTE(Moro Bumbleroot @ Jul 9 2006, 10:38 PM) [snapback]1263951[/snapback]

If any chance at all definetly the tasmanian tiger! Quite an interesting animal or creature!

They did hunt the thing down to extinction right?

well, keeep in mind that this is not the first time they have been declared extinct
frogfish
WHo the heck said small dinosaur?

QUOTE
I go for small dinosaur. Did Komodo dragons fall into this catagory

Monitor lizards are not dinosaurs

QUOTE
I would say a type of dinosour is still alive, maybe in a very remote area, there are some reports of dinosors like the lech ness monster and Mokele-mbembe

The Loch Ness moster isn't a dinosaur, its a myth...Mokele mbembe could be a rhino...

There is absolutely no way dinosaurs can still exist.
thecreeper
QUOTE(frogfish @ Jul 10 2006, 08:14 AM) [snapback]1264336[/snapback]

WHo the heck said small dinosaur?
There is absolutely no way dinosaurs can still exist.

yes.gif , I just added dinos cause I could not think of anything else.
Ring Tailed Lemur
[attachmentid=26771]look this is a recent photo of the Tasmanian Tiger
thecreeper
QUOTE(Ring Tailed Lemur @ Jul 10 2006, 10:02 AM) [snapback]1264455[/snapback]

[attachmentid=26771]look this is a recent photo of the Tasmanian Tiger

cool more proof,how long do think it will be before a live on is found 1 year, 5,10,20?
Celumnaz
voted some of them cause we never know what we don't know and it usually happens just after someone says something's impossible something comes along to suggest otherwise so....

I think some of them may be alive and it doesn't affect the cost of my marshmellows yet.
Raptor
QUOTE(thecreeper @ Jul 10 2006, 05:08 PM) [snapback]1264605[/snapback]

cool more proof,how long do think it will be before a live on is found 1 year, 5,10,20?


Even if they do still exist, there can only be a very small amount of them; they could end up going extinct within the very near future before they're rediscovered.

I'd say that if they are still alive, we should know within a decade.

(I voted for 'a small dinosaur' just for the hell of it, I'm gonna get my pet stegosaurus one way or another. happy.gif )
snuffypuffer
I voted for the Moa. Because I want to see one, I think they'll look like Big Bird. yes.gif
Hitchhiker
*sigh* how i wish they all were around. It would have been amazing seeing a Moa or an Elephant bird
frogfish
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I'm gonna get my pet stegosaurus one way or another.

Keep on thinking that, until it accidently impales you tongue.gif
fletch
most likly the Tasmanian Tiger out of those few.
psyche101
QUOTE(thecreeper @ Jul 11 2006, 02:08 AM) [snapback]1264605[/snapback]

cool more proof,how long do think it will be before a live on is found 1 year, 5,10,20?


Wow you are a hopeful fellow!!

Never. It will not be found. Think about it - who is it that spots the supposed creature

Tourists mostly. Germans, English tourists. Real authorities on Thylacines hey. no.gif

The Australian Aborigine says no way. How can anyone question the Australian Aborigine about Australia and what's in it ????????

BTW the back legs in that picture are not thick enouh at the top, or quite the right shape. I would say mistaken identity. Somewhat pale in colour too. That's possible for an animal pelt though.

Interesting to know it was only declared officially extinct in 1986. Sounds like they had a good look to make sure first. If it did exist, I'd be getting together every tracker I ever met. There is a $1.25 Million reward !!!! The cloning project stoppped for a bit, then took off again, wonder how that is going. Shame David Fleay didn't find some. I have taken my kids to Fleay Fauna Sanctuary many times. I would have seen one by now!!

Here is an excellent source of information on Thylacines.

I live here and they don't seem so likely from a local standpoint to me. Spent a good chunk of my life in the Australian Outback too thumbsup.gif
Conspiracy
the tazzy tiger i think is the only one, but dodo also could have a chance, considering the island its from is barely explored or so i heared
Astrocreep
I belive that the thylacine is still around in small populations in Tasmania and Australia and that Argentavis Magnificens( large vulture like bird which I believe to be the source of thunderbird sightings) is still around.
I also believe there is a developed civilation of gnomes living in the bowels of my room.
psyche101
QUOTE(Astrocreep @ Jul 12 2006, 03:28 PM) [snapback]1266843[/snapback]

I belive that the thylacine is still around in small populations in Tasmania and Australia and that Argentavis Magnificens( large vulture like bird which I believe to be the source of thunderbird sightings) is still around.
I also believe there is a developed civilation of gnomes living in the bowels of my room.


LOL, had me going there for a line. laugh.gif Damn right. Thylacines have not been on the Mainland for a real long time. Tassie. Nah. Lovely thought though. Funny how all the out of towners are convinced. Come and have a look yourself I reckon grin2.gif


Nobody knows how the cloning project take two is going??
maracova
Ok I'm going to be on a bit of a rant here.I'm from tassie and I do think they exist.Many parts of tasmania no man can tread.The terrain is too rugged and harsh.But to the tassie tiger...It's it's habitat.As for the aboriganies ,there are no full blooded natives left sad.gif white man murdered them too.Now the tassie devil is headed down the same path,but this time a disease caused from spraying crops.(tassie tigers were shot dead on site for killing sheep).As a tasmanian all this sickens me.When will we learn?I think the tigers headed for the mountains away from man.It's all rather sad.
psyche101
QUOTE(maracova @ Jul 12 2006, 05:06 PM) [snapback]1266899[/snapback]

Ok I'm going to be on a bit of a rant here.I'm from tassie and I do think they exist.Many parts of tasmania no man can tread.The terrain is too rugged and harsh.But to the tassie tiger...It's it's habitat.As for the aboriganies ,there are no full blooded natives left sad.gif white man murdered them too.Now the tassie devil is headed down the same path,but this time a disease caused from spraying crops.(tassie tigers were shot dead on site for killing sheep).As a tasmanian all this sickens me.When will we learn?I think the tigers headed for the mountains away from man.It's all rather sad.


Yay w00t.gif ranting fellow countryman. I welcome your ranting. Damn it is slow in here these days. I was even getting happy to see thecreeper till everyone jumped on the poorcreeper bandwagon. Rant baby, rant. Use both heads if you want LOL (No offense meant, Aussie joke for all the protectors out there, by comparison, I am considered a Cane Toad grin2.gif )

No full blooded Tassie naitives thumbsup.gif Still plenty of naitives, and I do not think their tracking skills diminish across the Tasman thumbsup.gif You know, it was not even the Tigers in most cases that killed the sheep. They prefered chickens by far. Dogs were the main sheep killers, the Tiger was merely a scapegoat. We didn't kill all of them either, as some succumbed to a distemper-like disease, however, probably introduced by man, so no doubt the blame for their extinction rests squarely on our shoulders.

Looks like we killed them on the mainland, what's that you say, it was the Dingo. Bet most did not know the Dingo is not an original Aussie.

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Dingos did not arrive in Australia as companions of the original Aborigines around 50,000 years ago, but were probably brought by Austronesian traders much later. A study of dingo mitochondrial DNA published in 2004 places their arrival at around 3000 BC, and suggests that only one small group may be the ancestors of all modern dingos[2].


All I can say to that is ohmy.gif Still spins me out. I was brought up believing it was our naitive dog. Bah humbug apparently. Just ask any Dingo mitochondria thumbsup.gif

David Fleay had a good look for them, and as you would know, he was a very keen and intelligent zoologist (he majored in Zoology, Botany and Education). He could not find any evidence (one possible footprint - not what I call evidence). Although the last one died in 19(36?), it was not declared extinct untill 1986. They gave it a fair go to come forward. Several searches for the elusive marsupial have ended in vain. It has been exrinct from the mainland for at least a thousand years, so chances of reviving the species from there are slim to nothing as well.

Here's another tasty titbit on Thylacines, Dickson's Thylacine in particular.

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Dickson's Thylacine (Nimbacinus dicksoni) was an ancient relative of the modern but extinct Thylacine. It lived approximately 23-16 million years ago in the Miocene period. Nimbacinus dicksoni was about 1.6 ft (50 cm) long. Being a predator, it probably ate birds, small mammals, and reptiles. Like the modern thylacine, it may have been an awkward runner and used stamina to catch prey rather than speed. Fossils have been found in Australia at Riversleigh in north-western Queensland and Bullock Creek in the Northern Territory. The fossils are very well preserved.


I reckon the Tigers did not try to escape man, they were interested in the new food source. Got them killed. I thought curiosity killed the cat?? Plenty moggies still running around. I really do not think they headed for the mountains. One would have shown up by now. Too many experienced have gone looking
and

I reckon anybody is out of their mind if they say they know the country better than an Australian Aboriginal. People reckon they see Thyalcines in WA too. Not there but. Any mainland naitive will tell you that.

Very sad what white man did, that's why I reckon all the injustices should be aimed squarely at the British, not the current residents. I like to hope that the remorse many are feeling now is a sign that we are learning from the massive outragous mistakes of those who have gone before us.
indeed
I believe the tassy tiger are still out their. To many credible sightings from hunter (even from the very people who hunted for them back in the day), respected members of communities etc etc. Just because they aren't on the 6pm news doesn't mean they aren't happening yes.gif

Footprints have been found, even cast and sent to various people (I know of one large collection that a Prof. of natural science sent back down south as he is retiring), locals report hearing the distincive "yips" at night on occasions.

I've spoken to many tasmanians some who have lived their for well over 50 years and most strongly believe.

psyche101 i'm wondering where or what Aboriginals have said they don't exist ?
Jack_of_Blades
Thylacine is most likely
Tooth_and_Claw
QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Jul 9 2006, 09:07 PM) [snapback]1263539[/snapback]

I think the tiger is only one with a shot for possibly being alive.



yeah thats what i choose but .....
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