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Pax Unum
QUOTE(M.A.D @ Sep 29 2006, 09:22 AM) [snapback]1370340[/snapback]

atlantis was made up of islands ,the continate large ones, two i think,what i'm saying is that these large ones were squished together,thets say that the first one is east of the missippi and has the appalations mts in the north it stopes at the st lawerance and all points inbetween.

the second not in any order or anything but is north of the st lawerance with qubec and labad'or.

the smaller islands that are on the edges with the carabbeans islands in the south and the thousand or so that are all over the north.

where do you get that Atlantis was made up of islands? Plato says it was an island larger than Libya and Asia Minor combined, not a collection of islands... dontgetit.gif
M.A.D
QUOTE(Pax Unum @ Sep 29 2006, 03:10 PM) [snapback]1370419[/snapback]

If you're so sure there are traces of an ancient culture on Cape Breton, why aren't you bringing the evidence to National Geographic, or at least the local University? dontgetit.gif


what you don't think this web site is a good place!
M.A.D
QUOTE(Bosanchero @ Sep 29 2006, 02:59 PM) [snapback]1370394[/snapback]

WAKE UP

AMERICA DIDNT DRIFT OVER NIGHT !!! AND ATLANTIS IF IT EVER DID DIDNT EXIST MILLIONS OF YEAS AGO !!!


back to atleast 250,000,000 right after the dust setteled (seperation) of the one into two,

and yes it is a long time ,but within that time there are many migrations of going south and to the four corners of the earth of humanity and the comming back to the one of truth.

Pax Unum
QUOTE(M.A.D @ Sep 29 2006, 12:29 PM) [snapback]1370585[/snapback]

what you don't think this web site is a good place!

did I miss something? when did you present proof that Cape Breton is Atlantis? dontgetit.gif
M.A.D
QUOTE(M.A.D @ Aug 3 2006, 12:52 PM) [snapback]1293371[/snapback]

why one would look at any other place but cape breton as the one place to find atlantis is beyond me .



by giveing you something that is tangable not under water or ice ,past or present right now and to come.
M.A.D
QUOTE(Pax Unum @ Sep 26 2006, 02:29 PM) [snapback]1365889[/snapback]

Atlantis supposedly WAS an island, what do you mean by 'capital island'? Plato says:

do you think Cape Breton is the remains of this mountain? doe's Cape Breton have red, white and black rock? are there ruins of the palace? are the moats and tunnels there?

LINK-> Atlantis


yes i call it the capital island because this island is were the city with the golden gates was in the story and that being the center of atlatean people but it was on the east side of the island .this is of plato and the story.

but still this is just one spot on that island ,in the east right theres still the north ,the south,
and west.

basicaly you would have to go outside the box of plato and his story to see the full picture of the one island that i talk about.
Pax Unum
QUOTE(M.A.D @ Sep 29 2006, 01:56 PM) [snapback]1370717[/snapback]
basicaly you would have to go outside the box of plato and his story to see the full picture of the one island that i talk about.

LOL, I see, disregard what Plato say's, what would HE know... and believe what someone, who can't even figure out how to post pictures to the forum say's... riiight thumbsup.gif

AtlantisRises
QUOTE(M.A.D @ Sep 30 2006, 04:26 AM) [snapback]1370717[/snapback]


basicaly you would have to go outside the box of plato and his story to see the full picture of the one island that i talk about.



If you go outside the "box" Plato created then their is NO Atlantis.

Also have you managed to find any orichalcum.


Because if you could bring some of that to the world then you would be able to prove your story to Montel.

If you could solve the problem of what orichalcum truly was you would solv e innumerable of the worlds mysteries

But you wont because Cape Breton is NOT Poseidon.
Cadetak
I have a question...was Atlantis in any way(maybe by another name) mentioned before Plato's story? Did any other scientist, explorer, or educated person mentiaon or talk about Atlantis(as if it were real) during platos time?

I once heard somewhere that an egyptian king said that "the egyptians learned everything they knew from the atlanteans" and that the mayans i think it was learned there knowledge from white men with golden hair that came of a boat after a flood/natural disaster. I don't know if these are fake or not or if there is any other mentions of Atlantis.
Pax Unum
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Satellite photos of a salt marsh region known as Marisma de Hinojos near the city of Cadiz show two rectangular structures in the mud and parts of concentric rings that may once have surrounded them.

"Plato wrote of an island of five stades (925m) diameter that was surrounded by several circular structures - concentric rings - some consisting of Earth and the others of water. We have in the photos concentric rings just as Plato described," Dr Kuehne told BBC News Online.

Dr Kuehne believes the rectangular features could be the remains of a "silver" temple devoted to the sea god Poseidon and a "golden" temple devoted to Cleito and Poseidon - all described in Plato's dialogue Critias.


LINK-> Satellite images 'show Atlantis'

Does anyone see the concentric rings they claim are visible on the satellite image? I can't...

QUOTE
Quite why a story written 2,500 years ago by the Greek philosopher Plato continues to capture the public imagination is a mystery in itself - a mystery fed by countless books, films, articles, web pages, and now a Disney cartoon. It has spawned a rich populist sub-culture (much of it internet-based) which pits the passions and imaginations of committed 'Atlanteans' against the orthodox analysis of the scientific mainstream.

Part of the contemporary appeal of the Atlantis story has no doubt been fed by scientists. Historians, archaeologists and geologists have also entered the debate to contest the various literary, historical or geographical elements of the story. Currently - following Bernhard Zangger's new book presenting the archaeological case for Troy as the true inspiration for Atlantis - we have the BBC Horizon documentary 'Helike - The Real Atlantis' staking the same claim for the Classical Greek city of Helike. Atlantis, it seems, remains a very bankable media product.


LINK-> Echoes of Plato's Atlantis

Interesting article, IMO...
upperroom
Just came to the end of reading all 28 pages and although i have not got much to add i will say thank you for everyone on this site posting there links and views, i have been educated greatly on a subject that i knew very little about, thanks guys!!

yes.gif yes.gif
AtlantisRises
QUOTE(Cadetak47 @ Oct 1 2006, 04:55 PM) [snapback]1372531[/snapback]

I have a question...was Atlantis in any way(maybe by another name) mentioned before Plato's story? Did any other scientist, explorer, or educated person mentiaon or talk about Atlantis(as if it were real) during platos time?





That is a VERY interesting question.


What is the answer... Maybe

There are people who claim that Atlantis was based roughly on the Island of Thera which was an Egyptian legend. This is strengthened by the fact that Plato claims to have got his information from an Egyptian priest.

However even if this is true, Plato took huge liberties with the story as Atlantis is extremely different to Thera.

So was there mention before. Perhaps but it is still most likely that it was made up by Plato. And the fact that few accounts of Thera still survive means that it will probably never be solved.
M.A.D
QUOTE(Pax Unum @ Sep 29 2006, 08:07 PM) [snapback]1370806[/snapback]

LOL, I see, disregard what Plato say's, what would HE know... and believe what someone, who can't even figure out how to post pictures to the forum say's... riiight thumbsup.gif


no that is not what i'm saying ,what i'm saying if what plato breings to the table is that city in the east of that island he spoke of,and as far as the pictures i need to change programs still to much in the file.

and you don't have to believe me, its the ones that don't say anything you should worrie about.
for all i get is silents and riducule
M.A.D
QUOTE(AtlantisRises @ Sep 30 2006, 11:33 PM) [snapback]1372124[/snapback]

If you go outside the "box" Plato created then their is NO Atlantis.

Also have you managed to find any orichalcum.
Because if you could bring some of that to the world then you would be able to prove your story to Montel.

If you could solve the problem of what orichalcum truly was you would solv e innumerable of the worlds mysteries

But you wont because Cape Breton is NOT Poseidon.


not yet but i think i'm close,and who are you .

you carry the name but what have you brought to this topic but only cape breton is NOT poseidon?

prove me wrong,show me what is right.

you of all who comes on this fourm should have it right put it were you mouth is or fingers.
Pax Unum
QUOTE(M.A.D @ Oct 2 2006, 12:33 PM) [snapback]1374097[/snapback]
and you don't have to believe me

ok, I choose not to... I think you're letting your imagination hijack your ability to reason. how you can think a place, that's not even submerged, halfway around the world from where it's supposed to be, made up of bits and pieces of land that were old when the dinosaurs walked the Earth, and some father/mother pseudo religion concept has anything to do with Atlantis, seems unreasonable...
AtlantisRises
I agree Pax.

Atlantis is a myth. No it isn't even a myth. To call it a myth is like calling Harry Potter or The Lord of the Rings myth.


Atlantis is a fictional place in a book of fiction.


There far more evidence for Middle-Earth then there is for Atlantis
Pax Unum
QUOTE(M.A.D @ Oct 2 2006, 12:33 PM) [snapback]1374097[/snapback]
for all i get is silents and riducule

I apologize if I've ridiculed you, I have asked for some kind of evidence several times, but you just repeat that you're sure Cape Breton is Atlantis, simply because YOU believe it is... there may be some evidence of Indian habitation perhaps, I don't know... I'm pretty sure Cape Breton isn't the place Plato was describing in his stories... if you think you have found something interesting, you should take the evidence to your local university...

BTW, don't mention you think it's Atlantis, you might not be taken seriously... IMO
Vampire_Slayer88
QUOTE(Cadetak47 @ Oct 1 2006, 03:25 AM) [snapback]1372531[/snapback]

I have a question...was Atlantis in any way(maybe by another name) mentioned before Plato's story? Did any other scientist, explorer, or educated person mentiaon or talk about Atlantis(as if it were real) during platos time?

I once heard somewhere that an egyptian king said that "the egyptians learned everything they knew from the atlanteans" and that the mayans i think it was learned there knowledge from white men with golden hair that came of a boat after a flood/natural disaster. I don't know if these are fake or not or if there is any other mentions of Atlantis.



It is said that the Egyptians are the ones who told some guy the story of Atlantis. Then this guy (I'm sorry, his name doesn't come to my mind at the moment) told Plato and Plato then wrote about it. But that is what I have heard.

Whether Atlantis is real or not remains a mystery, but I would love to believe that such a place once existed since it fascinates me so.
M.A.D
well lets take a look at it,he talks about a island in the atlantic i give you an island in the heart of the atlantic and this island do'es have signs of subsiding and has been in the location that plato talks about just beyond the pillars plus there is coal which is prably fire rock,3 types of granite .

and with the waterways of the brad'or lakes and right down to the small hill in the middel of a small plain that they built there temple on which sydney is located on a small plain which the radar base is the hill in the middel and with the mira river would be the east side of the rings and the seal island bridge crosses the west side of the rings .

now this city is located in the east of cape breton and the island that plato talks about is in the eastern part as well.
Pax Unum
QUOTE(M.A.D @ Oct 4 2006, 08:54 AM) [snapback]1376750[/snapback]
has been in the location that plato talks about just beyond the pillars

when exactly was Cape Breton just beyond the pillars? how many years ago? hundreds of thousands, maybe millions? just wondering

BTW, much of the Earths surface has been submerged at one time or another, over the planets life...
M.A.D
QUOTE(AtlantisRises @ Oct 2 2006, 11:19 PM) [snapback]1374654[/snapback]

I agree Pax.

Atlantis is a myth. No it isn't even a myth. To call it a myth is like calling Harry Potter or The Lord of the Rings myth.
Atlantis is a fictional place in a book of fiction.
There far more evidence for Middle-Earth then there is for Atlantis


lets talk about middel earth for sec in finding middel earth you would have to find earth (land) that is in the middle of right,well when you look at the geoligy of cape breton it shows me that it stood at one time in the center of that once mt range that straghted from californa to china placing it at least 35 plus km up and right in the middel.

the cape breton of today is the capstone of this mt remeber there is a story of an island sinking and that is what i'm bringing to the table of life the truth behind this island i call home.
aquatus1
QUOTE(M.A.D @ Oct 4 2006, 02:06 PM) [snapback]1376760[/snapback]

lets talk about middel earth for sec in finding middel earth you would have to find earth (land) that is in the middle of right,well when you look at the geoligy of cape breton it shows me that it stood at one time in the center of that once mt range that straghted from californa to china placing it at least 35 plus km up and right in the middel.

the cape breton of today is the capstone of this mt remeber there is a story of an island sinking and that is what i'm bringing to the table of life the truth behind this island i call home.



I recommend that you re-read both Plato's dialogues, and the Trilogy of the Rings.

Then again, there would be little point. It seems pretty evident that you don't really care either about Atlantis or Middle-Earth, and that your only goal here is to, for some reason beyond my understanding (or interest) tout the superiority of Cape Breton for some religious purpose of yours.

I still haven't seen any geological evidence for what you claim. All you keep saying is that "It's in the rocks." Show me something from ageologist that backs up your claim, or admit that you are talking religion, not evidence.
M.A.D
i'll show what i have when i figure out how or what programs to use to show the picturs of the cape breton highlands ,is there a certan program you need to use or what.

the geological proof for which i go by i got from the local unaversaty c.b.u.

i came across a dr.robert raeside were he and others mapped out the geoligy of cape breton back in 83,84,85.

it was a better understanding of the appalaichians origin,a center of the devonian world
that i could find i'm sorry if you can't find it or who in my story as proof .
AtlantisRises
If you have a digital camera you can take the photos yourself. Save them to your hard-drive as bmp or jpg files.

Then go to www.photobucket.com here you can get an account to host pictures.

From here you can upload your pictures to photobucket (there is a tutorial on the page)

And then it is a simple matter of linking to the photo in your photobucket.

It truly is quite simple.


So now you know what to do i will be waiting for those photos.
M.A.D
QUOTE(AtlantisRises @ Oct 4 2006, 10:47 PM) [snapback]1377500[/snapback]

If you have a digital camera you can take the photos yourself. Save them to your hard-drive as bmp or jpg files.

Then go to www.photobucket.com here you can get an account to host pictures.

From here you can upload your pictures to photobucket (there is a tutorial on the page)

And then it is a simple matter of linking to the photo in your photobucket.

It truly is quite simple.
So now you know what to do i will be waiting for those photos.


well i don't have a digatal camra ,but i'll check this out and get back to you.
Bosanchero
AtlantisRises its a lost cause original.gif
louie
ok so lets presume Atlantis did exist, so apparantly they had a very progressive technology, flying machines etc etc. where did they get this from. And if they obtained it from years through thier culture then they would have a very very old culture, that would mean our timescale of cave men etc etc is wrong , and the bible would be out the window because of the adam and eve part. any thoughts
pinkgrapefruit
QUOTE(louie @ Oct 5 2006, 06:45 PM) [snapback]1378729[/snapback]

ok so lets presume Atlantis did exist, so apparantly they had a very progressive technology, flying machines etc etc. where did they get this from. And if they obtained it from years through thier culture then they would have a very very old culture, that would mean our timescale of cave men etc etc is wrong , and the bible would be out the window because of the adam and eve part. any thoughts

Exactly... This is why there is so little evidence of ancient civilisations!
louie
QUOTE(pinkgrapefruit @ Oct 6 2006, 02:46 AM) [snapback]1379039[/snapback]

Exactly... This is why there is so little evidence of ancient civilisations!

so are you thinking what im thinking ... that the large religous groups and governments are aware of the existence of these advanced past cultures and are repressing the information because it would upset and tear apart thier now solid theory structures, and in the process keep the unimaginable power they have over the masses......
Withoutnight
Been there, nothing special.
louie
QUOTE(Withoutnight @ Oct 6 2006, 04:38 PM) [snapback]1379810[/snapback]

Been there, nothing special.

where atlantis,, what was it like .....
or do you mean u were a government that had unimaginable power over the masses, if thats so,,, yeah ive been there too. disgust.gif disgust.gif disgust.gif disgust.gif disgust.gif
Jjbreen
QUOTE(M.A.D @ Oct 4 2006, 09:44 AM) [snapback]1376968[/snapback]

i'll show what i have when i figure out how or what programs to use to show the picturs of the cape breton highlands ,is there a certan program you need to use or what.

the geological proof for which i go by i got from the local unaversaty c.b.u.

i came across a dr.robert raeside were he and others mapped out the geoligy of cape breton back in 83,84,85.

it was a better understanding of the appalaichians origin,a center of the devonian world
that i could find i'm sorry if you can't find it or who in my story as proof .



Hey sounds really interesting!! yes.gif

Is there a link that you know of to see this information??

J - ph34r.gif
Bokonontheancient
QUOTE(louie @ Oct 6 2006, 05:36 AM) [snapback]1379808[/snapback]

so are you thinking what im thinking ... that the large religous groups and governments are aware of the existence of these advanced past cultures and are repressing the information because it would upset and tear apart thier now solid theory structures, and in the process keep the unimaginable power they have over the masses......


What proof is there that this "Lemuria" "Atlantis" and others existed? Only Plato's dialouges cover Atlantis, but other than that there is no evidence of an account for atlantis. If there was an Atlantis continent or whatnot.. wouldn't we have seen at least a trace of their high civilization? You have to remember that up until the domestication of plants and animals, that supporting large populations in a city or an area would have been impossible. In order to support the population there would have to have been people to harvest a surplus of food for the rest of the population. Only then can specialization occur. Because if there if not people having a surplus of food to provide for themselves and other people, then everyone has to worry about supporting themselves by farming or foraging. Thus, if there is no surplus, then technology advancement such advanced as Atlantis was said to have, as well as artisans and specialization in other things cannot occur. Atlantis is supposedly put before the time of the Neolithic Revolution and is dated to approx. 12,500 B.C.E.. But how is a civilization able to function without the domestication of plants and animals and surplus of food? Answer: It Cannot. That's why I think that Atlantis is a civilization that Plato thought was advanced for its time. But I think he was exaggerating the time period. If you want to read more about these ideas.. I suggest you read the two brilliant books by Jared Diamond, Guns, Germs, and Steel and Collapse.

Thanks, Bokonon
crystal sage
http://atlantis.haktanir.org/ch8.html

Chichen Itza, advanced a new theory: a powerful civilization lived in Atlantis till 10,000 BC when the water sank the island. It is being said that the Atlanteans colonized the shores of Africa, Mediterranean Sea, and America, so if the Atlanteans perished, their heritage lived on through the people of their colonies. The Atlantean influence on local population was significant. This is how we could explain the Mayan, Egyptian, and Cretan enigmas, the existence of the white population in West Africa and Mediterranean. (eg. Guanchos in Canaries).



Henry Breuil mentioned the existence of a white race (tall white people with yellow or red hair) living in South Africa. The paintings at Namib and Bradberg are cases in point, and they bear similarities with the Egyptian and Cretan paintings. Scientists found skulls belonging to the European race, dating from 8-6,000 BC.

The painting "The White Lady" (Bradberg - South Africa) is 3-5,000 years old. It depicts a red-haired white woman and a man wearing Cretan clothes (boots, pants, sword). They are surrounded by black people and animals.

In 1902, William Niven found an unknown town on Mexican shore and its surrounding waters. The buildings look like the ones from the Roman Empire's era.

In 1970, another expedition was made to the Canaries, in order to study the origin of the islands and of the Guanchos (Guanches or Guanchis) tribes who once occupied these seven islands. The Guanchos were massacred in the end of 15th century. On Maroc's shore, they discovered tribes of white people, very different from the Arabian population. The writings found here are close in style to the Mayan's. The tribe dealt with the death in the Egyptian style, mummifying them, and let burring them in graves or pyramids. On De Hierro Island, Mayan or Egyptians-like pyramids were found. The Guanchos didn't know navigation, however, so the question is, how come the resemblance?

In Lanzarote Island (Canaries), scientists found ruins and stairs underwater. The stairs were built of huge stones. Similar ruins are to be found in the waters surrounding Fuerteventura Island.



At Chaco Canyon lived the Anasazis. The roads here link twelve cities and their length reaches 60 - 100 km. However, it is known that the Anasazis didn't have vehicles and they haven't even invented the wheel. Still, the roads are 10 meters wide, and the rocks used to build them could cover 100,000 square kilometers. The population didn't use the roads for long, since they appeared around 1175 AD and disappeared by 1250 AD.



The Indian fortresses of North America amaze through their perfect geometrical shape, functionality, and efficiency. They were dated back to the 1st century AD, but they were superior to any European fortress buot before the Renaissance period.

"The Wall of the Big Snake", in Ohio, has impressive measurements. Its height is 15 meters, the width is 3.5 meters, and the length, 400 meters. It was given the name "Wall of the Big Snake" because, from the plane, it looks like a snake.


In Loltun (Yucatan, Mexico), there are huge statues, built from lava. They couldn't establish the age. The graves found are a few hundred meters higher than the sea level, but they rose when the Bahamas Island sank, about 12,000 years ago. Some claim that the statues were built before the end of the Würm period. According to some, if you add to these 12,000 years the years needed for the fossils to get to nowadays stage, then we one can say that this happened 30-40,000 years ago.

In Costa Rica and Guatemala they found 2000 spheres of granite. The biggest one has a circumference of 2.5 meters and weighs 16 tones. The geometrical form of the spheres is perfect and their age reaches thousands of years.



crystal sage
http://www.exopolitics.org/Exo-Comment-23.htm

If however the tall whites appeared subsequent to the 1954 Eisenhower-ET agreements (see http://exopolitics.org/Study-Paper-8.htm ) then it is very likely that the Tall Whites have ulterior motives which go significantly beyond merely resupplying and repairing their deep space craft on route to other interstellar locations. The use of time travel technologies might be used by the tall whites to buttress the idea that they have been on Earth for centuries, but this could be entirely fabricated.

I believe that the tall whites were associated with the 1954 Eisenhower-ET meetings and that they subsequently established their base in the Indian Springs area of Nevada in that time period. It was clear that Charles was subtly influenced by the tall whites to believe they have been present in different periods of US history. The ability of the tall whites to refer to earlier historical periods and their presence is possibly due to advanced technologies such as time travel which they can use to influence our perceptions of their historical presence. This will be naturally controversial but is vitally important as knowledge of the tall whites becomes more widespread, and their expolitical significance is discussed.



************8

http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Olmec.html
IamsSon
QUOTE(louie @ Oct 6 2006, 06:36 AM) [snapback]1379808[/snapback]

so are you thinking what im thinking ... that the large religous groups and governments are aware of the existence of these advanced past cultures and are repressing the information because it would upset and tear apart thier now solid theory structures, and in the process keep the unimaginable power they have over the masses......


Actually, given that a finding of ancient civilizations far advanced from our current ones would give the lie to the idea that ancient man was much less intelligent than modern man, it would have a great negative impact on the theory of evolution.

I am not so sure that it would have much of an impact on the beliefs of, say Biblical Christians since we believe that man was created, and was possibly even smarter than we are now. Additionally, what kind of event would lead to the demise of such a civilization? Possibly something on the level of a global flood which would kill of the majority of the world's population, destroy all population centers, damage or destroy all equipment would certainly bolster the story of the flood and maybe even explain the story of Atlantis (what if this advanced center just sank beneath the globally rising waters?)

So, I think other than possibly requiring those Christians who posit that the age of Creation is approximately 6,000 years to recalculate that age by as much as several 100 thousand years, there really would not be much impact on "religious groups" if it was found that an extremely advanced civilization existed more than 10,000 years ago.
crystal sage
There is talk about magnetic Pole Reversals too... and what if they played with genetics way back then..and biological warfare as we are doing now... There is lots of ancient legends of cloning..genetic manipulation of plants etc... some weird tales about the origins of wheat...

The Sodom and Gemorrah tale sounds much like a nuclear explosion....

http://www.zenzibar.com/news/article.asp?id=1768
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-abr/abr-a007.html

the way modern gentics are breeding plants with no seeds...to encourage us to buy more from huge corporations... ( it really is happening... and what if those genitic mutations leap to our other foodstuffs...I've have bought many fruits..apples and pears especially that have no seeds in them!!!)...so food will slowly decrease...and then the innoculations..and according to conspiracists...chemtrails...bacteria..viruses let loose into the population..to make us dependant on drug companies for cures...eg bird flue...aids...maybe???)

http://members.tripod.com/c_rader0/gemod.htm
http://www.thebooktree.com/ehaa.html
http://www.gaytoday.badpuppy.com/garchive/...th/020899he.htm
http://whale.to/b/cantwell19.html
That could easily wiped out populations in the past..just like they are in danger of doing now!!!!!!! no.gif hmm.gif sad.gif
sonofkrypton
TOPIC NAME = atlantis real or not???

NOT thumbsup.gif
Harte
QUOTE(IamsSon @ Oct 8 2006, 04:36 PM) [snapback]1382389[/snapback]

Actually, given that a finding of ancient civilizations far advanced from our current ones would give the lie to the idea that ancient man was much less intelligent than modern man, it would have a great negative impact on the theory of evolution.


Actually, this sort of thing would have no impact on the Theory of Evolution at all. Evolution simply does not imply that we today are smarter than the Homo Sapiens of 10,000 (or even 100,000) years ago.

Harte
växan
the story of Atlantis comes from Plato's dialogues
which were supposedly passed on from Egyptian priests

it describes a lost continent (yes a whole continent)
beyond the pillars of hercules (Gibralter to you and me)
somewhere in the Atlantic

let's see, how many unknown continents were there at that time?

hmm.. could it be, oh i dunno maybe...

North or South America? rolleyes.gif
crystal sage
QUOTE(växan @ Oct 10 2006, 09:03 AM) [snapback]1383768[/snapback]

the story of Atlantis comes from Plato's dialogues
which were supposedly passed on from Egyptian priests

it describes a lost continent (yes a whole continent)
beyond the pillars of hercules (Gibralter to you and me)
somewhere in the Atlantic

let's see, how many unknown continents were there at that time?

hmm.. could it be, oh i dunno maybe...

North or South America? rolleyes.gif


http://www.atlantisquest.com/Writings.html



Let us use an example from a hundred years before Plato in which Herodotus, the "father of history," mentions Atlantis by name in referring to the body of water into which it sank. Here is the Greek text of a portion of Clio (History, Bk I, 202) in which the waters outside the Pillars of Hercules is said to be known as the Atlantis Sea.

"But one of the mouths of the Araxes flows with clarity into the Caspian Sea; but the Caspian Sea is by itself, not connected to the other sea. For the sea navigated by the Greeks, also that outside of the Pillars called the Atlantis Sea and the Erythraean, are one and the same." (Translated by R. Cedric Leonard)

One does not need to be a Greek scholar to recognize the word "Atlantis" in the above Greek text (line 5, 3rd word from the left). Many of my colleagues insist that the phrase should be translated "the sea of Atlas" instead of the Atlantis Sea. While it is true that Atlantis is an inflected form of Atlas, these very same colleagues have never suggested that when Plato speaks of the "island of Atlantis" it would be more properly translated as the "island of Atlas". The island and the ocean were called "Atlantis" because they were named after Atlas (which is what the name "Atlantis" means).


The point here, which cannot be gainsaid, is that Atlantis was known before Plato--so well-known that the sea outside Gibraltar was commonly called the Atlantis Sea in Herodotus' time. It had acquired that name because Atlantis had once occupied that area. We carry the same tradition down when we refer to that same body of water as the Atlantic. While in Europe, I noticed that their maps label the same ocean "Atlantischer," preserving the word "Atlantis" intact.


In the above quote, Herodotus also mentions another name of the Atlantic, the Erythraean. The word in Greek indicates the color red--descriptive of the effect of sunset on the water, as would be seen from a European vantage point. (Note: It is this word, not Geryon, that means "red glow of the sunset," Ignatius Donnelly notwithstanding; 1882 edition, p. 307). But even a minimal amount of research demonstrates that the Atlantic Ocean had yet another more common name in ancient times.


Ancient Egyptian, Sanskrit and European sources (e.g., Pliny the Elder) often refer to the Atlantic Ocean as the "Western Ocean"--important if one is looking for ancient records of Atlantis. It is a given that any records dating back before Plato are going to be hard to find; but even though the pickings are slim, records which have been overlooked by most modern scholars do exit.


As we encounter these writings, it should be noted that Atlantis itself is sometimes represented by various spellings (sometimes even unnamed); but it should also be noted that when the context is properly considered, there is no doubt about the identity of the island being referenced. And, as will be demonstrated, there is no doubt that the "Western Ocean" mentioned is indeed the Atlantic.
http://atlantis.haktanir.org/ch10.html
MoonPrincess
QUOTE(växan @ Oct 9 2006, 07:03 PM) [snapback]1383768[/snapback]

the story of Atlantis comes from Plato's dialogues
which were supposedly passed on from Egyptian priests

it describes a lost continent (yes a whole continent)
beyond the pillars of hercules (Gibralter to you and me)
somewhere in the Atlantic

let's see, how many unknown continents were there at that time?

hmm.. could it be, oh i dunno maybe...

North or South America? rolleyes.gif


Did you watch the program with these wording? I saw that too.

I've always been interested in the Lost Continent of Atlantis. And yet I haven't kept up with the new findings if there are any.

But I watched another program like last month. And one dude said it was up around The North Pole. Another dude said it was in Latin America. Around Brazil. Don't go "You are totally wrong" because that's what the guys said.

Just because we haven't found it, doesn't mind it doesn't exist. I'm hoping the lost city was/is real.

You know what I mean.
crystal sage
They are finding evidence of submerged cities all over the world.....

http://www.archaeology.org/online/news/negypt.html

http://www.hindunet.org/saraswati/khambat/khambat01.htm


http://s8int.com/water4.html

hhttp://www.laputanlogic.com/articles/2004/02/10-0002.html

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/feat/archi...02/12/01/185543

http://www.grahamhancock.com/underworld/underworld1.php?p=3


There was just not Atlantis.... maybe it's legend remained stronger as it was the wealthiest nation of the time....or had the most influence....or more prominant survivors to spread the word.....

Over the past 30 years, temperatures in the Arctic have been creeping up, rising half a degree Celsius with attendant increases in glacial melting and decreases in sea ice. Experts predict that at current levels of greenhouse gases--carbon dioxide alone is at 375 parts per million--the earth may warm by as much as five degrees Celsius, matching conditions roughly 130,000 years ago. Now a refined climate model is predicting, among other things, sea level rises of as much as 20 feet, according to research results published today in the journal Science
crystal sage
Posted on 12/04/2003 9:30:18 AM PST by blam


Submerged city may be older than Mesopotamia

Utpal Parashar
Dehra Dun, December 3


A submerged coastal city near Poompuhar in Nagapattinam, Tamil Nadu, is the focus of a major expedition being conducted jointly by the Indian Naval Hydrographic Department (INHD) and the Archaeological Survey of India (ASI).

Both the organisations are trying to piece together the city's past, which some noted marine archaeologists consider to be the birthplace of modern civilisation. The once flourishing port city is located about one mile off the Nagapattinam coast.

"We have been able to locate a section of the city at a depth of 7 m and will soon start operations to recover objects that will help ascertain its past," said Rear Admiral K.R. Srinivasan, chief hydrographer to the Indian government.

English marine archaeologist Graham Hancock, who conducted an underwater exploration in the area in 2001, believes that the Poompuhar site could be older than Sumeria in Mesopotamia, where modern civilisation is believed to have originated nearly 5,000 years ago.

The 2001 expedition was funded by Channel Four of Britain and Learning Channel of the US in association with the National Institute of Oceanography (NIO), Goa.

It led Hancock to surmise that the city could have been submerged by a tidal wave as high as 400 ft somewhere between 17,000 and 7,000 years ago.

Other experts like Glenne Milne, a geologist at the University of Durham, UK, agree with Hancock. Video footage of the site shows that the submerged city near Poompuhar was far superior to constructions found in Harappan sites.

Although NIO had conducted similar offshore expeditions in the area in the late 1980s and early 1990s — and discovered objects like ring wells, brick structures and megalithic wares — it did not evince much interest till Hancock revealed his findings.

The new venture by the INHD and ASI may put an end to the debate on the submerged city. It could also rekindle a new interest in locating other such submerged towns and shipwrecks along India's coastline.

http://www.world-mysteries.com/pex_4.htm
pinkgrapefruit
QUOTE(louie @ Oct 6 2006, 12:36 PM) [snapback]1379808[/snapback]

so are you thinking what im thinking ... that the large religous groups and governments are aware of the existence of these advanced past cultures and are repressing the information because it would upset and tear apart thier now solid theory structures, and in the process keep the unimaginable power they have over the masses......

Putting the Sarcasm aside... Yes, the evidence has been destroyed for that reason.
DemonWatcher
it would be very interesting to know what our ancestors were really capable of beyond what we say they were capable of.
Cadetak
At most one day someone will find ancient ruins under the sea and it will be atlantis...there won't be any advnced technologies, aliens, or anything.
AtlantisRises
Even if a city/continent is found i doubt it will be "Atlantis" at the best Platos Atlantis was based on the Egyptian island of Thera which has several similarities.

According to Egyptian Myth Thera was an Island nation but I am not sure what happened to it.

At any rate i think Atlantis was just made up almost completely by Plato. A lot of what he says is historically inaccurate. For instance there WERE no Athenians 9000 years before. Even Egypt wasn't around that far ago yet he claims to get his Information from the Egyptians.
raider91
I don't really know if it is real or not, but I think that there was an advance civilization had everything they could possibly want or need and there horrible sins cursed them and a huge tidal wave was sent to wipe them off the map.
AtlantisRises
Why do you think that.


Is it based On Plato, Edgar Cayce. etc.

Just Curious
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