if looking on google earth at the gulf of st lawerence from north to south and using ezekeals drescription of the throne you will see ,and sometimes we do get lost in secrets

Why MUST they come from this place. Personalyl i think it more likely that the origins of Atlantis was probably India or possibly North Africa (Such as pre-egypt) as they to have some incredible and unexplaineable items. For instance the current Human race is quite advanced but it does not originate from Cape Breton, nor does any place really.

While New York, Beijing, Paris, London etc may be considered world centers in trith the world has no real center. So why would an ancient society of similar or greater ability to ourself(as Atlantis/Rama) is reputed come from Cape Breton, Certainly they may have had a large City, Installtion, Settlement etc There but that is no reason to categorically claim that it is the capital of atlantis. The truth is so far lost in the mists of History that i doubt we will ever no it.

There is in fact almost as much supporting data on a lost continent in the Pacific(Lemuria) as the Atlantic(Atlantis).
Native americans of the west told of a group of strange blue eyed people that came from a sunken land in the pacific. I am not sure of the tribes, but I believe one was the NAVAJOs. They claim these people moved into Mt. Shasta.
There are many unexplained mysteries on this mountain. I have heard first hand and read of many more.

Maybe I'm wrong but I thought that Atlantis came from a story that Plato invented?
And then it blew up out of proportions, like what happened with the Necronomicon?

Many people believe that but it is a fact that much of the stories that Plato "Invented" were actually conversations he had had with his mentor Socrates, And while none of Socrates publications have survived till today it is believed that much of his work was based on the Oral Histories of many people.

However it is true that there are no mentions of "Atlantis" before Plato, but there are many mentions of advanced societies, personally i think that "Atlantis is just a name that Plato invented and that stuck, if you read the Indian Sanskrit and Vedic scrolls then you will see a similar society mentioned called Rama or the Ramans.

Similar topics exist in ancient Chinese, Native American etc accounts but are generally ignored as they did not come from a western source.......

(From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

As Lemuria gained some acceptance within the scientific community, it began to appear in the works of other scholars. Ernst Haeckel, a German Darwinian taxonomist, proposed Lemuria as an explanation for the absence of "missing link" fossil records. Locating the origins of the human species on this lost continent, he claimed the fossil record could not be found because it had sunk beneath the sea.

Haeckel was also a free-thinker who went beyond biology, dabbling in anthropology, psychology, and cosmology. Haeckel's speculative ideas and apparent fudging of data, plus lack of empirical support for many of his ideas, tarnished his scientific credentials.

Ernst Haeckel's map of Lemuria, 19th c. Its probable site in the Indian Ocean, joining Madagascar, Africa, India, and the Malay Peninsula--the homelands of the lemuria.

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http://ukko.free.fr/mu.htm

Title page of Rudolf Steiner's book on Atlantis and Lemuria. The term 'Akashic records' refers to a kind of collective memory-bank on the astral plane, which the initiate can tap to discover facts about the past that have escaped documentation.

http://wn.rsarchive.org/Lectures/UniEarMan/UniMan_index.html

Well research findings or facts going to be reveil very soon, "The truth is out there"!

the proplem with india or africa is india the arayians that settleled in india come from here but about 60,000 years ago landed in russa went down on the high platue ending in india and middel east,and africa people still think were from apes i came from the sea ,not monkey but seal.

no there is'nt the island that is the center of all the land mass on earth is located in the atlantic theres evadents of atlantis yes but not the capital island in the pacific

i hear ya but you don't hear me ,china mentions about the island of seven city's which columus had on his map that island is cape breton,this is the first time the all was as one.all people came from here that were inlightened that is ,befor they were sent to the four corners of the earth in the last fall from grace

"center of all the land mass on earth"?

What does that mean, and how do you support this claim?

i've read rudolf stiener's books and lemuria the center of is cape breton n.a was not squished together and was like islands .i call these akashic records the father our god for he is all

and thats why i crossed the gealigy of cape breton with the story to find truth with all the 20,000 other story's on the subject i had to go to the horses mouth for the facts.the necronomicon is just a book that help you talks to your ansesters though the bloodline of you

hahah everything is center of our planet when you think about it lol,
our planet is round, so wherever you are you are right in the middle lol

this means that at one time in the past cape breton was the highest and the center of the dry land on earth, the middel of a mt range that went from china to california,all the dectonic plates came together and created cape breton island that spot were it happened was at the pillars of herculize that is were the africian plate and the uroasia plate meet and when the pressur of these plates was released the capestone which is cape breton of today subsided ,as it fell not all at once but many times over maney millions of years did this happen pushing n.a squishing all the islands together for there is fault lines that run across and down n.a. and this is happening in a counter clock rotation makeing the rockies in the prosess.time and space do not come into play in the spirit 1million or one day there is no differents.this is what the rock of cape breton tells me.look to the rock to find a strong foundation in the theory you start.

Indeed there is no evidence of any kind of a lost land in the pacific.
It was supposedly well before the speculated Atlantis time. If true it could have been totally erased, by volcanic and tectonic movements.
ATLANTIS. while it remains an intriqing story it may never be proven using conventional means. Perhaps a future generation will find a means too peek into the past, and findly once and for all solve an enduring mystery.

And your support for this claim?

But that's never been the case.



No such mountain range has ever existed. Cape Breton island today is the worn down roots of a mountain range that originally comprised the Apalachians, Caledonian and Norwegian hills - which were joined before the opening of the Atlantic, having previoulsy been formed by the collision of a number of older tectonic plates. All of which happened million of years before even the dinoosaurs existed on Earth....


You have a basic understanding of the geological history of the region, but then sadly you leap off in flights of fancy which make your theories sound ever more fantastical.

The major landmass seperated over two hundred million years ago, so what has that to do with atlantis???

Your posts seem full of nothing but rhetoric......

Your stubborn refusal to consider all but Cape Breton as a possibilty borders on the absurd. It seems that you are ignoring all evidence that may disagree with you.

Personally, I believe that Atlantis is a technologically advanced floating city built tens of thousands of years ago by a race of Ancients, which resides in the Pegasus galaxy.

discoveryofatlantis.com

'Nuf said.

my support for this claim comes from a dr rob raeside that did the geological survia of cape breton in 83,84,85,

but cape breton is the center it's writen in the stone

Whilst I've not seen any of Dr Raeside's papers on the geology of Nova Scotia, I fail to see how they have led you to the conclusion that Atlantis was part a mountain range formed hundreds of millions of years ago ....

Regardless of whether Cape Breton Island is formed from the roots of the highest mountain in that range, or whether it was geograhically the centre of the earth at the time, the simple fact is that there was not even any life on the surface of the planet when these mountains formed ...

Still, I suppose it would have made it easier for the Atlantean army to defeat the peoples of the Mediteranean if all they were were blue-green algae floating on a pond amid barren rocks .....

LOL, the Atlantean algae was probably more advanced...

essan i thought you were smarter than that ,because the rock say's that this island was made by the comming together of the north american plate with eurasian plate and african plate along with the south american plate now because of this, cap breton island was pushed to a height of at least 35 km because there are a greater variety of igneous rocks-plutonic rocks that were once magmas in the cape breton highlands than there is in north america and perhaps anywhere in the world,except along the himalayns or the alps.the mt range that cape breton sat apone did streght from china to californa when the world was one (the dry land).and yes this was before the seperation of north american and south america but when that happened there was no support from the eurasian plate and african plate and this pillar that cape breton sits apon subsided and when it stopped for a bit the first time because there were more subsidents to come, the capitale island of atlantis was born because it sat just beyond the pillars of herculise.my basic understanding of geological history goes beyond this area, sadly it is your understanding of it that i question ? and it only leaps off into flights of fancy when i cross it with the myth that plato gave us,tell me how my theorie sounds so fantastical.

yes i explianed that is how the capital island was formed just beyond the pillars,but my stubberness to ignorer the truth of cape breton is no way absurd, what evidence whoum out of the 20,000 books on the subject, has given any evidents of the island plato talks about.

well essan i think you should look a littel harder for those papers they are there,and when did you become all knowing to say when life started here or any where.and i thought it was the greeks that liberated east of the pillars from the atlantean amy not blue-green algae.

Ancient city in another galaxy I say. The stories of which were brought to us from that alien race who settled on earth.

If you believe everything that is written down you should see some of the stuff in the local bars mens room






Yeah i've heard this theory as well and it has as much merit as any other. Though it need not be in another galaxy, could be in the next major star system and we'd have no way of knowing

city,galaxy,aliens what are ya talking about ?

what i see is what i see, you see i have cleared an area to the bedrock on the highlands of cape breton and crossed it with the aireale pics i got and whats writen in stone is that somone carved the stone .it just so happens that when i crossed the geoligy with the myth i got capitale island of atlantis out of the make up of the stone that makes the island of cape breton.

i don't go to bars so i guess i won't see your name and number for a good time call or would i, it souds too personal to me

Its quite a common Raelian belief actually, basically it is thought that instead of being on earth atlantis was infact a city, or empire of the beings that seeded life on this earth, another idea is that it was the original settlement of these aliens

Really? Cause the last time I checked, the theory that Atlantis is a giant floating city built tens of thousands of years ago in the Pegasus galaxy isn't so much of a "theory" as it's a...

On 8/7/06 Coast to Coast George interviewed Robert Sarmast. Very interesting program. I think it would be awesome to finally find this land mass. Robert's interview was very convincing. And makes a lot of sense.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2006/08/07.html

Robert also co wrote the Sci-fi program that showed a couple of months ago.

Good stuff!!

theres one problem with cypress being the place for atlantis its not just beyond the pillars , and it was never there just beyond the pillars .maybe a city state but not the capital.you three can beleive what you want,but the truth is the truth,and cyprees is not the truth.

M.A.D. - the rocks that today make up Cape Breton Island were formed during the Caledonian-Arcadian Orogeny during the Devonian Period, over 400,000,000 years ago - at which time life had yet to ermge from the seas. The Orogony came about as three ancient tectonic plates - Laurentia (N America), Baltica (Scotland and Scandinavia) and Avalonia (England, Wales and eastern parts of Nova Scotia and Newfoundland) collided.

It's a very interesting geological story - but has nothing whatsoever to do with the story of Atlantis which took place some 399,989,000 or so years later .....

it is quiet uneick but how the island was made is what i'm saying there had to be a place for life to come out of the sea and cape breton is that cradel for life to do just that.as for when life first started some time from when it was created till now.but the funny thing is there is tales of the ancient ones in the necronomicon and my guess they were here when the world was one, these cycles of life,keep comming rising and falling starting and ending. but this time it will start a new over here and it will end over there .

the necronomicon isn't real either....

Ah, but when life did come out of the sea, Cape Breton Island was at the heart of a Himalayan sized mountain chain, hundreds of miles from the sea .......

I can see how people would associate the Necronomicon with the Devonian. There were a lot of really weird and creepy creatures moving about.

None of them were after our souls though.

When I found that out, it was a big dissapointment

life at that time was crazy with all the strainge things that lived,there had to be the seperating of the sexes,with the seperating of north america and south america,and when that happened cape breton being the capestone of this huge mt fell the first time putting it just beyound the pillars creating the island which was the cradle of life and because of tectonic drift and pole shiffes you had a migeration of going north and going south.that ship that left so long ago has come back home.

Yes but it makes as much sense as a extremely high tech society that somehow existed without using up all fossilfuels or leaving long life waste such as nuclear waste, or plastics that can survive under certain circumstances for millenia





Yeah that was a shame when i learnt that..........

And of course fodder for science fiction such as my favorite TV show which I was quoting and hoped at least someone would have gotten...

Perhaps Plato mentioning Atlantis existence is just an ordinary existence
of normal civilisation during his time, but one thing is he do mention about
the Atlantis civilisation have a good engineering and architecture system.

He just mention some portion of Atlantis existence expecially from the Dialog
of Critia and Timeaus. Perhaps he afraid to elaborate more on its existense due to what had happen to his teacher Socrates.

The other thing is, the existence of Atlantis that Plato get is from a Priest
of Egypt. From this point, we look at the existence of the Pyramid,
and our present scientist and professor from all over the world predicted
this pyramid is really really hard to being build by the Egyptian people
during that time, from the tools they use and the geographical structure
there.
And from the tomb of seti after the entrance of the pyramid we found
many hieligraphic of the Egyptian language and its nothing say about how
they build the pyramid, perhaps that is a tomb and all language they use is to define their belief and religion about life and death.

But we found an astronomy that which is inside of the pyramid of giza itself,
http://www.crystalinks.com/ancientaircraft.html

Is all futuristics technology of vehicles, and do u all really think the egyptian people who wrote this symbols? This symbols is very basic symbols and it does not require any translation and it written not at the pyramid wall and is written on the ceiling beam at the corner. i believe this has wriiten down before the ancient civilisation left and once the egyptian took over we hardly see all this symbols being found, all we found is symbols of egyptian god worship and their daily life activity, their culture,gods and none technology stuff, not at all!

On my prediction, the ancient people known our existence and that's why they had made those symbols for us, they want us to know their existence and perhaps onedays the truth that we found and we can build a better world not like something that happen to them and they left. There must be some reason behind all this.

i prefer to believe that its somewhere out there. i remeber watching this show years ago where they were diving in some waters off the bahamas and there were all thse ancient perfectly carved stone pathways and then they went into the junge and dived near these huge black rocks carved in to blocks

While it is possible that a powerful maritime civilization existed within the period of the ancient greeks, and the minoan civilization is the most likely one; which gave rise to the legend of atlantis, it would only have been a civilization of comparable scientific ability.

Other than through an alien race landing on earth, there is no time within the presently understood geologic and evolutionary time frame for even one High tech civilisation to have developed on earth before our own. People tend to confuse geologic ages(Billions of years)/non human like life on earth (hundreds of millions of years)/ human like primates( less than 10 million years)/and what we would classify as modern humans(considerably less than 100,000 years) I stand to be corrected on details, but those are approx correct.

The way evolution occurred, it took all that time to produce one intelligent/thinking species and get to our present level of technology. Apart from the lack of any evidence for any early civilization, there wasn't time for it to evolve. For example we know there were no human like creatures around during the age of the dinosaurs for obvious reasons. This leaves us with "alien" civilizations, which are possible, but why would they bother, given that they would be dealing with, at best, apes at a lower level than Australopithecene. While i would like to believe, history suggests that Atlantis was one of the first urban legends.

That's not really true, though. The genus Homo has only been around for about 5-7 million years. And Homo sapiens has only been around for about 250,000 years. Considering that life on earth is about 3.5 billion years old, there's certainly more than enough time for another species to have evolved to sentience and then been wiped out. Time is not really an issue.



Now, I'm not saying humans were around at the time of the dinosaurs. Please don't think I'm saying that (and anyone who believes in that really should do me a favor and NOT use anything I say as positive for their argument). It might seem as if we have oodles and oodles of fossils, but really what we have is so incredibly tiny compared to what life on earth was at the time, it is entirely possible that there were sentient species living on earth at that time. We just might not have found anything yet. Geologic forces are awesome and extreme and can completely obliterate everything that might have been there before.

There could possibly have been a species that evolved from previous species on the planet that was living here and we just haven't found any traces yet. Like I said, we're only limited to what we've found, and as any archaeologist knows, sometimes a depression in the ground indicates a settlement. And if that was only in 10,000 years, imagine what can get destroyed in millions of years!

Of course, this is kind of ridiculous to place Atlanteans before human history, because who would be around to tell the story of Atlantis?

I wouldn't rule out aliens entirely, but I think it's most likely that Atlantis is merely a conglomeration of stories of different destroyed civilizations/cities (Thera for one) that turned into a legend.

Though I still say floating city built by ascended masters in the Pegasus galaxy.

Some researcher found that the hieroglyphs at the ABYLOS Temple of
Egypt on "Abydos helicopter" which is found at the side of the wall is
FAKE OR someone just purposely created it.

http://www.ufocom.org/pages/v_us/m_archeo/Abydos/abydos.html

Wheather sometimes is true or fake is really really hard to know, sometimes people won't easily believe because they never see it or they
just don't believe it.
Hope more clues outhere giving us to reveal out the truth and all the
puzzle will be able to solve giving us time and the determination to find!

As I was writing my first entry, I realised that someone could look at the time scales and say "hey there is plenty of time for another sentient species to evolve. It only took us 10 million years, that leaves 80 million to play around with, since the dinosaurs.
The trouble is that our own species evolutionary process is quite tightly tied in and proven (if you accept the theory of evolution at all) with the evolution of animals, from the dinosaurs to modern man. You would have to go back to to an unknown time before the dinosaurs and create a whole new evolutionary process to get to a different result. And it is in this time frame that you just run out of time. There is really only time for it all to have happened once.
There is absolutely no accepted evidence at all that some branch of evolution broke off between the dinosaurs and the present to create a different sentient species. Yes, isolated pockets of such people may have lived and had their existence wiped out by geologic change, but to reach an advanced technology the population would have been widespread and radically changing its own environment. this would have left evidence discoverable. even now. While there have been some odd discoveries of possible advanced technologies over the years, it is more likely that these( If they are real at all) come from space travellers who could have settled permanently or temporarily in one or more locations on earth. Such a possibility more neatly fits the earliest oral and written stories, such as the one which began this debate. Even the bible can, and has been, interpreted in this way.
But i must agree that a floating city in the pegasus galaxy is the most appealing to me, as one who is an avid watcher of both the original Stargate, and Atlantis. You have to be avid when your local network puts new season's episodes on after 11 at night. Never mind. I have managed to collect the first 120 episodes on D.V.D. so far, and hope to eventually get the lot.