It will be interestint to see what happens with the Bosnian pyramid....
http://avdibeg.dk/blog/2005/10/27/pyramid-...omment-page-76/
Sarajevo, there is a stone pyramid of monumental size, claims the Bosnian archeologist Semir Osmanagić, who lives and works in the USA.
After several months of geological and archeological research, Mr. Osmanagić concluded that under the present hill of Visočica hides a stairs-like pyramid, about 12,000 years old.
Osmanagić, who intensively researched on pyramids in Americas, Asia and Africa for the last 15 years and wrote several books on the subject, says he’s quite sure he found the first pyramid in Europe, which is quite similar to ones in the Southern America.
He believes that the project would completely change Bosnia’s significance in the world of archeology.
On the top of “Bosnian pyramid of Sun” was a temple, built by pre-Illyrians, people who lived, according to Osmanagić, 27,000 years ago.
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and what does that got to do with this
here is a picture that was taken in 1975 and was used for property boundaries,elevation
here are two pictures that are from the last two but those shadows have been shaded with a rainbow of color.
there is no natural way that bedrock can be carved like this.
and if the atlantean peaple didn't carve the bedrock of the cape breton highlands then who did?
here are two pictures that are from the last two but those shadows have been shaded with a rainbow of color.
there is no natural way that bedrock can be carved like this.
and if the atlantean peaple didn't carve the bedrock of the cape breton highlands then who did?
QUOTE(M.A.D @ Oct 19 2006, 08:53 AM) [snapback]1395726[/snapback]
and what does that got to do with this
Basically to qualify an earlier statement that there's evidence of earlier civilizations...
Also...that many other fairly advanced civilizations were about in those prehistoric days...not just Atlantis.. many submerged ruins etc have been found lately that are puzzeling many....
here's the some sites on the Japanese submerged ruins...that they suspect also could have been the lost city of Mu....dated maybe over 17000 years...
http://www.lauralee.com/japan.htm
http://www.morien-institute.org/yonaguni.html
http://www.amazon.com/Underworld-Mysteriou...tion/1400049512
http://www.tylwythteg.com/articles/cuba.html
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=91...&q=atlantis
http://www.tylwythteg.com/Atlantis.html
http://www.grahamhancock.com/underworld/
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?.../20/MN85913.DTL
Echoes of Plato's Atlantis
By Dr Iain Stewart
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/greek...lantis_04.shtml
Echoes of Plato's Atlantis
By Dr Iain Stewart
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/greek...lantis_04.shtml
Housed in a warehouse in Ica, Peru, is a collection of stone tablets which carry pictures portraying advanced medical practice. The tablets were first seen and recorded by Father Simon, a Jesuit missionary who accompanied Pizarro in 1525. Amongst other scenes portrayed are pictures of what appear to be Caesarian surgery and blood transfusions as well as the use of acupuncture needles and detailed images of what appear to be open heart surgery. The tablets are not just anomolies: they open a Pandora's box of questions and challenge everything we have been taught about our past.
It is becoming increasingly evident that our notions of human history are not simply mistaken but in need of a total overhaul. The evidence is beginning to mount to the point where it can no longer be ignored; all across the planet archaeological finds are being made that are distinctly at odds with the conventional notions of humanity’s past and point to a revolution in the way we see ourselves and our origins.
Over the last two centuries various archeological finds have been unearthed which do not fit into the conventional time-scale of pre-history; these so-called archeological anomalies have largely been buried in site reports or left to gather dust in museum storage rooms. However the sheer volume of these finds and the very nature of some of them calls for another look at the worlds before our own.
Academic consensus maintains that the ancestor of modern man emerged one million years ago. Whilst modern man, homo sapiens, only emerged as the dominant planetary life form some 40,000 years ago; this is generally the line held by conventional archeologists and anthropologists, in spite of the fact that there is considerable evidence to the contrary.
Thus we have the case of the metal spheres found by miners in the Western Transvaal, South Africa. Over the past few decades miners in the area have come across metal spheres, often grooved, in layers of sedimentation estimated at 2.8 billion years old. According to Roelf Marx, curator of the Klerksdorp museum where they are kept: “The spheres are a complete mystery. . .They’re nothing like I have ever seen before.” Moreover the spheres are so hard that they cannot be scratched, even with a hard metal point. In 1979 several were closely examined by J.R. McIver, professor of geology at the University of Wi****ersrand in Jo’burg and Andries Bischoff, geology professor at Potschefstroom University. What they found only deepened the mystery; averaging 1 to 4 inches in diameter the spheres are usually coloured steel blue with tiny flecks of white fibers embedded in them. They were found to be made of a nickel-steel alloy which does not occur naturally, and is of such a composition that excludes any meteoric origin. Quite simply they do not fit into any conventional prehistoric time-scale.
Likewise an early Paleolithic skull on display in London’s Natural History Museum would seem to defy all conventional archeology. Dated at 38,000 years old and excavated in 1921 in modern Zambia, the skull bears a perfectly round hole about a third of an inch in diameter on its left side. Opposite the hole, the cranium is shattered, and reconstruction of the fragments show that the skull was smashed from the inside out, as if from a bullet wound. Forensic experts who have examined the skull all agree that the cranial damage could only have been caused by a high speed projectile. So the fact that the skull was excavated from a depth of 60 foot, of mostly lead rock, only deepens the mystery.
Just as baffling is the case of an iron pot found in a block of coal. Thus according to an affidavit made by Frank J. Kenwood in 1912: “While I was working in the Municipal Electric Plant in Thomas, Okla, in 1912, I came upon a solid chunk of coal which was too large to use. I broke it with a sledge hammer. This iron pot fell from the center, leaving the impression or mould of the pot in the piece of coal. . .I traced the source of the coal and found that it came from the Wilburton, Oklahoma, Mines.” According to Robert O. Fay of the Oklahoma Geological Survey, the Wilburton mine coal is about 312 million years old.
In a similar vein, so to speak, we have this account first published in Brad Steigers ‘World’s Before Our Own: “In the year 1928, I, Atlas Almon Mathis, was working in coal mine No. 5., located two miles north of Heavener, Oklahoma. This was a shaft mine, and they told us it was two miles deep. The mine was so deep that they let us down into it in an elevator . . .They pumped air down to us, it was so deep.” After blasting the miners came across what appeared to be some concrete blocks, according to Mathis: “These blocks were 12-inch cubes and were so smooth and polished on the outside that all six sides could serve as mirrors. Yet they were full of gravel, because I chipped one of them with my pick, and it was plain concrete inside.”
“As I started to timber the room up,” Mathis continued, “it caved in; and I barely escaped. When I came back after the cave-in, a solid wall of these polished blocks was left exposed. About 100 to 150 yards farther down our air core, another miner struck this same wall, or one very similar.” The coal in the mine was probably carboniferous which, according standard dating methods, would mean that the wall was at least 286 million years old.
Thereafter the mining company officials pulled the men out of the mine and forbade them to speak about what they had found. In a strange twist of fate the men were then sent to the Wilburton mine mentioned previously. According to Mathis the miners there spoke of having found “a solid block of silver in the shape of a barrel . . .with the prints of the staves on it.”
As far back as the eighteen hundreds artifacts were being unearthed which defied conventional archeology. For example in 1871, William E. Dubois of the Smithsonian Institute reported finding several man-made objects whilst drilling a well in Marshall County, Illinois. Using a “common ground auger” a number of coin like objects were recovered from a depth of about 114 feet. At that depth the Illinois State Geological Survey estimates the deposits were made “sometime between 200,000 and 400,000 years ago.”
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=64
>>> The point of posting this artice???
Simply that most of the arguements against the possibility of Atlantis...is that either biblically ,man has only been on earth for 5000 years or so... or that there is no evidence pre ice-age of any real advanced civilization..
Ancient ruins and artifacts are being discovered all over the place that disprove these suppositions... I remember in religious classes as a child we were taught by the Nunns etc...that god placed these anomolies ..( lol !!! including the dinasaur bones ) around to test our faith in him ...
Every time that someone uncovers evidence of an ancient city...they immediately jump to the conclusion that this could be Atlantis... sure they could be...but at the time of Atlantis...there would also have been other nations...countries...civilizations that were equal to Atlantis...for them to trade with etc...
Note how in modern times...we.. in an altruistic sense of rightness share or impose our culture...civilization on other seemingly less advanced or advantaged peoples... eg or impose our spiritual beliefs....
I don't see how humanity would have been any different then.... or even before those times...
Cause logical reasoning will comply that if we discover prehistorical evidence of other civilizations that we could have only rumours/legends of..so to would those previous prehistorical civilizations...
We all have come to the conclusion that life etc is cyclicle...that we learn lessons from the past...
The earth is billions of years old... there are skeletons of man or prehistoric man found up to 3 million years of age..hense there is room for inumerable civilizations....
http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/09/20...r.ap/index.html
It is becoming increasingly evident that our notions of human history are not simply mistaken but in need of a total overhaul. The evidence is beginning to mount to the point where it can no longer be ignored; all across the planet archaeological finds are being made that are distinctly at odds with the conventional notions of humanity’s past and point to a revolution in the way we see ourselves and our origins.
Over the last two centuries various archeological finds have been unearthed which do not fit into the conventional time-scale of pre-history; these so-called archeological anomalies have largely been buried in site reports or left to gather dust in museum storage rooms. However the sheer volume of these finds and the very nature of some of them calls for another look at the worlds before our own.
Academic consensus maintains that the ancestor of modern man emerged one million years ago. Whilst modern man, homo sapiens, only emerged as the dominant planetary life form some 40,000 years ago; this is generally the line held by conventional archeologists and anthropologists, in spite of the fact that there is considerable evidence to the contrary.
Thus we have the case of the metal spheres found by miners in the Western Transvaal, South Africa. Over the past few decades miners in the area have come across metal spheres, often grooved, in layers of sedimentation estimated at 2.8 billion years old. According to Roelf Marx, curator of the Klerksdorp museum where they are kept: “The spheres are a complete mystery. . .They’re nothing like I have ever seen before.” Moreover the spheres are so hard that they cannot be scratched, even with a hard metal point. In 1979 several were closely examined by J.R. McIver, professor of geology at the University of Wi****ersrand in Jo’burg and Andries Bischoff, geology professor at Potschefstroom University. What they found only deepened the mystery; averaging 1 to 4 inches in diameter the spheres are usually coloured steel blue with tiny flecks of white fibers embedded in them. They were found to be made of a nickel-steel alloy which does not occur naturally, and is of such a composition that excludes any meteoric origin. Quite simply they do not fit into any conventional prehistoric time-scale.
Likewise an early Paleolithic skull on display in London’s Natural History Museum would seem to defy all conventional archeology. Dated at 38,000 years old and excavated in 1921 in modern Zambia, the skull bears a perfectly round hole about a third of an inch in diameter on its left side. Opposite the hole, the cranium is shattered, and reconstruction of the fragments show that the skull was smashed from the inside out, as if from a bullet wound. Forensic experts who have examined the skull all agree that the cranial damage could only have been caused by a high speed projectile. So the fact that the skull was excavated from a depth of 60 foot, of mostly lead rock, only deepens the mystery.
Just as baffling is the case of an iron pot found in a block of coal. Thus according to an affidavit made by Frank J. Kenwood in 1912: “While I was working in the Municipal Electric Plant in Thomas, Okla, in 1912, I came upon a solid chunk of coal which was too large to use. I broke it with a sledge hammer. This iron pot fell from the center, leaving the impression or mould of the pot in the piece of coal. . .I traced the source of the coal and found that it came from the Wilburton, Oklahoma, Mines.” According to Robert O. Fay of the Oklahoma Geological Survey, the Wilburton mine coal is about 312 million years old.
In a similar vein, so to speak, we have this account first published in Brad Steigers ‘World’s Before Our Own: “In the year 1928, I, Atlas Almon Mathis, was working in coal mine No. 5., located two miles north of Heavener, Oklahoma. This was a shaft mine, and they told us it was two miles deep. The mine was so deep that they let us down into it in an elevator . . .They pumped air down to us, it was so deep.” After blasting the miners came across what appeared to be some concrete blocks, according to Mathis: “These blocks were 12-inch cubes and were so smooth and polished on the outside that all six sides could serve as mirrors. Yet they were full of gravel, because I chipped one of them with my pick, and it was plain concrete inside.”
“As I started to timber the room up,” Mathis continued, “it caved in; and I barely escaped. When I came back after the cave-in, a solid wall of these polished blocks was left exposed. About 100 to 150 yards farther down our air core, another miner struck this same wall, or one very similar.” The coal in the mine was probably carboniferous which, according standard dating methods, would mean that the wall was at least 286 million years old.
Thereafter the mining company officials pulled the men out of the mine and forbade them to speak about what they had found. In a strange twist of fate the men were then sent to the Wilburton mine mentioned previously. According to Mathis the miners there spoke of having found “a solid block of silver in the shape of a barrel . . .with the prints of the staves on it.”
As far back as the eighteen hundreds artifacts were being unearthed which defied conventional archeology. For example in 1871, William E. Dubois of the Smithsonian Institute reported finding several man-made objects whilst drilling a well in Marshall County, Illinois. Using a “common ground auger” a number of coin like objects were recovered from a depth of about 114 feet. At that depth the Illinois State Geological Survey estimates the deposits were made “sometime between 200,000 and 400,000 years ago.”
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=64
>>> The point of posting this artice???
Simply that most of the arguements against the possibility of Atlantis...is that either biblically ,man has only been on earth for 5000 years or so... or that there is no evidence pre ice-age of any real advanced civilization..
Ancient ruins and artifacts are being discovered all over the place that disprove these suppositions... I remember in religious classes as a child we were taught by the Nunns etc...that god placed these anomolies ..( lol !!! including the dinasaur bones ) around to test our faith in him ...
Every time that someone uncovers evidence of an ancient city...they immediately jump to the conclusion that this could be Atlantis... sure they could be...but at the time of Atlantis...there would also have been other nations...countries...civilizations that were equal to Atlantis...for them to trade with etc...
Note how in modern times...we.. in an altruistic sense of rightness share or impose our culture...civilization on other seemingly less advanced or advantaged peoples... eg or impose our spiritual beliefs....
I don't see how humanity would have been any different then.... or even before those times...
Cause logical reasoning will comply that if we discover prehistorical evidence of other civilizations that we could have only rumours/legends of..so to would those previous prehistorical civilizations...
We all have come to the conclusion that life etc is cyclicle...that we learn lessons from the past...
The earth is billions of years old... there are skeletons of man or prehistoric man found up to 3 million years of age..hense there is room for inumerable civilizations....
http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/09/20...r.ap/index.html
well this is one truth they can't stop from comming
these pics are from the west side of the island which deals with the father.but this island is more than 3000 sqm and that queenly city in the east with her gates of gold.
what lies in the north and south.
what lies in the north and south.
QUOTE(crystal sage @ Oct 18 2006, 06:15 PM) [snapback]1395803[/snapback]
Basically to qualify an earlier statement that there's evidence of earlier civilizations...
Also...that many other fairly advanced civilizations were about in those prehistoric days...not just Atlantis.. many submerged ruins etc have been found lately that are puzzeling many....
here's the some sites on the Japanese submerged ruins...that they suspect also could have been the lost city of Mu....dated maybe over 17000 years...
http://www.lauralee.com/japan.htm
http://www.morien-institute.org/yonaguni.html
http://www.amazon.com/Underworld-Mysteriou...tion/1400049512
http://www.tylwythteg.com/articles/cuba.html
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=91...&q=atlantis
http://www.tylwythteg.com/Atlantis.html
http://www.grahamhancock.com/underworld/
Japanese Pyramids? Complete fiction.
QUOTE(Bokonontheancient @ Oct 19 2006, 11:49 AM) [snapback]1395901[/snapback]
Japanese Pyramids? Complete fiction.
It made the news in Australia......and a show or two on the discovery channel.
They are even offering package tours to see them!!!
http://www.divejapan.com/yonaguni_monument.htm
"Air on Saturday, July 8 at 2 PM ET
On the History Channel
"Japan's Mysterious Pyramids" - Ancient Marvels
If you missed it,
DVD
is available for $24.95 as well. "
http://www.robertschoch.net/Enigmatic#####...RMS######CT.htm
http://www.abc.se/~pa/uwa/submerge.htm
http://www.divejapan.com/
Nagoya University surveyed a piece of fossil found from the site and estimated it to be about 6000 years old. That means the site was already sunken 6000 years ago.
http://www.pref.okinawa.jp/summit/tokusyu/ruins1.htm
I had to take off my shoes but, they let me run around and act like a jackass so it is all okay!
It felt GREAT!
It felt GREAT!
QUOTE(M.A.D @ Oct 19 2006, 12:30 AM) [snapback]1395772[/snapback]
there is no natural way that bedrock can be carved like this.
It's a map showing river, contours lines and property boundaries. The contour lines show valleys and ridges identical to valleys and ridges everywhere in the world. You should see one of the Scottish Highlands!
QUOTE(Essan @ Oct 19 2006, 09:54 AM) [snapback]1396271[/snapback]
It's a map showing river, contours lines and property boundaries. The contour lines show valleys and ridges identical to valleys and ridges everywhere in the world. You should see one of the Scottish Highlands!
what i would like is for you to explaine the shadows that lie beneth the earth in those pics,
which can clearly be seen.
you see essan scotland is way over there which i consiter earth ,god our father split heaven and earth so the story is told.
remember that great abiss that divides
here is another pic that shows those shadows which for generations were carved in the bedrock.
that pic that i showed is of a place that i found on my seach for the self in me.
that that is the mother is in the east (golden gate city).
that that is in the west is of the father and this is what i mean,
the father our god in truth has 4 liveing beasts that surrand his throne.
here is the eagle that backs the throne.
here is the bull and lione.
the face is the gaspe pennisula at the mouth of the st, lawerents.
and if you go with a striaght line from the tip of the paws of the lione to cape breton island
you will end up at this throne were from the top p.e.i looks like a boat that wieghs heavy in the water and yes that is the name that the mic-mac have given p.e.i today.
and that is how the father is in this story of atlantis.
that that is the mother is in the east (golden gate city).
that that is in the west is of the father and this is what i mean,
the father our god in truth has 4 liveing beasts that surrand his throne.
here is the eagle that backs the throne.
here is the bull and lione.
the face is the gaspe pennisula at the mouth of the st, lawerents.
and if you go with a striaght line from the tip of the paws of the lione to cape breton island
you will end up at this throne were from the top p.e.i looks like a boat that wieghs heavy in the water and yes that is the name that the mic-mac have given p.e.i today.
and that is how the father is in this story of atlantis.
QUOTE(M.A.D @ Oct 19 2006, 01:26 PM) [snapback]1396796[/snapback]
here is another pic that shows those shadows which for generations were carved in the bedrock.
this is clearly not a picture of the REAL land... it's some kind of survey map, that's been colorized... what are you trying to point out?
QUOTE(M.A.D @ Oct 19 2006, 02:15 PM) [snapback]1396850[/snapback]
that pic that i showed is of a place that i found on my seach for the self in me.
that that is the mother is in the east (golden gate city).
that that is in the west is of the father and this is what i mean,
the father our god in truth has 4 liveing beasts that surrand his throne.
here is the eagle that backs the throne.
here is the bull and lione.
the face is the gaspe pennisula at the mouth of the st, lawerents.
and if you go with a striaght line from the tip of the paws of the lione to cape breton island
you will end up at this throne were from the top p.e.i looks like a boat that wieghs heavy in the water and yes that is the name that the mic-mac have given p.e.i today.
and that is how the father is in this story of atlantis.
M.A.D, some people might see faces in the following pictures...
it's called Pareidolia...
LINK-> Pareidolia
http://www.dirtbrothers.org/Peotone/anomaly/anom.html
sunken city????
http://www.satellitediscoveries.com/discov...ork/line_6.html
similar to those photos of the Chinese pyramids
http://www.satellitediscoveries.com/discov...riangle_19.html
The triangles of nature????
http://www.satellitediscoveries.com/discov...ngles/main.html
***************
Satellite Archeology...
http://satellitediscoveries.typepad.com/we...news/index.html
sunken city????
http://www.satellitediscoveries.com/discov...ork/line_6.html
similar to those photos of the Chinese pyramids
http://www.satellitediscoveries.com/discov...riangle_19.html
The triangles of nature????
http://www.satellitediscoveries.com/discov...ngles/main.html
***************
Satellite Archeology...
http://satellitediscoveries.typepad.com/we...news/index.html
QUOTE(Pax Unum @ Oct 19 2006, 07:56 PM) [snapback]1396904[/snapback]
this is clearly not a picture of the REAL land... it's some kind of survey map, that's been colorized... what are you trying to point out?
here is the orig.
and here is after i colorized a part that i magnafide.
by colorizing i brought the bedrock to the forfront and the shadows can be seen.
thoughs shadows is what i'm saying that which was carved by the atlanteans.
crystal sage i enjoy the links thank you.
try looking on cape breton and see what you find.
try looking on cape breton and see what you find.
QUOTE(M.A.D @ Oct 19 2006, 04:53 PM) [snapback]1397101[/snapback]
here is the orig.
<img src='http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m55/mad03/garden of eden/oucp.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
and here is after i colorized a part that i magnafide.
by colorizing i brought the bedrock to the forfront and the shadows can be seen.
thoughs shadows is what i'm saying that which was carved by the atlanteans.
I still don't see anything 'Atlantean", could you point out the carvings?
pax unum take this pic there is no natrul way that granoid rock can form like this and the glaciers well they can't carve it ether, so to shine on what i said in the first place the secret to atlantis is writen in stone that of the cape breton highlands.
QUOTE(M.A.D @ Oct 19 2006, 05:02 PM) [snapback]1397118[/snapback]
crystal sage i enjoy the links thank you.
try looking on cape breton and see what you find.
yes, crystal sage, thanks for the interesting links... I don't see what they have to do with Atlantis being a real place or not though...
it seems pretty clear, the destruction of the advanced Thera/Minoan culture was the inspiration for Plato's Atlantis story... IMO
point out the carvings they are right there in front of you, the whole island is carved this is just one mt cape breton is over 3000 sq miles,theres over a 1000 miles of fire roads on the highlands alone.are you blind the island itself is the prof.
QUOTE(M.A.D @ Oct 19 2006, 05:22 PM) [snapback]1397134[/snapback]
pax unum take this pic there is no natrul way that granoid rock can form like this and the glaciers well they can't carve it ether, so to shine on what i said in the first place the secret to atlantis is writen in stone that of the cape breton highlands.
what does 'granoid' mean? I can't find the word... I still don't see anything artificial, glaciers are very powerful earth movers and shapers.
QUOTE(Pax Unum @ Oct 19 2006, 10:27 PM) [snapback]1397145[/snapback]
yes, crystal sage, thanks for the interesting links... I don't see what they have to do with Atlantis being a real place or not though...
it seems pretty clear, the destruction of the advanced Thera/Minoan culture was the inspiration for Plato's Atlantis story... IMO
i was talking about the satilite pics,thera/minoan culture they were inside the pillars.
QUOTE(M.A.D @ Oct 19 2006, 05:31 PM) [snapback]1397149[/snapback]
point out the carvings they are right there in front of you, the whole island is carved this is just one mt cape breton is over 3000 sq miles,theres over a 1000 miles of fire roads on the highlands alone.are you blind the island itself is the prof.
it's only obvious to you... IMO
QUOTE(Pax Unum @ Oct 19 2006, 10:39 PM) [snapback]1397159[/snapback]
what does 'granoid' mean? I can't find the word... I still don't see anything artificial, glaciers are very powerful earth movers and shapers.
granit rock sorry for the spelling,as for glaciers yes they are very powerful earth movers
but usally they go in a straight line with gravity pulling them along ,like in n.y state were you can see were the glaciers scraped the bedrock in a striaght flow.
in the pics i showed you the bedrock doesn't show these signs.
QUOTE(Pax Unum @ Oct 19 2006, 10:42 PM) [snapback]1397162[/snapback]
it's only obvious to you... IMO
what you can't see you can't see not evey body can see thats why i shaded the shadows with the colores of the rainbow,
but blindness is abound can you hear what i'm saying atleast.
QUOTE(M.A.D @ Oct 19 2006, 05:40 PM) [snapback]1397161[/snapback]
i was talking about the satilite pics,thera/minoan culture they were inside the pillars.
you just don't get it... it was a story, there is no real place called Atlantis, there never was... except for Plato's account in a STORY, a island named Atlantis was unknown to the ancients...
Was Atlantis..an Island?...a country?...a nation???..
Could it have been an empire like the British Empire of the Old??.( Danaans? http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/celt/lfic/lfic085.htm ).. or a Europe??.( Thracians? http://www.osterholm.info/thracian.html ). an Eastern, Nation.. ( probably Mu? http://www.burlingtonnews.net/leumurian1.html ) or Asian (Sumerian) or an American???( Lemurians http://www.villagebooks-mtshasta.com/mounshashomo.html )..... African...???there are legend of various great nations...civilizations... and much evidence of ancient..ruins of past..prehistoric great civilizations... http://www.atlantisrising.com/issue1/ar1topten.html
...there are legends of mythical civilizations everywhere... and we are finding evidence or more and more prehistoric... civilizations..
with Satellite Archeology... sonic...and other technology...we'd soon be able to find much more...
It may only be a matter of matching up clues from various legends..with the archeological finds and re-writing...or updating history... It's a shame how with modern technology and knowhow of modern times... and the freedom of old constraints in belief systems from cultural and religious influences... (and the bravery of some modern scholars...scientists etc...to realize that they may have been mistaken in previous held beliefs...) not to put more energy into it...
Can you imagine how many schoolbooks may have to be updated???
Great for the publishing industry....
Could it have been an empire like the British Empire of the Old??.( Danaans? http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/celt/lfic/lfic085.htm ).. or a Europe??.( Thracians? http://www.osterholm.info/thracian.html ). an Eastern, Nation.. ( probably Mu? http://www.burlingtonnews.net/leumurian1.html ) or Asian (Sumerian) or an American???( Lemurians http://www.villagebooks-mtshasta.com/mounshashomo.html )..... African...???there are legend of various great nations...civilizations... and much evidence of ancient..ruins of past..prehistoric great civilizations... http://www.atlantisrising.com/issue1/ar1topten.html
...there are legends of mythical civilizations everywhere... and we are finding evidence or more and more prehistoric... civilizations..
with Satellite Archeology... sonic...and other technology...we'd soon be able to find much more...
It may only be a matter of matching up clues from various legends..with the archeological finds and re-writing...or updating history... It's a shame how with modern technology and knowhow of modern times... and the freedom of old constraints in belief systems from cultural and religious influences... (and the bravery of some modern scholars...scientists etc...to realize that they may have been mistaken in previous held beliefs...) not to put more energy into it...
Can you imagine how many schoolbooks may have to be updated???
Great for the publishing industry....
QUOTE(crystal sage @ Oct 19 2006, 02:48 AM) [snapback]1396230[/snapback]
It made the news in Australia......and a show or two on the discovery channel.
They are even offering package tours to see them!!!
http://www.divejapan.com/yonaguni_monument.htm
"Air on Saturday, July 8 at 2 PM ET
On the History Channel
"Japan's Mysterious Pyramids" - Ancient Marvels
If you missed it,
DVD
is available for $24.95 as well. "
http://www.robertschoch.net/Enigmatic#####...RMS######CT.htm
http://www.abc.se/~pa/uwa/submerge.htm
http://www.divejapan.com/
Nagoya University surveyed a piece of fossil found from the site and estimated it to be about 6000 years old. That means the site was already sunken 6000 years ago.
http://www.pref.okinawa.jp/summit/tokusyu/ruins1.htm
Looks like natural rock formations to me.
QUOTE(Pax Unum @ Oct 19 2006, 11:09 PM) [snapback]1397195[/snapback]
you just don't get it... it was a story, there is no real place called Atlantis, there never was... except for Plato's account in a STORY, a island named Atlantis was unknown to the ancients...
this is what i do get blind one the island that i talk about it's name back then was poseidonis,that was known to the ancients
i call it the capital island of atlantis because that is were the kings of the world at that time would come evey 5-6 years to dictate law and past judgement so the story goes.
pax unum just because you don't see do's not mean that it is not there ,
the time when the atlatean people walked the earth they were living in the bedrock ,carveing it as they went on generation apone generation.
the name of the place is of no matter , but that island that i'm talking about is poseidonis
if you want a name.
QUOTE(crystal sage @ Oct 20 2006, 12:08 AM) [snapback]1397243[/snapback]
Was Atlantis..an Island?...a country?...a nation???..
Could it have been an empire like the British Empire of the Old??.( Danaans? http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/celt/lfic/lfic085.htm ).. or a Europe??.( Thracians? http://www.osterholm.info/thracian.html ). an Eastern, Nation.. ( probably Mu? http://www.burlingtonnews.net/leumurian1.html ) or Asian (Sumerian) or an American???( Lemurians http://www.villagebooks-mtshasta.com/mounshashomo.html )..... African...???there are legend of various great nations...civilizations... and much evidence of ancient..ruins of past..prehistoric great civilizations... http://www.atlantisrising.com/issue1/ar1topten.html
...there are legends of mythical civilizations everywhere... and we are finding evidence or more and more prehistoric... civilizations..
with Satellite Archeology... sonic...and other technology...we'd soon be able to find much more...
It may only be a matter of matching up clues from various legends..with the archeological finds and re-writing...or updating history... It's a shame how with modern technology and knowhow of modern times... and the freedom of old constraints in belief systems from cultural and religious influences... (and the bravery of some modern scholars...scientists etc...to realize that they may have been mistaken in previous held beliefs...) not to put more energy into it...
Can you imagine how many schoolbooks may have to be updated???
Great for the publishing industry....
it was a contanit that was made up of islands the ones to the south can be seen (carabean)and in the north well there are hundreds of island in northern can,
the larger ones were squished together,you can see this by the fault lines that run north and south and east and west through north america i would have consiter it a nation,the first civilization that was.
QUOTE(M.A.D @ Oct 19 2006, 02:40 PM) [snapback]1396411[/snapback]
what i would like is for you to explaine the shadows that lie beneth the earth in those pics,
which can clearly be seen.
You are insane. You're finding something because you're looking for it.
QUOTE(M.A.D @ Oct 19 2006, 11:17 PM) [snapback]1397499[/snapback]
pax unum just because you don't see do's not mean that it is not there ,
the time when the atlatean people walked the earth they were living in the bedrock ,carveing it as they went on generation apone generation.
the name of the place is of no matter , but that island that i'm talking about is poseidonis
if you want a name.
no one but you see anything (because there is nothing to see)... enjoy your fantasies...
QUOTE(MVxK @ Oct 20 2006, 11:47 AM) [snapback]1397702[/snapback]
You are insane. You're finding something because you're looking for it.
you say i'm insane because i found what i'm looking for?
all that you say can't stop what has been started.
if you can't see what i see,well its like waiting in line for a ride but only finding out that your not tall enuff to get on.
QUOTE(crystal sage @ Oct 19 2006, 07:08 PM) [snapback]1397243[/snapback]
Was Atlantis..an Island?...a country?...a nation???..
Could it have been an empire like the British Empire of the Old??.( Danaans? http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/celt/lfic/lfic085.htm ).. or a Europe??.( Thracians? http://www.osterholm.info/thracian.html ). an Eastern, Nation.. ( probably Mu? http://www.burlingtonnews.net/leumurian1.html ) or Asian (Sumerian) or an American???( Lemurians http://www.villagebooks-mtshasta.com/mounshashomo.html )..... African...???there are legend of various great nations...civilizations... and much evidence of ancient..ruins of past..prehistoric great civilizations... http://www.atlantisrising.com/issue1/ar1topten.html
...there are legends of mythical civilizations everywhere... and we are finding evidence or more and more prehistoric... civilizations..
with Satellite Archeology... sonic...and other technology...we'd soon be able to find much more...
It may only be a matter of matching up clues from various legends..with the archeological finds and re-writing...or updating history... It's a shame how with modern technology and knowhow of modern times... and the freedom of old constraints in belief systems from cultural and religious influences... (and the bravery of some modern scholars...scientists etc...to realize that they may have been mistaken in previous held beliefs...) not to put more energy into it...
Can you imagine how many schoolbooks may have to be updated???
Great for the publishing industry....
I hope you don't believe all the BS these sites are dumping...
QUOTE(Pax Unum @ Oct 20 2006, 07:44 PM) [snapback]1398195[/snapback]
I hope you don't believe all the BS these sites are dumping...
pax if i can call you by your first name i think i told you before or was it someone else,
i believe in the father,mother,son,and the holy ghost holds me together in form.
i was intrested in the satilite pics in those links as for my beliefs that is in the father our god.
pax in life ones junk is anothers tresure.but there is only one truth and i believe that what i showed is a big part of that ,soon that spark will be a roaring blaise and when you see that torch come out of ulsa miner i think thats how it's spelt, you will know that that door in heaven will be open and the truth will be know'n but first a special key must open that door that john saw this is the generation for things come.
In my opinion Atlantis is a contrivance similar to Heaven as a pyschological crutch against pondering the unknowable. It may have started out in a story by Plato but has now become a symbol for 'where have we come from?'
To consider the myth of Atlantis as a truth you must also consider why this should be the 'progenitor society'? I do agree that civilisation started somewhere but we only have to look at the Tigris-Euphrates, Haung He, Indus and Nile valleys for these answers. Crete and Central America may also be included.
If you start saying 'Well they had to get their knowledge of civilisation from somewhere' then you get into a circular argument as any preceding civilisation would also have had to 'get their knowledge from somewhere'. To state there was a radial dissemination of civilisation from a central point of origin you have to overlook the several centuries there are between some of these cultures emerging.
Currently the Mesopotamian culture is generally accepted as having chronological priority with cities and writing developed by about 3500BC. This did not occur in any of the other cultures for several centuries after (around 3000 - 2700BC for the Huang He, Indus, and Nile civilisations). This seems to indicate that Mesopotamia WAS the precursor civilisation - not to say they migrated out to the other areas, but they developed first and then shared their knowledge with other civilisations they met and traded with.
All just my opinion of course...
To consider the myth of Atlantis as a truth you must also consider why this should be the 'progenitor society'? I do agree that civilisation started somewhere but we only have to look at the Tigris-Euphrates, Haung He, Indus and Nile valleys for these answers. Crete and Central America may also be included.
If you start saying 'Well they had to get their knowledge of civilisation from somewhere' then you get into a circular argument as any preceding civilisation would also have had to 'get their knowledge from somewhere'. To state there was a radial dissemination of civilisation from a central point of origin you have to overlook the several centuries there are between some of these cultures emerging.
Currently the Mesopotamian culture is generally accepted as having chronological priority with cities and writing developed by about 3500BC. This did not occur in any of the other cultures for several centuries after (around 3000 - 2700BC for the Huang He, Indus, and Nile civilisations). This seems to indicate that Mesopotamia WAS the precursor civilisation - not to say they migrated out to the other areas, but they developed first and then shared their knowledge with other civilisations they met and traded with.
All just my opinion of course...
QUOTE(Leonardo @ Oct 20 2006, 09:38 PM) [snapback]1398276[/snapback]
In my opinion Atlantis is a contrivance similar to Heaven as a pyschological crutch against pondering the unknowable. It may have started out in a story by Plato but has now become a symbol for 'where have we come from?'
To consider the myth of Atlantis as a truth you must also consider why this should be the 'progenitor society'? I do agree that civilisation started somewhere but we only have to look at the Tigris-Euphrates, Haung He, Indus and Nile valleys for these answers. Crete and Central America may also be included.
If you start saying 'Well they had to get their knowledge of civilisation from somewhere' then you get into a circular argument as any preceding civilisation would also have had to 'get their knowledge from somewhere'. To state there was a radial dissemination of civilisation from a central point of origin you have to overlook the several centuries there are between some of these cultures emerging.
Currently the Mesopotamian culture is generally accepted as having chronological priority with cities and writing developed by about 3500BC. This did not occur in any of the other cultures for several centuries after (around 3000 - 2700BC for the Huang He, Indus, and Nile civilisations). This seems to indicate that Mesopotamia WAS the precursor civilisation - not to say they migrated out to the other areas, but they developed first and then shared their knowledge with other civilisations they met and traded with.
All just my opinion of course...
and to say what i'm saying those that started there were you have said are the ones that stole the light and called it for there own,thats all
QUOTE(M.A.D @ Oct 20 2006, 03:46 PM) [snapback]1398244[/snapback]
pax if i can call you by your first name i think i told you before or was it someone else,
i believe in the father,mother,son,and the holy ghost holds me together in form.
i was intrested in the satilite pics in those links as for my beliefs that is in the father our god.
pax in life ones junk is anothers tresure.but there is only one truth and i believe that what i showed is a big part of that ,soon that spark will be a roaring blaise and when you see that torch come out of ulsa miner i think thats how it's spelt, you will know that that door in heaven will be open and the truth will be know'n but first a special key must open that door that john saw this is the generation for things come.
feel free to call me Pax... your religious beliefs are up to you... but, applying a religion that didn't exist yet, to a place that never existed is ludicrous... seeing 'shapes' in land masses is also absurd, Italy looks like a boot, was it also artificially shaped in prehistoric times, as a sign of ancient shoe making gods?
and sometimes junk is junk...
are you referring to the constellation of Ursa Minor?
I don't keep up with the various religious dogma, so I'm not sure what the reference to the 'spark/roaring blaze/torch' coming from (Ursa Minor?) connects with anything Atlantean, or the door and key for that matter...
to me you sound confused, with a myth of your own design... I don't mean to offend
QUOTE(M.A.D @ Oct 20 2006, 02:46 PM) [snapback]1398244[/snapback]
pax if i can call you by your first name i think i told you before or was it someone else,
i believe in the father,mother,son,and the holy ghost holds me together in form.
i was intrested in the satilite pics in those links as for my beliefs that is in the father our god.
pax in life ones junk is anothers tresure.but there is only one truth and i believe that what i showed is a big part of that ,soon that spark will be a roaring blaise and when you see that torch come out of ulsa miner i think thats how it's spelt, you will know that that door in heaven will be open and the truth will be know'n but first a special key must open that door that john saw this is the generation for things come.
Is your first language English, I can't tell. You mis-spell a ton of things and come up with no relevant argument.
- Bokonon
QUOTE(Pax Unum @ Oct 20 2006, 09:51 PM) [snapback]1398291[/snapback]
feel free to call me Pax... your religious beliefs are up to you... but, applying a religion that didn't exist yet, to a place that never existed is ludicrous... seeing 'shapes' in land masses is also absurd, Italy looks like a boot, was it also artificially shaped in prehistoric times, as a sign of ancient shoe making gods?
and sometimes junk is junk...
are you referring to the constellation of Ursa Minor?
I don't keep up with the various religious dogma, so I'm not sure what the reference to the 'spark/roaring blaze/torch' coming from (Ursa Minor?) connects with anything Atlantean, or the door and key for that matter...
to me you sound confused, with a myth of your own design... I don't mean to offend
who said anything about religious i'm the ferthest from the church and as for the bible i read the mystery of it,as i do other books of intrest,the consept of christ and the father
has been around for a long long time and i'm not talking about jesus the man of flesh and bone for he walked 2000 + years ago no the one cosmic christ that wore jesus as a coat of flesh.
as for the father well in life as we live you need the father and mother to make you in flesh and bone here today.
and i would look at you and see your mother in flesh and father in spirit.
because you can't have one without the other,your living proof.
QUOTE(Bokonontheancient @ Oct 21 2006, 12:27 AM) [snapback]1398442[/snapback]
Is your first language English, I can't tell. You mis-spell a ton of things and come up with no relevant argument.
- Bokonon
by what you say i see your new to me this is proabley two or three threads on atlantis please exuse my grammer i am who i am this is me
but i try to speak the truth as i know it.
back to atlantis and the truth as i see for i'am here for i have showen.
why the father and mother are so important in atlantis or that island called poseidonis or
the capital island as i would say because of its uniqu geological make up that is simalar to cape breton,
the atlanteans were big on commers with there golden gate city which plato brought us.
this motherly city in the east which there temple sat apon a small hill in the middel of a small plain.
fit to be queen it was, that is were they drank the blood of bulls and were inspired by mother earth and all that she brought forth to dicktate law of the land.
and i can take you there for its a deep dark hole at the bottom and sometimes stinky if the wind is blowing right, cut off from the father it would be hell.
but at the top you got that tempal for which they drank.
and funny today theres a radar for wether apone it now.
this is in the east of the island then and now visit sydney n. s i should take pics awee if i only had a digatal camera from the top it is a beautuful site with the mt that seem like they surrand you with a awe of beauty .
awee is the only way that i can desribe the harmonie of land sea and sky and at night its bliss.its 20 after 3 my time, i need sleep talk father tommorwo
why the father and mother are so important in atlantis or that island called poseidonis or
the capital island as i would say because of its uniqu geological make up that is simalar to cape breton,
the atlanteans were big on commers with there golden gate city which plato brought us.
this motherly city in the east which there temple sat apon a small hill in the middel of a small plain.
fit to be queen it was, that is were they drank the blood of bulls and were inspired by mother earth and all that she brought forth to dicktate law of the land.
and i can take you there for its a deep dark hole at the bottom and sometimes stinky if the wind is blowing right, cut off from the father it would be hell.
but at the top you got that tempal for which they drank.
and funny today theres a radar for wether apone it now.
this is in the east of the island then and now visit sydney n. s i should take pics awee if i only had a digatal camera from the top it is a beautuful site with the mt that seem like they surrand you with a awe of beauty .
awee is the only way that i can desribe the harmonie of land sea and sky and at night its bliss.its 20 after 3 my time, i need sleep talk father tommorwo
QUOTE(M.A.D @ Oct 21 2006, 12:03 AM) [snapback]1398671[/snapback]
who said anything about religious i'm the ferthest from the church and as for the bible i read the mystery of it,as i do other books of intrest,the consept of christ and the father
has been around for a long long time and i'm not talking about jesus the man of flesh and bone for he walked 2000 + years ago no the one cosmic christ that wore jesus as a coat of flesh.
as for the father well in life as we live you need the father and mother to make you in flesh and bone here today.
and i would look at you and see your mother in flesh and father in spirit.
because you can't have one without the other,your living proof.
what?... who's the father and mother? what do they have to do with Atlantis?
QUOTE(Pax Unum @ Oct 21 2006, 02:35 PM) [snapback]1398988[/snapback]
what?... who's the father and mother? what do they have to do with Atlantis?
the mother is the golden gate city in the east and the father is throne apon high in the west
on the capital island that is.
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