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G = 3 (gimel)
e = 5 (heh)
o = 70 (ayin)
r = 200 (resh)
g = 3 (gimel)
e = 5 (heh)
B = 2 (beth)
u = 70 (ayin)
s = 300 (shin)
h = 8 (cheth)
total = 666 (Antichrist)


The Bush/Nero Connection

Who is the Real Anti-Christ? Over the last 2,000 years many have claimed to know. All of them have seemingly been wrong. So what makes me any different? The plain facts, and an historical perspective..

The term "antichrist' was first used in the most recent books of the Bible, ( 1 John 2:18) " many antichrists have made their appearance." Most Biblical scholars believe that St. John was referring to members of a Gnostic Christian cult. For the early church, all those actively working against the spirit of Christ were considered antichrists, whether or not they called themselves Christians. As St. Augustine would later put it: “There you have the Antichrist – everyone who denies Christ by his works.”

At the same time, the early church believed that there would be one individual, a single man whose evil deeds would far exceed all the others; and that this individual would make his appearance just before the second coming of Jesus. Jesus called him ( Mark 13:14) "the abomination of desolation" Paul referred to him as the ( 2 thess 2:3) "man of sin" and "son of perdition". John in his letter and in his Revelation to the church called him "the beast" or "antichrist."

Most scholars believe that the antichrist in the book of Revelation was Nero, emperor of Rome from 54 - 68 AD. Nero was the first emperor who persecuted the church with a vengeance, blaming Christians for the burning of Rome, and torturing them to death in the Forum. Both St. Paul and St. Peter were executed by Nero. After Nero was forced to commit suicide, it was widely believed that Nero was still alive in Parthia (the middle east), hiding out (much like Elvis), and that he would soon return to reclaim his throne. As late as the fifth century AD, Lactantius (240-320 A.D.), Jerome (340-420 A.D.) and St. Augustine (354-430 A.D.) all still assumed that the Antichrist would turn out to be a kind of resuscitated Nero.

Were they wrong? Certainly Nero the man never returned from the dead, and the church eventually looked elsewhere for the antichrist - but that doesn't invalidate the prophecy. Nero has indeed returned, but not as Nero the Roman emperor, he's returned in spirit as George W Bush, the 43rd (P)resident of the United States.. Nero was only a foreshadowing of the last antichrist. This final and most powerful antichrist in history is prepared to finish the evil campaign that first began with Nero almost 2,000 years ago.

Most Biblical historians, including Barclay, believed that 666 was in reference to Emperor Nero. The Hebrew transliteration (without vowels) of Nero's Latin name, Caesar Nero, (QWSR NRWN) adds up to 666 using the Hebrew alphabet above. But St. John gave us this number (666) rather than his name (Nero) so that we could identify him today. Because as I have already demonstrated conclusively in exhibit #1, George Bush has the mark of the beast like no other man in human history.

The Beast and His Brain: One of the mysteries of Revelation has been the identity and connection of a second beast who rescues the antichrist and serves as his prophet. Rev 13:12 "He exercised all the authority of the first beast on his behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast." Carl Rove rescued bush from political death after his defeat in a Congressional race, and since 1993 he has served as the brains and the cleverness of the antichrist. There is even a new best-selling book by that title "Bush's Brain". No mere presidential advisor has ever held so much power. He is often referred to as 'President Rove', and even other people within the bush regime worry about his growing influence and power. Every decision bush makes is calculated and spun by Rove for political effect, with absolutely no regard for the truth. A true prophet divines the will of God in order to help lead a nation in the path of truth and righteousness. But a false prophet like Rove can predict the moods and weaknesses of the people in order to manipulate public opinion and start wars under false pretenses in order to advance his evil agenda.



the Bush/Herod Connection

George W. Bush is very closely related to the House of Windsor and the British Royal Family, and he is also related to just about every other Royal family in Europe. In fact, George Jr. is more closely related to British royalty by blood than his own father is. Why? Because of the blue-blood of the Pierce family running through his mother's veins. Bush is not only the wealthiest president we've ever had, he's also the purest aristocrat ever to sit in the White House. Why is this so important to our discussion? Because in his recent book, The Antichrist and a Cup of Tea, author Tim Cohen has meticulously documented why he believes the Antichrist must be someone who, like Bush, is closely related to the British Royal family. Though Cohen's prime suspect seems to be Prince Charles, clearly George Bush is a much better candidate for the role.


Bush's bloodline is also tied into the 13th bloodline of the Illuminati. According to some, the Illuminati are a group of rich, powerful, satanically inspired families who have conspired throughout history to rule the earth, even to the present day. This thirteenth or 'royal' illuminati bloodline is the one that is widely believed to lead directly to the final Antichrist.

Noted British author David Icke has traced the Bush bloodline as far back as Phillip of Macedonia, the father of Alexander the Great, who established the Greek World Empire. From that point, the Bush bloodline passes through the principal ruling families of the Roman Empire and eventually through European royalty as well. He is also descended from Queen Cleopatra, royal consort to Julius Caesar. Icke comments that "She also bore twins with Mark Anthony, who has his own connections to this line and its many offshoots" Marc Anthony happens to be the great-Grandfather of Emperor Nero. So now there is also a definite blood connection between Emperor Nero, the original Biblical prototype for the Antichrist, and George W Bush. The Bush bloodline also passes directly through Herod the Great, the Judean King who originally tried to murder Jesus as a child, and he is related to Herod Antipas, who murdered John the Baptist and turned Jesus over to Pilate to be crucified.

the Bush/Judas Connection


Understanding the psychology of Judas Iscariot is a good way of understanding the Antichrist. Judas was a model or template for the way in which the Antichrist would betray Christ, even while pretending to be a disciple and follower of Christ. You could say that George Bush is a reincarnation of Judas Iscariot, because he thinks and acts and is motivated in precisely the same way.

Remember that Judas is the disciple who betrayed Jesus for money. For thirty pieces of silver to be exact. The Bible is very clear that this is what he did, and that is what actually happened. But what it doesn’t tell us is how he rationalized this betrayal in his own mind. It doesn’t tell us because it was basically a lie and rationalization, and so it really didn’t matter. But it is clear that Judas did not see himself a greedy man who sold out Jesus for money, even though that’s what he was and that’s exactly what he did. The same is very true with Bush – and with most fundamentalist Christians today.

We know that Judas was a greedy man because the Bible tells us he kept the money for the group, and it also says that he was a thief, so he must have been stealing all along. At one point Judas objects that Jesus is being anointed with costly ointment, because he rationalizes that it could have been sold and used to help the poor. But he really didn’t want to help the poor – he only wanted more money to steal for himself. In the same way Bush rationalizes that all his tax cuts for the rich were really to stimulate the economy, and provide jobs and prosperity for the poor. But in truth he cares nothing about the poor, and in fact the poor are poorer and much more numerous since he came to power. Like Judas, Bush has been put in charge of the US treasury, and his real goal is to raid it on behalf of himself and all his rich pals. He is a thief. But exactly like Judas, he uses a pretended concern for the poor as a pretext and cover for his theft from the government purse.

Eventually Judas sells Jesus out for money, but it is obvious that he didn’t understand the real extent of his betrayal, anymore than Bush does today. Only at the very end, when he finally saw himself for what he really was, and understood what he had done, did he throw away the money and go hang himself. He hung himself because he could not live with the truth of what he was.

The truth is that he had deceived himself as much as he had deceived everyone around him. Jesus had constantly warned about the deceitfulness of riches, but it’s not the sort of warning Judas ever took very seriously. Nor has Bush. So what kind of rationalization did Judas give himself for betraying Christ? Did he tell himself it was only to force Jesus to take a more aggressive stand against Roman occupation? Did he convince himself that he could help hurry along the coming of the Kingdom of God? In spite of all the evidence to the contrary, had he convinced himself of what a lot of other people already believed – that Jesus was crazy, or a charlatan, and that finally he needed to be stopped for his own good? Whatever the reason he gave himself, it was not the real reason. The real reason is greed.

In the same manner Bush has betrayed and lied to his own countrymen, and got us involved in a bloody war in Iraq. He told us it was over weapons of mass destruction, but that was a lie. He still tells himself it is to establish freedom and democracy in the Middle East, but that is a lie and a rationalization as well. The real reason is greed for oil.

Why did Judas betray Jesus with a kiss? Isn’t it because he didn’t yet understand the true depth of his own betrayal? So why should we expect Bush to understand? The fact that Judas didn’t understand until the very end, the sort of evil person he really was, did not make him or his betrayal any less evil. It is our actions that count, not how good we are at rationalizing our most evil actions. The latter is something that the most evil people are always good at doing. Including Bush.
AROCES
And Bill Clinton, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton and the rest of the democrats are suppose to be the angels of them all I suppose?
So, we elected the 3rd anti Christ as our President twice. Live with it.
Kaknelson
Hmmmmm................

Interesting.
Gsus Da Funk
I don't think that you even elected him. As far as I understand Gore had more votes than Bush but his brother helped him out. And the second election was made russian way, fixed from the beginning...
SecondHeartbeat
the real winner here is jesus
Pagan_2k
QUOTE(Gsus Da Funk @ Jul 17 2006, 09:11 AM) [snapback]1272818[/snapback]

I don't think that you even elected him. As far as I understand Gore had more votes than Bush but his brother helped him out. And the second election was made russian way, fixed from the beginning...


Its not the votes that count, but who counts the votes, and now its on a machine -pathetic.

Anyway, check this site, its the complete version of the original post...
http://www.bushisantichrist.com

Its very interesting however I would like to point out that its possible to prove that lots of people are the antichrist, my personal theory is that its going to be Schwarzenegger but that is besides the point.
The anti-christ is not some nearly god-like son of the devil with usper powers and an army of daemons.
The anti-christ is a term used to describe someone that goes against nature and god work.
Napolean and Hitler are said to be the first and second however I feel there have been more.
AROCES
QUOTE(Gsus Da Funk @ Jul 17 2006, 07:11 AM) [snapback]1272818[/snapback]

I don't think that you even elected him. As far as I understand Gore had more votes than Bush but his brother helped him out. And the second election was made russian way, fixed from the beginning...


- There are those who thought Bush would win the popular vote but Gore will win the electoral(which determines the winner). What happened was the other way around.
Gore lost in Florida after recounting, it was so close that made it hard for the other side accept defeat.
- The democrats had lawyers and watchdogs dispatched all over the country to safeguard the election and make sure they won't be cheated again, they lost and still they claim they got cheated AGAIN!
What were those watchdogs and lawyers doing then??? They are to be blamed then, right?
Gsus Da Funk
Well if they are in this thing together so the only ones who got screwd was the people of US. And don't bother to ask from main media, it's owned by them.
AROCES
QUOTE(Gsus Da Funk @ Jul 17 2006, 08:28 AM) [snapback]1272875[/snapback]

Well if they are in this thing together so the only ones who got screwd was the people of US. And don't bother to ask from main media, it's owned by them.


Life will never be fair all the time. I still believe there are more good people than the bad ones. It's not really as bad as some sees it, it's just they are not in power that is why they see things as doomed!
MysticRider
QUOTE(AROCES @ Jul 17 2006, 04:07 AM) [snapback]1272864[/snapback]

- There are those who thought Bush would win the popular vote but Gore will win the electoral(which determines the winner). What happened was the other way around.
Gore lost in Florida after recounting, it was so close that made it hard for the other side accept defeat.
- The democrats had lawyers and watchdogs dispatched all over the country to safeguard the election and make sure they won't be cheated again, they lost and still they claim they got cheated AGAIN!
What were those watchdogs and lawyers doing then??? They are to be blamed then, right?


I lived in Florida when Jeb gave his brother the election. There was alot more to the story that never made it to the national press. Such as democrates being turned a way from the polls.cities that where mostly democratic, coming out as mostly republician. I wonder why they never show the news clip of bush saying he wasn't worried about winning fl because his brother asured him he had it, and this was even before the counts were in for the night.As for the second election the fix was in from the begining.

but, these are just my opinions.
Nasadude85
QUOTE(Pagan_2k @ Jul 17 2006, 07:17 AM) [snapback]1272828[/snapback]

Its not the votes that count, but who counts the votes, and now its on a machine -pathetic.

Anyway, check this site, its the complete version of the original post...
http://www.bushisantichrist.com

The anti-christ is a term used to describe someone that goes against nature and god work.
Napolean and Hitler are said to be the first and second however I feel there have been more.

Why does everyone think Napoleon was like Hitler Jr.? He wasn't that bad...

Hey... How could Bush just happen to be related to like every important person in history? Like how can he be related to Philip the Great, when his son, Alexander, never married???
And then, his family moves to Egypt, which isn't exactly as nice as the Roman Empire parts of Greece/Macedon were? And then, one of these immigrant marries Queen Cleopatra???????? NOT happenning...
QUOTE
G = 3 (gimel)
e = 5 (heh)
o = 70 (ayin)
r = 200 (resh)
g = 3 (gimel)
e = 5 (heh)
B = 2 (beth)
u = 70 (ayin)
s = 300 (shin)
h = 8 (cheth)
total = 666 (Antichrist)

What a coincidence blink.gif
scoobysnack
QUOTE(MysticRider @ Jul 17 2006, 01:10 PM) [snapback]1273386[/snapback]

I lived in Florida when Jeb gave his brother the election. There was alot more to the story that never made it to the national press. Such as democrates being turned a way from the polls.cities that where mostly democratic, coming out as mostly republician. I wonder why they never show the news clip of bush saying he wasn't worried about winning fl because his brother asured him he had it, and this was even before the counts were in for the night.As for the second election the fix was in from the begining.

but, these are just my opinions.



You are more correct then you give yourself credit for. The election was stolen. I know that for a fact with documented evidence to back it up with.

My point is that news that the American people think is strictly the factual info, is actually just the opinion of the news agency. The news by law does not have to print the truth, it's completly legal for the trusted news sources to intentionaly lie or spread disinformation.

“The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. Because they control the minds of the masses.”

Some people like to think they are free thinkers, but in my experiance with them, they are usually the most controlled.

This country is going to hell.
AROCES
QUOTE(MysticRider @ Jul 17 2006, 06:10 PM) [snapback]1273386[/snapback]

I lived in Florida when Jeb gave his brother the election. There was alot more to the story that never made it to the national press. Such as democrates being turned a way from the polls.cities that where mostly democratic, coming out as mostly republician. I wonder why they never show the news clip of bush saying he wasn't worried about winning fl because his brother asured him he had it, and this was even before the counts were in for the night.As for the second election the fix was in from the begining.

but, these are just my opinions.


Where are this people who got turned away? Why did they complain after and not during that time???
So, Jeb gave his brother a word of confidence, what is so wrong about that? Jeb was actually wrong after all for the election was really so close.
Well, you knew the second election was fixed from the beginning and you like the rest complained and barked after? Who's at fault then?
Stardrive
QUOTE(scoobysnack @ Jul 17 2006, 02:46 PM) [snapback]1273436[/snapback]

“The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. Because they control the minds of the masses.”


I follow your logic Scoob, but, what if you watch very little TV and dont read the news, then what.

QUOTE(scoobysnack @ Jul 17 2006, 02:46 PM) [snapback]1273436[/snapback]

Some people like to think they are free thinkers, but in my experiance with them, they are usually the most controlled.
This country is going to hell.


Just because someone doesnt share your point of view doesnt mean they are contolled. If that were the case, alot of people would say the same of you.
MysticRider
QUOTE(AROCES @ Jul 17 2006, 10:40 PM) [snapback]1273933[/snapback]

Where are this people who got turned away? Why did they complain after and not during that time???
So, Jeb gave his brother a word of confidence, what is so wrong about that? Jeb was actually wrong after all for the election was really so close.
Well, you knew the second election was fixed from the beginning and you like the rest complained and barked after? Who's at fault then?


They did complain during the election but, no one would listen or do anything about it.
I've come to except the fact that you'll never get a Bush lover to think bad about the man.
As time goes on I do believe the man is a anti-christ.
AROCES
QUOTE(MysticRider @ Jul 19 2006, 01:29 AM) [snapback]1275195[/snapback]

They did complain during the election but, no one would listen or do anything about it.
I've come to except the fact that you'll never get a Bush lover to think bad about the man.
As time goes on I do believe the man is a anti-christ.


Do you know why thet got turned away, maybe they are in the wrong voting precint?
They can argue but if you are not registered then not much you can do about it, who knows if some of those are actually flying voters or trying to vote twice???
Bush has made some decisions that I disagree with, but he is not a bad man.
joc
How rational is it really to believe that a man who professes that his Hero is Jesus Christ is actually the anti-Christ?

Just shows how far out in never, never land the left really is. laugh.gif
Pagan_2k
QUOTE(joc @ Jul 19 2006, 04:34 AM) [snapback]1275242[/snapback]

How rational is it really to believe that a man who professes that his Hero is Jesus Christ is actually the anti-Christ?

Just shows how far out in never, never land the left really is. laugh.gif


So a confirmed, self-confessed, member of Skulls and Bones is a jesus lover?
You do realise that S&B's are a satanic group?
Worshiping Moloch at Bohemian Grove?

He was an alcoholic, has 3 offences on his prison record and says he is a christian.

What he says and what he does are two differant things.

QUOTE

You are more correct then you give yourself credit for. The election was stolen. I know that for a fact with documented evidence to back it up with.

I second that, we can more than prove it in a short space of time.

Voting on a machine, give me a break!!!!
MysticRider
QUOTE(joc @ Jul 18 2006, 10:34 PM) [snapback]1275242[/snapback]

How rational is it really to believe that a man who professes that his Hero is Jesus Christ is actually the anti-Christ?

Just shows how far out in never, never land the left really is. laugh.gif




Just because he professes it makes it , doesn't mean it's true.



Just goes to show how closed minded Bush supporters are.
AROCES
QUOTE(MysticRider @ Jul 19 2006, 11:51 AM) [snapback]1275609[/snapback]

Just because he professes it makes it , doesn't mean it's true.
Just goes to show how closed minded Bush supporters are.


Bush is in a political party that has a lot of followers of Christ, and he is anti Christ??? blink.gif
TK0001
QUOTE(AROCES @ Jul 19 2006, 01:40 PM) [snapback]1275972[/snapback]

Bush is in a political party that has a lot of followers of Christ, and he is anti Christ??? blink.gif


I'm not going so far as to label him as "the" or "an" antichrist, but if you wanted the votes of the largest voting group in the country, wouldn't it make sense to align yourself with them?

If you have the time, check out this Rolling Stone article:

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/104...election_stolen

Might shed some light.
Irish
QUOTE(AROCES @ Jul 19 2006, 11:40 AM) [snapback]1275972[/snapback]

Bush is in a political party that has a lot of followers of Christ, and he is anti Christ??? blink.gif

I remember the good old days when Ronald Reagan was the Anti-Christ. blink.gif
Bella-Angelique
QUOTE(Irish @ Jul 19 2006, 03:24 PM) [snapback]1276129[/snapback]

I remember the good old days when Ronald Reagan was the Anti-Christ. blink.gif


Remember too, when some were saying Gorbechov's birthmark was the mark of the Beast?
Irish
QUOTE(Bella-Angelique @ Jul 19 2006, 01:29 PM) [snapback]1276132[/snapback]

Remember too, when some were saying Gorbechov's birthmark was the mark of the Beast?

That reminds me a few years back when a British PM said something to the extent off “You want me to negotiate with a man that has a tattoo of the UK on his head” grin2.gif
AROCES
QUOTE(TK0001 @ Jul 19 2006, 07:13 PM) [snapback]1276108[/snapback]

I'm not going so far as to label him as "the" or "an" antichrist, but if you wanted the votes of the largest voting group in the country, wouldn't it make sense to align yourself with them?

If you have the time, check out this Rolling Stone article:

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/104...election_stolen

Might shed some light.

So, he aligns with people he is against, he ends up doing then what the people he is against so he can be their leader??? So his being aginst them does not matter anymore for they like what he is doing??? See how ridiculous it sound???
So, John Kerry lost in Ohio because he got cheated. Prior to the election the John Kerry squad dispatched election watchdog and lawyers all over the country to ensure a fair and honest election. Why not ask those dispatched what happened and why they did not do their job???
TK0001
QUOTE(AROCES @ Jul 19 2006, 03:50 PM) [snapback]1276164[/snapback]

So, he aligns with people he is against, he ends up doing then what the people he is against so he can be their leader??? So his being aginst them does not matter anymore for they like what he is doing??? See how ridiculous it sound???


Why is this so hard to believe? Politicians always pretend to be something they're not to try to get votes.

And who cares whether or not Christians "like what he's doing" - he can't get reelected anymore. They're no longer useful to him.

QUOTE(AROCES @ Jul 19 2006, 03:50 PM) [snapback]1276164[/snapback]

So, John Kerry lost in Ohio because he got cheated. Prior to the election the John Kerry squad dispatched election watchdog and lawyers all over the country to ensure a fair and honest election. Why not ask those dispatched what happened and why they did not do their job???


I don't know - why don't you ask them? There have been mulittudes of articles published since the election that have cried foul. I'm sure some of those were written by some of the Democratic watchdogs you're referring to.

Are you saying that article is entirely fake?
MysticRider
QUOTE(AROCES @ Jul 19 2006, 01:40 PM) [snapback]1275972[/snapback]

Bush is in a political party that has a lot of followers of Christ, and he is anti Christ??? blink.gif


okay your right he's not the anti-christ, he's just an a**
yari1249
very very interesting.....i cant disagree..or agree...but it sounds good ....
AROCES
QUOTE(MysticRider @ Jul 19 2006, 08:00 PM) [snapback]1276171[/snapback]

okay your right he's not the anti-christ, he's just an a**



OK, that I can relate too. You disagree with his policy, not everyone will ever agree with everything he does or any President.
AROCES
QUOTE(TK0001 @ Jul 19 2006, 07:57 PM) [snapback]1276169[/snapback]

Why is this so hard to believe? Politicians always pretend to be something they're not to try to get votes.

And who cares whether or not Christians "like what he's doing" - he can't get reelected anymore. They're no longer useful to him.
I don't know - why don't you ask them? There have been mulittudes of articles published since the election that have cried foul. I'm sure some of those were written by some of the Democratic watchdogs you're referring to.

Are you saying that article is entirely fake?


The artilce should be more on what happened to the watchdogs and lawyers. The article is crying foul and yet not one article is asking about the people who are suppose to prevent it. I guess they have no naswer and don't have anything to back up the claim.
TK0001
QUOTE(AROCES @ Jul 19 2006, 04:27 PM) [snapback]1276207[/snapback]

The artilce should be more on what happened to the watchdogs and lawyers. The article is crying foul and yet not one article is asking about the people who are suppose to prevent it. I guess they have no naswer and don't have anything to back up the claim.


The article "should be" what exactly it's about - the Republican party fixing the election. There may be other articles about the Democratic party doing the same, but this one addresses the Republicans.

You seem to be dismissing this article for some reason, although it seems pretty legit. I checked out quite a few footnotes and they do corroborate the article. I may be wrong, but it seems you may be totally unreceptive to anything attacking the Republican party. IMO, putting blinders on can be a dangerous practice, especially when it comes to electing the leader of the free world.
Gsus Da Funk
Can someone post here something Bush said which is true?

I've heard this joke which i think is quite right:

How you can tell when politician is lying?

When his lips are moving!
Pagan_2k
Heres a good bush quote:


"Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning."
AROCES
QUOTE(Gsus Da Funk @ Jul 20 2006, 12:46 PM) [snapback]1276946[/snapback]

Can someone post here something Bush said which is true?

I've heard this joke which i think is quite right:

How you can tell when politician is lying?

When his lips are moving!


Bush said he will win the election, he did.
TK0001
QUOTE(AROCES @ Jul 21 2006, 12:57 AM) [snapback]1277889[/snapback]

Bush said he will will the election, he did.


I know that's a typo, but I think it's more accurate than that "win".

He willed his way to the presidency, with the help of thousands of Republican sponsored thugs, and through other nefarious avenues.
AROCES
QUOTE(TK0001 @ Jul 21 2006, 12:40 PM) [snapback]1278138[/snapback]

I know that's a typo, but I think it's more accurate than that "win".

He willed his way to the presidency, with the help of thousands of Republican sponsored thugs, and through other nefarious avenues.


YUP, he has the will to win! And he won.
Thugs? Nefarious avenues? Now that is just plain bitterness. 2008 is coming, make your case and I suggest make SURE AGAIN just like the last election that you won't get cheated.
TK0001
QUOTE(AROCES @ Jul 21 2006, 11:49 AM) [snapback]1278368[/snapback]

YUP, he has the will to win! And he won.
Thugs? Nefarious avenues? Now that is just plain bitterness. 2008 is coming, make your case and I suggest make SURE AGAIN just like the last election that you won't get cheated.


I'll do that.

Meanwhile, continue to bury your head in the sand.
AROCES
QUOTE(TK0001 @ Jul 21 2006, 04:14 PM) [snapback]1278395[/snapback]

I'll do that.

Meanwhile, continue to bury your head in the sand.


You the one who got cheated on? So, who's head has been buried in the sand?
markbg
the abomination of desolation was set up, and the antichrist has nothing to do with this, nor 666 as this was a minor event already gone.
el midgetron
I dunno about Bush being the antichrist. I don't think he is quite that smart but I am assuming the antichrist would be a fairly intelligent person.

I think what people fail to realize is that the antichrist isnt going show up saying "hail satan". He is going to be someone who is loved and trusted (at least at first) by the people.

Moon Monkey
G = 3 (gimel)
e = 5 (heh)
o = 70 (ayin)
r = 200 (resh)
g = 3 (gimel)
e = 5 (heh)
B = 2 (beth)
u = 70 (ayin)
s = 300 (shin)
h = 8 (cheth)
total = 666 (Antichrist)

I am not sure exactly what you have written but it isn't George Bush more like GUH-HEH-OR-GUH-HEH B-UH-SH-CHUH. We certainly dont need the cheth after the shin or the heh's and I think there should be some yods in there somewhere as well and maybe replace the ayin with a vav ( why do we do George Bush with vowels and Nero without?, convenience? )

I would like to see the details of the claimed royal lineage back to Philip of Macedonia without any "leaps of faith", I have heard Icke mention this but never seen the hard facts that back it up. We can follow Price William back to Alfred the Great so any info after (before) that would be interesting to see.
snappydragon
QUOTE(el midgetron @ Apr 17 2007, 12:47 AM) [snapback]1632796[/snapback]
I dunno about Bush being the antichrist. I don't think he is quite that smart but I am assuming the antichrist would be a fairly intelligent person.

I think what people fail to realize is that the antichrist isnt going show up saying "hail satan". He is going to be someone who is loved and trusted (at least at first) by the people.

you are right, he will apear as an angel of light. There will be many who claim also to be Jesus. If some one says he is jesus and touches the groundby the way, you can be sure he is not Jesus. Just a side note. There is a man currently with a large church following who's members are tattooing 666 on their bodies wh is claiming to be Jesus. Others call him the antichrist. But neither is right. The antichrist is supposedly not so much an individual as a certian high position in a certian church who has it's followers worshipping other than God, who is not following the commandments in full, and who claims authority over God in the church. That is one view. But then again, this isn't truly about the antichrist but about George Bush and whether or not he stold the presidency, ect. Yes when the antichrist apears in power many will gladly follow him, not aware of what he truly is, he will apear to be good for the nation and all people. He will, or his followers will push for a new religion, a world religion, where all people must follow the same church. That's some other views. There you go, something to think about. Personally I wish that we would get out of Iraq, as I am tired of our men dying over there, that is my thing against Bush. Uh, i beleive I am on the west side of the mitten. rofl.gif
K-D
BUSH IS THE ANTICHRIST!!....*runs about in an unordinary mannor* we must not let this man be the president!.....oh.......crap happy.gif devil.gif
jaylemurph
*blinks

Ah yes. Religion. Always a help to modern society. Who needs a government that explicitly shuns god's influence?

I'm all for assuming the Aeneid is a literally true, holy text and we should build up a society led by the next person we can find named Aeneas.

--Jaylemurph
Keyon
This George Bush is the antichrist is crap. I mean total crap frist off the guy is going to be intelligent. Far as I can see GB isn't that intelligent.

I'll tell you like this we won't ever know who is why you ask? Because it's going to be someone you'll never suspect what so ever. For all we know someone on this site could be it. Also the day we see him is also going to be unexpected.
johnbee
QUOTE(CongressmanReality @ Jul 16 2006, 06:12 PM) [snapback]1272174[/snapback]
G = 3 (gimel)
e = 5 (heh)
o = 70 (ayin)
r = 200 (resh)
g = 3 (gimel)
e = 5 (heh)
B = 2 (beth)
u = 70 (ayin)
s = 300 (shin)
h = 8 (cheth)
total = 666 (Antichrist)
The Bush/Nero Connection

Who is the Real Anti-Christ? Over the last 2,000 years many have claimed to know. All of them have seemingly been wrong. So what makes me any different? The plain facts, and an historical perspective..

The term "antichrist' was first used in the most recent books of the Bible, ( 1 John 2:18) " many antichrists have made their appearance." Most Biblical scholars believe that St. John was referring to members of a Gnostic Christian cult. For the early church, all those actively working against the spirit of Christ were considered antichrists, whether or not they called themselves Christians. As St. Augustine would later put it: “There you have the Antichrist – everyone who denies Christ by his works.”

At the same time, the early church believed that there would be one individual, a single man whose evil deeds would far exceed all the others; and that this individual would make his appearance just before the second coming of Jesus. Jesus called him ( Mark 13:14) "the abomination of desolation" Paul referred to him as the ( 2 thess 2:3) "man of sin" and "son of perdition". John in his letter and in his Revelation to the church called him "the beast" or "antichrist."

Most scholars believe that the antichrist in the book of Revelation was Nero, emperor of Rome from 54 - 68 AD. Nero was the first emperor who persecuted the church with a vengeance, blaming Christians for the burning of Rome, and torturing them to death in the Forum. Both St. Paul and St. Peter were executed by Nero. After Nero was forced to commit suicide, it was widely believed that Nero was still alive in Parthia (the middle east), hiding out (much like Elvis), and that he would soon return to reclaim his throne. As late as the fifth century AD, Lactantius (240-320 A.D.), Jerome (340-420 A.D.) and St. Augustine (354-430 A.D.) all still assumed that the Antichrist would turn out to be a kind of resuscitated Nero.

Were they wrong? Certainly Nero the man never returned from the dead, and the church eventually looked elsewhere for the antichrist - but that doesn't invalidate the prophecy. Nero has indeed returned, but not as Nero the Roman emperor, he's returned in spirit as George W Bush, the 43rd (P)resident of the United States.. Nero was only a foreshadowing of the last antichrist. This final and most powerful antichrist in history is prepared to finish the evil campaign that first began with Nero almost 2,000 years ago.

Most Biblical historians, including Barclay, believed that 666 was in reference to Emperor Nero. The Hebrew transliteration (without vowels) of Nero's Latin name, Caesar Nero, (QWSR NRWN) adds up to 666 using the Hebrew alphabet above. But St. John gave us this number (666) rather than his name (Nero) so that we could identify him today. Because as I have already demonstrated conclusively in exhibit #1, George Bush has the mark of the beast like no other man in human history.

The Beast and His Brain: One of the mysteries of Revelation has been the identity and connection of a second beast who rescues the antichrist and serves as his prophet. Rev 13:12 "He exercised all the authority of the first beast on his behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast." Carl Rove rescued bush from political death after his defeat in a Congressional race, and since 1993 he has served as the brains and the cleverness of the antichrist. There is even a new best-selling book by that title "Bush's Brain". No mere presidential advisor has ever held so much power. He is often referred to as 'President Rove', and even other people within the bush regime worry about his growing influence and power. Every decision bush makes is calculated and spun by Rove for political effect, with absolutely no regard for the truth. A true prophet divines the will of God in order to help lead a nation in the path of truth and righteousness. But a false prophet like Rove can predict the moods and weaknesses of the people in order to manipulate public opinion and start wars under false pretenses in order to advance his evil agenda.
the Bush/Herod Connection

George W. Bush is very closely related to the House of Windsor and the British Royal Family, and he is also related to just about every other Royal family in Europe. In fact, George Jr. is more closely related to British royalty by blood than his own father is. Why? Because of the blue-blood of the Pierce family running through his mother's veins. Bush is not only the wealthiest president we've ever had, he's also the purest aristocrat ever to sit in the White House. Why is this so important to our discussion? Because in his recent book, The Antichrist and a Cup of Tea, author Tim Cohen has meticulously documented why he believes the Antichrist must be someone who, like Bush, is closely related to the British Royal family. Though Cohen's prime suspect seems to be Prince Charles, clearly George Bush is a much better candidate for the role.


Bush's bloodline is also tied into the 13th bloodline of the Illuminati. According to some, the Illuminati are a group of rich, powerful, satanically inspired families who have conspired throughout history to rule the earth, even to the present day. This thirteenth or 'royal' illuminati bloodline is the one that is widely believed to lead directly to the final Antichrist.

Noted British author David Icke has traced the Bush bloodline as far back as Phillip of Macedonia, the father of Alexander the Great, who established the Greek World Empire. From that point, the Bush bloodline passes through the principal ruling families of the Roman Empire and eventually through European royalty as well. He is also descended from Queen Cleopatra, royal consort to Julius Caesar. Icke comments that "She also bore twins with Mark Anthony, who has his own connections to this line and its many offshoots" Marc Anthony happens to be the great-Grandfather of Emperor Nero. So now there is also a definite blood connection between Emperor Nero, the original Biblical prototype for the Antichrist, and George W Bush. The Bush bloodline also passes directly through Herod the Great, the Judean King who originally tried to murder Jesus as a child, and he is related to Herod Antipas, who murdered John the Baptist and turned Jesus over to Pilate to be crucified.

the Bush/Judas Connection
Understanding the psychology of Judas Iscariot is a good way of understanding the Antichrist. Judas was a model or template for the way in which the Antichrist would betray Christ, even while pretending to be a disciple and follower of Christ. You could say that George Bush is a reincarnation of Judas Iscariot, because he thinks and acts and is motivated in precisely the same way.

Remember that Judas is the disciple who betrayed Jesus for money. For thirty pieces of silver to be exact. The Bible is very clear that this is what he did, and that is what actually happened. But what it doesn’t tell us is how he rationalized this betrayal in his own mind. It doesn’t tell us because it was basically a lie and rationalization, and so it really didn’t matter. But it is clear that Judas did not see himself a greedy man who sold out Jesus for money, even though that’s what he was and that’s exactly what he did. The same is very true with Bush – and with most fundamentalist Christians today.

We know that Judas was a greedy man because the Bible tells us he kept the money for the group, and it also says that he was a thief, so he must have been stealing all along. At one point Judas objects that Jesus is being anointed with costly ointment, because he rationalizes that it could have been sold and used to help the poor. But he really didn’t want to help the poor – he only wanted more money to steal for himself. In the same way Bush rationalizes that all his tax cuts for the rich were really to stimulate the economy, and provide jobs and prosperity for the poor. But in truth he cares nothing about the poor, and in fact the poor are poorer and much more numerous since he came to power. Like Judas, Bush has been put in charge of the US treasury, and his real goal is to raid it on behalf of himself and all his rich pals. He is a thief. But exactly like Judas, he uses a pretended concern for the poor as a pretext and cover for his theft from the government purse.

Eventually Judas sells Jesus out for money, but it is obvious that he didn’t understand the real extent of his betrayal, anymore than Bush does today. Only at the very end, when he finally saw himself for what he really was, and understood what he had done, did he throw away the money and go hang himself. He hung himself because he could not live with the truth of what he was.

The truth is that he had deceived himself as much as he had deceived everyone around him. Jesus had constantly warned about the deceitfulness of riches, but it’s not the sort of warning Judas ever took very seriously. Nor has Bush. So what kind of rationalization did Judas give himself for betraying Christ? Did he tell himself it was only to force Jesus to take a more aggressive stand against Roman occupation? Did he convince himself that he could help hurry along the coming of the Kingdom of God? In spite of all the evidence to the contrary, had he convinced himself of what a lot of other people already believed – that Jesus was crazy, or a charlatan, and that finally he needed to be stopped for his own good? Whatever the reason he gave himself, it was not the real reason. The real reason is greed.

In the same manner Bush has betrayed and lied to his own countrymen, and got us involved in a bloody war in Iraq. He told us it was over weapons of mass destruction, but that was a lie. He still tells himself it is to establish freedom and democracy in the Middle East, but that is a lie and a rationalization as well. The real reason is greed for oil.

Why did Judas betray Jesus with a kiss? Isn’t it because he didn’t yet understand the true depth of his own betrayal? So why should we expect Bush to understand? The fact that Judas didn’t understand until the very end, the sort of evil person he really was, did not make him or his betrayal any less evil. It is our actions that count, not how good we are at rationalizing our most evil actions. The latter is something that the most evil people are always good at doing. Including Bush.




No, no. You got it all so wrong: http://www.bebaptized.org/antichrist.htm
johnbee
Try this instead: http://www.bebaptized.org/antichrist.htm
itsnotoutthere
Hey, i think you could be on to something.....hmmm
Unlimited
QUOTE(agent ex @ Apr 19 2007, 08:37 PM) [snapback]1637354[/snapback]
BUSH IS THE ANTICHRIST!!....*runs about in an unordinary mannor* we must not let this man be the president!.....oh.......crap happy.gif devil.gif


If the rumors are true ?..and Christ is back....I'd say that would make bush the anti-christ....especially when you investigate his time in the tombs under yale...usually when you wear a black cloak while slashing doves... your probably involved with something nefarious....
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