This is fascinating, I have never heard the terms Nephillim or Annunaki before...

Sorry, this is a pretty pointless thread, I just wanted to say thanks!

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ahhh..well there aint any female angels because..the Annunaki were the angels the bible talked about and only the men annunaki came to earth for a long time..then enki and enlils sister came down to help with the genetic engineering daa daaaaaa...(ok that left me open for a right booting didnt it)

LOL, facinating and pointless..... lol...

er....the real world, plleeeeas

When will that man ever stop writing trash?.......

Just after people stop /buying/ it...

--Jaylemurph

To be very honest with you .... I have pondered the very same thing ....
But I choose not to talk to much of this specific topic ....
History can be nasty!
~*~

This is my first exposure to the Annunaki tradition. I googled it and got thousands of hits.

If Nibiru, or Planet X, were going to approach our solar system in 2012, wouldn't we be able to see it by now?

You'd think, wouldn't you?

--Jaylemurph

A friend and I have been discussing and studying into this very subject for years. Our own understanding and conclusion (though definitely open to further information) is that Jehovah was an incarnation of Enlil. When Jesus stepped into his ministry, it was to warn the Israelites that the God they were serving was really the devil they were to fear. For this he was called a blasphemer and was crucified. Jesus therefore was not Enlil's son. The God of the OT and the God of the NT are very clearly different; otherwise, that "One God" is very schizophrenic.

It was pointed out to us by another person about 6 years ago that in John 8, it tells that the Pharisees were again arguing with and confronting Jesus that the God of Abraham was their father. He did not argue with them on that, but said "You are of your father the devil, and his lusts do you do".

Then he said his own father was in "Heaven". Whatever and wherever that is, I believe it is beyond the material and incarnate or manifest realms. The point for me is that they condemned him for calling their God "Satan". Today's Pharisees in all monotheistic religions are making the same mistake.

It was very "gnostic" of him to point out "Have I not said, ye are all gods?".

As for Zecharia Sitchin, he did seem to begin by endeavoring to tell us the truth about it all. Then, on another group where I chatted about this a few years ago, it was determined that the Vatican must have gotten to him and threatened him if he didn't recant, so his stories began to change.

Joust tui Hu'ah suimah loeght uiy' ohl uif Li'oes Kuiy'fousoeuiy', NASA ohy'd uiLi'ahr den uirgohy'oesohtoeuiy' hohvah ohl trohkahd Nibiru tui bah oht Li'ah lahngLi' uif den hoet uirboet, ruioughly 1800 den yahohr ohVohy, sui Juiy'oe dui y'uit ahxpahkt hoet fuir ien Vhoelah.

Li'ahy hovah y'uit fuiouy'd den hoet ohxohkt luikohtoeuiy' (tui yuidoe'y ky'uiVlahdgah) , bout Li'oht oes Li'ah ohrahoh oey' den hoet uirboet Li'oht Li'ahy hovah y'ohruiVahd hoet duiVy' tui.

Entroegahr

After reading some of Sitchens work and also seeing a similar connection between Abraham and the prophet Muhammed sorry for spelling typing from memory. Abraham was called by out by a single god among a culture of many gods. Muhammed was also called out by a single god Allah out of a culture of many gods. I'm maybe a Christian but to me theres a seems to be a connection. This is a subject that most so called fundamentalist christians don't want to touch or are afraid of their faith being shakin. Whether Jesus has a connection with the Annunaki I've started wondering myself after reading Sitchens work. Also consider this the scripture also states that the Apostle Paul went by himself into Arabia for a period of time. I've also been wondering if he might have encountered Sumerian writings during that time. Who knows what the truth really is. It's something that the mainstream christian church doesn't want to touch. And I don't think that's its some grand conspiracy to conceal the truth because of writings such as the Nag Hammadhi books and gnosticism being rediscovered is just I think that christians are afraid of their faith being shaken. To me if the Annunaki if Sitchins work is to be belived created us well then somehow they must have evolved elsewhere. It still doesn't shake my faith in Intelligent design. I don't exactly agree with pure creationism or pure evolutionism. And if you ever read Genesis it only talks about the creation of earth and life on it. It doesn't exactly get into detail anywhere else. But then you can get into this big argument theologically if there's life elsewhere then Jesus would have also been crucified for other lifeforms and go in circles and circles till your head explodes. But I think that it boils down to the fact that most christians are afraid of the real truth and having their faith being shaken.

Interesting ideas. But if you are going to accept the existence of the Sumerian Gods, then you shouldn't just pick and choose those parts that fit your theory. I agree that Yahweh seems to be Enlil, and Satan seems to be Enki. Many authorities state this. But these myths state they are brothers and in their "Godly" forms are known as Umshagals - great dragons! And these dragons were subservient to a greater, non-dragon God called Anu. Enlil raped his dragoness sister and was exiled by Anu. And it was Enki-Satan who actually saved "Noah" , for Enlil was intent on wiping out the entire human race. So is Jesus the Son of a Sumerian rapist, draco-form wind God? And this God was not the creator of mankind, Enki-Satan was. And the creator of both the universe as well as his dragon servants enlil, enki and the annuaki was Anu the high God over them all. But I suppose Enlil-Yahweh does seem like a dragon at times, ordering the slaughter of his own worshippers, consuming his own priest, and described with fiery breath and smoking nostrils in the Old Testament. In fact, the Zoroastrian Persians did state that the God of the Jews was an enormous and wicked dragon, and brother of the dragon Ahriman, said to be the same creature as Satan. So here we see the same confirmation of Enki-satan and Enlil-Yahweh as both brother and dragons over a 1000 years after the Sumerian religion was all but forgotten. This is all discussed in detail in my upcoming book. But no ancient astronauts, or atomic "pyramid wars". If this were true we would have found some extraterrestrial evidence by now. But virtually every human culture does acknowledge huge, intelligent dragons, and both Christians and Jews have apparently made one of them their God, only are too ignorant of their own theology to realize this.

okay...more of Stichin's made-up fantasy nonsense. His theory of ping-pong planets is simply ridiculous and absurd. Don't be so gullible and believe everything you read.....unless of course I decide to write a book exposing a new ridiculous theory then by all means buy several copies of my book and give them to your friends (hmmm....how about if a race if superaliens known to ancient Minoans decided to split Jupiter so it wouldn't become a binary star and that is why we have Saturn (leaving massive rings for some reason I have yet to determine) and Uranus which is on its side and rotates in a different direction from other planets)

As someone posted earlier, there are linkages between ancient Sumarian mythology and Jewish mythology which has come down to Christianity through the bible. This does not mean that you need to take these Sumarian legends as historical events....just as you cannot take the Bible stories as historical events.

If you are referring to me, I do not believe I stated that I took ANY of Stichin's nonsense seriously. I am merely suggesting one can take the Sumerian myths at face value, the same way people take the Bible at face value, since these stories are the origin of the Bible. But as to the Sumerian inspired stories of Genesis, logic would give more credence to the Sumerian versions than the Hebrew, becasue we have over 3500 year old preserved copies of these on cunieform tablets, whereas the illiterate Hebrew Shepherds forgot and changed many elements of the same stories when they repeated these stories as an oral tradition around their campfires. The original stories make Satan both the creator of man, and savior of Noah, not Yahweh, although if Christians actually read the Bible, they would see that just as in the Sumerian stories, the Biblical Satan, like the Sumerian one, serve their brother Enlil-Yahweh, though being slightly diobedient at times to do little things like saving the human race. The Biblical Yahweh then, is neither Enki or Enlil. The poor illiterate Hebrew Shepherds seem to have mixed the stories up and their God is both Enki and Enlil, simply retaining in their memories the "good" things about both Gods, and combining them to make one God, blisfully ignorant that half of their God is in fact, Enki the wise, Serpent dragon of Eden, or the other half is Enlil, the sister-raping, flood bringing, dragon god of wind and storms. But this is not to say Jesus is fake, but even he apparently did not realize that the creator of mankind, savior of Noah, etc. was Enki-Satan, the much maligned brother of the God Jesus believed was his father.

I hear a lot of talk regarding mythology, but where are the facts?

Acutually I was not referring to you specifically, just the general tone of the thread which was presuming that the Sumerian gods were real.

Incidently, I agree with everything you said above, with the proviso that it is all mythological history. And I would also say that Jesus wasn't intentionally "faked".....his story was a meant as a learning myth by the writers, it just got mistakenly believed as historical fact later on.

Your thought is provocative. But, really I consider that all of these Marduks and Enkis and Eas planets. This is from wiki:

According to later Babylonian myth, the Anunnaki were the children of Anu and Ki, brother and sister gods, themselves the children of Anshar and Kishar (Skypivot and Earthpivot, the Celestial poles). Anshar and Kishar were the children of Lahm and Lahmu ("the muddy ones"), names given to the gatekeepers of the Abzu temple at Eridu, the site at which the Creation was thought to have occurred. The head of the Anunnaki council was the Great Anu, (rather than being just a sky god, Anu in Sumerian actually means "sky"), of Uruk and the other members were his offspring. His place was taken by Enlil, (En=lord, lil=wind,air), who at some time was thought to have separated heaven and earth. This resulted in an ongoing dispute between Enlil of Nippur and his half brother Enki of Eridu regarding the legitimacy of Enlil's assumption of leadership. Enki, (En=lord, Ki=Earth), in addition to being the God of fresh water, was also God of wisdom and magic, regarded by some as an alchemist. When the Igigi went on strike and refused to continue to work maintaining the universe, on the Shappatu (Hebrew. shabbat, Eng. sabbath) Enki created humankind to assume responsibility for the tasks the Gods no longer performed. *****

This is from me:

If you really think about it, Enki is 'lord Earth.' This earth is said to be alive and have a spirit named Gaia, from Celtic lore. Sorry if I repeat some of your studies, but there is some differences in the meanings in certain areas. It is very hard to bring these together. The first thing to bring out is something about Jesus Christ. A very interesting thing. Thomas, also named Didymus, was the twin of Jesus. Thomas means twin and Didymus means double or twin. In Hebrew, Thomas means duplicate. After Jesus was resurrected, he appeared to some of the disciples at Lake Tiberius, Thomas was among them. They did not recognize him. Mary thought he was the gardner at the tomb. Jesus appeared to many people after his resurrection in a different form. That is shapeshifting and that is a Celtic belief. I am bringing out that in the Celtic belief Anu is the great mother ancestor of the Danaan gods.

In Celtic legends, there is a riocht or coimimeadh, this is a little off subject, but I'll try to tie it in. These words mean 'co-walker,' exterior hidden-soul, or double. It appears as a sign of death or great danger.

About the Anunnaki: http://www.metahistory.org/ReptilianAgenda.php

However, there is a world of difference in the way the story is treated in two sources. The Sumerian cuneiform record tells the intervention scenario as if it were (pre)historical fact, a set of events that really happened. In the NHC (Nag Hammadi Codex), the story of the Annunaki (there called Archons) is presented in the cosmological perspective of the Sophia Mythos, the Fallen Goddess scenario, and then it is analyzed, deconstructed. In other words, the Gnostics had a view of the cosmic origins of the Annunaki, and they also took a critical approach to intervention. They deconstructed the Sumerian narrative. The cuneiform record is just a story, without critical commentary. The description of the "alien interbreeding program" occurs in several places in the NHC, but the Gnostic materials tell us that the attempt failed:

The Archons came to Adam. When they saw Eve talking to him they said to each other, ‘What sort of creature is this luminous woman?’ … Now come, let us lay hold of her and cast our seed into her, that she may become soiled and unable to access her inner light. Then those who she bears will be under our charge… But Eve, being a free power, laughed at their decision. She put mist in their eyes [and escaped them].”
The Origin of the World, NHC II, 5, 116.10ff

This is one of several riveting passages in the NHC that show Eve, the primal woman, outwitting the Archons. The Mystery teaching presents a mythological event, and comments on the outcome of that event. In the Gnostic view, the Archon/Annunaki do attempt to interbreed with humanity, but fail. Other texts describe how Eve leaves her “phantom image” which the Archons defile, but they are unable to actually access her body, i.e., human genetic structure.

From me:

If you call Jehovah/Yahweh Enlil from the Anunnaki, Elijah from the bible is the God of Jehovah (El Jah) and that would point to Jehovah being Anunnaki and Elijah being Enlil.

This stuff is so deep.

Zecharia Sitchin is basing his beliefs on Planet X or whatever on a 'twin star' to our sun, which is not out of the question. In other words, it could be.

It's deep something, alright.

--Jaylemurph

Yeah, I have to scrub my boots to get that stuff off!

No need for it. The Jewish beliefs were based on Babylonian beliefs (from when the Jews were captives in Babylonia), which were based on Akkadian beliefs, which were in turn based on Sumerian beliefs. After a thousand years of following this borrowed belief system, is it any wonder that parallels between the Sumerian and the Christian belief systems exist?


Sorry about the book, but the Sumerian religion was very certainly not forgotten at the time the Avesta was finally recorded (I assume this is what you're talking about here) in the 6th century BC. Also, as I'm sure you know, the Avesta has an extremely long oral tradition associated with it, though exactly how long is problematic, as is true with any oral tradition.

The "Sumerian religion," which was practiced in Babylonia and spun off into various forms in the conquered territories of Babylonia, had undergone some change but it was essentially the same. IOW, the names had changed, as had the language. Pretty much as would be expected for any civilization over a period of three thousand years or so.


Associating the "Archons" (a Greek word meaning the Authorities, or those in charge, from the same root as monarch) with the Annunaki is too great of a stretch to make. First of all, there is no "the Nag Hammadi Codex." The Nag Hammadi library contained 13 Codices, made up of 52 books. Just saying "the Nag Hammadi Codex" is not only useless and meaningless, it betrays an unwillingness to examine the facts of the matter on your part. For if you had, you might have noticed that your quote from "On the Origin of the World" came from a single book in one of these thirteen codices. Secondly, this word is typically translated as "the Authorities" and is generally accepted to mean the Authorities of Chaos, which existed before creation (still does, in fact). These "Authorities" were the created offspring of Yaltabaoth:

who himself started out as an aborted amalgamation of the envy and jealousy that the shadow had for the much mightier, and prettier light (from whence Pistis Sophia came, or it came from Pistis Sophia) that was spoken into existence by Pistis Sophia:


Pistis Sophia who was the original immortal:

None of which appears in the Sumerian religion. So, too much of a stretch, like I said.

All quotes are from greggk's source, except I'm actually going to provide a link:
On the Origin of the World from the Nag Hammadi Library
Feel free to poke around and see these Gnostic texts that were found at Nag Hammadi in Egypt and written several centuries after the death of Christ.


IMO, there's no parallel between a race that created humanity, and one that did not even express a desire to do so. You can cease linking the Gnostic mythology to that of the Sumerians. It simply doesn't work.


No, he bases it on cuneiform texts which he purposefully mischaracterizes when he claims to translate them. The actual fact is, he cannot translate cuneiform. Simple as that. He's never shown any ability to do so, and when asked to show such an ability, he refuses.

Harte

He left mid cycle in the 3,600 time period so he should not have been able to go to the 10th planet as their technology wasn't developed sufficiently for long range travel. Also he operated within the day/thousand year formula so has to be someone else.

All they did was modify something they found already here. There is an original creator who is often left out of these postulations and I think that must be who he references. The annanaki present as a quarrelsome interfering meddling race more like the Farengi pattern and the christ always addressed them as desendents of the serpent figure. I see nothing but trouble when these people return so my hope is in the promises of the original to do what he says. The serpent don't need mankind. They already decided to reduce us to a manageable 500,000 global population and it is said there will be no flesh left alive except by original intervention. That has been promised so I wait patiently.

Are these Annunaki the same folk as the Chitauli that are common throughout Sub-Saharan African Legend?

Hope this threads not dead...I only discovered it today! Very interesting...Makes me feel better I'm not the only nutter out there interested in this sort of stuff

Don't worry, you're not alone. Every couple of weeks another Annunaki thread pops up around here!

Harte

Would this be the language of the Ohrgend?

And since there doesn't seem to be an Ohrgend option in Babelfish, could you maybe translate it into English so we can all understand it as well?

I have been searching for an answer to the identity of Jesus. I've been trying to kick the religion out of the Bible and have a look at what it actually records. Seems to be quite different from what the religious people make it say. Well that's just my idea anyway!

From what I see, there seems to be two main players. Jesus identifies a group of humans with him as brethren of his own bloodline but another set of humans as "serpent" derived from an opposing bloodline. John the baptist similarly seemed to be able to tell them apart. When some of those who had assumed positions of power in the community came to see him at the Joshua Stones he got into an argument where he said that God would reconstitute the people represented by those Stones before he would let those who disputed with him, have any part in his plans. Later Jesus told his people that he spoke in parables while these others were around incase these others realised what he really meant and were able to use the information to get in on the act. There seems to have been a war going on even back then.

I've been checking out the theories of those who teach about the "black nobility", and the "royal bloodlines" etc. I mean Michael Tsarion, Russell Pine (I forget his other Internet identity for now), and David Icke in particular. It seems to me there is a major flaw in their argument which they all seem to avoid dealing with. More like a gaping hole in their logic really. Essentially they have to try to sustain their bloodline theology by believing that the God of the Bible is the Serpent disguising himself as the good guy, and that the identity described in the Bible as the "Serpent" is actually the real good guy. That is basic Freemasonic and christian cult conviction which upholds the ancient mystery tradition, but these guys spend all their time teaching that the freemasons and their beliefs are the true serpents. So really they are that house divided against itself.

But I have seen in the midst of the confusion that there has been an effective bloodless takeover coup in the western nations and strange laws alien to our culture and which would have horrified our forefathers are being passed without reference to the democratic process and then enforced with violence and cruelty. Bob Peel started the "police" to keep the Queens Peace but today they have become a violent paramilitary force enforcing new government law (the "rule of law") even on non-violent law-abiding citizens exercising their lawful rights in every way. Strangely, there was enormous public debate and concern that the new "peelers" might become exactly what they have become, at the time they were founded and long before they were ever federalised. The "Queens Peace" represented Anglo Saxon Common Law which was reinstituted in 1641 when Roman Civil Law previously enforced under the Normans was demoted. Over one third of the world runs on variants of this "Common Law", particularly the basics of the pre Bill of Rights Constitution freedom in the USA, and it is this Law of the Right of the common man to challenge those in power over him which is being subjugated as the tide turns back in favor of the mercantile Roman Law which places final power in the hands of the ruler and takes away the rights of the free man.

The New World Order and its Rule of Law, is already here. its our vision that has been blinded.

Part of the reason for my interest in this Jesus, is that he seems to have foreseen all of this and sees well beyond it to the eventual final destruction of the architects of the NWO and their lackies at the hands of the God whose creation they dared to interfere with and who they have left out of their calculations to seize his vineyard. It would seem that once the NWO people have consolidated their arrogance and begun the slaughter of humanity, that there is a Right Royal Rumble then to follow between the father of Adam and the father of Cain.

Hey... I am still working on it!
(i don't give up my day job?)

According to my research on this very subject, Ninurta (later called Ningursu) was not Jesus. Even though he was ascribed with many of the same supernatural abilities that Jesus had, he was a farmer not a carpenter, and "Lord of the plough". Furthermore, he had two different consorts, and even a daughter (Innanu) who had an affair with her great grandfather (his grandfather) Emperor Anu. What's more, Jesus was against the serpent races, as was indicated by his statement "Behold I give you power to tread on serpents and scorpions and all the power of the enemy" - Luke 10:19, and showed his opposition to this line in his rebukes of the so-called Pharisess: "Serpents, offspring of vipers, how should ye escape the judgment of hell? - Mathew 23:33.

So a First Century Jewish carpenter who may not even have existed isn't a fictional 3rd Millenium BCE Sumerian god?

Heavens, I'm glad *that* was cleared up. Can't tell you how many times I made that mistake: I'd stub my toe and shout "Ninurta, son of Ninhursag" or go to the local ziggurat to sleep with a temple prostitute to honor Jesus of Nazareth and get the crops to grow.

--Jaylemurph

i thought the Annunaki where fictional?

wow there you go. a cheaply made web site says it all lies! it must be true. wow!

OH MY GOSH!!
I ACTUALLY LAUGHED OUTLOUD WHILE READING THIS TITLE

You are in possession of a keen mind.

Or, at least, a mind anyway!

Harte

An interesting topic. First I would say that Jesus never called God Jehovah or Yahweh (to the best of my knowledge). So that would disconnect the chord between Jesus and the waning Annunaki in my opinion. I think Jesus' message when he said that if you have seen me, you have seen God~ was simply, "Me, you, we are all God(s)/Godlike." Like when he said something to the like of, "You can do what I can do and more" etc.. I don't believe he was trying to say he was part Annunaki, but that his message was "we are all divine."

His origins, in my mind, are probably pan-dimensional. Maybe a hybrid of those behind the veil with a human. Maybe the Bible's new test and other books are astrological like some have propossed. I appreciate the knowledge being passed in this topic.

This is good research. My question is how do we get to exercise this power? For example the "vipers" may be locked up in chains against a future judgement but the "sons of vipers" are very active at this time in history. This present monetary crisis has all the hallmarks of their handiwork as they use this created situation through financial manipulation to consolidate their power base. Americans tend to focus internally but this is a global issue where every country under the control of a reserve bank which they control is facing the same situation where that reserve bank is moving to take control of the nations private mortgages. They plan to turn free humans into tenant-slaves on their own land. I see this is their big move to own the planet and this financial 9/11 and the big collapse to follow is their way to achieve this. Then they plan to tag us like cattle and reduce "stock" numbers to sustainable levels of the best breeding stock based on their requirements. The original pre-deluvian vipers farmed humans for food and slave labor. Today, their progeny believe that a human world population of 500m will be adequate to service their needs for the future. It's not hard to see that they are conditioned to repeat "the lusts of their fathers" as the anti-Annunaki once said. Or as he also said, in these last days they are in the process of restoring their original empire (as it was in the days of Noah etc).

My question is, how do we access that stated power which apparently can defeat their plans to farm us and make slaves of us? Or is it too late already? What does it mean to enter into our bedchambers until the indignation be overpast? Are we to be passive until the wicked are finally removed by extra-terrestrial intervention? Too many questions I guess.

Holy crap, jaylemurph! If I were a fundamentalist I'd be warning you about bolts of lighting coming down, but I am not. But, Ninhursag-dammit, now I can't stop laughing.

I shall go to the local ziggurat and light some incense for your well being. Do you prefer Egyptian-musk or sandalwood?

There are many scriptures in the New Testament where Jesus clearly identifies with the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. In fact, if you look at even the "ye are gods" sentence in entirety, it actually goes: "Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law that I SAID Ye are gods?" He is quoting Psalms 82:6 from the Old Testament. Jesus is claiming to be the author of that statement - a statement that was written before He was even born. He is saying that HE is the one who originally said this in the OLD TESTAMENT.

Based on writings from a variety of different sources, I believe that what Jesus meant when He said "ye are gods" is that our spirits are immortal. There was a time (before the Garden of Eden incident) when we were merely animals (Neanderthal man) and did not possess an immortal spirit. However, since the angels procreated with them to produce homo-sapiens, our spirits are eternal like theirs is.

Also, upon closer examination, Jesus is at times even harsher than the God of the O.T., as He said (and I'm paraphrasing here) such things as if you even look upon a married person with desire, you commit adultery, and if your hand makes you sin, cut it off, if your eye makes you sin, pluck it out. Then he says that if you so much as angrily call your brother a fool you are in danger of hellfire. Then He turns around and angrily calls the Pharisees "vipers", but not because they were children of the O.T. God, but because they were "wolves in sheeps clothing"; they were purporting to be children of the O.T. God, but were in fact imposters. They were reptilians (if you will) posing as representatives of Light - same as today.

HOLY ****, this is hilarious, people are calling Stichen's work "fantasy" and the bible "real facts",
I'M BUSTING A GUT HERE, LO****ingL, who's really living in a fantasy land?

the Pharisees were threatened by Jesus because they knew he was the son of God, and that his mission had something to do with taking away their power. Remember, they were reptilian "vipers" as Jesus called them...probably walk-ins.

Yes Noah was a product of inbreeding between angels and man, and the reason why the angels who did that were cursed by God was because:

We were merely Neanderthals back when this happened. We were ANIMALS. As such we did not have immortal spirits (we were not "gods" as Jesus put it). Thus, the angels were committing acts of bestiality upon us. We being animals, could not resist them. It was essentially rape. But the implications were enormous.

First, our spirits became immortal after that. This created a situation that as 3D beings we cannot begin to understand until we pass on to the other side, but I assure you it ain't pretty.

Second, our DNA was all messed up. God created us perfect, but since that happened we now have all manner of disease, birth defects, and infertility.

Third, it created monsters and giants on the Earth who basically took over and enslaved the little guys. They consumed all of our resources and when they were all used up, guess what? They began to consume US. And as you accurately pointed out, their disembodied spirits haunt us today as poltergeists & demons.

Fourth, the angels shared forbidden technology with us. This technology has included such horrors as the atom bomb, genetic manipulation and occult mind control practices.

If that's not enough, they think that because they produced offspring with us, that they are our Gods. It's like someone trying to sue you for custody of a child that was produced from their raping you. While they do have some rights because of this intrusion, they do not own us, as they would like to think.

The angels have digressed horrifically since their fall. I don't know if it's because they joined forces with satans or if they are in fact the satans - it's hard to tell sometimes. But they have made treaties with the U.S. to give us technology in exchange for abduction of animals and humans, whom they have done unspeakable things to them down in the lower depths of the DUMBs.

Before you discard this as false, do your research. The truth of all of this is coming out now.

Why do you believe its just a myth? Does it really seem more plausible to you that a intelligent human beings would go through the trouble of writing mere fiction on clay tablets which were then fired and hidden away for future generations- as opposed to doing all that in order to have a historical record?

Hmmm...Oh I get it. Men weren't as smart back then as we are today. Right.

Well, at least the Bible contains the occasional actual fact.

Superb reply kmt can't stop laughing at that one.
But don't worry to much about jay's wellbeing, as what he is going to be doing to honor Jesus of Nazareth sounds like good fun. lol

Dan Dare

That's not what he tells me!

For some reason when I was reading jaylemurph's response, images of my ultra-conservative Roman Catholic upbringing flashed into my head. I no longer practice the religion and my mom has made peace with that (or so she says), but had I made a crack like jaylemurph's when I was a kid, I think my mom would've smacked me upside the head with the family Bible and ordered an exorcism.

The exorcism I could've dealt with, but not the assault with the family Bible. That thing is huge!

You are asking the right questions, your eyes have obviously been opened and you are coming to the correct conclusions. I'm not so certain that the Annunaki Watchers are "chained" in the literal sense tho. I believe they are merely quarantined to live underground...where they are actually flourishing and continue to "farm" humans. There is evidence of this coming out now. It is astonishingly wicked what our government has gotten involved in.

To answer your question about how to secure the "stated power", when you are baptised in the Holy Spirit (different from baptism in water) you get this power. In order to recieve the Holy Spirit, you must first "receive" Jesus. Read Rom. 10:9,10 for how to do that. Some Christians believe that you get baptized in the Holy Spirit as soon as you receive Jesus. Others believe that you have to ask for it in faith, and you know you have it when you can "speak in tongues". Scriptures on the baptism of the Holy Spirit: Mark 1:8, Acts 1:5&8, John 16:13, Luke 24:49, Acts 2:4, Acts 2:33, Joel 2:28,29, Rom 15:13, 1 Corin 12:7, 1 Corin 12:13, John 7:38, 39, John 20:22, John 14:16,17,26.

Christians believe that God is going to remove His people from the Earth before He begins to pour out his wrath on the world. There is good evidence in scripture to support this, unless of course the whole Bible was written by Satan - which I sincerely doubt.

The powers that be would have us believe that the Sumerian writings were myth, but it makes more sense that people were actually trying to record history as they knew it. Otherwise why would they bother to painstakingly write it on clay, then fire it, and then bury them in cavies for future generations? One would have to accept the notion that they were ignorant and stupid, and I don't buy that. That's because I see no evidence that man's IQ level has diminished over the years. Their knowledge level may have increased, but not their smarts. Homo-sapiens have been intelligent, rational beings from the get go.

As far as Satan creating us...NO. He merely tinkered with our DNA. We had already been created when Enki came on the scene. Enki's semen changed us up a lot, but did NOT entirely create us.

One does not need to rely on Sitchin to come to these conclusions either.

How about intellectual curiosity? That's hardly something unique to modern people. And few of these cuneiform tablets have been found in caves. One of the single-most important caches of tablets on record was excavated from the library in the palace of Ashurbanipal, in the ancient Assyrian capital of Nineveh. This was a treasure-trove of literature such as the Epic of Gilgamesh, a set of myths of which the Assyrians were particularly fond. In fact, it was Assyrian scribes who preserved much of the story as we know it.

Ashurbanipal is always a good source to cite because he was a powerful supporter of arts and literature. He ordered his envoys to collect stories and fables and all manner of writing from all over the Assyrian empire. He was clearly a very intelligent man with tremendous intellectual curiosity, so pity the fact that the Assyrian empire was shattered under his reign.

In a sense fables like the Epic of Gilgamesh were works of history--to the ancient Near Easterners, anyway. Much as Classical Greeks viewed the Iliad as a factual event and as how many fundamental Christians believe the Bible to be the literal word of God, so Ashurbanipal and his Near Eastern kin believed the epic stories of heros and deities were fact.

But I should hope we, today, know better. I really do hope that modern people do not regard the Epic of Gilgamesh or the Iliad as historical fact. If some people do, they need to turn off the SciFi Channel and pick up a book or two.

Care to explain the "hidden away for future generations" part?

Ever heard of Beowulf? Do you believe in Grendel?

Does Shiva exist and does she really have six arms?

Is every single piece of dogma in every single scripture of every single religion completely and utterly and literally true?

Of course intelligent humans write mere fiction. Ask Stephen King.

Lastly, the Sumerians never wrote a word about any group of gods labeled the "Annunaki."

Annunaki is a Babylonian term. Check a timeline sometime.


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Be prepared for his wrath, that she is a he... and, as far as the tradition go, pretty chauvinistic.