This may have been posted before, however, I did a few searches none of which produced any results so I apologize if this has already been covered.

The following are part 1 and 2 of the Disclosure Project Witness Testimony DVD (2 hour version). Don't confuse this with the Disclosure Project Press Conference! It is not the same thing.

"This 2 hour video is a distillation of over 120 hours of video interviews made by Dr Greer. Dozens of highly credible military and government witnesses discuss UFO events and projects they have worked on, with introductory and overview commentary by Dr. Greer. The video is divided into sections and is an excellent item to have and show to others, to get a full understanding of what the Project is about. It is more informative to see this video prior to seeing the May 9th Press Conference video.

Sections covered in this video are:

Secrecy Risks: what are the global risks if we do nothing
Human Witness Testimony: dozens of witness testimonies that are real and shouldn't be ignored.
Witness testimony to nuclear weapons that were sent into space and destroyed by UFOs.
Astronaut and Satellite Related Testimonials
Craft and Body Retrieval of Extraterrestrial Origin Secrecy Examined: how it works through the unacknowledged special access projects and compartmentalization. i.e. How some members of our Governments are kept in the dark.
The Secrecy behind Space Based Weapons: its lethal implications.
Threats and Ridicule: suffered by those wishing to disclose the truth.
Why the Secrecy: and why it is no longer necessary."


Part 1 of 2

Part 2 of 2

may i ask if this is the same video of the one titled ufo area 51 - the alien interview? if not..sorry for asking...because my sound goes off and on and it makes my vids not play lol...anyways...thnx for sharing the vids to us...ima watch it soon

No, it has absolutely nothing to do with the alien interview.

oh...my bad X)...but ill watch it though . sounds very interesting specially the stuff that you have bolded in ur post

THANK YOU FOR THIS! Watching this now.. EXCELLENT! (I've not seen these posted here before.. excellent find!)

BTW, Greer will be visiting Portland, Oregon sometime in August about his new book. I really hope I can attend this..

Great post.

Does anybody know where to find the Human Witness Testimony in text?

great video good post

Well there is the Disclosure Project book. Is that what you were referring to?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/096732381...6270349?ie=UTF8

This is interesting. I don't know much about this Dr. Greer, except that there were alot of, what now appears to be, ad hominem attacks on him in the past.

Yes, I know he has his support, but there was a lot of criticism one way or another against him and his witnesses.

If only one of these people are correct, that national security involves the cover-up of suspected extraterrestrial ufos, then we have been subject to denial and silence from the government.

And, according to these men, co-ersion.

yep It only takes one.

Oh...there is a book.

I understand that Greer has to maintaing the site and support himself.

But i think that this kind of info shoul be free for everyone who wants to read it.

Its just an opinnion.

Sorry for my english.

I thought spamming was a no-no.


http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/rules.php

Have a look at rule #1.

It’s only a recommendation. Meanwhile posting under two user names is against the rules

Rule 10 No multiple identities - No registering multiple usernames and engaging in 'multiple personality' activities; i.e. pretending to be several different people. Anyone caught doing this will have all related usernames disabled and their posting privileges removed.

He who lives by the rule book

Thanx ...... interesting vids indeed...

I don't mean to sound ungrateful, but my home connection wont handle this. Is there a copy in .wmv format or similar for download that anyone knows of?

Im impressed, Rapid has read the rules.

Do you have anything to say that is relevant to the topic? What is your opinion of the video?



Just click the download button on the right. It will open up 2 options, "Manually download Google Video Player" and "Manually download the video". You have to download google video player first in order to view the video and as far as I know it is free.

I'm halfway through this and all i can say is ....WOW
This is great stuff......WHERE ARE ALL THE DEBUNKERS ? .I'd like to hear what they have to say after watching all of it .
Thats a pretty impressive list of people from military and intelligence backgrounds.

If you use the search button you will see what the "debunkers" have said, time and time again everytime this is posted

You see, there is a big problem with eye-witness testimony. Belief can color a person's experience, it's almost impossible to know if what a person is saying in an indication of objective reality, or simply what they believe is objective reality. If you don't think this is a valid point, I suggest you take a look at this information about witches/witchcraft.

There was a time when people swore on the Bible in courts of law that they had seen others consorting with Satan, flying on broomsticks, casting spells etc. People were executed for being witches, and witches were seen as being a very real part of life. This is why anecdotal testimony alone will never suffice as scientific proof for the existence of alien visitors to Earth.

Whoa Lilly....That reply is totally innapropriate...have you watched the video's ????
These are not some simple minded stargazers who think they've seen something and interpreted it as Beings from outer space...
These are Brigadier Generals ,Colonels,Captains,Military Intelligence,CIA,...you name it...who have actually been involved in the operations surrounding these craft and beings...everything from observation of them to recovery of the crafts ...
If i have one criticism of this after watching it all ,it's this and you're right in this sense...anecdotal evidence with this subject has had it's day...it's time for the dog to see the hare .
I'm led to conclude that the Aliens themselves are just as guilty as the handful controlling the information on this.......The video's take the track that the aliens are not hostile and are here to help ...if thats the case stop dealing with the elite few and at least show yourselves ONCE EVEN in a recognisable verifiable manner...enough of this hazy video and photo routine......Video gets 10/10 ...i'd like to see some of the evidence these people can provide now though

Sorry Lilly that reply is totally innapropriate...did you watch the video's ?
These are not simple stargazers who think they've seen something and added legs to it.
These are all people who've actually been involved with them to some extent.
There are Captains,Colonels Brigadier Generals,Ex Cia,Intelligence and on and on....directly involved
The aliens are guilty of complicity though by not showing themselves once and for all....this would pull the rug from under the secrecy

Totally innapropriate Lilly.These are not simple minded stargazers who've added legs to a story.
These are all ex intelligence,army,airforce that have been directly involved in the cover up and are now admitting to it because they feel it's time for people to know the truth.

I cant help feeling that any alien beings are complicit with the special interests keeping this secret though...why cant they just bloody show themselves "properly" once and for all and be done with it

Totally innapropriate Lilly.These are not simple minded stargazers who've added legs to a story.
These are all ex intelligence,army,airforce that have been directly involved in the cover up and are now admitting to it because they feel it's time for people to know the truth.

I cant help feeling that any alien beings are complicit with the special interests keeping this secret though...why cant they just bloody show themselves "properly" once and for all and be done with it

Lilly...these people aren´t ignorant peasants from Salem´s town...some of them were in charge of the most advanced and powerful technology in the earth.

What that UFO/DP conference was--was about 2 hours of testimony by people largely describing the commonplace---UFO sightings.

There were also a couple folks who made outlandish claims of having seen extraterrestrial beings.

So? Maybe, maybe not.

Again, and as always, prove it and you may have something there.

The Salem witch trials were a different scenario entirely. That dealt with religious superstitions and most of the time the testimonials were the difference between life and death. The witch trials had no backing in the scientific community whatsoever and was completely based on religion superstitions and fear. The individuals coming forward regarding the UFO phenomena are not simple peasants that have little or no scientific background knowledge lying about their experiences for their own good. In fact, these former government officials have hardly anything to gain and almost everything to lose by coming forward with what they know. They are coming forward for our own good not that of their own. They are risking their names, their own safety and the safety of their very own families in order to inform the world of the truth that the corrupt media denies. These people are taking big risks by coming forward so they deserve to at least be heard no matter how controversial their statements may be.

For one thing, statistically it is bordering on impossible for us to be alone. Second, it has been proven time and time again that interstellar travel is NOT impossible, just not feasible at our current stage in development. Third, based on the mountain of scientific evidence available regarding the subject matter it is not just possible but probable that we have been visited by highly advanced extraterrestrial civilizations far in advance of our own.

It is time to stop thinking of this subject as science fiction, and instead, start to recognise it as a probable reality.

It seems clear to me that the argument expressing concern over social or religious discord, in the face of estimates that point to possible extraterrestrial visitation, is not strong enough.

However, if such discord was channeled into political action, such as the religious right could bring to bear, there would be fear and trepidation in Washington. With the potential for the loss of consensus, there could be a call for paper trail investigations, and without a follow through, they would throw the bums out!

The voting public will not tolerate another cover-up. They won't stand being strangers in their own land.

Agreed. BTW, I'm one of those people who have seen something unidentified.



Exactly... maybe, maybe not. Belief can influence a person regardless of their standing in society or their level of education.



Exactly, and this proof is going to have to include something more than eye witness testimony.

Nothing personal, but that is a little like Kennith Lay dismissing the accusations against him by saying, "Prove it!".

When an unhindered investigation recovers the records, the other foot comes down.

As for me, I would dread another arms race, if any such revelations leaked classified defence ideas. Not that the Chinese have the capability of the West, but they certainly are interested.

For that kind of reason, I expect Lilly's view of things to more than likely continue as the status quo. No dialogue, no closed door discussions, no creating another committee to deal openly with what has been possibly dealt with, already.

It would not be business as usual if we interacted with starfaring societies. They would be obliged to confront the fact that we have certain needs, that require solutions. The developed nations are expanding investments into what until recently were third world nations. Certain imbalances will need addressing, eventually.

It has always been natural not to expect cosmic postcards, much less cosmic wetnurses.
I have a feeling, that if a species makes certain advancements, which include some physics that are very much ahead of what we do, they keep it for themselves.

It will be up to us, to continue making our own progress. We are certainly not slow, in what progress we do make. But Star Trek, etc, is what Dr. Greer is hinting at. I doubt science will progress that fast. Even that story took place a millenia from now.

I totally agree!
The reasons given on why a certain facton of the Government is covering up the truth are always considered negative; power over the few etc
Yet the reasons why the aliens operate covertly are always considered positive; they don't want to interfere with our culture etc.

I'm not sure it would be even possible to shoot down an alien craft? I not sure an alien craft could accidently crash either?

Any form of communication between humans and aliens will always be on the alien's terms.

But, we tried!

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INTRODUCTORY SPACE SCIENCE - VOLUME II
CHAPTER XXXIII
UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS
DEPARTMENT OF PHYSICS - USAF
UNITED STATES AIR FORCE ACADEMY


"More recently, on 24 July 1957 Russian anti-aircraft batteries on the Kouril Islands opened fire on UFO's. Although all Soviet anti-aircraft batteries on the Islands were in action, no hits were made. The UFO's were luminous and moved very fast."

"We too have fired on UFO's. About ten o'clock one morning, a radar site near a fighter base picked up a UFO doing 700 mph. The UFO then slowed to 100 mph, and two F-86's were scrambled to intercept. Eventually one F-86 closed on the UFO at about 3,000 feet altitude. The UFO began to accelerate away but the pilot still managed to get within 500 yards of the target for a short period of time. It was definitely saucer-shaped. As the pilot pushed the F-86 at top speed, the UFO began to pull away. When the range reached 1,000 yards, the pilot armed his guns and fired in an attempt to down the saucer. He failed, and the UFO pulled away rapidly, vanishing in the distance. "
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Absolutely. I just haven't heard of a case where we successfully shot one down.
Well apart from the south african Kalahari incident but this is hotly disputed..(Like most cases I suppose )

Kalahari incident

On May 7, 1989, Louw told the Saturday Star newspaper, the South African Airforce shot down a UFO travelling at a speed of around 5,746 nautical miles in the skies over the Kalahari Desert near the country's border with Botswana.

When intelligence officers arrived at the site where the object had crashed, they found a large craft that emitted a strong magnetic
and radio field in a 12 metre deep crater with a diameter of 150 metres, the newspaper reported, quoting him.

Two "humanoid entities" were found inside the UFO - or what non- ufologists would call a "flying saucer," according to Louw.

"They apparently had greyish-blue skins and no body or facial hair," he told the newspaper adding: "Their heads were much larger than a human's, their necks exceptionally thin and their hands had only three digits, which were webbed."


But this suspected of being a hoax http://www.anomalies.net/archive/cni-news/CNI.0635.html

Skyeagle, what is your opinion on this case?

To be taken serious, you need physical evidence that can be examined at leisure by skeptical scientists: a scraping of the whole object/ship, and the discovery that it contains isotopic ratios that aren't present on earth, chemical elements form the so-called island of stability, very heavy elements that don't exist on earth. Or material of absolutely bizarre properties of many sorts -- electrical conductivity or ductility.

There are many things like that that would instantly give serious credence to an account. So far I havent seen any, all I see is stories, blurry pictures, hoaxes and wishful thinking from kids in love with the idea that the galaxy is filled with high-tec spiecies like on Star Trek.

Dont get me wrong. I understand that some people love the idea of Earth or its human inhabitants have not only attracted the attention of galactic neighbors, but encouraged them to visit. But frankly, there is no support, hard scientific evidence, to this somewhat self-indulgent idea.

I agree stories and speculation aren't enough we need that solid physical evidence. some of the stories like Roswell for example have major holes that cannot be ignored. Some people find God and or Jesus etc. Others find aliens to fill those voids in their lives to give them purpose. The whole alien movement has become somewhat of a 'new age' religeon and has spawned religeos organizations such as scientology etc. Wishfull thinking however is not enough.

So, there seems to be an argument here that people in the past believed things via faith (and presented their beliefs as being reality), but that this does not happen nowadays? Really? I suggest that everyone think long and hard about this one. I've seen people (and not mere peasants, mind you) declare proof for any number of things; people claiming all sorts of psychic and/or magical abilities, various and sundry religious realities (from proof for a geocentric solar system, to the cure of terminal disease), revisions of history that are so extreme as to cause one's mind to spin, and yes, alien visitation/conspiracy.

Now, could alien visitation be a reality? Yes, it could be, so could certain psychic abilities, and probably various other ideas as well. But, until we have some type of irrefutable evidence that these speculations are reality...they remain speculations. Should we look seriously at some of these ideas, especially UFOs? Well, I sure as heck think that we should, but we must also keep in mind that people can, and do, speak from a position of belief (yes, even in 2006).

People believe whatever they want to believe, it's not if you can prove it or not. If somebody decides that he doesnt believe UFO's no matter you do will change his mind.

Similarly you've got a lot of fantasists who'll believe in anything they see posted on forums like this dotted across the internet - whether it be the mythical City of Atlantis, the tooth fairy or, as in the case of this 'Disclosure Project' nonsense, UFOs being flown by little green men.

With the increasing prominence of internet access, the burden of proof's been significantly lowered when it comes to the discussion of matters like this - I bet you if I spent the whole of tomorrow making up a story about how I was abducted by poco dot pink aliens, raped by some of their females, had implants shoved up by bottom and was then unceremoniously dumped in the middle of a crop circle, enough people on this forum would believe that all of those things had actually happened to me.

Then, if a day later I came back onto the forum and declared it a work of science-fiction (poor science-fiction) you'd have people claiming that in the time between posting the original work of fiction and stating that those things hadn't actually happened to me, the 'government' had 'got' to me and forced me to change my 'story'.

Lanton is right, there are people that needs to believe in this so much that their critical thinking ability is set to zero.

If other high-tec lifeforms exist at all ,odds are that they dont knows that we are here. I think that we can all agree on one thing though...... An indisputable fact.

We are the new arrivals on the technological scene. Our strut on the galactic stage has just begun.

Sounds nice and I do have right to believe whatever I believe and I believe that we are not here alone.

And there are so many people there who will do anyting for their goverment and believe whatever they say, even if later they will find out that it was a lie. How many men have died for freedom of Iraq for example.

This is so much self-serving, self-agrandizing piffle.

You know squat about astro-chemistry, astronomy, and the Universe at large. You are a pretender to intellectual reasoning. The Universe makes you, and your knowledge, a mote.

We are the late great inheritors, and spenders of a one time, limited energy endowment.
We will be in serious trouble in a few generations, going by every government report I have read, and every hard-fact reasoning oil analyst who plays straight.

Our so-called strut has NASA looking for ways to get launch costs down by 90%. That is their new stated goal. Why? Could things be headed for a crawl, eventually?

Not for the centers of wealth. But, they will have to comandeer oil, to continue unhindered for another hundred years. And the wealth that a society needs to have a "strut program" may come unglued.

I may not know all there is to know about the universe but I do know this about the possibility of ET life. I do know that this possibility is surely tied to the frequency with which stars are born. Clearly, a greater flux of new stars will ultimately produce a larger number of planets with thinking beings.

What is the star formation rate? Well, there are roughly 200 billion stars in the Milky Way, and that means that the average rate over the last 13 billion years has been about 15 new stars per year. In fact, however, this average rate is two tads misleading. Anyone whos used a radio telescope to study galaxies knows that when you examine a big spiral like the Milky Way, you find that the total amount of interstellar gas is typically a few percent of the mass of all the stars. Since interstellar gas is the stuff from which stars are built, its obvious that theres little material around today for constructing new ones.

Sure, stars explode as they die, spewing some of their contents back into space. Even the Sun will blow off some steam as it heads for the stellar bone yard. But the great majority of whats inside the Sun will stay there forever, locked in by gravitation. The ingredients for new stars are sparse, and most of the stars that our Galaxy will ever make have been made.

Clearly, this must affect the roster for our club of intelligent beings. But how? There are two obvious possibilities. One is that intelligence is such a useful attribute that technological societies last a really long time billions of years. Heck, trilobites lasted a half-billion years, and they werent even smart (by any reasonable standard). So maybe the thinking-beings club is home to really, really old societies, and were like preschoolers surrounded by grad students.

The other possibility is that, no, technology doesnt survive for such long time spans. And while the Galaxy may have spawned great civilizations in the deep and distant past, they are mostly gone now. In this scenario, other club members are not quite so ancient, but they’re in short supply.

Which, if either, of these possibilities is true will only become clear when we have decoded a signal from elsewhere,or if they stop by to say hi.

And about astro-chemistry.

Its question as common as brown dogs: will alien life be carbon-based?

If you remember your high school chemistry, youll recall that carbon has half of its outer electron shell filled. In other words, each carbon atom is able (and eager) to bond with up to four other electron-sharing atoms (most atoms prefer to have a filled outer shell of eight electrons). As a common example, a single carbon atom will eagerly take on four hydrogen atoms to make methane (CH4). And because carbons outer shell is both half filled and half empty, it can handily hook up with other carbon atoms, creating the sort of elaborate molecular chains and rings that fuel companies love to pump.

Carbon, in other words, is adept at making complex structures. And complex structures are the bricks of life.

Are there other contenders? Is carbon really so special, or did it just get lucky here on Earth? If you have a periodic table handy, youll note that the element situated under carbon is silicon, which also has four electrons in its outer shell. Ergo, silicon might also seem to be an obvious basis for life, a point that was first made at the end of the nineteenth century by the German astrophysicist, Julius Scheiner. The optimistic Scheiner was certain that other planets in our solar system (including roasty toasty Mercury) sported life.

But his sunny attitude was misplaced when it comes to silicon-based beings. Silicon may be carbons chemical cousin, but its a poor relation. Because the silicon atom is larger, its bonds with other elements are weaker. While carbon hooks up with two oxygen atoms to make carbon dioxide, a nice waste product for both humans and SUVs, the silicon equivalent, silicon dioxide, quickly assembles itself into a crystalline lattice. Its better known as sand, and would make exhaling a gritty experience. The weaker bonds of silicon also preclude the easy formation of those long, same-atom molecular chains that underlie many biological compounds. A slew of complex carbon-based molecules are easily produced in comets, interstellar dust, and university glassware. But if you check out natures chemistry lab for silicon (consider volcanic lava), the products are far less interesting.

If thats not enough to dissuade you from silicon, consider this: theres just a lot more carbon around. Cooked up in the searing interiors of stars.

You are calling me a "pretender of intellectual reasoning", ok, were are your thoughts on this matter.

You are wrong in so many ways I just don`t know were to begin.


Loved your reply Hazz.

I think we're gone off topic a bit with the old "mines bigger than yours" routine.
If any of these witnesses were put in a court of law their evidence would be enough to convict any suspected murderer.....a lot of them have been in charge of and responsible for the security of the US including commanding nuclear bases or squadrons.....and yet when they say this stuff is going on all of a sudden they're loonies
There are two possibilities ....all of them are lying about what theyve seen or they are not.
If they are lying.....why and for what gain ?
If they are not well whats next ?.
Y'know it really pisses me off when i see all these guys on forums spouting off as if they know all that is to be known about the possibility of life reaching here from other planets........The best physicists i've seen are the ones that will tell you our understanding of the universe and how it works is at the infant school stage relatively speaking, and thats a fact ......carbon atoms ,sheesh
Also remember that all theories are just that....theories are not facts ...if they were they would not be theories ..would they ?
One of the big subjects that physicists are examining now is space time ...and some weird sh** can happen here,also quantum physics shows us that we dont really understand much at ll.....at least the real brains will admit that we dont know what we dont know.
I doubt that the debunkers have even watched these video's ,if they have they shouldnt be concerned about trying to prove how other life forms got here but rather begin by telling us why all these well placed and intelligent witnesses are lying.
And listen people if guys come on here and tell you this or that is not possible ....because of x.y or z..... ask yourself ....if the worlds best brains will admit we know very little about the universe how can these guys know what is and isn't possible ,a lot of em just like to think they are blinding us with science whereas in effect what they are really doing is baffling us with bulls*** !

Bogeyman,dude, the law is typically administered through a system of courts in which judges (sometimes with the aid of a jury or lay magistrate) hear disputes between parties,and then apply a set of rules in order to provide an outcome of what they think might be true and fair.

Science does not work like that .Sheesh.


YOU NEED TO READ THIS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method

No, there are more than just two choices here. Some of the witnesses could be lying and some of them could be telling the truth. Some of them could also be delusional (it's the "truth" for them, but it exists only in their own minds). Now, before you tell me that smart, educated people can't be delusional, I suggest you check out John Nash. Unfortunately, some people can have trouble distinguishing reality from fantasy due to mental illness. Now, I'm not saying that any of these witnesses are mentally ill in some manner that affects their ability to distinguish fact from fantasy, but it is a possibility. It's also possible that some of these people actually did have contact with advanced alien life forms. The problem is that there's no way to know exactly what the truth is here. Without more evidence there's no way to make a decision about this subject in a rational/objective manner.

BTW, I have watched these videos. Also, trying to figure out how aliens might be able to cross vast distances, and from where such aliens may have originated is an important part of investigating this whole issue.

vast distances :Is faster than light travel possible ? yes quantum particles do it ....and hey we dont know too much about them do we ?
http://www.lifesci.sussex.ac.uk/home/John_...tum.htm#Photons

As for the rest i accept that some could be lying ..is it likely with over 400 high profile witnesses of this calibre ? i very much doubt it .
Are they all delusional fantasising or mentally ill ?...well does that even merit a reply .
Now heres where i'm with you okay ....if they actually have been in contact with alien life forms well we need more proof....AGREED .But isnt that thew whole point of the disclosure project ...these witnesses are looking for release from their national security oaths from congress...so that they and many many others can fully tell what they know.If there are no Aliens ....WHY NOT give it to them ?. This is the track veryone should be taking and then possibly we will find out the truth....a lot of us are open to it but not yet convinced....we're not all dopes who believe in anything willy nilly.But to just perisitently say NO it's not possible they're all mad and loonies etc is just playing into the hands of the ones who dont want it discussed for whatever reason.
If these people are allowed to talk and theres nothing to it well then they're just going to make gigantic assholes of themselves arent they ?
The calibre of these witnesses and their combined experience in their careers demands that at least they should be given the chance to prove what they're saying .....IMO

So,in the end,after all this song and dance routine,when all these witnesses have their release from their national security oaths from congress.......all we get is more eye witness testimony.



I cant wait.

I never said that. I said that we have to include the possibility that some could be lying and that some could be delusional.



I have no problem with this, as long as they wouldn't be disclosing any advanced black project aircraft that we don't want our enemies to know about.




I never said this either. I'm all for discussing this subject. In fact, I'm here right now discussing this very subject!



Absolutely, they should be given every opportunity to prove themselves. However, remember that the calibre of a person does not preclude the possiblity of their telling a lie, or of their being deluded in some manner.

If this just leads to more eye witness testimoney well then i would be as dissapointed as any....but what if they could come out and say there are discs here and there are devices there etc....and then access could be gained to these facilities...without compromising secyrity....you see the problem is that the very fact these craft may be held secretly somewhere gives a security excuse doesn't it ? in other words if everyone knows about em the select few lose their advantage ....so then what ?
I'll say it agin ...IF there are aliens tied up in all of this they are just as complicit in the secret.