Thanx for that coldethyl

Haha! No problem!

I'm not laughing at you of accusing you of anything. You need to realize that alot of people have come here with stories and got everyone all riled up, got people to search for info, offers of help, just to find out it was a hoax or something similar. alot of people on this board are jaded to the truth due to these people that think it is funny, or just searching for attention. Also, one has to rule out all natural explanations before the paranormal can be assumed. if we didn't, we would still think lightning and thunder were signs of displeasure from the gods. Not everyone here is trying to accuse you or your girlfriend of wrong doing, but please try to see it from our point of view. As for time and money to catch ghosts... well, try contacting a local paranormal study group. even if it is a few towns away, many will travel and look into your situation for no or minimal fees. I am not trying to disrespect you in any way with this post, so please dent flame me.

OK, this sounds like a movie, first and foremost. However, I am going to assume that you aren't screwing with us.

Every suggestion so far has been a valid one.

Most of the frustration you are feeling comes from the fact that you haven't acted on any suggestion made thus far... many of which are inexpensive to impliment.

I still think the g/f is a likely candidate for this... localization of phone patterns etc. If it were happening whenever you were on the phone with anyone, then this ouldn't even come up. However, since it only happens when you are on the phone with her and you said the voices come through when you are on hold... Buddy, i'm not tryin to piss you off but you may not be on hold. The beeping when you are both on the line is really easy for her to do.

Then, you said that the voices became more hostile when you told her that you were leaving her... once again, seems like she may be a little nuts and screwing with you.

I understand why this would be an upsetting prospect, however, it seems the most likely and plausible. In addition it would completely explain the symptoms you describe.

If you want to rule her out, do as one suggested and try calling her when you are in the same room with her. My money says she won't do this or, if she does, you won't hear any voices.

But that's just me.

--Marty

BTW, accusing us of not caring is kindof rediculous when you've had as many responses and suggestions from so many people... especially when you aren't acting on any of the suggestions...
There are no clear cut answers in the paranormal (if in fact, that's what this is), thus we aren't 'holding out' on any of the info. Just work with us and I can garuntee we find an acceptable and copasetic (completely mangled that spelling, lol) solution... There are a lot of very smart people on this board who know a *lot* about things like this.

Thank-you Onyxdk, yes that is exactly what most have been doing, trying to help.

Good post Marty, and Frank n' Liz.

Nostalgia stop a moment and put yourself in our shoes, then go back and read what you have posted in this thread thus far. While doing so keep in mind, it is important and neccessary to "first" consider ALL plausible causes which might explain what has been experienced, then eliminate them one by one. Once you have done this you can then begin to consider the paranormal, and start the process of identifying what it is and what one can try to do about it.

You want to just jump to how do I make it stop. How can you make something paranormal stop, if you/we don't even know for certain it is something paranormal you are dealing with?

Surely you can understand why many have not automatically said, yep those are definitely spirit voices, here is what you need to do etc. And why the suggestion that this could be your g/f doing this would be made. Here are quotes of what you said (I’ve bolded parts that stood out when I first read your posts):

“no matter WHERE i call from, public, home, office it beeps constantly, and we both hear someone comming through whispering threats like "Im going to kill you.. .ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"

“Our relationship is in danger because we can't talk on the phone without these unwanted spirits bothering us... everytime we try to talk, the BEEPing interupts us. Every single time.... so far a grandad has came through, and a ghost who insults me and tells chelsea im cheating on her in a faint whisper..... I dont know what to do... how to stop it, i was hoping someone here might know. please help...”

“Last night i told my girlfriend i was leaving... and guess what? BEEEEEEP BEEEEP BEEP and here comes my sister again....once my girlfriend switches over to answer a call, those voices come through. the first time it was "YOUR a liar steven! you dont love herrrrrr ugghh haghhhh" and heavy breathing. Then i just said hey maybe i'll go for a bike ride.... and Renee came through and said "Come join us... we want youuuuuuuuuuuu" "Donttt gooo or you will dieeee"

“I knew someone would think its my girl. But its not, it only happens on the phone with her. And the voice from my sister only comes through when chelsea sets the phone down...”

And most recently you said:

Them people on the other line sure do know alot about my personal life... i tell ya.”

The beeping and voices only happen when you are talking to your g/f Chelsea, no matter what phone you use. The only time your sister comes through is when Chelsea puts the phone down (you on hold). And as for you saying "them people sure do know a lot about my personal life I tell ya", well who else knows a lot about your personal life?

Can you now see why others would say it could be your g/f? As Marty noted, if you were getting these voices when you talked on the phone with different people, the suggestion wouldn't have even been made. Do you not wonder or find it odd, that if your sister is trying to communicate with you, that she wouldn’t try no matter who you were talking with? And the other voices wouldn’t have happened at least a couple of times while talking to others? When you let your friends hear it happen, was one of them with Chelsea listening from her phone by chance? Or did they only hear it on your phone, and she was at home or wherever alone?

I am not saying this is definitely her, only it is reasonable for you to be honest with yourself and ensure that it is not. You know her to be an honest and trusting person, and I respect that, but even after being with another for 20yrs you still may not know all there is to know about them. How long have you known her, and been in a relationship? Have you never heard anyone state how shocked they were to find out a person they knew and loved so well did something so out of character that surely there has to be a mistake?

You have asked for our help and opinions, we have and continue to give you that. Yet you respond with an accusation that no one will help you unless you record the voices, we are just laughing at you. Not only is that not true, it was unfair and rather rude of you to say, considering the time others have taken thus far to try and help you.

First you said: “does anyone know how to record a phone coversation on the phone? i mean i could put a microphone to the headpeice part where the sound comes out, but that would distort an already heavily distorted sound.”

And now you are saying: And you wont help me because i dont actually try to record this stuff? because i dont have the time, or money to try and catch ghosts. And since i'm not doing this, im being refused help by a few people.”

I have given you info on how you can record the voices as have others. This is not trying to help you? The overall advice/suggestions given so far, looking for explanation and asking questions is not trying to help you? Sorry but I'm not playing tiddly winks here, nor are several others.

Why is it that after we give you info on how to record, you now are telling us you are not going to do it, because you don't have time nor money? I can understand if funds are not there to buy a new recording device, but it sounded like you already had a recorder which should work. Plus there are many pn teams out there who would be willing to help you do this, using their equipment at not cost to you what-so-ever. Any group that charges should be avoided. And there is always the options of borrowing a recorder or using a computer to record them. It takes little time to make a recording and upload it to your computer. I'm sure others would help you get it so it can be shared in a post.

It be helpful for us to at least hear these voices rather than trying to imagine them, plus running the recording through an audio program will let you know what frequency level they are at. The frequency range for human voices is between 300mhz and 3000mhz, anything below or above that would be considered paranormal. Plus audio programs can often remove background noises, and boost the level of the evp a bit so it is clearer and easier to hear. Based on the information Renee gave you when she came through, plus other things heard, I can't see why a audible recording could not be made?

I do have other points but this is far too long already. I must be honest here, your new reluctance to record the voices, try any suggestions provided, explore plausible causes, and turning the focus back on us with the you won't help me comments, makes me wonder if you are being honest with us here. And I cannot understand how you can ask us for help and to give of our time, yet you are not willing to take any time nor put in any effort to help us out, nor yourself?

I will continue to try and help if you honestly want it and need it. However, if you don't want to work with us, and refuse to answer questions, try suggestions given, I will need to walk away. I'm not liking the way things are starting to add up. I sincerely hope you prove my doubts to be wrong. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

Have you ever thought that the reason people are asking you to record this is because, as investigators of such phenomena, any recordings would be of great value to many people on this board? You are asking for help, and people have given you what help they can, but when they ask for something in return, something that, if your story is true, it would be very easy for you to get hold of, you throw a big hissy fit and insult everyone.

Not a good way to go about getting help, if you ask me.

I sure hope you're telling the truth about this because if you're lying that's incredibly disrespectful to your sister.

I've re read this thread to see if I could come up with any more questions.

1. You say it happens with every phone, but does it happen in different places/locations?

2. How well does your Sister Rene and your girlfriend get on?

3.What about your girlfriends family/friends, do they like you?

4. Can you be positive that your girlfriend is hearing the exact same things/voices that you are. Think carefuly about this one. Power of suggestion can be a strong infulence.

Hypothetically speaking - She losely agrees that she can hear 'something'. Her reasons for losely agreeing could be many. You take that as her agreeing that she can hear voices too. Now it's seeded in your mind that both of you are hearing the same voices. When it may not be the case.

To say you hear 'something' is not the same as hearing exactly the same thing you did. We can all hear 'something' if something is suggested and we listen hard enough.




Who hears the voices first?

I think this is a dead thread guys... The story was farfetched at the onset and the OP's actions and long quiet spells don't help the validity of the story... A shame that our time was apparently wasted yet again.

--Marty

Even if the OP was lying through his teeth, I don't think it's a waste of time. If nothing else, we get practice evaluating stories of questionable validity. And it proves that even those of us who take ghost sightings seriously don't wholeheartedly accept every report at face value.

I think that in this field as in most, we take the bad with the good and count it all good.

Even handed as always boorite... I just get frustrated with so many threads like this. We all spend time looking things up, thinking about it, etc etc. Just wish more people were on the level is all.

But you are correct. Training and info gathering to help us spot the fakes and the real ones.

--Marty

Yeah that's a good point. It also sends out a clear message that we are serious about things here.

These posts made me smile a lot. Thanks Marty and Anvil.

As much as I would like to hear from the original poster, there are many possible things that have happened to them, so I don't think we should jump the gun and assume they're never coming back. There was pause in responses back in July until Aug, so like everyone usually says you have to rule everything out first before you come to the conclusion right?

Yeah she did open up a portal..... or some sh** cause this stuff is creepy.... does anyone know how to record a phone coversation on the phone? i mean i could put a microphone to the headpeice part where the sound comes out, but that would distort an already heavily distorted sound

Ok to start of you were the one who brought up the idea of recording the phone conversation!!!!!!!!

we both hear someone comming through whispering threats like "Im going to kill you.. .ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"

and a ghost who insults me and tells chelsea im cheating on her in a faint whisper.....

So here you are saying you both here the whispering, and then you write

I knew someone would think its my girl. But its not, it only happens on the phone with her. And the voice from my sister only comes through when chelsea sets the phone down..

once my girlfriend switches over to answer a call, those voices come through

And then the voice only comes through when your girlfriend puts the phone down, or switchs to another call. So how can she here it. I'm confused. I really want to believe your story but theres a couple of loop holes. Trust me im a deep believer in this kind of thing but you are contridicting yourself in your own story, if you are speaking the truth i hope you can get to the bottom of it, if you aren't please don't waste our time

I think we can call it busted.

oh well

probably because too many people made bad comments

this story reminds me of the movie "the other "from 1972..............B