nostalgia
Jul 18 2006, 03:36 AM
Hi. Lets just start off to say i have two sisters, who are pyschic.... i didn't find out till i was 20 years old that they were my sisters, and that they were twins. anyways i would talk to them, and they could both be very psychotic at times, and believe me, they had to be pyschic or whatever, because they knew alot of stuff no one knows about me. and back in december one of my sisters, Renee took her own life.
All was fine for a while... until my other sister Andrea told me renee was trying to come through to me on the phone. so when i got on the phone with my girlfriend, all that would happen is constant key pressing and it was very annoying.... me and my girlfriend were both on cellphones so it wasn't really possible that it seems. it was something like this... "hey chelsea... BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP uhm hey BEEEEEEEEEEP BEEP BEEP" and it wouldn't stop for nothing. so i said if this is renee, press 1, and it pressed one. Andrea told me that she misses me and my girlfriend so i though i'd talk to her, and when i did it was a faint whisper.... like something off an EVP.
Then the real stuff started.... it happens now EVERY time... no matter WHERE i call from, public, home, office it beeps constantly, and we both hear someone comming through whispering threats like "Im going to kill you.. .ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"
Our relationship is in danger because we can't talk on the phone without these unwanted spirits bothering us... everytime we try to talk, the BEEPing interupts us. Every single time.... so far a grandad has came through, and a ghost who insults me and tells chelsea im cheating on her in a faint whisper..... I dont know what to do... how to stop it, i was hoping someone here might know. please help...
thank you
Xenojjin
Jul 18 2006, 03:53 AM
Im going to assume your telling the truth.
What I would do in your case is try and talk to her ( the ghost ) alone. Perhaps the beeping is because she is having a hard time reaching you. Another reason could be she only wants to talk to you and wants no one else to hear it.
In this case a good idea might be to get a cell phone and then call your home phone number while at home, and see if you can make a few calls in the specific attempt to see what she wants from you.
RamboIII
Jul 18 2006, 04:17 AM
Maybe the NSA is playing a cruel joke on you?

But really, that is weird, do you hear the sounds when you hand someone else the phone, or do they hear the same sounds?
BABYG
Jul 18 2006, 02:38 PM
That is really scarey, does it only happen when you are talking to your girlfriend or is it everytime you are on the phone. What does your sister think about this, can she help you somehow.
coldethyl
Jul 18 2006, 03:32 PM
You might want to call other people besides your g/f and relatives and see if it happens then. If you can call anyone besides them, then maybe one of them is doing it....
nostalgia
Jul 19 2006, 12:31 AM
I knew someone would think its my girl. But its not, it only happens on the phone with her. And the voice from my sister only comes through when chelsea sets the phone down...
My sister told me NOT TO TALK to anything trying to come through. My living sister says shes in the "Third world" where spirits become lost and have evil thoughts. im not sure about all that but i know my deceased sister was bothering me.
So what i do is set down the phone for about 10 minutes, while it beeps and beeps, then it stops and its worked since then. haven't been bothered latley.
eatincandyisgood
Jul 19 2006, 12:55 AM
QUOTE(nostalgia @ Jul 17 2006, 11:36 PM) [snapback]1273960[/snapback]
anyways i would talk to them, and they could both be very psychotic at times, and believe me, they had to be pyschic or whatever, because they knew alot of stuff no one knows about me.
to be psychotic and psychic are two completely seperate things.
piratejackdavamp
Jul 19 2006, 12:56 AM
QUOTE(nostalgia @ Jul 17 2006, 11:36 PM) [snapback]1273960[/snapback]
Hi. Lets just start off to say i have two sisters, who are pyschic.... i didn't find out till i was 20 years old that they were my sisters, and that they were twins. anyways i would talk to them, and they could both be very psychotic at times, and believe me, they had to be pyschic or whatever, because they knew alot of stuff no one knows about me. and back in december one of my sisters, Renee took her own life.
All was fine for a while... until my other sister Andrea told me renee was trying to come through to me on the phone. so when i got on the phone with my girlfriend, all that would happen is constant key pressing and it was very annoying.... me and my girlfriend were both on cellphones so it wasn't really possible that it seems. it was something like this... "hey chelsea... BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP uhm hey BEEEEEEEEEEP BEEP BEEP" and it wouldn't stop for nothing. so i said if this is renee, press 1, and it pressed one. Andrea told me that she misses me and my girlfriend so i though i'd talk to her, and when i did it was a faint whisper.... like something off an EVP.
Then the real stuff started.... it happens now EVERY time... no matter WHERE i call from, public, home, office it beeps constantly, and we both hear someone comming through whispering threats like "Im going to kill you.. .ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"
Our relationship is in danger because we can't talk on the phone without these unwanted spirits bothering us... everytime we try to talk, the BEEPing interupts us. Every single time.... so far a grandad has came through, and a ghost who insults me and tells chelsea im cheating on her in a faint whisper..... I dont know what to do... how to stop it, i was hoping someone here might know. please help...
thank you
Have you tried using a land line?
Oh and EVP is something recorded that you can hear afterwards not during the recording.
QUOTE(nostalgia @ Jul 18 2006, 08:31 PM) [snapback]1275160[/snapback]
I knew someone would think its my girl. But its not, it only happens on the phone with her. And the voice from my sister only comes through when chelsea sets the phone down...
My sister told me NOT TO TALK to anything trying to come through. My living sister says shes in the "Third world" where spirits become lost and have evil thoughts. im not sure about all that but i know my deceased sister was bothering me.
So what i do is set down the phone for about 10 minutes, while it beeps and beeps, then it stops and its worked since then. haven't been bothered latley.
Also if it still happens could you record it and post it on a website so we can hear it too, i would like to listen.
nostalgia
Jul 19 2006, 01:06 AM
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to be psychotic and psychic are two completely seperate things.
I know. They are Both. they have split-personalities...
eatincandyisgood
Jul 19 2006, 01:31 AM
so they are mentally ill and psychic as well????
why would disrupted phone calls affect your relationship??? maybe you should just see her in person. someone suggested to use a land line, maybe try that. and why would your sister try and ruin your relationship??if she liked you in life, i don't think she would try and do things to harm you in any way.
and if they were mentally ill, how can you trust what your living sister says????
Lady Warrior Ravynwynn
Jul 19 2006, 02:15 AM
Yo!
The same thing happened to me, when I was talking with a friend that lived far away, and she was upset because her sister and father had died. I thought she was pushing the phone buttons, for some reason, but people with her said she wasn't. She was terrified! I just chalked it up to being another paranormal incident, and had never heard of it happening to anyone else, until now. This is kind of a relief, but I still don't understand it. It is different from all of my other spiritual encounters. We did get some pictures of my friend, later, and there were many orbs around her in the pictures. The point of my telling you that, is that I am sure she is a person who has the kind of energy that spirits are attracted to, and want to communicate with. She wants nothing to do with that, because of her very strict Baptist religion, which is fine, but then we couldn't really find out any more about what was happening. Try having someone take some pictures of you with a digital camera, and see what comes up. Maybe I am way off here, but what the heck, you have to carefully try some things in order to find out what exactly you are dealing with.
coldethyl
Jul 19 2006, 04:58 PM
If your sister is psychotic, then you are in for problems. She's probably the one doing it. I don't believe in the diagnosis of split personalities.

Good luck.
Bella-Angelique
Jul 19 2006, 05:15 PM
It is your girlfriend.
Face it.
Get a new girlfriend.
There are some things that are just cruel and hauntings from suicides are not something to turn into a big joke to share with others.
Tell her to get a life and kick her to the curb.
You can do better than swallowing her crap with your life.
Daniella2310
Jul 19 2006, 05:55 PM
Maybe when your dead sister was trying to communicate with you, it opened like a portal through the phone in which other bad spirits got "in" there too.
coldethyl
Jul 19 2006, 07:47 PM
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It is your girlfriend.
Face it.
Get a new girlfriend.
There are some things that are just cruel and hauntings from suicides are not something to turn into a big joke to share with others.
Tell her to get a life and kick her to the curb.
You can do better than swallowing her crap with your life.
Blunt, but I agree.

If it's not your g/f it's your sister.
nostalgia
Jul 19 2006, 08:48 PM
Yeah she did open up a portal..... or some sh** cause this stuff is creepy.... does anyone know how to record a phone coversation on the phone? i mean i could put a microphone to the headpeice part where the sound comes out, but that would distort an already heavily distorted sound. Last night i told my girlfriend i was leaving... and guess what? BEEEEEEP BEEEEP BEEP and here comes my sister again....once my girlfriend switches over to answer a call, those voices come through. the first time it was "YOUR a liar steven! you dont love herrrrrr ugghh haghhhh" and heavy breathing. Then i just said hey maybe i'll go for a bike ride.... and Renee came through and said "Come join us... we want youuuuuuuuuuuu"
"Donttt gooo or you will dieeee"
For anyone who is curious, Renee described the place she is in as a very cold, crowded area. she said she is falling in a bottomless pit. she is "stuck" she also said expect a visit... and my damn TV turns on when its unplugged! and im like HEY WHY NOT DO THAT WHEN THE POWER GOES OUT! then you'd really be useful!
im still being bothered about 5 times out of 10. its usually at night and the spirit said it's active at night and uses stuff like TV's, PHONES, RADIOs stuff with electricity as an enery source.
Shiggity Shiggity Shwa 2
Jul 20 2006, 01:38 AM
yeah ...thats pretty creepy....if it were true......record the convo and put it on this website
Lady_Anvilabeel
Jul 20 2006, 09:58 AM
If there is any truth in this get a recording since it is ongoing, also you haven't answered the question as to whether this happens only when you speak to your gf?
QUOTE
Last night i told my girlfriend i was leaving... and guess what? BEEEEEEP BEEEEP BEEP and here comes my sister again....once my girlfriend switches over to answer a call, those voices come through. the first time it was "YOUR a liar steven! you dont love herrrrrr ugghh haghhhh" and heavy breathing. Then i just said hey maybe i'll go for a bike ride.... and Renee came through and said "Come join us... we want youuuuuuuuuuuu"
"Donttt gooo or you will dieeee"
I'm not sure if I understood what you said correctly, so correct me if I'm wrong, but are you saying your gf is the one that hears these voices when she puts you on hold and goes to another call?
This only happens when you use your cell phone?
I do believe it's possible you are picking up spirit voices via the phone connection but I'm highly suspcious that it's not your sister if this is the case. At the moment you need to outrule other things like a prank, cross wires, or a third party playing a joke on you, ie a mischeivous friend, brother or sister on your side or your gf's listening into your calls.
hazzard
Jul 20 2006, 04:52 PM
GET A NEW GIRLFRIEND.
3y3l3ss
Jul 20 2006, 04:54 PM
No offence but it sounds like something from a movie, and lots of movies utilize this effect. If you can hear the voice well enough to definatlly make out what its saying with out error as well as the uuuhg, and uuuugh, effects then it should be clear enough to get on tape.
Also the TV powering on with out being plugged in is a favorite movie effect. Not that im saying you're lying but thats a possiblity too.
Why would your dead sister be trying to effect your relationship? Did you say she liked you and your girlfriend?
Did your sister do things in life that were mean or uncalled for to others?
Have your tried asking your living sister what your dead sister wants?
Have you confronted your living sister about the phone calls? Or your girlfriend?
Get a disposable camera and a recorder, tape the calls, get a pic of your TV on while its unplugged (ie. with the TV and the outlet in plain site

). Sorry if I seem rude, or pushy.
mystery-man
Jul 20 2006, 09:47 PM
Reminds me of the film White Noise in the scene where Beetlejuice's girlfriend leaves a message on the answer machine.
I can't remember the actors name - sorry
coldethyl
Jul 21 2006, 02:34 PM
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Reminds me of the film White Noise in the scene where Beetlejuice's girlfriend leaves a message on the answer machine.
I can't remember the actors name - sorry
Michael Keaton.
Bella-Angelique
Jul 21 2006, 02:38 PM
I will tell you something REALLY scary.
I have heard they are planing on making White Noise 2.
coldethyl
Jul 21 2006, 09:16 PM
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I will tell you something REALLY scary.
I have heard they are planing on making White Noise 2.

Well I only watched it for Michael Keaton and he died, so blah.
pentacle-witch
Jul 27 2006, 02:23 AM
hi, nostalgia, I happen to be psychic, too. I can offer you some help. Just so you the ghost that tells you all these awful things when you're on the phone with whoever. that's not your deceased sister. It's something bad trying to make you believe that it is your sister. It might some kind of demon personating the voice of your deceased sister and your living sister should try and help you get rid of it, somehow.
By sending it away you should call on God and the arch angels to come and help. Then visualize in your mind that you and everyone you love is surrounded by a protective bubble. And, also, to white light the inside of your house.
Hope this helps.
Lady Warrior Ravynwynn
Jul 27 2006, 05:33 AM
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hi, nostalgia, I happen to be psychic, too. I can offer you some help. Just so you the ghost that tells you all these awful things when you're on the phone with whoever. that's not your deceased sister. It's something bad trying to make you believe that it is your sister. It might some kind of demon personating the voice of your deceased sister and your living sister should try and help you get rid of it, somehow.
By sending it away you should call on God and the arch angels to come and help. Then visualize in your mind that you and everyone you love is surrounded by a protective bubble. And, also, to white light the inside of your house.
Hope this helps.
I agree, here. Archangels get it done!!! I also agree with Anvil, about ruling out possibilities, too. Cover all of the angles. These are all things that you can and need to do, because you need to take some action, that is why you originally posted for help.
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Lady_Anvilabeel
Jul 27 2006, 01:07 PM
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I agree, here. Archangels get it done!!! I also agree with Anvil, about ruling out possibilities, too. Cover all of the angles. These are all things that you can and need to do, because you need to take some action, that is why you originally posted for help.
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Thanks Lady Warrior, I still think there is more to get to the bottom of with this one before settling on it being spiritual

Wonders where the OP went anyway? >> Puts the waiting music on for this thread
Lady Warrior Ravynwynn
Jul 27 2006, 11:28 PM
[quote name='Anvil' date='Jul 27 2006, 06:07 AM' post='1284805']
Thanks Lady Warrior, I still think there is more to get to the bottom of with this one before settling on it being spiritual

Oh, I agree completely. I think covering it from every way would be a good idea.
I just loved that picture someone sent me!
luminousphoenix
Jul 27 2006, 11:36 PM
Wow pretty tripped out story!
Does it always happen on the same phone?
I'd be hanging up real quick! LOL Tell it to call you back and see if it does!
Lady_Anvilabeel
Jul 27 2006, 11:40 PM
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Oh, I agree completely. I think covering it from every way would be a good idea.
I just loved that picture someone sent me!
Yeah, I was in agreeance with you
nostalgia
Aug 18 2006, 04:02 AM
Does anyone have an ACTUAL solution to make the beeping stop? its doing it now, and its been going on for 5 minutes
Ms. Mugsie
Aug 18 2006, 05:58 AM
Why don't you take the phone in to where it was purchased from, and have them check it out for you? I would have also called them by now about getting third party cut-ins, and asked if they have a way to tell where it's coming from, or if it's even possible for it to happen so often. Is the battery fully charged when it beeps like this btw?
Did you ever tape these voices (calls) as you noted you were going to try and do? There is a device you can tape phone calls with, sorry can't recall the name, believe Radio Shack sells them. If you want to tape them it can be easily done. I've gotten decent recordings just by putting a microphone up to the ear piece, however you need to use a good quality mic. Are you still getting these voices?
I have to agree it could be your g/f. Have you ever had her call you or you her, while you were in the same room? I would have tried that a few times already. Have these voices been heard while she was talking at the same time, or only when she puts you on hold etc? Well no matter as a pre-recorded message is all you would need. Sorry if I missed this, but has anyone besides you and the g/f heard the voices, even since you first posted?
I really don't know how this could be your (living) sister unless she has figured out a way to cut into cell phone calls, and land lines.

Did you ever talk to your sister about the whole thing, without your g/f there?
Until all natural reasons have been ruled out, the phone has been checked etc, sorry but it's hard to speculate they are paranormal at this point.

Would also help if we could hear a recording of the voices.
ShaunZero
Aug 18 2006, 06:20 AM
Well, I'm sorry but I have to say I won't take you seriously(Not many others will either) untill you record the noises and prove to us your story is true.
LizFL
Aug 18 2006, 09:08 AM
The internet works with phone lines (or used to alot more than is does now). Do you have dial up? what happens when you IM with you GF?
If it is truely affecting your relationship, meet her in person and tell her why you cant talk on the phone. I was never much of a phone girl, so I wouldnt be offended if you couldnt talk very much. Unless you had to cancell a date or something, then have someone else call and let her know.
If this is a long distance relationship, there is always email, or my favorite (and frankly more romantic) , the art of letter writing. I've had the internet for ages, but while my husband was in Basic and AIT, my heart still skipped a beat every time I got real mail from him. Try that. Not only will it be harder for her to interfere (I'm thinking something to do with electricity or batteries or something... heck, I dont know how phones work), but you can use paper as a good medium to express yourself well.
Lady_Anvilabeel
Aug 18 2006, 11:20 AM
QUOTE(nostalgia @ Aug 18 2006, 05:02 AM) [snapback]1312487[/snapback]
Does anyone have an ACTUAL solution to make the beeping stop? its doing it now, and its been going on for 5 minutes
Nostalgia it's been a long time, you started this thread a month ago. Why won't you answer any of our questions? I really hope you aren't wasting our time
Lizard_King
Aug 18 2006, 12:07 PM
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Oh and EVP is something recorded that you can hear afterwards not during the recording.
NOT TRUE! I can think of 2 investigations I was a part of where we recorded an EVP that we heard in REALTIME.
QUOTE(piratejackdavamp @ Jul 19 2006, 12:56 PM) [snapback]1275174[/snapback]
Also if it still happens could you record it and post it on a website so we can hear it too, i would like to listen.
So would I.
Lizard_King
Aug 18 2006, 12:17 PM
QUOTE(mystery-man @ Jul 21 2006, 09:47 AM) [snapback]1277544[/snapback]
Reminds me of the film White Noise in the scene where Beetlejuice's girlfriend leaves a message on the answer machine.
I can't remember the actors name - sorry
Michael Keaton
Lizard_King
Aug 18 2006, 12:30 PM
Well now I see that I SHOULD have looked at the next post.
Sorry about giving the same answer twice
nostalgia
Aug 18 2006, 03:35 PM
I'm here to get serious help because its ruining my life, im not here to entertain people with recordings. I dont care whether or not you believe me, i just want to know how to get it to stop.
DeadRobot
Aug 18 2006, 03:47 PM
QUOTE(nostalgia @ Aug 18 2006, 04:35 PM) [snapback]1312985[/snapback]
I'm here to get serious help because its ruining my life, im not here to entertain people with recordings. I dont care whether or not you believe me, i just want to know how to get it to stop.
Tell it to go away in as agressive and threatening way you can, warn your other half before doing this mind you. Go along the lines of "if you dont go away I will destroy the telephone line you reside in and if you do kill me as you claim your going to I will personally stalk you out of existance" that sort of thing. Feel free to add offensive language.
Only bad side I can see from doing this is folks around you when your using the phone might think your a nut-job.
nostalgia
Aug 18 2006, 03:51 PM
As i've mentioned before its not my phone, or hers, because we've tried all kinds of different phones, our house phones, and cell phones, and it still happens. When i call her from work it happens...
And to think, if it was cutting into someone's line, why would they be pressing numbers every time, and talking in a low tone where you can barely understand them, every single time. Them people on the other line sure do know alot about my personal life... i tell ya.
I've shown all my friends what happens while we are on the phone, and they genuinely hear it as well. It freaks them out....
My girlfriend is an honest, trustworthy person who makes an honest living as a secretary, there is absolutley no reason why she would be behind this. It is saddening to think everyone on this forum believes it is her before considering other alternitives.
And you wont help me because i dont actually try to record this stuff? because i dont have the time, or money to try and catch ghosts. And since i'm not doing this, im being refused help by a few people.
I had a feeling i was left alone to try and deal with this, anyone i ask for help refuses or laughs in my face.
DeadRobot
Aug 18 2006, 03:57 PM
QUOTE(nostalgia @ Aug 18 2006, 04:51 PM) [snapback]1313018[/snapback]
As i've mentioned before its not my phone, or hers, because we've tried all kinds of different phones, our house phones, and cell phones, and it still happens. When i call her from work it happens...
And to think, if it was cutting into someone's line, why would they be pressing numbers every time, and talking in a low tone where you can barely understand them, every single time. Them people on the other line sure do know alot about my personal life... i tell ya.
I've shown all my friends what happens while we are on the phone, and they genuinely hear it as well. It freaks them out....
My girlfriend is an honest, trustworthy person who makes an honest living as a secretary, there is absolutley no reason why she would be behind this. It is saddening to think everyone on this forum believes it is her before considering other alternitives.
And you wont help me because i dont actually try to record this stuff? because i dont have the time, or money to try and catch ghosts. And since i'm not doing this, im being refused help by a few people.
I had a feeling i was left alone to try and deal with this, anyone i ask for help refuses or laughs in my face.
I wasn't getting at whether it's in the line or not that was just an example of what to say when threatening it, What I meant was stand up to it confront it and see what happens.
nostalgia
Aug 18 2006, 04:03 PM
Thanks for trying to help, Dead Robot.
However, i've tried using the technique of agressiveness with no results, it simply angers the "Spirit" more and the pressing of numbers and voices seem to intensify.
Also hanging up, seems to intensify the problem.
I've noticed if you give it any kind of attention, it will stick around alot longer. But it has gotten increasingly worse. There was a saying "Thy spirits, Thy shall go now, and be at rest" or something like that which made it stop for a while, but then it came back somehow.
~Onyx~
Aug 18 2006, 04:14 PM
You have to understand how difficult it is to relate to a story such as this, and there have been people who have posted constructive responses to your problem that you should respect beacuse they took the time to respond to you(Anvil, Ms. Mugsie, Dead Robot etc..) and offer some explinations. I realize that you must be afraid and frustrated, but they are only trying to help.
boorite
Aug 18 2006, 06:14 PM
Listen, if this is going on, you need a good, genuine, reputable medium in there to find out what's happening and where to go from there. Period. There is no other way to find out who they are and want they want but to talk to them, and most of us aren't very good at that. Get a medium.
coldethyl
Aug 18 2006, 06:15 PM
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Well now I see that I SHOULD have looked at the next post.
Sorry about giving the same answer twice

I forgive you.
Lady_Anvilabeel
Aug 19 2006, 12:28 AM
QUOTE
You have to understand how difficult it is to relate to a story such as this, and there have been people who have posted constructive responses to your problem that you should respect beacuse they took the time to respond to you(Anvil, Ms. Mugsie, Dead Robot etc..) and offer some explinations. I realize that you must be afraid and frustrated, but they are only trying to help.
Thanks Onyxdk you explained this better, I may have come across as harsh as I do sometimes before in waiting for certain answers from the OP but it's all for helping.
The OP has only now said it happens on any phone whenever he calls her. I may seem like a pain here but does it happen when she calls him on any phone?
The only real way to get to the bottom of this IF it's spiritual is to get a medium in like boorite suggested. Lets cut from the chase and say that's what the OP should do...Look foward to hearing what comes of it.
Ghost_Seer
Aug 19 2006, 12:47 AM
I am also making the assumption that you are telling the truth.
It is possible that your deceased sister is earthbound and may be trying to reach out for help; albeit in a very disturbing and unhealthy way. As she committed suicide she was obviously mentally unbalanced at the time of her death. Sadly suicides often stay in the same distraught state in death as they were in life. I think you need "professional help" with this situation. Your best bet is to ask a spiritualist medium to make contact with your sister and help her to cross over. She may also have other negative spirits who are influencing or manipulating her, and they will need to be dealt with too. Good Luck.
The Dark Knight 77
Aug 19 2006, 01:05 AM
For anyone who is curious, Renee described the place she is in as a very cold, crowded area. she said she is falling in a bottomless pit. she is "stuck" she also said expect a visit... and my damn TV turns on when its unplugged! and im like HEY WHY NOT DO THAT WHEN THE POWER GOES OUT! then you'd really be useful!
I would like to bring something up, what your sayin sounds scary but yet very credible to me, i know theres alot of people that dont believe in god or the bible, but i remember one time at bible study my uncle was speaking to us explaining a place where certain spirits awaiting judgment go, and he said until the coming of lord jesus before the earth shall be destroyed all souls that are destined for eternal death await not in hell but in a place refered to as hades, people get the two mixed up because of the greek mythology underworld,Common misconception, anywayz spirits waiting jugdment for their deeds are said to be walking around in a cold dark crowded place, a bottomless pit is also spoken of by many people who have had NDE and came back to tell about this experience, people said that many people walk about sad and angry and there is great murmuring and confusion, souls seem lost and this is like a third realm where the deceased awaiting judgment dwell, some people who have had this experience say they died left earth throw a tunnel some type of portal, but instead of reaching the light they fell throw a long pit where many other souls are falling through, after reaching the bottom a man said he was tormented by evil spirits that scratched and attacked him violently, he said he called out for god and the spirits responded with anger that god wasnt down here, and continued to hurt the man, he later came back to life, he said he kept praying to god as a angel of light appeared and saved him bringing him back to the real world, the man lived to tell this story, people have had different stories some good and some bad, but the good mostly have the same stories even though the details might be a little different and the same goes for the bad NDE's, you should ask your psychic sister if she can reach out to her and try to help her, also i just wanted to remind you, i dont know what you believe in, but in the bible one of the ten commandments is thou shalt not kill, taking your own life is a grevious sin with no redemption or forgiving, this could explain alot, and im not trying to nbe rude im just trying to make sense of this, anyways dont take that the wrong way i dont mean it in any disrespectfull way, i send my prayers and condolences for your passed away sister, but speak to your sister, also find out what she says to your deceased sis, maybe there is still a way to help her. peace 1
jonb
Aug 19 2006, 03:13 AM
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