Abecrombie
Jul 18 2006, 07:10 AM
When one sleeps at night or daytime and is dreaming they are falling, usualy its said they are falling to there death. This is not true . Why? . I myself fell off a tall building and was falling but I landed . I didnt survive in my dream but I awoke much later to find Im very much alive in reality so In my opinion it is a false theory . Has this happened to anyone else? Usualy its said that if falling in a dream is falling to your death , you wake up before hitting the ground and if you dont wake up you die in your sleep. not in my dream.
Abecrombie
Pagan_2k
Jul 18 2006, 07:34 AM
I dont see how anybody could prove that a dream caused death.
It is possible that it could be done if you were pyschosomatic but that would be rare.
Personally, I die alot in my dreams, am still here though.
Abecrombie
Jul 18 2006, 07:53 AM
so others have died in dreams .. thanks for that information.
you have heard of the myth i mentioned though ,havent you ?
im curious because growing up until recently ive always heard that the falling dream
was real ,. and i thought like you thought,. how can they tell ? funny huh?
maybe because people usually wake up before they hit ground. ?
ai_guardian
Jul 18 2006, 08:01 AM
Yeah, just a myth I'm afraid
I've knowingly jumped off cliffs, buildings, bridges...ooooh that sinking feeling.....and never died unless we live in a Many Worlds and I did die in a split universe
ValpoSeeker
Jul 18 2006, 12:11 PM
Not only can I die in a dream and wake up, I have discovered that it is impossible to feel pain, at least in my lucid dreams. I burned myself with a cigarette in a dream and felt absolutely nothing. I could however feel a wall and other people so I take it to mean I didnt want to feel pain. Frequently I wil be in a plane crash in a dream and in that situation I dont even die I always seem to survive it miraculously. I think probably the only way a dream could cause death is from a heart attack.
Abecrombie
Jul 18 2006, 01:00 PM
Ah ...You guys kill me lol
Abecrombie
Pagan_2k
Jul 18 2006, 02:31 PM
QUOTE(Abecrombie @ Jul 18 2006, 03:00 PM) [snapback]1274273[/snapback]
Ah ...You guys kill me lol
Abecrombie
Bet you ten bucks you wake up tomorrow.
rice
Jul 18 2006, 04:16 PM
lol u never know...people can die of falling in their dreams. ask the people that experienced it...NO WAIT...THEYRE DEAD! jk

lol...eh i guess ur right...i havent died in my dreams yet..but many times i wake up when im close to danger.
BurnSide
Jul 18 2006, 04:28 PM
I think a little comon sense could have dismissed this 'theory' of dying in your dreams = dying in real life.
A dream is imagination.
It would be the same as say, sitting there at the computer, and thinking about falling, and then thinking about hitting the ground. Would you suddenly die?
explorer
Jul 21 2006, 03:55 PM
I think most of us have experienced what you're referring to; the feeling of falling onto one's bed from a height. Were we about to die if we didn't wake up? Only the dead know that.
Is there always a forensic explanation for people
dying whilst asleep? Is it possible that people who die whilst asleep are dreaming at the point of their death and maybe in fact are dreaming about their death? Don't know, but on the balance of probabilities, would there, amongst all those who've lived, been atleast one who achieved this rare honour....? Don't know but getting 'colder' (pun intended). Like Pagan wrote, you'd need to speak to the dead to prove it.
What about elderly people whose bodies survive with multiple physical calamities but whose minds have given up the chase. Is their release to dream of dying? If the sleeping brain is more active than when awake, who knows what they're up to. I can think of worse deaths than dying in my own dreams.
Heru
Jul 21 2006, 08:11 PM
How do you die in a dream. Isnt that like loosing to yourself in your own game. When I fall in my dreams I always fly.
War-Junkie
Jul 21 2006, 10:28 PM
i always fall in my dreams and i never die most of the time i wake up though but some i dont but that feeling u get when u jump and how it takes forever to hit the ground or while tring to run away of something you run so slow and you cant run faster.
i had a dream that i was climping onto an iceburg and i shark bit me it dident hurt but i felt a sensation and i was like hey your not supposed to get hurt in your dream but the dream changed
Nosferatu
Jul 22 2006, 01:38 AM
well one thing ive noticed, perhaps some others have as well and just neglected or didnt think to tell. ive had numerous dreams of falling, each one giving me the same "roller coaster" type feeling in my stomach. and i would awaken to find myself either on the floor, or nearly off of my bed. so what ive thought it was... is me in my sleep either being restless and falling of my bed or nearly coming to it, and my brain in the unconscious state just put some sort of false reality to it while dreaming.
The Predator
Jul 22 2006, 04:34 AM
well this is my dream from pass 2 nights. i fell and flew then died . and said i really didn't see this coming. then gah. hum..... thats all i can remeber. when i died it turned black and i saw colors like red blue and all them mixing. it was really cool. it's like food colring in water. you can't tell me thats cool.
mystery-man
Jul 22 2006, 05:55 PM
I've had a falling dream once. I think I'd jumped off something, started falling then flew all along I was naked for some reason. I was 17 at the time so maybe it was just hormones.
When I was 8 or 9 I used to dream of flying down my stairs weaing a superman type cape and my parents catching me. I think I must've watched and loved Superman too much.
I've never had the running dream though.
I have once or twice woken half out of bed and I often shoot up by waking suddenly, thats become a common thing. Other than that I just have weird non meaningful dreams. I once met Eddie, the Iron Maiden mascot
chaoszerg
Jul 22 2006, 09:13 PM
I too have had dreams like that i have had some when i fall i wake up and feel the sensation of falling. And i have had dreams where i have hit the ground and now........................................................It is my ghost typing this message from beyond the grave.
stephen84
Jul 22 2006, 09:24 PM
If its just a myth, then how do you explain all those kids that lived on Elm Street???
The Predator
Jul 23 2006, 01:34 AM
i hate waking up and feeling like im still falling
Krieghammer
Jul 24 2006, 08:58 PM
Someone said earlier that if you are falling,you can easily fly,this is true,as most of you know.and if you like falling,hell before hitting the ground,fly back up and fall again,heh,but i have hit the ground before(only because the fall was unexpected),weither i died or not i cannot tell,i just remember going cold(so perhaps i did),then i woke up.As for feeling pain,i never feel pain as pain in dreams,but as another not so good feeling that i simply cannot describe.
gryffin1
Aug 18 2006, 03:33 PM
[quote name='Krieghammer' date='Jul 24 2006, 08:58 PM' post='1281892']
As for feeling pain,i never feel pain as pain in dreams,but as another not so good feeling yeah i get that, its like you know u should be feeling something but you dnt. it's kind of a weird sickening feeling for me
Abecrombie
Aug 18 2006, 04:27 PM
I realy apprciate all the dreams that were shared in this thread. i feel the need to mention that at stanford they have sleep anaylisis and study abnormal sleep patterns as well as dreaming states and how it effects the person. many have night terrors, sleepwalk etc,. im mentioning this as perhaps its been studied as to when some die in there sleep from a heart attack,.. could it have been from a gdream of something having to do with death in the dream , what has been studied in night terrors is that there is a fear of something to the person in the wakeing life that is threatening them in some way . just thought they meant if falling in a dream and not waking up the person may have had a heartattack during the sleep in the dream the body goes through allot of adrenaline changes and heartbeat changes too ,. this i do know.
anyway thought id share that with all here .
does it mean anything ? who knows .
good day to everyone here
Abecrombie
Daniella2310
Aug 18 2006, 10:14 PM
I said this in another thread, but I'll repeat it here. When you dream of falling, it's mostly cause you are under a great deal of stress and/or pressure(from other people).In other words, it's because you are stressed out.
Iceman15
Aug 18 2006, 11:30 PM
It has to do with more of pychology than anything else, like how to interpret dreams into ur own lives
Amalgamut
Aug 21 2006, 09:41 PM
I've fallen many times in my dreams. Off cliffs...buildings etc..
I have even dreamt that I have died in my dreams. Yet I always awake in the morning.
I suppose the only way you could actually die from a dream is to have a nightmare and possibly having a heart attack. However, you would probably wake up from this whilst having a heart attack and would no longer be in your dream thus making it very difficult to physically die from your dream.
ValpoSeeker
Aug 23 2006, 05:22 AM
I was thinking about this and as AI said short of a Many Worlds universe you dont die after a fall in a dream, but if the brain is the last to shut down after death it would seem to me that every person who dies in there sleep would experience one last dream before lights out. Maybe its the unending dream where your lifeforce returns to the source and you dont really remember you were human. Really though if you die in your sleep I think that there would definitely be enough brain time left for a last dream.
ai_guardian
Aug 23 2006, 12:29 PM
QUOTE(Valposeeker)
but if the brain is the last to shut down after death it would seem to me that every person who dies in there sleep would experience one last dream before lights out.
Very likely. Probably something like NDE except it would be RDE (Real Death Experience

) but no one can tell us about it for obvious reasons.
Bella-Angelique
Aug 23 2006, 12:57 PM
I think it is possible that Jack London made this particular myth a common and popular belief.
source
BigBen6
Aug 24 2006, 07:44 AM
Siegmund Freud's "Dream Interpretations" explain that if we have a dream about falling the most logical explanation is because our subconscious is sending our conscious mind a message that we are too close to the edge of the bed. Usually our dreams are simply subconscious ways that our brain stimulates our bodies while we sleep and are usually in some way directed towards sex in order to stimulate reproductive organs. Nightmares are usually just our bodies trying to send us a message that it is time to wake up or change position. So if you have a dream about drowning it is usually because your face is in an uncomfortable position against your pillow so your brain uses that suffocating sensation to make your nightmare more realistic but only so you will wake up or change position instead of just smothering yourself in your sleep. Since most people are afraid of heights falling to your death is a common and easy way for your brain to scare you into WAKING UP!!!!! So I doubt you will actually die in reality from a result of your nightmare, but nine times out of ten that fear of death will make sure you don't find out.lol
Briggles
Aug 24 2006, 08:38 AM
I agree, i don't think a dream can kill you. But there was that woman a few years ago who was hypnotized for a stage show. The hypnotist/magician told her that she had 10,000 volts going through her and she died as a result. So could it not be possible that if the brain thinks your dead or have died, you do?? Maybe a one off particularly realistic dream could kill you?

on the other hand i guess it could have been shock of believing she 10.000 volts flowing through her that killed the woman?!?
jakesteele
Sep 2 2006, 08:48 PM
[size=1]This myth is kind of like the myth of when a person dies his/her life flashes before before them.
I once crashed on a hang glider and was severely injured. Ever since then I have periodic dreams of crashing in airplanes where the bottom of the plane is missing and I can see the ground coming up fast; usually a jungle type setting. I used to jerk awake before I hit the ground but then I got into lucid dreaming and I was able to force myself to experience the crash. I would always get banged up pretty badly and feel the pain in the LD. I would wake up with psyosomatic pains that were every bit as painful as those in the dreams. It would take 5-10 minutes for the pain to go away depending on how long it took me to fully wake up.
These experiences were very interesting but also very intense. They would drain me on energy; or, as the Teachings of Don Juan would say: They drained me of my Personal Power.
kobie
Sep 6 2006, 12:44 PM
QUOTE(Abecrombie @ Jul 18 2006, 08:10 AM) [snapback]1274061[/snapback]
When one sleeps at night or daytime and is dreaming they are falling, usualy its said they are falling to there death. This is not true . Why? . I myself fell off a tall building and was falling but I landed . I didnt survive in my dream but I awoke much later to find Im very much alive in reality so In my opinion it is a false theory . Has this happened to anyone else? Usualy its said that if falling in a dream is falling to your death , you wake up before hitting the ground and if you dont wake up you die in your sleep. not in my dream.
Abecrombie
yes your right i too have fell to my death...smashed every bone in my body and felt the pain when i woke be i did not die....but i could imagine someone of old aged having a heartattack on the impact or falling....thats fesible.
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