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EctoPunk
Has anyone heard of Time Slips? I have a friend, or I should say a group member of my Paranormal Group claims he's encountered what he calls a time slip. I have heard of these this happening to others but wasn't certain if it was officially called something by scientists or Researchers that may have discovered such a thing.

Basically what happened, is every now and then he feels like he'll be at point A and end up at point Z in a matter of seconds without batting an eyelash. It doesn't matter if he's standing, or driving. It happened to him again the other day while driving. Where he felt for a very brief moment he jumped into a time slip whereas how did he get to that point without realizing it?

If no one has discovered this phenomena, I'd like to be the first to call it a time slip ... original.gif

What do yo guys think?

Matt ~
Lint
QUOTE(EctoPunk @ Jul 19 2006, 06:41 PM) [snapback]1276367[/snapback]

Has anyone heard of Time Slips? I have a friend, or I should say a group member of my Paranormal Group claims he's encountered what he calls a time slip. I have heard of these this happening to others but wasn't certain if it was officially called something by scientists or Researchers that may have discovered such a thing.

Basically what happened, is every now and then he feels like he'll be at point A and end up at point Z in a matter of seconds without batting an eyelash. It doesn't matter if he's standing, or driving. It happened to him again the other day while driving. Where he felt for a very brief moment he jumped into a time slip whereas how did he get to that point without realizing it?

If no one has discovered this phenomena, I'd like to be the first to call it a time slip ... original.gif

What do yo guys think?

Matt ~


No more drugs for this man. no.gif
Lady_Anvilabeel
Yes the term does exist already and it's a known thing. I think time slips are very interesting.
SQ
QUOTE(Lint @ Jul 19 2006, 10:53 PM) [snapback]1276379[/snapback]

No more drugs for this man. no.gif



You're not funny.
EctoPunk
It's all good... I didn't take offense to it.

I'm glad it's already a discovered phenomena, at least he's not toally crazy then...

coldethyl
It's just a jump to the left...
And then a step to the right...

Oh wait that's the time warp...nevermind...

thumbsup.gif
Acenaspheru
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jul 19 2006, 08:36 PM) [snapback]1276542[/snapback]

It's just a jump to the left...
And then a step to the right...

Oh wait that's the time warp...nevermind...

thumbsup.gif


XD now that i must find the sound track...
novaceleste
There are a few threads about this topic already. Very intresting though. I have read about time slips alot. There is so much that we don't know..........
Lonecat
QUOTE(novaceleste @ Jul 20 2006, 03:25 AM) [snapback]1276631[/snapback]

There are a few threads about this topic already. Very intresting though. I have read about time slips alot. There is so much that we don't know..........


Hello everybody,
After a troublesome search but with a the help of my online friends, I managed to find this item which I posted on May the 18th of this year (on page two of my list of postings). As it is relevant to this thread, I post it again. Lonecat thumbsup.gif


I have had only one experience of what I always refer to as a possible "time-slip" though I "missed" only thirty minutes. This was back in about 1952/3 when I was at art school. About five minutes after an important class had begun, I had to apologise to the teacher and to the many other students in the room that I just HAD to go to the toilets cum washroom (loo/ bathroom) which was situated at the far end of the long, narrow locker room, which really was not a room at all but a corridor leading to the washroom. The door of the class-room was only about five paces from the entrance to this corridor over which hung a large "post office" style clock in its wooden casing and brass trimmings and on which the hours were marked in roman numerals. I always loved this clock as I do all old time-pieces and always looked at it to check the time every time I passed it. On this occasion I saw it was twelve noon. I went straight to the washrooms and spent at most three minutes there and then hurried back to class again. On the way back along the locker-room I looked up at the clock again out of habit and saw that it was just past twelve thirty. I thought that was curious as I hadn't dawdled in the washrooms. When I got back into class, the teacher looked at me very sternly indeed and several of the students demanded to know where I had "been all this time". I said I just went to toilet; sorry! My school mates took this as some kind of joke and made remarks about "how long some people take to do some things". The teacher called them to order and we finished the class...the final twenty five minutes of it, at least. I have never been able to explain that "loss" of half an hour. At times I have even considered asking for a regression under hypnosis in order to find out what happened. LONECAT cool.gif
hazzard
Sound like your friend has narcolepsy.

A classic symptom of narcolepsy is something called Automatic behavior.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcolepsy#Sy...s_of_narcolepsy

QUOTE
Automatic behavior occurs when a person continues to function (talking,walking putting things away, etc.) during sleep episodes, but awakens with no memory of performing such activities. It is estimated that up to 40 percent of people with narcolepsy experience automatic behavior during sleep episodes.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(.Soliqioux. @ Jul 19 2006, 06:45 PM) [snapback]1276428[/snapback]

You're not funny.

Oh, I thought it was pretty funny. grin2.gif
hetrodoxly
The slip is probably in your mind and not time. if you drive home along the same route day in day out, you can go into auto pilot, when you come out of it your looking for a familiar land mark because you have no recollection of the last 10 miles or more. You can also have a fit or seizure, it can happen to you once in your life or every few weeks or every few years, it doesn't have to involve passing out or convolutions.
backhandgrip
I have these'time slips' all the time when I'm driving. I truly wonder how I could have gotten where I am when not there mentally. I think they are dangerous.

Also, I think there is some thought these 'time slips'may be explained in Physics, however, we are not there yet. Einstein tried and tried to solve such mysteries of the universe but was not able to in his lifetime.Perhaps in the future.
SQ
QUOTE(backhandgrip @ Jul 20 2006, 07:23 PM) [snapback]1277394[/snapback]

I have these'time slips' all the time when I'm driving. I truly wonder how I could have gotten where I am when not there mentally. I think they are dangerous.

Also, I think there is some thought these 'time slips'may be explained in Physics, however, we are not there yet. Einstein tried and tried to solve such mysteries of the universe but was not able to in his lifetime.Perhaps in the future.



I think it's interesting how these mostly happen while driving. Why do you guys think that is? Any theories? I don't think I've ever had a timeslip, then again I'm still confused as to how I would know I've had one hmm.gif
backhandgrip
I'll tell you what I think . I think the part of the brain that controls orientation in space, over time, becomes very well developed. And for that reson it can go on 'autopilot' so to speak, and other pats of the brain can resume activity. That's why we could be thinking about what we would like to have for dinner while we........... .go on driving. Makes me wonder if pilots who fly a specific route like L.A. to N.Y.C. have these time slips too.

Scary.
Irish
QUOTE(backhandgrip @ Jul 20 2006, 01:40 PM) [snapback]1277410[/snapback]

I'll tell you what I think . I think the part of the brain that controls orientation in space, over time, becomes very well developed. And for that reson it can go on 'autopilot' so to speak, and other pats of the brain can resume activity. That's why we could be thinking about what we would like to have for dinner while we........... .go on driving. Makes me wonder if pilots who fly a specific route like L.A. to N.Y.C. have these time slips too.

Scary.

I think that anything happening out of the ordinary would snap you out of it in a hurry.
backhandgrip
I hope so!!!!!!!!!
Acenaspheru
I don't know if you can consider this a time slip, but when I was in middle school, a friend and I went down to the bridge over a creek that my grandmother lived by. We were onlygone what felt like about thirty minutes, in which time several cars passed us. When we got back to my grandmothers house she was really poed, accusing us of lyeing about where we were and saying we'd been gone over two hours. I can understand losing track of time, however, this is where it gets weird. We never left that spot, but my grandmother says she pulled her car up right next to where we were, got out and started yelling for us. even if we happened to have been under the bridge at the time, we'd have heard her or seen the car. She swears that she was there for at least fifteen minutes and if as she says, she got out of the car, she'd have seen us quite clearly. neither of us left that spot, nor did we see or hear anything.
Lady_Anvilabeel
I'm sure there is a kind of timeslip that can occur when on 'autopilot' perhaps connected to day dreaming...

But in general timeslips are just as much experienced by more than one person, ie a group of people together all experiencing the same thing. Perhaps there is different kinds of timeslip.
Raptor
It sounds like a neurological disorder to me.

That, or the chronotons are missing. ohmy.gif
hetrodoxly
QUOTE(Acenaspheru @ Jul 21 2006, 12:39 AM) [snapback]1277644[/snapback]

I don't know if you can consider this a time slip, but when I was in middle school, a friend and I went down to the bridge over a creek that my grandmother lived by. We were onlygone what felt like about thirty minutes, in which time several cars passed us. When we got back to my grandmothers house she was really poed, accusing us of lyeing about where we were and saying we'd been gone over two hours. I can understand losing track of time, however, this is where it gets weird. We never left that spot, but my grandmother says she pulled her car up right next to where we were, got out and started yelling for us. even if we happened to have been under the bridge at the time, we'd have heard her or seen the car. She swears that she was there for at least fifteen minutes and if as she says, she got out of the car, she'd have seen us quite clearly. neither of us left that spot, nor did we see or hear anything.

Your grandmother didn't believe you'd been down to the bridge, so she tells you she's been down there and called your name to catch you out. grin2.gif

DEBUNKER
QUOTE(hazzard @ Jul 20 2006, 04:40 PM) [snapback]1277204[/snapback]

Sound like your friend has narcolepsy.

A classic symptom of narcolepsy is something called Automatic behavior.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcolepsy#Sy...s_of_narcolepsy



I think this is what I suffer from every morning . grin2.gif
Acenaspheru
QUOTE(hetrodoxly @ Jul 21 2006, 02:26 AM) [snapback]1277981[/snapback]

Your grandmother didn't believe you'd been down to the bridge, so she tells you she's been down there and called your name to catch you out. grin2.gif


XD i suppose so. sure as hell baffled us though.

ph34r.gif could be kinda like the time i swore up and down i'd found a human foot bone in a boot. turned out to be an annoyingly similar shaped stick that had gotten caught in the boot that someone had dumped...
Lady_Anvilabeel
QUOTE(Acenaspheru @ Jul 21 2006, 12:39 PM) [snapback]1278087[/snapback]

XD i suppose so. sure as hell baffled us though.

ph34r.gif could be kinda like the time i swore up and down i'd found a human foot bone in a boot. turned out to be an annoyingly similar shaped stick that had gotten caught in the boot that someone had dumped...



ohmy.gif

laugh.gif


I can't see the connection between narcolepsy and timeslips ( in the paranormal sense) Maybe you mean more in the sense of losing time as levels of consciouness differ between being awake and having sleep attacks?

Timeslips that I have read and heard about are very much experienced in a physical woken state that more than one person can experience. Often they are not realised untill later on or untill something appears out of place, perhaps in alot cases never even realised huh.gif

Whilst travelling does seem to be a common theme, it's also common with people who have been out exploring or hill walking, biking, horseriding, sailing..umm the kind of activities that do require immediate attention and brain processing! So it doesn't just happen in so called 'auto pilot' states....




coldethyl
What about fugues? Fugue states my explain some of these things?
Raptor
Haha, "Fugues".
coldethyl
QUOTE(Raptor X7 @ Jul 21 2006, 09:19 AM) [snapback]1278267[/snapback]

Haha, "Fugues".


What's wrong with fugues? huh.gif
~Onyx~
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jul 21 2006, 10:31 AM) [snapback]1278278[/snapback]

What's wrong with fugues? huh.gif


I had never heard the term used before reading your post. Is that an ACTUAL documented occurance? I'm going to have to look into that a bit more in-depth.....thanks for the info.
coldethyl
QUOTE(Onyxdk @ Jul 21 2006, 11:34 AM) [snapback]1278424[/snapback]

I had never heard the term used before reading your post. Is that an ACTUAL documented occurance? I'm going to have to look into that a bit more in-depth.....thanks for the info.


Yes it is. yes.gif I only know about them because Dean Koontz talks about them in his books and I looked them up to see if they were real. w00t.gif They are.
~Onyx~
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jul 21 2006, 05:14 PM) [snapback]1278777[/snapback]

Yes it is. yes.gif I only know about them because Dean Koontz talks about them in his books and I looked them up to see if they were real. w00t.gif They are.


I've read a few of Koontz's works and don't recall it mentioned(it's been some time since I've read any Koontz), but I do tend to have a....ahem*coughs*..."selective" memory. Do you happen to remember an old 70's-80's movie called "Looker"? It was based on a slightly similar premise of "loss of time".
Lady Warrior Ravynwynn
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jul 21 2006, 02:14 PM) [snapback]1278777[/snapback]

Yes it is. yes.gif I only know about them because Dean Koontz talks about them in his books and I looked them up to see if they were real. w00t.gif They are.


Oh, yeah! Koontz is awesome. Did you read "Life Expectancy"? I lovedit! His writing that is already awesome, gets better with every book!
Back to subject:
I lose time, while driving, alot. I just chalk it up to my extremely intelligent, creative mind being in deep, pondering thought on the affairs of the world...while I drive in some kind of auto-pilot mode...or more realistically, I a just zoned out again, and my short-term memory is not working right like usual. wacko.gif
...LOVED the "time warp" remark, coldethyl. Almost fell off my chair! LOL! grin2.gif
phenomenon
Time slip's eh? Like some wormhole from one place to the next?

Impossible!
Mysterious Molecules
It's nothing to do with time slipping or any disease. It's something that happens with all people when we navigate through patterns we've already got memorised.
The brain goes into Thetawaves which gives the human a sense of dreaming while subconsiously controlling it's envinronment.
If you think it's dangerous, you are very wrong. When we're on autopilot we're much more in control than if our brain was still adapting to the pattern.

Take excellent musicians as a good example of autopiloting. They repeat patterns over and over again untill they can do it without "thinking" about what they're doing and that's when they do it perfectly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theta_wave
coldethyl
QUOTE(Onyxdk @ Jul 21 2006, 04:26 PM) [snapback]1278794[/snapback]

I've read a few of Koontz's works and don't recall it mentioned(it's been some time since I've read any Koontz), but I do tend to have a....ahem*coughs*..."selective" memory. Do you happen to remember an old 70's-80's movie called "Looker"? It was based on a slightly similar premise of "loss of time".


I remember the name of the movie Looker, but I don't remember the premise. The two Koontz books I can think of that mention fugues are Strangers and Mr. Murder, I believe. There may have been other ones as well.

QUOTE(Lady Warrior Ravynwynn @ Jul 21 2006, 10:37 PM) [snapback]1279082[/snapback]

Oh, yeah! Koontz is awesome. Did you read "Life Expectancy"? I lovedit! His writing that is already awesome, gets better with every book!
...LOVED the "time warp" remark, coldethyl. Almost fell off my chair! LOL! grin2.gif


I loved that book! Koontz rocks! Heh, heh, Time Warp is awesome. thumbsup.gif

QUOTE(Ykaedhi Aewee @ Jul 22 2006, 11:00 AM) [snapback]1279436[/snapback]

It's nothing to do with time slipping or any disease. It's something that happens with all people when we navigate through patterns we've already got memorised.
The brain goes into Thetawaves which gives the human a sense of dreaming while subconsiously controlling it's envinronment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theta_wave


Yes, I agree totally. It is like auto-pilot. I know exactly what you're talking about. I do it every morning. happy.gif
~Onyx~
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jul 22 2006, 12:22 PM) [snapback]1279457[/snapback]

I remember the name of the movie Looker, but I don't remember the premise. The two Koontz books I can think of that mention fugues are Strangers and Mr. Murder, I believe. There may have been other ones as well.
I loved that book! Koontz rocks! Heh, heh, Time Warp is awesome. thumbsup.gif
Yes, I agree totally. It is like auto-pilot. I know exactly what you're talking about. I do it every morning. happy.gif


Lord knows that I fall in to that "trance" almost 5 days a week, lol.....or at least until I get my bucket-o-coffee... w00t.gif
~Onyx~
QUOTE(coldethyl @ Jul 22 2006, 12:22 PM) [snapback]1279457[/snapback]
The two Koontz books I can think of that mention fugues are Strangers and Mr. Murder, I believe. There may have been other ones as well.


I remember reading Cold Fire, Lightning, & Watchers(which I liked emensely).....I'll have to check-out Strangers & Mr. Murder in relation to this "fuges" phenomenon.
Lady Warrior Ravynwynn
QUOTE(Ykaedhi Aewee @ Jul 22 2006, 09:00 AM) [snapback]1279436[/snapback]

It's nothing to do with time slipping or any disease. It's something that happens with all people when we navigate through patterns we've already got memorised.
The brain goes into Thetawaves which gives the human a sense of dreaming while subconsiously controlling it's envinronment.
If you think it's dangerous, you are very wrong. When we're on autopilot we're much more in control than if our brain was still adapting to the pattern.

Take excellent musicians as a good example of autopiloting. They repeat patterns over and over again untill they can do it without "thinking" about what they're doing and that's when they do it perfectly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theta_wave


Ahh. Thanks for this info. It makes sense.

Those are all good Koontz books named, and I really loved "Lightening".

Nice, and interesting site, Phenomenon.

and last, but not least...thank God for coffee!
Lonecat
QUOTE(backhandgrip @ Jul 20 2006, 07:40 PM) [snapback]1277410[/snapback]

I'll tell you what I think . I think the part of the brain that controls orientation in space, over time, becomes very well developed. And for that reson it can go on 'autopilot' so to speak, and other pats of the brain can resume activity. That's why we could be thinking about what we would like to have for dinner while we........... .go on driving. Makes me wonder if pilots who fly a specific route like L.A. to N.Y.C. have these time slips too.

Scary.


It seems to me that some people either do not pay attention to all the posts on a given subject, in this case "Time Slips" or they don't even READ them all. no.gif All these glib "explanations" about people sleep-walking or doing things "without thinking" totally disregard third party reactions as in my own account of my "missing thirty minutes". It was I who went to the bath room and remembered everything I did there but the clock in the hall registered the passage of half an hour and the class I had left were complaining about my having been away for half an hour whereas from my point of view I had been away only three minutes or so. mad.gif Lonecat
coldethyl
QUOTE(Lonecat @ Jul 23 2006, 04:46 AM) [snapback]1280270[/snapback]

It seems to me that some people either do not pay attention to all the posts on a given subject, in this case "Time Slips" or they don't even READ them all. no.gif


I do but over a period of days. I don't go back and read every post each day and when a subject takes off in a different direction, sometimes I get sidetracked into that direction.
Lady Warrior Ravynwynn
QUOTE(Lonecat @ Jul 23 2006, 02:46 AM) [snapback]1280270[/snapback]

It seems to me that some people either do not pay attention to all the posts on a given subject, in this case "Time Slips" or they don't even READ them all. no.gif All these glib "explanations" about people sleep-walking or doing things "without thinking" totally disregard third party reactions as in my own account of my "missing thirty minutes". It was I who went to the bath room and remembered everything I did there but the clock in the hall registered the passage of half an hour and the class I had left were complaining about my having been away for half an hour whereas from my point of view I had been away only three minutes or so. mad.gif Lonecat


You are quite right of course. I am so sorry. You and your feelings are very important. We get too caught up in side-tracked topics sometimes. And then, sometimes when I touch on a subject that has been very difficult to deal with, I tend to dance all around it, get silly...avoid. But the truth is that I have to be real and a little vulnerable, and answer you with a possibility of what may have happened by way of my own experience. I am not saying that things happened to you. I am saying that the human brain is capable of many extreme ways of helping us cope with what happens around us. If something happens to us, that is too much for us to handle or cope with, our brain can put it away, to process later, at a "safer" time, or when we are emotionally able to deal with it. This happened to me, because for most of my childhood and teenage years, I was terrorized and abused by a group of people that were friends of my stepfather. I had been told repeatedy, and shown, what happened to people who talked about these people. They did not mess around or take chances of being found out. I did not want my mother, or brother or sister to be killed, so I had to look like I was ok, and function in a way that no one would suspect anything. My brain filed away not only trauma that happened, but how I felt while trauma was happening, because I would have suffered a psychotic break, or died of shock from the terrible reality of what I was living through with these people. My brain creatively kept me alive, and functioning as if everything was fine. I remembered everything else, in my life in detail, because I had no reason to forget the everyday stuff. Later, as an adult this all began to break down. I didn't need it anymore. I would have pieces of time where I thought everything was normal, but other people said I was "gone" for a while. Or, I would be triggered into a sudden memory by seeing something that my brain related to former trauma, and have a flashback. Eventually, I learned that I wasn't crazy, and learned new coping skills, while healing my past emotions. I also seem to have gained some psychic sensitivities and have become Empath, and other things that I am still learning about, from having accessed alot of my brain, and the trauma of going through this healing process.
The brain is capable of SO much that we do and don't understand. Maybe what happened during your missing 30 minutes was supernatural, because I know there is alot that exists that we can't always prove with science. Maybe your brain was helping you cope with something. Maybe you were just exhausted, or half asleep. Wait, don't get mad. My point is that you may not remember now, but if it is important you eventually will remember. The more you try, the harder it will be to remember. I would not be too worried, unless this kind of loss of time keeps happening. Or, if you find yourself suddenly in an unsafe situation, not remembering how you got there. The wierdness of it may be nagging at you now, but unless it is really interrupting, and intruding into your life in a major way, it might be ok to not let it bother you so much- to let go.
If you can't let it go, because it still feels really big and important, you need to yhink about seeing a hypnoptherapist who can safely guide you to remember that period of time, and help you cope.
I hope I have given you some of what you are searching for, and maybe some comfort that you are not alone. wink2.gif

Lonecat
QUOTE(Lady Warrior Ravynwynn @ Jul 24 2006, 12:52 AM) [snapback]1280923[/snapback]

You are quite right of course. I am so sorry. You and your feelings are very important. We get too caught up in side-tracked topics sometimes. And then, sometimes when I touch on a subject that has been very difficult to deal with, I tend to dance all around it, get silly...avoid. But the truth is that I have to be real and a little vulnerable, and answer you with a possibility of what may have happened by way of my own experience. I am not saying that things happened to you. I am saying that the human brain is capable of many extreme ways of helping us cope with what happens around us. If something happens to us, that is too much for us to handle or cope with, our brain can put it away, to process later, at a "safer" time, or when we are emotionally able to deal with it. This happened to me, because for most of my childhood and teenage years, I was terrorized and abused by a group of people that were friends of my stepfather. I had been told repeatedy, and shown, what happened to people who talked about these people. They did not mess around or take chances of being found out. I did not want my mother, or brother or sister to be killed, so I had to look like I was ok, and function in a way that no one would suspect anything. My brain filed away not only trauma that happened, but how I felt while trauma was happening, because I would have suffered a psychotic break, or died of shock from the terrible reality of what I was living through with these people. My brain creatively kept me alive, and functioning as if everything was fine. I remembered everything else, in my life in detail, because I had no reason to forget the everyday stuff. Later, as an adult this all began to break down. I didn't need it anymore. I would have pieces of time where I thought everything was normal, but other people said I was "gone" for a while. Or, I would be triggered into a sudden memory by seeing something that my brain related to former trauma, and have a flashback. Eventually, I learned that I wasn't crazy, and learned new coping skills, while healing my past emotions. I also seem to have gained some psychic sensitivities and have become Empath, and other things that I am still learning about, from having accessed alot of my brain, and the trauma of going through this healing process.
The brain is capable of SO much that we do and don't understand. Maybe what happened during your missing 30 minutes was supernatural, because I know there is alot that exists that we can't always prove with science. Maybe your brain was helping you cope with something. Maybe you were just exhausted, or half asleep. Wait, don't get mad. My point is that you may not remember now, but if it is important you eventually will remember. The more you try, the harder it will be to remember. I would not be too worried, unless this kind of loss of time keeps happening. Or, if you find yourself suddenly in an unsafe situation, not remembering how you got there. The wierdness of it may be nagging at you now, but unless it is really interrupting, and intruding into your life in a major way, it might be ok to not let it bother you so much- to let go.
If you can't let it go, because it still feels really big and important, you need to yhink about seeing a hypnoptherapist who can safely guide you to remember that period of time, and help you cope.
I hope I have given you some of what you are searching for, and maybe some comfort that you are not alone. wink2.gif



Thanks for taking the trouble to respond to my last posting, Lady W. I am so sorry you had to suffer those awful experiences when you were younger. In fact I did go to a hypnotherapist and I explained to her the sort of things I wanted to regress to. However, after the first session in which I "died" of what appeared to be the plague in some mediaeval, eastern european country, I awoke feeling freezing cold and had a deep depression that lasted for about a fortnight. I told the lady I thought it better to wait a while before having more sessions and have not been back since. Lonecat no.gif hmm.gif







Lady Warrior Ravynwynn
QUOTE(Lonecat @ Jul 30 2006, 10:52 AM) [snapback]1288468[/snapback]

Thanks for taking the trouble to respond to my last posting, Lady W. I am so sorry you had to suffer those awful experiences when you were younger. In fact I did go to a hypnotherapist and I explained to her the sort of things I wanted to regress to. However, after the first session in which I "died" of what appeared to be the plague in some mediaeval, eastern european country, I awoke feeling freezing cold and had a deep depression that lasted for about a fortnight. I told the lady I thought it better to wait a while before having more sessions and have not been back since. Lonecat no.gif hmm.gif


Sweet Lonecat, thanks for what you said. I want you to know, though, that I really didn't post for people to feel sorry for me. I just hated the way I felt when I didn't know what was happening. I was terrified that I was going crazy. (There is alot to be said for Karate, Self Defense, and Hand-To-Hand Combat classes and training to get one's empowerment back!!)
I am ok now, and my confidence is good. So if I can help someone else to not feel alone, or crazy, but at least some comfort as they go along this road that some of us who post on here do, then that is something good that I can turn that rotten crap that happened to me into. Those of us that it seems to be our life path to experience and see some of the paranormal and supernatural wierdness, so often misunderstood, and feared need to be heard by others that have similar experiences and can understand how it feels.
When I read your above posting, I broke out is goosebumps. How awful. Maybe that session was what you needed? It would take a long time to process an experience like that. YIkes! Take care, and be good to yourself. yes.gif

LIGHT PAT
Time slips are very real and sometimes occur where there is a demonic haunt ,but not always.
Lady Warrior Ravynwynn
QUOTE(LIGHT PAT @ Aug 5 2006, 01:49 PM) [snapback]1296160[/snapback]

Time slips are very real and sometimes occur where there is a demonic haunt ,but not always.

This is a completely new one to me. Please tell me about this.

Emcee
I wouldn't mind "suffering" a time-slip at work.
LIGHT L.I. Paranormal
I know I have experienced a Time Slip one time or two in my lifetime. There are many explanations to Time Slips such as lack of sleep, not paying attention ect; however scientists are exploring the ideas of the amount of Magnetism in our atmosphere which can play a huge part on our brains. Scientists have acknowldged it already so I'm sure there are other scientific theories out there. I don't think its a worm hole or black hole theory.

boorite
Fugues are very real and very interesting and baffling, but none of the episodes described here resembles a fugue. I think fugues are probably best understood in conventional psychological and neurological terms.

Same goes for what are called "tunnel vision" episodes, where a person doesn't remember driving, but the time-distance numbers are exactly as expected. Several people here describe such events. They're not what I would call "time slips," just a normal glitch in the system that forms long-term memories. There's no "missing time," just missing memory.

Then there's the sleepwalking-like behavior of narcoleptics. This is a well-understood part of a well-known disorder. I wouldn't call it a time slip.

Another poster describes a sort of missing time as a result of a dissociative response to trauma. I would like to kill the persons responsible for doing this to anyone. Anyway, dissociation is a phenomenon understood in convenional psychological terms.

All four classes of experience are purely subjective and individualized. A bystander accompanying the experient would not observe any "missing time" or experience any memory lapse at all. He, unlike the experient, would remember the experient and himself doing things over the "missing" time period. Therefore, these are slips not in time but in memory.

Harder to explain are experiences like the ones described here of the art school washroom and, even more, grandma's house. If the people involved in those episodes were telling the truth-- and why on Earth would they make it all up?-- then there is truly missing time, and in the case of the bridge by grandma's house, missing space as well, if it is true that the grandmother actually went there.

These experiences are just like many described in the paranormal literature, from ghost stories to UFO abduction experiences to Bermuda Triangle tales to faery encounters. Sometimes it is not just missing time. Sometimes people enter and spend time in "places" that do not exist in the frame of reference from which they departed and into which they returned. Sometimes these are places that are known to have existed in the past, and sometimes not.

Such reports are very numerous and cannot be explained away in terms of sleepwalking, tunnel vision, or known psychological disorders.

A recent book that discusses a kind of spacetime slip in the context of "Bermuda Triangle" events is The Fog by Bruce Gernon. He is confident that he and others have encountered an unacknowledged, very poorly-explained physical phenomenon, and here he sets out to describe and tentatively explain it. I'd call it an important book.

To say that spacetime "slips" are "impossible" implies that we know enough about the physical universe to list everything that is and isn't possible. I don't think we do. I think reality is in fact very dimly understood at this point. I think all we have is a small window on it at present. I suppose that is enough for some people to reject the existence of anything not in the view of that window, but I'm still open to information about that portion of reality we don't yet understand.
Lady_Anvilabeel
Good post boorite. Time slips in the paranormal sense that I have heard/read about can be experienced by groups of people as well as individuals and often only becomes realised afterwards. The strange thing is they are most likely to occur in new places, whilst out exploring, or getting lost. Most accounts come to light when a person claims they expereinced a place/enviroment/sourrounding that they can't ever find again. Perhaps more people have experienced time slips than we know about.... it's only those that actually seek to revisit places that find that out and I suppose not everyone does revisit every place they go/explore/get lost in.
LIGHT L.I. Paranormal
Its still an interesting phenomena, it gets deep in explanation...

Its like similar to De Je Vu

Only opposite, lol...

NoahJaymes
I experience this a lot, although I know the reasoning behind mine. Or so I think. I been on medication for a few months now, Zoloft and Klonopin to be exact, I never experienced this before the meds, now that Im off of them i tend to find myself missing parts of something without realizing. For instance, and this always happens in this location. I would be in walmart, and all a sudden my mind goes blank and I end up 5 feet ahead of where I was not realizing. Its not as bad as most think, its like my mind skips. Pretty scary actually, im not sure what to do or what to say to anyone. I dont want anyone to think im crazy...TOO LATE..lol, none the less, I think "Time slips" in most cases are medically associated.

Also, i think it has something to do with stress, sleep deprivation, which u can categorize with being medically associated.
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