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AtlantisRises
QUOTE(Vernes @ Nov 2 2006, 07:10 AM) [snapback]1413420[/snapback]

Because the're fooling us. We are dumb monkies.



Yes you are
Mr Walker
"It seems to me that given the hurdles to overcome in technology,
a stargate will precede warp drive. Just my opinion."

Based on a life long addiction to science fiction, I think that a warp drive is a form of star gate. It warps the fabric of time and space, allowing you to pass through the "folds' of space and come out into "real' space, having travelled a very"short" distance from where you left it, yet having covered a much greater distance betwenn the entry point and exit point in real space. In between the folds you are in 'hyper' space or something by a different name but applied to the same concept. The worm hole is a bigger and more permanent version of the warp drive, so it would seem likely that the warp drive would be invented first (unless you see one as a miniaturisation of the other, in which case the bigger/bulkier version (stargate) may come first, even though it requires a much greater energy input. Oh and i am sure they are both around, but unfortunately humans don't have either the patents or the operating instructions for them just yet.
REBEL
QUOTE(AtlantisRises @ Nov 2 2006, 11:05 AM) [snapback]1413760[/snapback]

Yes you are

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You're killing me A R!!!
Strange F8
QUOTE(Mr Walker @ Nov 1 2006, 06:15 PM) [snapback]1413819[/snapback]

"It seems to me that given the hurdles to overcome in technology,
a stargate will precede warp drive. Just my opinion."

Based on a life long addiction to science fiction, I think that a warp drive is a form of star gate. It warps the fabric of time and space, allowing you to pass through the "folds' of space and come out into "real' space, having travelled a very"short" distance from where you left it, yet having covered a much greater distance betwenn the entry point and exit point in real space. In between the folds you are in 'hyper' space or something by a different name but applied to the same concept. The worm hole is a bigger and more permanent version of the warp drive, so it would seem likely that the warp drive would be invented first (unless you see one as a miniaturisation of the other, in which case the bigger/bulkier version (stargate) may come first, even though it requires a much greater energy input. Oh and i am sure they are both around, but unfortunately humans don't have either the patents or the operating instructions for them just yet.


I think the warp drive concept of Miguel Alcubierre is a bit different from a wormhole
whereas its a matter of propulsion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive
but a wormhole is thought to be more of a shortcut through space. Alcubierre is currently working on the warp drive concept, although I've not heard of anyone working on a stargate per se, the work in colliders may have begun to produce black holes - here's a link to an article (one of a few I've come across) http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,315...3312730,00.html
Who knows where all this is leading, but I think its fascinating to think that things that were only once only the realm of scifi are beginning to take place. What a time to be alive!
REBEL
QUOTE(AtlantisRises @ Nov 2 2006, 07:03 AM) [snapback]1413409[/snapback]

How did you get that from MVxKs post.

Just because someone says one day "The moon could be hollow" doesn't make it a theory. A theory requires a lot of work and study before it can be called such.
It is impossible for the moon, or anyother large object to be hollow. Gravity quite simply would not allow it. There is no way it could naturally occur. This is one reason why Hollow Earth theories are considered so ridiculous...

And to assume it is an Alien Space craft is equally strange...

The moon has been around for a very long time. It can at least be proved to have been there in all recorded history. And it is a little silly to claim it wasn't there before that.

So if ET did decide to build a giant space ship/satellite and disguise it as a moon, Why would they. And why haven't they done anything with it.

I agree AR,the hollow moon/earth theory sounds like a 'hollow theory', thats if we're talking ''basket ball hollow'' ofcourse, which some of the posts indicate.
Is it not possible though that there may exist massive naturally formed underground caverns, tunnels etc, large enough to house huge cities(eg only), that could extend around the interior just below crust in certain areas around the earth.
Homerduff
Can't we make scans of the inside of the planet already with our technology ?
REBEL
Not sure about scanning 'kms' underground H, but some of the bigger mining companies have hi tec equipment can scan depths of several hundred feet, don't quote me on that figure though.
Eternal Soul
Could it be possible there are certain things deep underground they might not want us to know about.
AtlantisRises
QUOTE(ICU24/7 @ Nov 6 2006, 07:09 PM) [snapback]1416569[/snapback]

Could it be possible there are certain things deep underground they might not want us to know about.



Who are they?

Or is it just an arbitrary THEY?

A little bit more precision might be nice
REBEL
T.H.E.Y = The Hierachy Enslaving You. grin2.gif




I've got a question. If the hollow earth theory is total and complete bulls***, then why was Hitler and the Nazi hierachy obsessed to say the least, with finding the entrance to this so called hollow earth if it did'nt exist, which has been claimed to be around the North Pole region.
It was also said they used ancient maps to locate it.


edit: Just for the record, word is the 4th Indiana Jones is going to be about hollow earth.
And the villans are,........you guessed it the Nazis.
Dont ask me what that means exactly cause i have no idea. [attachmentid=29275]
MVxK
QUOTE(REBEL @ Nov 7 2006, 10:10 AM) [snapback]1417856[/snapback]

T.H.E.Y = The Hierachy Enslaving You. grin2.gif
I've got a question. If the hollow earth theory is total and complete bulls***, then why was Hitler and the Nazi hierachy obsessed to say the least, with finding the entrance to this so called hollow earth if it did'nt exist, which has been claimed to be around the North Pole region.


Oh yeah, because Hitler and the Nazis repersented the epicentre of common sense didn't they?

rolleyes.gif
REBEL
QUOTE(MVxK @ Nov 7 2006, 11:06 PM) [snapback]1417975[/snapback]

Oh yeah, because Hitler and the Nazis repersented the epicentre of common sense didn't they?

rolleyes.gif

No actualy they were phycotic loonies who were into the arts of black magic and all that sh**,...now were have i herd that before, what is it sk...sku...skull...skull & bones thats it.
SOUL-DRIFTER
Hmm the Predator asked a most simple question. Do stargates exist?
And most people here say no.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but he did say this flatly, without saying " on Earth".

So.. Do stargates exist...logic says most probably, somewhere in this vast universe or in one of the 10 to the 500th power other universes.
With these vast possibilities, it is most probable that almost everything imagineable exists somewhere.

Note, it has been said by more than one astronomer that there may be more stars in our total universe than grains of sand in the ocean.
A leading physicist recently announced that there are accepted theories now that indicate that there may be that many many more universes as there are stars in our universe(10 to the 500th power). That is a number with over 900 zeros.

Now people, Do STARGATES EXIST?
At the very least, it would be impossible to prove that they do not....AGREED?
itsnotoutthere
QUOTE(dimensional @ Jul 22 2006, 09:01 AM) [snapback]1279216[/snapback]

Have found located a major egyptian star gate during my studies based on the original time and the egyptian judgement scene, I call this Middle - time, though to understand this you need to know the factors based on the beginning and the end, once these two are balanced and aligned you open the portal into middle - time.


My fruitloop alarm is going .''WHAA, WHAA, WHAA, WHAA.....
REBEL
QUOTE(itsnotoutthere @ Nov 8 2006, 12:30 AM) [snapback]1418021[/snapback]

My fruitloop alarm is going .''WHAA, WHAA, WHAA, WHAA.....

it's good to see you back man. thumbsup.gif
itsnotoutthere
QUOTE(MVxK @ Nov 1 2006, 10:22 AM) [snapback]1412586[/snapback]

Yup. The sort of people who would write it on a wall in human faeces before running into a highschool with a shotgun.

Thats the only sort of person who'd have deranged thoughts like that.


lol w00t.gif

how true

QUOTE(REBEL @ Nov 7 2006, 03:08 PM) [snapback]1418030[/snapback]

it's good to see you back man. thumbsup.gif


hi thumbsup.gif
REBEL
QUOTE(itsnotoutthere @ Nov 8 2006, 12:39 AM) [snapback]1418031[/snapback]

lol w00t.gif

how true
hi thumbsup.gif

You know its mighty strange possibly a conspiracy but isnotoutthere is not seen for a few days and just at that time UM goes on the friz hmmmm disgust.gif tongue.gif
itsnotoutthere
QUOTE(REBEL @ Nov 7 2006, 03:12 PM) [snapback]1418036[/snapback]

You know its mighty strange possibly a conspiracy but isnotoutthere is not seen for a few days and just at that time UM goes on the friz hmmmm disgust.gif tongue.gif


Nothing so elaborate......p.c. keeps crashing....bummer hmm.gif
contactismade
"I can't stand these flippant cod-science remarks. Do you know how little in the universe is actually proven? To "prove" that wormholes would exist would take an extraordinary amount of power and energy (and are completely dependant on the existance of such things as exotic matter, again not proven to exist), and then just to leap from that to "stargates" proves only that you have very little scientific knowledge outside of the SciFi channel.

And what on earth do you mean OP, "i'm sure i heard that they were real" - where on earth did you here that?? Did the government find one down the back of their sofa that they'd lost and forgotten about??? "

UHHHHHH? Yeah? Maybe you better rethink this here. When there was talk in the science community about building rockets to take us into space, a lot of the top scientific minds said it was "impossible" that enough "power" could be generated to lift anything as large as the module proposed for the journey. Completely unattainable is a phrase they used. What happened after these profoun statements is a matter of record. So don't paint yourself into a corner here, the solution to the wormhole theory is closer than you think.


AtlantisRises
QUOTE(REBEL @ Nov 7 2006, 07:40 PM) [snapback]1417856[/snapback]


I've got a question. If the hollow earth theory is total and complete bulls***, then why was Hitler and the Nazi hierachy obsessed to say the least, with finding the entrance to this so called hollow earth if it did'nt exist, which has been claimed to be around the North Pole region.



For exactly the same reason that when I was 5 made me try to trap the Easter bunny because I wanted to get free chocolate all year round.

Ignorance. And possibly a side of stupidity.

And at least I had the excuse that I was 5 years old.
darkbreed
The real ancient stargates seem to be built upon so called sacred sites - sacred because these spesific spots radiate some form of currently unknown energy. Some call it lay lines, some call it earth vortexes, they go by many names. One person mentioned the Peruvian stargate, and yes this place seem to be an actual working stargate as I have a friend who have been there personally and experienced strange things as well as working on such projects with the governments. He used to work for NSA so I have a pretty good knowledge about what they are up to - they are very interseted in ancient artifacts etc. There are also many other similar portals like this Peruvian Stargate around the world, and by some reason there seem to be a high amount of them around in South America.

In addition me and another friend accidently went "through" one of these vortexes at a strange mountain once. What happened was that we suddenly got very disoriented and ended up on completely opposite side of this mountain than where we had come from - and several hours had passed we coudnt account for. We were doing some research as we think this mountain may actually be some kind of pyramid / manmade structure do to how its formed by a bunch of bricks - in other words its not a solid mountain but just a massive pile of rocks, very strange. There are places on it that looks like walls as well as collapsed stairways and possibly entries.

Anyway back to the real stargates, the Stargate series, and NSA. The Stargate series is obviously (to me) based on reality as I know these gates themselves exists as well as many other events of this spesific show. Also, this show seem to be made by freemasons for a purpose, maybe to prepare people on something they know will happen, or they will expose to the world themselves. Possibly its also a way to tell other freemasons something. And why do I think its got anything to do with freemasons? Well basically because the show is loaded with masonic and occult symbolism and references. The Stargate logo itself is actually the logo for Freemasonry, The Compass and the Square.
Here is one of the logos in the Stargate show:
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Notice how the "G" of SGC is located in the middle of the picture, just above the Compass

Here is an official Freemason logo taken from a masonic lodge's homepage:
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Notice how they use a G in the middle. Only difference from the above Stargate logo is that the Freemasonic logo has the G within the pyramid shape of the Compass.

And we have secret orders in the show (just like freemasonry is), higher ascended masters (which is the same Freemasons follow, their higher leaders - astral maters etc) and a bunch of other things related to freemasonry, the occult and secret orders. Such as even Tealc and his very gentleman like behavior and his work with meditation and the fact he is part of an Order. Also, these worms who control them from within may be a reference to spiritual posession - as these people believe spirits can take over a persons body and control him, and many believe this is what happend to Crowley among others, as well as the Pharaos of Egypt. Theres lots more too that I cant think of at the moment. But remember that our governments who actually run the world is highly involved with the occult and similar secret orders themselves - and they know their stuff when it comes to this. Its reasons like this Hitler was traveling around the world in search for the occult and ancient artifacts - he believed the Aryan race were descendents of Atlanteans. Their occult agenda was more open at that time it seems, but the governments today are obsessed by the vary same things, the only difference is that today its more hidden and less known in the public. And they want to keep the occult powers and knowledge to themselves, and deceive the people by creating the common belief that such things are just that - beliefs. Thats why we dont learn about such things in school, thats why the church is strongly against occult practises. Kinda funny, considering Priests are one of the main groups of practioners of freemasonry.

Here are two HUGE symbols in the desert of Area 51 area:
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These two symbols are also highly occult and masonic. The top one is called a Hexagram, often refered to as a Star of David

Anyway these were just some thoughts pouring out of my head about this topic from my own experience with these matters. I know this got kinda messy but I dont have time to piece it together and write a decent article at this moment. Maybe I will try go in to more details later
arkland
QUOTE(louie @ Jul 22 2006, 06:40 AM) [snapback]1279321[/snapback]

geek.gif jeez leave the kid alone.. he only asked a question...
but seriously can anyone here actually prove a stargate does not exist.............

YA BUT SERIOSLY CAN ANYONE PROVE TAHT I AM NOT GOD INCARNATE. didnt think so
louie
Dont you think your taking this all a bit to seriousley, i mean its a second rate tv show and thats athe reality.
REBEL
QUOTE(AtlantisRises @ Nov 8 2006, 07:40 AM) [snapback]1418625[/snapback]

For exactly the same reason that when I was 5 made me try to trap the Easter bunny because I wanted to get free chocolate all year round.


So sorry to hear that A R, look you can still get em you know , the only differance is you gotta pay for em,...thats all. hmm.gif
rev r
How come these figures appear to be drawn over the google watermarks on the photos?
darkbreed
rev_r: Well they are not. You can find them directly at google maps: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.628036,+-...&iwloc=addr

and: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.628036,+-...p;t=k&hl=en

btw the hexagram represents the uniting of Earth and Heaven, the Physical and the Spiritual, Man and God. Intersting thing of the governments to put in the middle of the deserts of area 51
darkbreed
another important thing i've discovered that relates to all of this:

Did Aleister Crowley make a prophecy about september 11 ? And is the dollar bills merely magickal talismans used in a sinister occult agenda? And do the dollar bills themselves contain a prophecy about the 911 incident? According to this website http://www.911prophecy.com/ it may certainly seem this way.. Check through the chapters 1 to 11 after watching the video on top. It is very interesting stuff.. here is a quote from one of the pages there showing how the dollar bills has the attack of WTC displayed on them. (Liber Al is The Book of the Law by Aleister Crowley, where this prophecy "Paste the sheets from right to left and from top to bottom: then behold!" is from. According to Crowley, a spirit channeled the book through him. Another line above it also seem it might be related to 911 as it goes: "Hail! ye twin warriors about the pillars of the world! for your time is nigh at hand.")

Well check out the 11 chapters of the site http://www.911prophecy.com/ and see for yourself what you think.

QUOTE

WTC ORIGAMI

"Paste the sheets from right to left and from top to bottom: then behold!" -Liber Al 3:71

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‘Sheets' in the verse above refers to sheets of currency or sheets of metal. Money is not printed on specific fabric-type sheets. If one looks closely at the bill, there are blue and red security threads blended into the fabric for security and fraud-prevention purposes. Fabric does not wear as quickly as pulp paper, and does not disintegrate when wet. You can test the durability of money compared to paper's durability by placing a folded piece of paper currency in one of your pant pockets and a folded piece of paper in the other pocket. Throw the jeans in the wash for one cycle using water for best results. When the cycle is finished, empty your pockets and see the outcome.

Meaningful definitions for sheets from the quote “Paste the sheets”, are, “a broad usually thin flat piece of material, e.g. Paper or metal” or sheet as a piece of paper currency.

The two definitions can be interpreted in meaningful ways. The sheet could be a “banking sheet”, which is paper currency or if we think of the sheet as a flat sheet of metal, then it relates to the Trade Towers as they are constructed of many sheets of metal. The Twin Towers could also be viewed at as two enormous sheets of metal penetrating into the sky, or in other words, enormous metal towers.

The slang definition of Paste is “beat or trash” or “bomb or bombard heavily.” A deadly mix when combined with the definition of the trade towers as sheets of metal structures towering above the earth. “Paste the sheets from right to left and from top to bottom” is a allegory for what occurred on September 11th 2001 at the World Trade Center. On the morning of September 11th 2001, if one were looking through the Washington Arch in New York, one would have seen one trade tower on the right and one on the left. As the planes pasted or bombed the trade towers, they hit from the right and then from the left. When the towers fell they fell from top to bottom.

The definition for paste as a verb is to “fasten or coat with paste.” Another definition for paste is “an adhesive of flour, water, etc., especially for sticking paper and other light materials”. ‘Fasten' and ‘for sticking paper' can be combined with the definition of sheet as a banking sheet in order to produce simple instructions for folding bank sheets.

If we look at the passage “paste the sheets” and understand that it means to fasten banking sheets together, then ‘paste' means to put together. When we paste one item onto another, we cover up the item we are pasting over. The pasting over could be viewed as folding on top of and making the two items one. Look at what happens when two five dollar bills are folded ‘from right to left, and from top to bottom" and held together. The bills can be folded in a few ways, but below is the only way that produces a pattern with all of the bills from the $5 bill to the $100 bill. When there is a pattern, there are connections. The coincidences that were separate become one reality.

2 Five Dollar Bills, Folded from “right to left and then top to bottom”

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A pair of five dollar bills folded “Right to Left and then Top to Bottom” and a picture of the trade towers through the Washington Arch. See the similarities?

When the folding process is repeated with two different $5 bills as to reproduce the pictures above, an image is obtained that closely resembles the World Trade Towers through the NY Arch.

Although not complete, most of the images can also be conveniently produced by folding a single bill into a pentagon. The bill should be folded in half length wise, and then folded into a pentagon by folding center the folded bill and joining the far ends together. One does have to apply a microscopic amount of imagination to the image seen on the folded 5 dollar bills in order to see the Trade Towers through the NY Arch, yet it can not be denied that the image on the folded five dollar bill and picture of the World Trade Towers between the NY Arch are very similar.

Take a look at what happens when the ten dollar bill is folded the same way using the instructions in the prophecy or by folding it into a pentagon.

Ten dollar bills folded from right to left and top to bottom

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Two ten dollar bills folded from right to left, and then top to bottom.

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Exploding Twin Towers

See the debris shooting down?


The ten dollar bill shows the Trade Towers exploding as they did on the day of the attack. When the second plane hit, the explosion blew out through the sky creating a black cloud of doom raining debris as represented by the image on the folded ten dollar bills.

Sometimes there is more than meets the Eye. Can it be a coincidence if the rest of the bills also produce meaningful images that produce a sequential pattern? Take a look and see what happens with the twenty dollar bill.


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The towers on the twenty dollar bill are burning on two different levels just as the Trade towers were on September 11th 2001!

Look at the pictures of the World trade towers smoking from each tower, one smoking at a slightly lower level than the other. The folded twenty dollar bill is an eerie image of the smoking towers.

Now we can complete the sequence and do the same folding
procedure with the fifty and then the hundred dollar bills,
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Unlike the previous pictures the folded fifty dollar bill shows a close up image. The folded fifty dollar bills look like a close up of one of the trade towers crumbling and falling to ground zero.

Now for the hundred!

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On the folded hundred dollar bill we see what could be smoke rising from ground zero,
again though the NY arch.

When we position the bills in chronological order from five to one hundred dollars, like a child's picture book or a slide show, a sequential pattern showing the destruction of the World Trade Towers is formed. The five dollar bill showed the world trade towers standing through a NY arch. The ten dollar bill showed the discharge of the destructive blast that the second airplane caused when it struck the second Trade Tower. The twenty dollar bill shows both World Trade Towers burning, with precise detail, showing the left Tower burning at a lower level than the right. On the fifty dollar bill, the towers are crumbling from the disaster, while the hundred dollar bill showed the end result of nothing but smoke rising from ground zero.



An important thing to notice is Crowleys involvement with the governments, and several government people were also part of his satanic occult order OTO. One of these people were Jack Parsons, a high profiled NASA rocket scientists, one of the people responsible for getting man to the moon. He was one of the founders of NASAs JPL: http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/

And involved are also freemasons, and they actually brought a masonic apron to the moon, which were used in a masonic ritual on the moon, and this apron was later delivered back to the grandmaster of a lodge in usa where its now hanging on the wall.

If they actually landed on the moon or not can be speculated, but they did for sure go to space, and bring this apron there. I have been speculating that the reason they have faked some of their moon footage might actually be because of this reason itself, that they were doing masonic rituals up there that they obviously didnt want people to see, so they haded faked the footage in advance so they could be busy spending the little time they had to carrying out these rituals. Neil Armstrong was a Freemason btw and so was many other astronauts. Such as Buzz Aldrin. I think the Columbia Shuttle "accident" was nother of their rituals btw that I am mentioning below in my next post
darkbreed
Its important to understand that the dollar bill is basically a magickal talisman, which is created for a spesific purpose. It is loaded with occult symbology. Notice that the Hexagram is featured on the dollar bill as well, two times, the same symbol that I showed you exists in the nevada desert above. One of the hexagrams is found above the eagles head, consisting of 13 small stars put together in the shape of a hexagram:
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One of these hexagrams is invisible, but if you draw it up from the letters surronding it which spells MASON you will see it. Draw a line from these mentioned letters surronding the pyramid with the eye, The Allseeing Eye.

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And as they are occultists they are also deeply into numerology, so they made sure to add numerical references as well:

* 13 leaves in the olive branch

* 13 bars and stripes in the shield

* 13 arrows in the right claw

* 13 letters in the "E Pluribus Unum" on the ribbon

* 13 stars in the green crest above

* 32 long feathers on its right wing representing the 32º in Freemasonry

* 13 granite stones in the Pyramid. (The 13 layers represent the 13 Illuminati bloodlines)

* 13 letters in Annuit Coeptis

And the number of colonies in USA were 13 when the Declaration of Independence was signed. And this happened in the Year 1776, which is also important, as this is the same year they founded the Illuminati. This was all on purpose, for these people its all a Great Ritual of Magick. And this number 13 that they use relates to the 12 sephira (or spheres) of the Tree of Life which symbolizes all levels of existence where the lowest one is this physical earth and existence, while the highest one is God himself. 13 would be the number above God, which is what they are trying to achieve: To become greater than God himself. Btw this also goes for the 33rd degree of Freemasonry, as there are 32 levels - the 22 paths and the 10 normal sephira they go through. So here too 33 represents the level above God.

And back to the 9/11 prophecy on the dollar bills mentioned above: my conclusion, based on what I know about the governments and their involvment and practise of the occult and magick, is that the 9/11 incident was nothing more than a ritualistic sacrifice. They still practice such rituals today as they have always done dating thousands of years back. The only difference is they cover it up as "terrorism" and "war" these days but its basically the same thing they did thousand years ago in the public. And its very religiously done. The very dates they perform such things of are of great numerological importance and meaning. Thats why we also had the 3/11 bombings in Madrid, Spain btw. The London bombings happend 7/7 - a very important date. And to any students of the occult and numerology you will know that 3, 7, 9 and 11 are some of the most important numbers of magick.
Strange F8
QUOTE(itsnotoutthere @ Nov 7 2006, 07:09 AM) [snapback]1418031[/snapback]

lol w00t.gif

Yup. The sort of people who would write it on a wall in human faeces before running into a highschool with a shotgun.

Thats the only sort of person who'd have deranged thoughts like that.

how true
hi thumbsup.gif


Please explain the scientific basis for that. If it is indeed true, all sci fi writers should be jailed immediately to avoid further school shootings.
AtlantisRises
QUOTE(rev r @ Nov 9 2006, 02:17 AM) [snapback]1419170[/snapback]

How come these figures appear to be drawn over the google watermarks on the photos?



Because they are obvious fakes.
Pax Unum
QUOTE(darkbreed @ Nov 8 2006, 12:01 PM) [snapback]1419247[/snapback]

Its important to understand that the dollar bill is basically a magickal talisman, which is created for a spesific purpose. It is loaded with occult symbology. Notice that the Hexagram is featured on the dollar bill as well, two times, the same symbol that I showed you exists in the nevada desert above. One of the hexagrams is found above the eagles head, consisting of 13 small stars put together in the shape of a hexagram:
IPB Image\

One of these hexagrams is invisible, but if you draw it up from the letters surronding it which spells MASON you will see it. Draw a line from these mentioned letters surronding the pyramid with the eye, The Allseeing Eye.

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<img src='http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils in Government/Federal Reserve Scam/hexseal.jpg' border='0' alt='IPB Image'>

And as they are occultists they are also deeply into numerology, so they made sure to add numerical references as well:

* 13 leaves in the olive branch

* 13 bars and stripes in the shield

* 13 arrows in the right claw

* 13 letters in the "E Pluribus Unum" on the ribbon

* 13 stars in the green crest above

* 32 long feathers on its right wing representing the 32º in Freemasonry

* 13 granite stones in the Pyramid. (The 13 layers represent the 13 Illuminati bloodlines)

* 13 letters in Annuit Coeptis

And the number of colonies in USA were 13 when the Declaration of Independence was signed. And this happened in the Year 1776, which is also important, as this is the same year they founded the Illuminati. This was all on purpose, for these people its all a Great Ritual of Magick. And this number 13 that they use relates to the 12 sephira (or spheres) of the Tree of Life which symbolizes all levels of existence where the lowest one is this physical earth and existence, while the highest one is God himself. 13 would be the number above God, which is what they are trying to achieve: To become greater than God himself. Btw this also goes for the 33rd degree of Freemasonry, as there are 32 levels - the 22 paths and the 10 normal sephira they go through. So here too 33 represents the level above God.

And back to the 9/11 prophecy on the dollar bills mentioned above: my conclusion, based on what I know about the governments and their involvment and practise of the occult and magick, is that the 9/11 incident was nothing more than a ritualistic sacrifice. They still practice such rituals today as they have always done dating thousands of years back. The only difference is they cover it up as "terrorism" and "war" these days but its basically the same thing they did thousand years ago in the public. And its very religiously done. The very dates they perform such things of are of great numerological importance and meaning. Thats why we also had the 3/11 bombings in Madrid, Spain btw. The London bombings happend 7/7 - a very important date. And to any students of the occult and numerology you will know that 3, 7, 9 and 11 are some of the most important numbers of magick.

what does all this have to do with stargates being real or not? just wondering
darkbreed
that the government are aware of them and that is why they are interested in ancient artifacts like them, and they use them for related occult purposes. And this is what these stargates are used for in the first place: occult matters and magick, connecting to the other realms etc. And this all relates back to the Stargate tv show which again is based on the real stargates of ancient times.
Pax Unum
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that the government are aware of them and that is why they are interested in ancient artifacts like them, and they use them for related occult purposes. And this is what these stargates are used for in the first place: occult matters and magick, connecting to the other realms etc. And this all relates back to the Stargate tv show which again is based on the real stargates of ancient times.

you're not serious are you? that's the most ridiculous thing I've heard lately... grin2.gif
AtlantisRises
I dunno Pax.

I don't think its quite as ridiculous as MADs posts. Close though
Silentom
Very interesting stuff to say the least! alien.gif
REBEL
Science Fiction-(as the years roll on and on)-Science Fact. wink2.gif



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darkbreed
Pax: It sounds wild, but reality is wild. Of course its hard to believe such if you havnt actually been involved with it yourself or done the necessary research. Im not sure what part of it you dont believe though.. That the governments are involved with the occult? Or that the stargates were used for occult purposes (religious/spiritual) ? Or that the Stargate tv show is based on these ancient gates and portals (even if its legends of them)? or that the Stargate tv show is full of hidden occult and masonic symbolism and references?

The answer to most of these questions are easily verified to be true. And I have allready supplied some references and evidence to this in my posts allready, but feel free to look it up further and do some research yourself, its the best way to find what is true and not.

Cheers
REBEL
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Pax Unum
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I dunno Pax.

I don't think its quite as ridiculous as MADs posts. Close though

LOL, yeah... but I did say LATELY grin2.gif
darkbreed
AtlantisRises: No they are not fake. I allready posted the direct links to google map where you can go see them yourself.
zukie&jim
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The real ancient stargates seem to be built upon so called sacred sites - sacred because these spesific spots radiate some form of currently unknown energy. Some call it lay lines, some call it earth vortexes, they go by many names. One person mentioned the Peruvian stargate, and yes this place seem to be an actual working stargate as I have a friend who have been there personally and experienced strange things as well as working on such projects with the governments. He used to work for NSA so I have a pretty good knowledge about what they are up to - they are very interseted in ancient artifacts etc. There are also many other similar portals like this Peruvian Stargate around the world, and by some reason there seem to be a high amount of them around in South America.

In addition me and another friend accidently went "through" one of these vortexes at a strange mountain once. What happened was that we suddenly got very disoriented and ended up on completely opposite side of this mountain than where we had come from - and several hours had passed we coudnt account for. We were doing some research as we think this mountain may actually be some kind of pyramid / manmade structure do to how its formed by a bunch of bricks - in other words its not a solid mountain but just a massive pile of rocks, very strange. There are places on it that looks like walls as well as collapsed stairways and possibly entries.

Anyway back to the real stargates, the Stargate series, and NSA. The Stargate series is obviously (to me) based on reality as I know these gates themselves exists as well as many other events of this spesific show. Also, this show seem to be made by freemasons for a purpose, maybe to prepare people on something they know will happen, or they will expose to the world themselves. Possibly its also a way to tell other freemasons something. And why do I think its got anything to do with freemasons? Well basically because the show is loaded with masonic and occult symbolism and references. The Stargate logo itself is actually the logo for Freemasonry, The Compass and the Square.
Here is one of the logos in the Stargate show:
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Notice how the "G" of SGC is located in the middle of the picture, just above the Compass

Here is an official Freemason logo taken from a masonic lodge's homepage:
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Notice how they use a G in the middle. Only difference from the above Stargate logo is that the Freemasonic logo has the G within the pyramid shape of the Compass.

And we have secret orders in the show (just like freemasonry is), higher ascended masters (which is the same Freemasons follow, their higher leaders - astral maters etc) and a bunch of other things related to freemasonry, the occult and secret orders. Such as even Tealc and his very gentleman like behavior and his work with meditation and the fact he is part of an Order. Also, these worms who control them from within may be a reference to spiritual posession - as these people believe spirits can take over a persons body and control him, and many believe this is what happend to Crowley among others, as well as the Pharaos of Egypt. Theres lots more too that I cant think of at the moment. But remember that our governments who actually run the world is highly involved with the occult and similar secret orders themselves - and they know their stuff when it comes to this. Its reasons like this Hitler was traveling around the world in search for the occult and ancient artifacts - he believed the Aryan race were descendents of Atlanteans. Their occult agenda was more open at that time it seems, but the governments today are obsessed by the vary same things, the only difference is that today its more hidden and less known in the public. And they want to keep the occult powers and knowledge to themselves, and deceive the people by creating the common belief that such things are just that - beliefs. Thats why we dont learn about such things in school, thats why the church is strongly against occult practises. Kinda funny, considering Priests are one of the main groups of practioners of freemasonry.

Here are two HUGE symbols in the desert of Area 51 area:
<img src='http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/b/f/bfs124/area 51 Pictures/images/hexagram-what is it_JPG.jpg' border='0' alt='IPB Image'>
<img src='http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/b/f/bfs124/area 51 Pictures/images/Triangle-Real or fake_JPG.jpg' border='0' alt='IPB Image'>

These two symbols are also highly occult and masonic. The top one is called a Hexagram, often refered to as a Star of David

Anyway these were just some thoughts pouring out of my head about this topic from my own experience with these matters. I know this got kinda messy but I dont have time to piece it together and write a decent article at this moment. Maybe I will try go in to more details later



no there not fake. there common mapping tools used for training . the top photo is a highlighted SAM missile site.

the bottom is a highlighted ballistic target for a KREV .
darkbreed
Probably, but what is still intersting is the occult symbology they represent by their unmistaken shapes. Could be they just dont likes jews though considering they are bombing a huge Star of David lol
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