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promKing
I know there has been topics about Apollo 11 astronauts reporting aliens on Moon and I wanted to add this post on that but it is difficult to operate on that 'search' engine...

Anyway they created documentary about that with astronauts like Buzz Aldrin speaking how they saw aliens and how they had to keep their mouths shut. They will show that documentary very soon.link

Could anyone tape that documentary and upload it on internet? original.gif
Trinitrotoluene
This documentary is on at the following time tonight, but doesn't mention anything about UFO's in description.

The Real Story of Apollo 11: Stranger than Fiction
9:00pm - 10:00pm
Five
VIDEO Plus+: 3690540
Subtitles

Documentary. When Neil Armstrong first set foot on the moon in July 1969, Apollo 11 was hailed as the supreme triumph of American technology. Now, nearly 40 years later, an exclusive interview with world-renowned astronaut, Buzz Aldrin, and previously unpublished NASA documents reveal how primitive computer technology, human error and mechanical failure almost resulted in an unprecedented disaster.


None the less I will be watching it.
AstroPro
I am assuming this documentary is only being broadcast in the UK? I don't see any listings for it in my area, unfortunatly.
promKing
Gavsto, but in that article they state it is about UFOs:

"THE first men to walk on the Moon reported seeing a UFO, a new TV documentary reveals.

Astronaut Buzz Aldrin, the second man to walk on the Moon's surface after Neil Armstrong, says space agency bosses covered up their sighting."
The Skeptic Eric Raven
We need to see when this will play in the US. Or I would be willing to pay for a copy of this if Buzz is mentioning seeing UFO's.
Trinitrotoluene
I'm going to watch it tonight, it's on in 30 minutes - I'll report back when It's finished!
Trinitrotoluene
It looks like it's concentrating on basically how many problems plagued to the moon and the problems involved. Some of the stuff is blown out of proportion though. Interesting part so far was Aldrin saying they saw a UFO outside, subsequently NASA didn't make this public for the reason that they felt they'd be ridiculed, which I can understand. Most of it's exagerrated, some of it is interesting!
rapid7

Wow! This is a turn up for the books!
Buzz Aldrin states in a face to face interview, that during the Apollo 11 mission on the way to the moon, at one time, they were shadowed by a UFO.
The UFO was described as elliptical yet L-shaped object.
maybe like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0atxvZjyeA

He even claims Mike Collins looked at the object through the module's onboard telescope.

They sent a message to “Houston, where is the S-IVB?” or words to this effect.
The S-IVB is third part of the Saturn 5.
NASA informed the crew that the S-IVB was 6000 nautical miles away, so they knew the UFO wasn't this.

The crew decided not to inform NASA because they were actually worried the mission might be aborted or that the mission directives would change.
Buzz Aldrin said “we didn’t want the mission aborted because of aliens or something”

Once back on Earth Buzz Aldrin, Neil Armstrong and Mike Collins agreed with NASA not to discuss the UFO sighting in public for fear of international ridicule.

Here’s the Apollo 11 return press conference.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RcKLAo62Ro

Check out 126 seconds into the video. Look at Mike Collin’s face; it’s almost like “Don’t mention the UFO, Neil”

Of course, seeing a UFO these days is always considered inconclusive but it certainly made an impression on the crew. wink2.gif

Source; documentary- The real story of Apollo 11 stranger than fiction’.

I might add that this was a small part of the documentary, the rest was about mechanical problems they encountered, which was also fascinating; such as the fact Buzz Aldrin used a ball point pen to fix a circuit breaker for the starter engine of the LM.
Without this pen, Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong would’ve been stranded on the moon. To this day he carries this pen with him as a personal reminder to how ‘the most insignificant object, can make the biggest difference.’

Trinitrotoluene
This is what annoyed me about this documentary, that without the pen they'd be pretty much dead. All he did was push in a circuit breaker, he could have used anything none metallic. Quite a few things were exagerrated in it for dramatic appeal, but it was interesting none the less. The Aldrin/UFO thing was extremely interesting.
Lilly
QUOTE(Prophecy Guru @ Jul 24 2006, 04:56 PM) [snapback]1281548[/snapback]

I am assuming this documentary is only being broadcast in the UK? I don't see any listings for it in my area, unfortunatly.


Nothing in my area (N E United States) either...RATS! user posted image
rapid7

QUOTE(Gavsto @ Jul 24 2006, 10:03 PM) [snapback]1281960[/snapback]

This is what annoyed me about this documentary, that without the pen they'd be pretty much dead. All he did was push in a circuit breaker, he could have used anything none metallic. Quite a few things were exagerrated in it for dramatic appeal, but it was interesting none the less. The Aldrin/UFO thing was extremely interesting.


I’d say the dramatic effect was fully justified.
Such as Buzz and Neil knowing all the time they were on the moon, they only had a 50/50 chance that the LM’s main thruster would start.
This is one of the first documentaries I’ve seen which really showed the 'touch and go' nature of the whole Apollo missions. So many times the odds were stacked against them.
You really felt like technology was pushed to its limits; you got the impression the LM was nothing more than a tin bucket, a calculator and a rocket engine. When an unexpected situation arose, the majority of mathematic calculations were made in real time from people using nothing more than a pen, paper and a stopwatch.
Dramatic stuff indeed. yes.gif



rapid7

I've found a transcipt. Thanks to Dave stone thumbsup.gif from another documentry called

"First on the Moon: The Untold Story" But it mentions the same UFO sighting.

source http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/update...p/m28-027.shtml

Dave Stone;

To the best of my knowledge, this is the first time that Buzz
Aldrin, an Apollo 11 astronaut, had ever publicly recounted any
UFO experience associated with the Apollo 11 moon mission. Also
of interest, I wonder how the UFO footage that was supposedly
taken from a later Apollo mission obtained?

Below is my transcription of the 3.5 minute UFO segment:



START:

Narrator: But three days and 200,000 miles into the flight,
Mission Control did miss the significance of a cryptic message
from Apollo 11.

Apollo 11: 'Do you have any idea where the S-IVB is with respect
to us?

Mission Control: 'Stand-by'

Narrator: The Crew required information on the current position
of the S-IVB, the final stage of the rocket which had been
jettisoned away 2 days earlier. This short message hid an
extraordinary turn of events: Apollo 11 wasn't alone in space.

Buzz Aldrin: There was something out there that, uh, was close
enough to be observed and what could it be?

Narrator: Traveling along side of Apollo 11 was a mysterious
object like this one (a ringed object at close range is shown),
filmed on a later mission. If it wasn't part of their own
rocket, it could only be one thing, a UFO.

Aldrin: Mike (Collins) decided he thought he could see it in the
telescope and he was able to do that and when it was in one
position, that had a series of ellipses, but when you made it
real sharp it was sort of L shaped. That didn't tell us very
much.

Dr. David Baker (Apollo 11 Senior Scientist): NASA knew very
little about, um, the object reported by the Apollo 11 crew. It
was obviously an unidentified flying object, but such objects
were not uncommon and the history of even earth orbit space
flights going back over the previous years indicated that
several crews saw objects.

Narrator: Despite having a clear view of the UFO, the crew were
wary of reporting it to Mission Control.

Aldrin: Now, obviously, the three of us were not going to blurt
out, 'Hey Houston we got something moving along side of us and
we don't know what it is, you know, can you tell us what it
is?'. We weren't about to do that, cause we know that those
transmissions would be heard by all sorts of people and who
knows what somebody would have demanded that we turn back
because of Aliens or whatever the reason is, so we didn't do
that but we did decide we'd just cautiously ask Houston where,
how far away was the S-IVB?

Narrator: Unaware of the drama unfolding in space, Mission
Control radioed the position back to Apollo 11.

Mission Control: 'Apollo 11, Houston. The S-IVB is about 6,000
nautical miles from you now, over.'

Aldrin: And a few moments later, why they came back and said
something like it was 6,000 miles away because of the maneuver,
so we really didn't think we were looking at something that far
away, so we decided that after a while of watching it, it was
time to go to sleep and not to talk about it anymore until we
came back and (went through) debriefing.

Narrator: To this day, whatever it was that the crew saw has
never been positively identified or officially acknowledged.

Dr. David Baker: There were a lot of people within the program
who went off later and became convinced that UFOs existed and
that lead to some concern on NASA's part where they got the
agreement of the crew never to publicly talk about these things
for fear of ridicule.


The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(rapid7 @ Jul 24 2006, 04:46 PM) [snapback]1281948[/snapback]

Wow! This is a turn up for the books!
Buzz Aldrin states in a face to face interview, that during the Apollo 11 mission on the way to the moon, at one time, they were shadowed by a UFO.
The UFO was described as elliptical yet L-shaped object.
maybe like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0atxvZjyeA

He even claims Mike Collins looked at the object through the module's onboard telescope.

They sent a message to “Houston, where the S-IVB?” or words to this effect.
The S-IVB is third part of the Saturn 5.
NASA informed the crew that the S-IVB was 6000 nautical miles away, so they knew the UFO wasn't this.

The crew decided not to inform NASA because they were actually worried the mission might be aborted or that the mission directives would change.
Buzz Aldrin said “we didn’t want the mission aborted because of aliens or something”

Once back on Earth Buzz Aldrin, Neil Armstrong and Mike Collins were orderednot to discuss the UFO sighting in public for fear of international ridicule.

Here’s the Apollo 11 return press conference.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RcKLAo62Ro

Check out 126 seconds into the video. Look at Mike Collin’s face; it’s almost like “Don’t mention the UFO, Neil”

Of course, seeing a UFO these days is always considered inconclusive but it certainly made an impression on the crew. wink2.gif

Source; documentary- The real story of Apollo 11 stranger than fiction’.

I might add that this was a small part of the documentary, the rest was about mechanical problems they encountered, which was also fascinating; such as the fact Buzz Aldrin used a ball point pen to fix a circuit breaker for the starter engine of the LM.
Without this pen, Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong would’ve been stranded on the moon. To this day he carries this pen with him as a personal reminder to how ‘the most insignificant object, can make the biggest difference.’

I have to say I am very interested. I would love to see Buzz saying this. See. Even skeptics can hope. If he is saying this and I am seeing it in a interview from his mouth, I might have to reconsider things.
Trinitrotoluene
Aldrin: Now, obviously, the three of us were not going to blurt
out, 'Hey Houston we got something moving along side of us and
we don't know what it is, you know, can you tell us what it
is?'. We weren't about to do that, cause we know that those
transmissions would be heard by all sorts of people and who
knows what somebody would have demanded that we turn back
because of Aliens or whatever the reason is, so we didn't do
that but we did decide we'd just cautiously ask Houston where,
how far away was the S-IVB?

I can confirm that these words did infact come from the mouth of Buzz Aldrin
FireMoon
Was a fascinating watch ... yes as pointed out , it was overly dramatic at times in delivery.. However i would say most americans would find the tone very dry..i'd beware if this is shown stateside of them adding suitably *menacing music and adopting the Michael Dorn gravitational blackhole voiceover...*

As for the UFO content it was delivered in a very *matter of fact * style almost, as if we are now reaching the point disclosure wise, where UFOs become *no big thing* in this day and age.. Yeah there are UFOs... big deal...
AstroPro
QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Jul 24 2006, 09:10 PM) [snapback]1282086[/snapback]

I have to say I am very interested. I would love to see Buzz saying this. See. Even skeptics can hope. If he is saying this and I am seeing it in a interview from his mouth, I might have to reconsider things.


What makes Buzz Aldrin any more credible than the other dozens of astronauts that have come forward with similar claims and the over 450 government witnesses involved in the disclosure project for that matter. Most of them may not be as well know as Buzz, however, each and everyone of them has their impeccable credentials to back up their claims irrefutably.
promKing
I actually dreamed this documentary last night. There was Buzz Aldrin saying that he saw UFO clearly as daylight. But after him came one of those cover-up guys and said very sarcastic that that UFO was actually some kind of russian "Apollo 11" project that was heading toward Moon also but something happened to it and it never made all the way to the Moon.
But I don't think that is the case.
rapid7

The more astute members of UM will notice this account involves two conspiracies.

1 The conspiracy of silence taken by the Apollo crew not to inform mission control.

2 The conspiracy of silence taken by NASA once they found out about the UFO.

The reasons for the conspiracies might be logical and even rational nevertheless they are conspiracies.

So, all the conspiracy theorists who thought the Apollo 11 crew had seen a UFO and that NASA had covered this up were in fact, right.

notice I said ufo not alien craft



The Skeptic Eric Raven
Did Buzz say anything about it being an alien craft or just a UFO? They should have gone in depth with him on that.
SunStar74
is there a link on this video docu. or somebody can up it ?
rapid7

QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Jul 25 2006, 03:27 PM) [snapback]1282606[/snapback]

Did Buzz say anything about it being an alien craft or just a UFO? They should have gone in depth with him on that.


Buzz Aldrin did mention aliens. In context merely as a 'figure of speech' but it does suggest they took the possibility seriously. If they didn’t, they (the crew) wouldn’t then have decided not to inform mission control about the UFO. The Crew were worried the mission would be aborted as a result.

Dr. David Baker (Apollo 11 Senior Scientist):
Also stated, that during the apollo 11 mission, the possibility of the crew encountering alien craft was discussed in a intelligent and mature manner.

Unlike the UM forums then lol laugh.gif

Pappzy
It was a good show,worth watching. thumbsup.gif
rapid7

Here’s a video clip of a similar ufo as the one sighted by the Apollo 11 crew. This is the ufo footage they used in the documentary as a reference point to Buzz Aldrin’s comments.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQajjR83vQI

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