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sixth sense
hi everyone, this is the first topic i have started on these boards.
Anyway, do you think the second coming could really come?
and if so, soon?
and would we really know about it straight away? lets say he was born on a normal estate, grew up-went to school got a job etc.....
like the song "what if god was one of us"
i ask this because i watched the omen series last week and damien goes to military school than joins the corporate world.
how do you guys think it would happen, if it could?????
thanks.
joc
The second coming? Of Christ? You won't know....until it happens. Instead of watching Hollywood scripted idiocy...I would suggest you read the gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke regarding the second coming...Jesus explains it better than anyone else can...

....but it goes something like this...Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, but before all this you will be persecuted for my sake....many shall come in my name saying I am Christ and shall deceive many, when they say He is in the desert or come with us He is over here...don't believe them...for as the lightning shining in the East is seen even in the West so shall the coming of the Son of Man be. It will be as in the days of Noah, people marrying and giving in marraige not knowing that the flood was coming until it was upon them....

...if the watchman of the house knew when the theif would come he would have watched for him...The son of man comes when you least expect it.
rice
isnt he coming when the world ends so he can gather up people that are good and bring them with him to heaven? haha when u said that hes probably disguised as a normal human...i can juss picture him selling fries and burgers at a fast food restaurant grin2.gif
exeller
A could give you guys 2 dates for when Jesus return.

2012, not because of the mayan calander, but because it should be around the time WW3 happens.

2240, according to Jews.
luminousphoenix
I think it's possible we could be in the end times. But nobody is ever going to know that. mankind tends to think we are at the end when there is war or change of century, etc. Any kind of change is scary. But the world has always been at war at many times. It's just that we are now living in a time of more wide spread media coverage. So it's hard for me to say yeah or no.

I guess it is interesting that many things come down to the year 2012, like the end of the Mayan calendar. But I've heard many say that it's just the beginning of the "golden era" where mankind will ascend to a different vibration. The era of enlightment.

Guess we'll see...
exeller
Sounds kind of wierd, but anything is possible since no human alive knows at all.
ShaunZero
It was hard for me to accept it, but I've done it. I don't think he's ever coming. If he does, I'd be glad to take all my words back.
IamsSon
1 Thessalonians 5

1Now, brothers, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, 2for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3While people are saying, "Peace and safety," destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.


This set of scriptures indicates that NO ONE knows when it wll be exactly. Additionally, please note that within years of Jesus resurrection, people were sure they were living in the last days. Almost every generation has been CONVINCED they were the last.

Zechariah 2
A Man With a Measuring Line
1 Then I looked up—and there before me was a man with a measuring line in his hand! 2 I asked, "Where are you going?"
He answered me, "To measure Jerusalem, to find out how wide and how long it is."

3 Then the angel who was speaking to me left, and another angel came to meet him 4 and said to him: "Run, tell that young man, 'Jerusalem will be a city without walls because of the great number of men and livestock in it. 5 And I myself will be a wall of fire around it,' declares the LORD, 'and I will be its glory within.'

6 "Come! Come! Flee from the land of the north," declares the LORD, "for I have scattered you to the four winds of heaven," declares the LORD.

7 "Come, O Zion! Escape, you who live in the Daughter of Babylon!" 8 For this is what the LORD Almighty says: "After he has honored me and has sent me against the nations that have plundered you—for whoever touches you touches the apple of his eye- 9 I will surely raise my hand against them so that their slaves will plunder them. [a] Then you will know that the LORD Almighty has sent me.

10 "Shout and be glad, O Daughter of Zion. For I am coming, and I will live among you," declares the LORD. 11 "Many nations will be joined with the LORD in that day and will become my people. I will live among you and you will know that the LORD Almighty has sent me to you. 12 The LORD will inherit Judah as his portion in the holy land and will again choose Jerusalem. 13 Be still before the LORD, all mankind, because he has roused himself from his holy dwelling."


This passage gives indication that prior to the Great Tribulation Jerusalem shall be a city without walls. Cities had walls as protection against attacks from neighboring countries. Therefore, if Jerusalem, the Capital has no walls it indicates Israel has no reason to fear enemy attacks. Currently, especially as Israel fights Syria and Iran's puppets Hezzbollah and Hamas, it is very difficult to picture Israel at peace with it's neighbors. When this happens, when Israel is at peace with the Arab countries, then you can begin cashing in your life insurance, sell your stocks, and begin hoarding food, cuzz it's going to be a rough 7 years!


exeller
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6 "Come! Come! Flee from the land of the north," declares the LORD, "for I have scattered you to the four winds of heaven," declares the LORD.


Continued:

"...and there followed hail and fire, mixed with blood, which fell on the earth; and a third of the earth was burnt up, and a third of the trees were burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up...and something like a great mountain, burning with fire, was thrown into the sea;And a third of the sea became blood, a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed...and a great star fell from heaven, blazing like a torch, and it fell on a third of the rivers and on the fountains of water...The name of the star is Wormwood. "A third of the waters became Wormwood, and many men died of the water, because it was made bitter....and a third of the sun was struck, and a third of the moon and a third of the stars, so that a third of their light was darkened; a third of the day was kept from shining, and likewise a third of the night."
Revelation 8:7-12

If I remember correctly, The four winds (in order) are:

1) Atomic Bomb and its affects

2) Meteor

3) Earthquake

4) A MAJOR shift in the earths crust

An the Even sadder thing is:

"The rest of mankind, who were not killed by these plaques, did not repent of the works of their hands nor give up worshiping demons and idols of gold and silver and bronze and stone and wood, which can not either see or hear or walk; nor did they repent of their murders or their sorcery's or their immorality or their thefts." Revelation 9:20-21

AtlantisRises
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hi everyone, this is the first topic i have started on these boards.
Anyway, do you think the second coming could really come?
and if so, soon?
and would we really know about it straight away? lets say he was born on a normal estate, grew up-went to school got a job etc.....
like the song "what if god was one of us"
i ask this because i watched the omen series last week and damien goes to military school than joins the corporate world.
how do you guys think it would happen, if it could?????
thanks.



Why "HE" i see no reason why Jesus (or god) should be male or female. Personally i think they would be at least Asexual or more likely as higher beings their sexuality would be uncomprehendable to us. By saying HE or SHE when speaking of god you limit your ability to comprehend or recognize what may be a completely different concept
Pappzy
You know when the the earth is about to end when you see the flanders(off the simpsons) floatting towards heaven. innocent.gif
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