Hi. I'm writing a book, and I need to know some method or another that will kill a weak demon, but only repel a stronger one. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks.

umm...well it depends on what kind of demon you want to destroy...some can get killed by salt...garlic escents repels other demons...umm...what else?...holy water? LoL...maybe light? im not sure..but we'll see what other people think..just wait for their posts

Hi and welcome

As far as I can remember from my weird "I want to be an exorcist" phase (Don't ask) You can't actually kill a Demon, at least not the typical kind (Christian or Hindu) As these are the type of Demon which usually come to mind when Demons are mentioned, I'll assume that this is the kind of Demon you are refering to.

A demon can be forced back to where it came from through an Exorcism given by a trained Catholic or Hindu Priest. I'd recomend Hostage to the Devil by Malachi Martin as a good place to start your research, but beware of getting seriously jittery.

not entirely sure, but i know in a movie i watch a lot, the main character has supernatural powers which he uses in various forms, even calling upon gods to help him. that's what i usually use, just a very strong supernatural energy, usually in the form of white or blue light. those are the typical colors anyway, i've also seen purple but that usually denotes dark light, or evil magic. also gold. ^^; yeah i write some very odd stories...

my icon is a good example of what i'm referring to.

Like one of the posts above says, demons cannot be destroyed by our means. Through the power of the holy spirit we can repel them and harm them, but when "killed" they return back to there home plane, hell. It is then believed they are entombed for 3 days ( much like Jesus ) before they have enough power to be brought back. Angels have the ability to destroy demons, and demons themselves can destroy eachother, but that is all.

However, I would not discount the possibility that a demon can be utterly destroyed with a specific ritual. I have heard of some that can "erase" a demon or angel from time completely.

I, being a skeptic, don't really believe in such things, but I would have to agree
with Roxie and Azalin. I've never heard of a demon being killed, only cast out
with rituals and prayer.
But if you're serious about wtiting a book on the subject, you might want to talk
to priests or demonologists who have knowledge and experience on this particular
phenomenon.

I myself have never met a Demon, but from the explinations given by Azalin and Roxie previously, it's sounds like The First Law of Thermodynamics to a lesser degree which states:Energy cannot be created or destroyed it only changes from one form to another. The total amount of energy and matter in the Universe remains constant, it merely changing from one form to another.

Wouldn't that make for a good read. A good writer could take that and come up with several plot twists. But, I would think it would depend upon what type of book you are writing? Fiction, non-fiction? Fantasy? Depending upon what type of book, the imagination could go wild.....

Thats a similar outlook a friend of mine has Onyxdk. With that in mind you can place certain rituals in the same ideaology as blackholes, which can suck in energy and utterly destroy it. Of course the next twist is that is how energy works in our plane of existance. In other dimensions, many scientific laws can be different.



It would indeed. Perhaps I should beat some specific author to the punch and make my millions. I don't think I have the time and book writing skills that Rowling might possess. Perhaps I should just sell her the idea

Actually, Azalin, I think you write very eloquently! There is a big audience out there for it. The best reads are those based around facts with a creative mind spinning fiction around it. I'm sure you could come up with a very intelligent, and interesting, manuscript.

Just make sure to send me a signed copy!

Can you guys read my blog called possessed and tell me what you think? It should be on the first page. Theres only 2 pgs I believe so it should be easy to see, its LONG.

Heh. Well I appreciate your confidence in my abilities. The scary part is I think I could easily piece together a decent storyline based on facts of demonology created and pioneered by our ancestors such as Saint Hilary. However, I wouldn't want to confuse people just to receive a large cheque. By the end of the book I'd have the same people that beleive Jesus and Mary had children running into the church asking for buckets of holy water and a copy of the Rituale Romanum for exorcism purposes. Hollywood has exhausted the idea quite a bit anyway

LOL... I have not heard that one yet! But, I see what you are saying.

I understand your concern, but I wouldn't worry about it to much. Most people
understand the difference between fact and fiction. But you are correct in believing
that Hollywood has exhausted the idea by more than a bit.

You would think most people would know the difference, however many people were moved by The Davinci Code.

(for exersisms)
Get a Mirror about 3 ft long and 2 ft wide have people close their eyes and hold up the mirror horizontaly over you while you are an the possest person
put a blindfold and start chanting
then move out of the way and take the blind fold off and like the demon see its reflection
then the demon should be traped inside the mirror
next through the mirror along with the demon inside out a nearby window

a way to cause pain to them is the screech of a screeching cockroach
and Holy Water and Crosses blessed by a priest, bishop, pope, etc...

to kill them i have no clue

That's from Constantine.

yea you caught me

but hey it could work right?

In Hollywood, sure.

im pretty sure fire would help repel,but anthor option ( if you belive ) is anking a witch of sorts for help

I have heard that, as well. The concept of demons is not confined to Judeo-Christian and Hindu spirituality, although they aren't regarded as agents of the devil in witchcraft (since they don't believe in the devil, contrary to what some say). I think they're considered a big ball of negative energy, right? Either way, they're not something that can be "killed," because they were never "alive," in the sense that they were ever mortal. Same goes for angels and the old belief that we become angels after we die. Different planes.

I also had never heard (although I am not disputing it) that demons banished must stay in hell for 3 days before coming back. It sounds kinda like the ghosts on Pac-Man. But it is a subject I take very, very seriously.

PM me i will tell what to do. you will not be dissapointed.

If you really know, why don't you tell us all?

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I have heard that, as well. The concept of demons is not confined to Judeo-Christian and Hindu spirituality, although they aren't regarded as agents of the devil in witchcraft (since they don't believe in the devil, contrary to what some say). I think they're considered a big ball of negative energy, right? Either way, they're not something that can be "killed," because they were never "alive," in the sense that they were ever mortal. Same goes for angels and the old belief that we become angels after we die. Different planes.

I also had never heard (although I am not disputing it) that demons banished must stay in hell for 3 days before coming back. It sounds kinda like the ghosts on Pac-Man. But it is a subject I take very, very seriously.
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yea, im really into it too, and i find it incredibly facinating lol

You can't kill demons, because that would be like "killing a ghost" and that's just impossible You can make them go away though, or protect yourself(or a house or something) from them.
Of course in some movies in Hollywood people go all over the place killing demons and stuff, but that's not how it goes in real life

I thought Constantine was a documentary! No wonder I can't get rid of demons.

But seriously, if I ever see one, I'm grabbing something heavy and going right through the SOB. If I'm hallucinating, no harm done. And if it's real, I'll be doing the country a favor by bashing the crap out of it.

Demon or hallucination? If in doubt, bash the crap out of it. - I love it

P.S. Keep a shovel handy for Bruce Campbell impersonations

Oh yes indeedy. I love my shovel! As the great Fred Perrin wrote: "Who said I was stupid to throw my shovel? The stupid is the target of my shovel."

i was reading somewhere that a demon can be killed if its in a possessed object and the object is destroyed, but also apparently its not that simple according to what i read, it can be quite difficult to destroy the object due to some kind of points system demons use and that the amount of points it has has to be at 0 or something to destroy the object an example:

a demon possesses a cd case (dunno why it would, probably wouldnt, but this is an example so anythings possible) if it has say 6 points it can use them to defend itself and the object from harm, making the object really tough, what would you do if you smashed a cd case with a sledge hammer and it didnt break, the idea is to either give up or keep trying until you do actually break the cd case , thus destroying the demon inside

not really sure how true this is or not, just trying to help