Im wondering, Dragons are one of my passions but the real question is do they even exsist?

Of course they were. I watched a program about them. And they found a dragon's dead body in a ice cave in Romania! They even have it on video for you to watch. So I obviously voted yes for the poll.

They never existed. People in ancient times saw dino bones and made a mistake. Also, there are alot of threads on dragons. You might want to do a search.

Post a link.

Gladly, ericraven2003. Here's one link at The Animal Planet site where you can buy the dvd. And on the dvd, they found a real dragon body. A baby dragon in a jar. That's all the links I could find. But I know is that they once real. Once you watching the video, it might change your mind. ^^;

I found this page in that link you posted. It suggests the different animals that inspired the belief in dragons. It even says-

A Fantasy?
Real science and real creatures, prehistoric and present-day, inspired the imagined beasts of Dragons: A Fantasy Made Real. Explore the science behind the fantasy.

It's not saying they're real.

As for the baby dragon that has been pickled in a jar. No, just no.

Sorry, dragons aren't real.

Christ Almighty. I hate our (U.S.) education system.
1) It states clearly in the article on the thing in the jar that it was probably created to hoax people in the late 1800s. Ya know in the time of the Fiji Mermaid?
2) I watched that show on AP. It was a fantasy show in the mode of "Walking With Dinosaurs". It was terrifically cool, but thinking people knew better than to believe it! And the website has a section called "Inspiration" where they explain exactly how they made everything up based on science that could have made dragons possible, but that there is no physical evidence for them. The thing in the cave was part of the act.
Jesus.
No, dragons did not, do not, or have ever existed. Ancients dreamed them up. End of story.

Dragons were real there extinct now but they were real at sometime we haven't found fossils of them because their bones were to fragile and broke a part into tiny pieces over the million years
my therory on how ancient people now about the dragon is they achualy found a skelliton but seeing that the dragon was a evil creature and a sighn of the devil the priests and monks ether ordered its destruction or secretly did the destruction them selves

no idea where i stand on this one. because like ericraven said, i too have heard about people misidentifying dino bones as dragons in the past. so im not sure if theres any real proof yet of their existance.

Fossils are formed by mineral deposits, they are not the original bones. Dragons do not exist today, and they never have in the past.



In China, dragons are considered to be extremely wise, intelligent and loving creatures; they certainly wouldn't destroy any evidence in the same way as you propose.

I was talking a bout the European Dragon

It wasn't real either. Not one shred of real evidence to support dragons.

That doesn't matter. You said there's no fossils (in Europe) because they were destroyed as people thought they were evil. Well then why are there no skeletons in China either, when they certainly didn't believe they were evil, and would have no reason to destroy the remains?

You know that was a fake right?

maby they never found dragon bones they always are seen alive and never slain in foklore or legends unlike the European dragon

Folklore does not equal reality.

that was a fake documentry for the discovery channel. they also made one with aliens from a far away planet(the aliens were more like animals than little green men) and one with animals from the future.

[attachmentid=27099]komodo dragons are real

If dragons were real, they would have come from somewhere. There would be evidence of their evolution through fossil records, and this would be before man became dominant, or even evolved for that matter. So what happened to all of the skeletons from before man appeared? Dragons didn't exist.

But it's not hurting anyone believing in them..

The dragon bones could have been mistaken for dinosaur bones?
D: Don't rag on people for believing in them, that's mean.

Disproving their arguments is 'ragging on them'?



I don't think it's possible that every single scientist in the field of paleontology is mistaken, especially in something as profound as this, a dinosaur with wings wouldn't go unnoticed.

dragon is not real, people

Well I have seen it the jar and the video about them finding a dragon...

Well They did fnd A t rexs skull that was almost completely burn't and was no where near an fire or lava... and before the exstinction....

I did a poll last year on this: My thread

14 ~ real
33 ~ myth
11 ~ undecided

The.....debate got a little heated before it was closed.


BTW I voted NOT REAL in both.

that happens a lot, in my topics

The dragon in a jar is not real. Which video are you referring to?



You do realize that fire existed before man? Anyway, this happened in the program "What if dragons were real?", right? That was fictional!

its wax

yeah its one of my passions too but i dunno if they were real i think its just one of those things that ppl have there own opinion on but theres no concrete proof - that i know of - as of yet

i agree with the not hurting any one bit i think thats a good arguement

but the things about dino bones seems hard to believe cause of all the technology

Know to sum things up, we dont know if theyre real or not. there has been places in the world we havent yet reached, for example we havent seen EVERY mountain on earth, we havent travelled to EVERY part of the ocean. Thats like looking in the dark and saying there is something there, you dont know until youve actually looked right?

I belive that they do. But thety may not look like the dragons we all now and love. Like the asian dragon. They live in the sea. Thats alot of water, they could be anywary. I think that they most likly look like snakes with fins. fire and all that sutf was add later as a storry told my most likly a fisherman, see how the asian dragon lives in water, was told over and over.

Europin dragons "mite" of lived once. They "mite" of been able to fly. We know that all life, even fish, have one species that can fly. We, as in mamemels, have bats. any way I think they war most likly all killed by kings and kinghts that was looking to make a name for them selfs.Like what some people do with shark fishing. They "mite" have been dinos that live and Evolved to look like that thow the Ice age, we know that raptor evol. into birds, Why not some of the big ones?

Why have we not found any bones you ask. Semple, dragon bones and other parts of the dragon war that to have powers. so the most likly tock thoes part.

The bottom line is that scinec cant pove that they did or did not live once. But hopfuly there find one of thows asian dragon I talk about.

Sorry my spell check is not working, Bar with me please.

P.S. Dragons ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well thats true,SG7 .

Okay...the ice age ended little over 10,000 years ago; the dinosaurs became extinct 64,000,000 years ago. The dinosaurs did not survive.




No, it's not that simple. Where are the fossil records showing the evolution of the dragon?



Kings and knights, what fairytales have you been reading?

Is there even a single credible source coming from a king or knight citing that they saw a dragon?



Are you referring to Flyingfish (Exocoetidae)? If you are, they do not fly, they glide.



Because the 'big ones' were not able to survive after the K-T Event. The smaller animals survived for a reason.

voted yes. not sure what would convince me otherwise really. lack of evidence and difficulty of of exsistence to me doesn't automatically equate to without-a-doubt-non-exsistence.

First off I was just using king and knights as a ex.

Also It is possible that some dinos lived past the K-T event. In fact the Nastenel Geographic channel had a story on some dinos found in Africa that survived for something like 50 million years after the K-T event. I seer it when I was in Jr. high so I think it was late 99 or early 2000. If I can find a link I'll post it. Maybe frogfish would know what Im talking about.

And Early humans like native amarcons used all of the parts of the best they killed. And only the bests that were lucky war fossilize, there are hole spices that have never be know because the did not fossilize. and finally the fossils may be out there we just have not found them yet. It’s a big would you know.

what the fact dragons ROCK or the stuff be for it

I tend to agree with the "no evidence to support the theory" end of this debate. We have found evidence of EVERY other great dinosaur that existed on earth.....but no evidence of dragons.....ever.....why do you think that is?.....they were just THAT clever?.....and if they were so clever as to destroy ALL evidence of their existence......what purpose would that serve? Just about every intelligent race that now resides on earth(or has ever) has left some record of their existence....something to prove that they were here(advertently or otherwise)....fossils, written-word...etc. Why would an intelligent, sentient, "magical" creature like a dragon want to wipe-out all evidence of their existence?......it makes no sense....beacuse they never existed.....unless you are taking storybooks into account.

I had no clue we've found evidence of Every other great dinosaur that exsisted... I really thought we were Still finding some. To me, legends do provide evidence. What they don't provide is proof.

Legends provide stories....which are entertaining....but the only evidence they provide is of a vivid imagination....but you are correct when you say that they do not provide proof. The point I was trying to make in relation to the dinosaur was that: Why do we find dinoasur fossils of all kinds......but no dragon fossils? Were they being hidden? destroyed? EATEN? and if so....by whom?

well if dinosaur bones were the start of the dragon legends why is there legends of creatures called Drakes hmmm!

Drakes were said to be large, flightless, wing less dragons
that sounds like a dinosaur to me, but wait i thought dinosaurs were dragons
hmm... that is strange
how could dragons be dinosaurs when their discription looks nothing like a dinosaur
and a creature that is a type of dragon but has dicriptions like a dinosaur

Here's my several years of research concerning dragons and I've travelled to many countries before and collected as much data as I can to give you these arguments.

1. The legends of the dragons came mostly from a distorted image of animal we all know today. For example in medieval day Eruope, not many people know an alligator, crocodile or maybe even a komodo dragon. When people from this time saw a crocodile (and preferably a huge one) they ran in fear, and then describe what they saw in great tremble and fear and led to some exagerrated testimony. To have their reports and their name to be credible, they might add the wing and the fiery breath. Thus as time goes the story got bigger, as well as the beasts. They name it dragons and eventually it became some sort of a image of great power, just like how pigeons nowadays portrayed as the image of peaceful life. Then, it is obvious for a newly crowned king to create a story, i.e. he slayed a dragon to get his name famed and people feared his power!

2. I'm of Asian origin and here in asia, everybody knows about dragons and since long time ago, we've mentioned boldly that dragons are MYTHICAL being descended from the heaven as the divine representatives. Thus dragons are never considered as a true living animal in Asian culture. And I guess, that since the Silk Road trading also carried some stories among traders, so grows the story of European dragons. Inspired by Chinese and other Asian folklores. And the image captured by the European trader when they past the Himalayan with many temples and dragons ornaments, that's what lead those European to the story of a dragon.

I know my English sucks hard, but they're not my mother language, so please forgive me...

it's possible
i ever find story about photograph of dragon i'll post it next time

Dinosaur fossils have always been found in Europe, the earliest dinosaur fossils were found in England, those of the Iguanadon and Megalosaurus, the fact that dragon remains have never been excavated says much for the feasibilty of their existence. Added to this fact, that dragons were supposed to be contemporaries to modern humans mean that their numbers would have to be much larger than that of dinosaurs which became extinct millions of years ago, yet we can find dino fossils but not dragon fossils. In China dinosaur bones are ground up as "dragon bones" for its supposed medicinal properties.

Drakes are just another explanation for the same thing originating in a different culture. Which is also why all conceptions of dragons look different, for example, the Chinese and the English. Dragons as you all seem to think of them could only really hve lived in the times with other dinosaurs, and predictably, went extinct with the dinosaurs if they ever did exist at all. You should define what you mean to be a dinosaur, because there were such things as flying dinosaurs, whihc to me, fits the criteria to be described as some sort of "dragon" to a primitive culture that found bones.

Yep, in Japan and in China the dinos were called 'dragons'