http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGHuDUm-DhM...ted&search= found this wile surfing youtube. http://youtube.com/watch?v=w_Nogi4E35I&search=bycatch and this to. its sickening to see how wasteful we humans are if we don't shape up soon theres going to be hell to pay

I totally agree with you on this one. I personally dont eat seafood- fish, shell fish, oysters, any form of it (sorry, but it bugs me when I tell people I dont eat see food and they ask me "what about lobster or shrimp"!! if it's from the ocean, I dont eat it!). if one chooses to eat fish, certian companies are dolphin and turtle safe. it's not perfect, but a start.

i like fish,it tastes good

I like stepping on fish, and fightning sharks. thats always great

lol,its all about punching the moose in the neck man

That's just great PETA or whatever group released this propaganda finally makes it here to these forums. We might be wasteful but when you consider how big the oceans are and how many fish exist we will never deplete them all. I will continue to eat everything that passes in front of my face no matter what propaganda is shown to me.

and thats why you will forever be blind and ignorant of the world around you. you think there is an infinite supply of fish in the ocean. well gess what there isn't. most species cant handle the fishing pressure were putting on them. if we don't do some thing about it then countless species of fish and other marine animals will go extinct forever. those of you who don't think its a problem and like to crack jokes about it are as blind and ignorant as this guy.^

as a Vegan i don't need to watch the video, i have seen it already, I wouldn't eat fish the amount of mercury is dangerous and some store post that info such as whole foods and trader joes, not to mention the oceans are fished out... also the higher up on the food chain the fish is the more toxic so imagine the ones at the top.....mercury is associated with alzheiemers and many other mental problems that afflict humans and there is no cure......


YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT...remember that....

1. There is a cure for alzheimers, its a combination of 3 natural drugs.
One is called huzerpine-A or some letter beisdes A


BTW its good your eating healthy, and yes there is tons of mercury in fish nowadays


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Yes it is wasteful. Human's are the most ignorant species on the planet. 30
years ago in a shark tournament there could be a haul of 2000 fish, but
nowadays these tournament are lucky to catch 20 sharks. Is this movie going
to stop me from eating fish? No, but this is why i always eat farm raised or self
caught fish. Japan may be the most wasteful of fish. They send boats out to catch
sharks, cut there fins off, and throw them back.

LOL I'll be sure not to pass in front of you then! But I agree with you. It's all about the survival of the fittest. People calling us "barbarians' because we eat fish are just dumb and closed minded. The funniest ones are the vegetarians that are christians, since they are sooo against eating meat, well heelloooo the Bible says that God created animals so we could eat them and use them for our survival. That's just the way it is.

I wish that were true but i have a dear freind that has it and nothing has done anything ....


lol thanks on the thumbs up on my eating, much apprecitaed...

Eating meat is a choice no matter how you rationalize it as a species we have evolved beyond needing meat....we can survive jsut fine without it and often better.....no one is mocking you for eating meat , its personal choice and the bible is a construct of man meaning its man made so i'd take its advice with a grain of salt (I would) but you should do what you see best for yourself too....As a Vegan i do not judge others for how they eat , I teach of the lifestyle beyond that i have no preference......A vegan is interested in health of themselves health of the planet that sustains them and if yu choose to eat the creatures of the planet you do so with compassion and caring......a vegans footsteps are light upon the earth...the oceans are fished out its simple enough to research.....

It's never good to generalize like this.

So I suppose refraining from being overly dramatic is out of the question?

Thank you for stating the obvious. Do you know whether or not the fish we eat has a growth rate that can compete with our consumption? I sure hope you do, otherwise your argument is very feeble.

I doubt this. We are, as a whole, more aware of nature and it's animals. Various conservations would stop the possibility of extinction if it became a danger.

Let's not speak like this. There is always a chance you are wrong, and more ignorant than you realize.

This is an intelligent and logical reason not to eat fish. Let's atleast be reasonable.

Really.
What makes you speak as if this is a fact?

Also, it is horrible what they do to these animals sometimes. When you think of this, it is a very fair reason not to eat the meat.


Basically, we all have reasons for what we do. Insulting someone for not agreeing with your beliefs, Ravinar, is ridiculous and extremely immature.

It seems as if the only reason most people don't eat meat is because of what is done to the animals. The person who eats the animal is doing no harm to it, and therefore is not at fault. Perhaps some should stop and think from a different perspective.

WRONG. Most countries that do fishing have a rule named "veta"(at least in spanish). This rule stop fishermen from fishing a certain kind of fish(it varies) some months of a year when the fish are reproducing so they can do their thing, because they know that if they fish them during that sensible time, they can kill all the population. So, when this veta time ends, they fish again. Fish reproduce so quickly and in such great numbers that if we didn't fish some of these species they would overpopulate their ecosystem and by doing this they would make a MESS out of it.
So there you go, fishing is good in every sense.
It's almost the same reason to hunt deers, quails and even in some parts wild turkeys(among other animals). Overpopulation can break ecosystems.

I like fish, so I googled info about exactly how harmful the mercury in fish can be. This is what I found: http://www.fishscam.com/ My temporary paranoia is over.

You're right, Daniella. Although I feel the need to point out that overfishing is bad in its own way- kills off the fish, etc. etc. and soforth.
But I recall other people in the post pointing that out, and you're right about 'veta', so I'll shut up.

BTW- Much respect goes to you from me- I've never met a vegan who is willing to let others have their beliefs- usually it's something like "You horrid person, you should go to hell for eating meat!!" Kudos to you.

No ocean fish for me either because of mercury, and I am not a vegan.
Lots of people eating ocean fish have become ill.
That means canned tuna folks.
More than once a week is really pushing it for adults and I doubt growing children should ever eat ocean fish anymore at all.

Seeing is believing.
When someone who aches and is tired all of the time gives up eating ocean fish and gets better, that is good enough for me.

were did you get this idea? the marine ecosystem was taking care of its self just fine long before any humans were around. the reason fish have so many offspring is because most of them don't survive to adulthood because they become food for other animals. there is a difference from the degradation of the marine ecosystem then that of land based ecosystems. on the land we see that the predators are the fist to go. this is because humans hunt them out to reduce competition for prey (much the way lions will kill cheetah cubs to reduce the competition for prey) its a survival instinct embedded in our genes. this leeds to herbivores taking over the ecosystem eating up all the plants causing it to collapse. but in marine ecosystems both predator and prey are being targeted and the degradation is happening on all levels of the food chain.

thats the kind of attitude thats going to make us an endangered species one day.

Yes they can and we will never deplete them 100%. Despite what you see in those videos we are still only fishing a tiny percentage of marine life. Most fisherman fish only off the coasts of countries along the shelf within that specified countries waters. Though there is not an infinate supply it is safe to say that we will never be able to fish all the fish in the ocean. I do not think this is a problem.

Do you know what the real problem is...

It is people like you who try to justify your words by insulting others and the most common response to opposition by people like you is "You Blind" and "Your Ignorant". The bottom line is insults do not justify what you say.

Also in North America we are only allowed to fish part of the year. this is to allow repopulation of fish into the specified fishing areas. It seriously is not a problem only those who listen to animal rights activists think so. They are propaganda masters who soley base their arguments on their own opinions.

The ocean covers over 70% of the worlds surfaceand we maybe fish in about .0001% of those waters realistically. You can over fish a specific area but if you leave it alone then the fish re-populate that fishing zone. Think of it like clear cutting and then planting new trees to replace the old ones. then you cut another area and so on eventually you come back to the original area and the trees have replenished themselves and you repeat the process.

Same goes for fishing you fish one area and move on come back and the fish have re-populated. Most countries do this to avoid over depletion and it works. Activists are basing their opinions on a false set of ethics which is quite misleading.

Seafood is disgusting.

That's a matter of opinion. It may be disgusting to you, but it's not to me. Not yet anyway...

You realize that if you step on a shrimp or crush a lobster (both bottom-feeders), the same white garbage squirts out that does when you step on a cockroach? The only difference is those first two live in water.

Well I like to eat fish. I do NOT like to eat shrimp and lobster. Lobsters look cool and I hate that people keep them in tanks waiting to be boiled alive and eaten.

I'ts a small price to pay for delicousness...

They do not feel pain anyway....

Between 11th and 15th August my city have every years the Shellfish Festival,each year more people cames from every part of the world.
And since my childhood I eat shellfish like ostras(oyster),camarão(shrimp),sapateiras(huge crab),caranguejos(crab),ameijoa(cockle),.....and many others that we will have on that festival,and I'm still alive and healthy.
Of course it only makes bad to your health if the place where you get it is polluted,but I prefer this kind of food than meat.

Even if they don't feel pain, I still think they look cool, and kinda cute too. That's why I don't want to eat them. And shrimp? I just don't like shrimp. It's creepy feeling their tails in your hand when you're about to bite off the meat... I'm never eating Lobster, and never again eating Shrimp.

same here

why not all animals feel pain i hear you can hear them sceam when they are bolied

Ok, you are right. You are right and the countries' governments(who have the veta law) and their scientists, biologists, zoologists, etc are wrong. How dumb are they.

You are so nice, thanks! But...I'm not a vegan

exactly Bella seeing is beleiving and it works for me too.....


there are no ifs and s or buts that the fish that is consumed is higly toxic a bit of reasearch will bring that into awareness, there are cards alot of people carry telling which and which not fish to eat and its very few the edible ones...i agree with Bella vegan or not a child should not be eating fish it can be devastating for the growing childs brain...the higher the fish is on the food chain the more toxic and for a kid not good......The oceans are polluted as hard as that is to fathom its a fact ....

Heck. I can't eat meat. I can't eat seafood. I might as well end it all.



I guess there is always Corona.

Its a lot better eating fish than meat,and its easier to see in a fish or shellfish when its not good to eat than in a meat.

I also said "Human's are the most ignorant species on the planet." I meant for
most of my speech to be sarcastic. I don't really feel this way.

I'm not being sarcastic the majority are ignorant and i mean the not knowing kind....and unless scared into action most do nothing but wait for someone to come save them.....just my two cents.....

Well tell that to the Japanese who almost exclusivly eat fish. They on average live longer then we do and have some of the lowest rates of cancer etc. In some pkaces people live up into there 100's on a regular basis. It would appear that people who do eat lot's of fish live longer and healthier then those who don't.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/774434.stm
This article clearly states that the Japanese are the healthiest in the world.
They eat lot's of fish in that country. I also eat lot's of fish and I'm in great shape as well and I do not know anyone who has ever gotten sick from eating fish with the exception of an allergic reaction.

I've puked from smelling the stuff, let alone eating it.

I guess it just depends on the individual consumer then. What's bad for some doesn't necessarily have to be bad for others.

Fish, crawfish, shrimg, etc is too good for me to stop eating. Sorry.

Perhaps you have allergies then...

I"m a Level Six Vegan, I don't eat anything that casts a shadow.

Wrong.

im so mad u said that species ARE extinct in the ocen because of us coarl is dieing because of us whale species are and are becioming extinct because of us the oceans are vast but it is delicate now yes this is some what propoganda but it is some what true too we do need to change some things or else we will see a day when we look in the ocean and see nouthing

No we won't. They can't all go exstinct in our lifetime. So why worry about it?

Umm... I do not, nor have I ever, eaten whale or coral. I don't even think those are FISH exactly. I do think your argument is weak.

The ignorance on both sides of this thread astounds me...Only a few here are showing intelligent thinking. First of all, people CAN get sick from eating fish. I have gotten sick from eating fish..Fish can cary different amounts of toxins in their body...The only good way is to release certain fish caught from certain areas prone to pollution. It is not recommended a pregnant mother eat more than 2 servings of fish a week.

Fish is actually good for you, if eating the right amounts. Example, salmon have fatty amino/Omea acids that are good for your heart and brain. It actually reduces the risk of heart disease.

Second commercial fishing for most types of fish won't demolish the populations. First of all, those fish we eat commercially have huge numbers. Second, there are strict international rules for commercially harvesting fish, such as creole and slot limits.

Angling also does not destroy a population at all! Countries have departments (The DNR in the US, the Ministry in Canada, etc) that control angling. There are strict seasons for keeping fish, size limits, and catch limits...Some places even have slot limits or total catch and release fisheries (such as many trout streams).

I fish and I will continue to fish for the rest of my life.

I eat fish more than I eat red meat, but having said that I am aware of the problems of overfishing and try to educate myself about what fish to choose in the shops.

Can someone give some links about how much fish is recommended because I have never heard of such limitations on a human's diet.

Japan

Last year more than 34,000 committed suicide, an increase of 7% over the previous year, making suicide the sixth most common cause of death in Japan. Among young people, the suicide rate rose an alarming 22%. The most common method is hanging, and the most common day chosen is Monday. Men prefer 5 a.m., and women prefer noon. source